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Bold Soul

11-08-2003, 02:55 PM

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In this corner, all the way from the BOOGIE DOWN, NYC...weighing in at BILLIONS OF FANS...

...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM, SLAM POETRY, SAMPLING...

...inspiring NEW TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT, a CENTRIST PERSPECTIVE for divergent points of view...

...the SURVIVOR OF MULTIPLE PLOTS FROM GOVERNMENT INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, the RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT and MAJOR MEDIA...

...the SPARK OF TOLERANCE AND PRIDE among SEVERAL DIFFERENT DISADVANTAGED PEOPLES, INTERNATIONALLY...

...the WEALTH-BUILDING COMMODITY FOR GHETTO PEOPLE...

HIP HOP!

And, in this corner...ALL THE WAY FROM...wait...no one can really agree where it was started...okay

...well, WEIGHING IN AT...wait...can you call an Italo fan a "house" fan...not truthfully...ok, then how about Disco fans...hmmm...Electronica...Lounge...I see your point...okay, nevermind...

...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including...um...well...whew...okay...

...inspiring NEW TECHNOLOGICAL...what...oh come on...I know House was built off of Hip Hop technology, but I need something to say here...shit...ummm...move on...okay...

...the SURVIVOR OF...shit...

...the SPARK OF TOLERANCE AND PRIDE AMONG...oh...I see...well, House is instrumental in REINFORCING the CHRISTIAN/SALVATIONIST ethos that contradicts the desire of minorities and gays to "be free"...I'm just sayin' tho...

...the WEALTH-BUILDING...gack...sorry...snicker...the WEALTH-BUILDING...gack...snicker...I'm sorry...I can't get this one out with a straight face...I need a minute...cut to a promo for The Sopranos while we write something...snicker...

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Bold Soul

11-08-2003, 02:57 PM

Jamie 3:26

11-08-2003, 02:59 PM

Maybe you're on to something.

BHouse

11-08-2003, 03:00 PM

Bold Soul

11-08-2003, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. Maybe.

JMJ

11-08-2003, 03:01 PM

Thank God for HIP-HOUSE, which bridged the gap between the two and.......OK, maybe it didn't, but.....I'm not sure what it did other than give Fast Eddie a job. That's a good thing, isn't it??.......JMJ graemlins/conf44.gif

JMJ

11-08-2003, 03:07 PM

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The #1 House Artist of ALL-TIME!! If Eddie lurks, I hope he knows I'm just phucking with him.......JMJ :D

Querck

11-08-2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
Thank God for HIP-HOUSE, which bridged the gap between the two and.......OK, maybe it didn't, but.....I'm not sure what it did other than give Fast Eddie a job. That's a good thing, isn't it??.......JMJ graemlins/conf44.gif This reminds me of some new magazine cover with Richie Hawtin and Wyclef. It was the cheesiet interview I've ever read. The whole time Richie was kissing Wyclef's ass, while it was obvious that Wyclef had no clue what he was talking about, in terms of electronic music.

Huey P. Freeman

11-08-2003, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. [/QB]...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM[/QB]

Ass backwards statement. That's like saying your torso created your arms and legs. Hiphop didn't create those things. Those things are what hiphop is. Along with mc'ing. People who are not really into hiphop say stupid shit like that. They don't understand those things are the DNA that make up hiphop. People listen to 50 on the radio and think they know hiphop.

Bold Soul

11-08-2003, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. ...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM[/QB]

Ass backwards statement. That's like saying your torso created your arms and legs. Hiphop didn't create those things. Those things are what hiphop is. Along with mc'ing. People who are not really into hiphop say stupid shit like that. They don't understand those things are the DNA that make up hiphop. People listen to 50 on the radio and think they know hiphop. [/QB][/QUOTE]Ah...okay Eargasm...you read the above post as if I was pertaining to the MUSIC. I'm referring to Hip Hop CULTURE - the overall environment that spawned everything you just said.

Oh...by the way...stop acting like an asshole. You talk waaaayyy too tough sometimes.

Huey P. Freeman

11-08-2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. ...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM

Ass backwards statement. That's like saying your torso created your arms and legs. Hiphop didn't create those things. Those things are what hiphop is. Along with mc'ing. People who are not really into hiphop say stupid shit like that. They don't understand those things are the DNA that make up hiphop. People listen to 50 on the radio and think they know hiphop. [/QB][/QUOTE]Ah...okay Eargasm...you read the above post as if I was pertaining to the MUSIC. I'm referring to Hip Hop CULTURE - the overall environment that spawned everything you just said.

Oh...by the way...stop acting like an asshole. You talk waaaayyy too tough sometimes. [/QB][/QUOTE]I wasn't talking tough(no threats or name calling). I felt that statement showed zero understanding of what hiphop is. Hiphop didn't spawn that stuff that stuff is hiphop.

[ November 08, 2003, 03:31 PM: Message edited by: Eargasm ]

Bold Soul

11-08-2003, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. ...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM

Ass backwards statement. That's like saying your torso created your arms and legs. Hiphop didn't create those things. Those things are what hiphop is. Along with mc'ing. People who are not really into hiphop say stupid shit like that. They don't understand those things are the DNA that make up hiphop. People listen to 50 on the radio and think they know hiphop. [/QUOTE]Ah...okay Eargasm...you read the above post as if I was pertaining to the MUSIC. I'm referring to Hip Hop CULTURE - the overall environment that spawned everything you just said.

Oh...by the way...stop acting like an asshole. You talk waaaayyy too tough sometimes. [/QB][/QUOTE]I wasn't talking tough(no threats or name calling). I felt that statement showed zero understanding of what hiphop is. Hiphop didn't spawn that stuff that stuff is hiphop. [/QB][/QUOTE]Ah...your perception...and since it's impossible to debate matters of perception, I'll state this...

You don't know shit about what anyone else knows. YOU BARELY KNOW WHAT THE FCUK YOU THINK YOU KNOW.

You talk waaaaayyyy too much shit, Eargasm. Don't think I didn't see that "companion" topic you started. You think I can't read between the lines?

Debate is one thing, but you come at people on some ol' character criticism shit. Last time there was a thread that sparked discussion, you took it to some immature and hostile place like this and you got banned. Back again for more bullshit, huh?

Were you able to take it as well as you dish it out, I would let it pass, but you always come with some empty hostility. It's lame, it's bitch and now, after the second time, I'm taking it personal.

And don't come at me apologizing in PMs either. Come with the respect you undeservedly receive and there's no problem. Keep that shit up and I'll have to "buy you a beer".

[ November 08, 2003, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: Danny Gardner ]

Huey P. Freeman

11-08-2003, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. ...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM

Ass backwards statement. That's like saying your torso created your arms and legs. Hiphop didn't create those things. Those things are what hiphop is. Along with mc'ing. People who are not really into hiphop say stupid shit like that. They don't understand those things are the DNA that make up hiphop. People listen to 50 on the radio and think they know hiphop. [/QUOTE]Ah...okay Eargasm...you read the above post as if I was pertaining to the MUSIC. I'm referring to Hip Hop CULTURE - the overall environment that spawned everything you just said.

Oh...by the way...stop acting like an asshole. You talk waaaayyy too tough sometimes. [/QUOTE]I wasn't talking tough(no threats or name calling). I felt that statement showed zero understanding of what hiphop is. Hiphop didn't spawn that stuff that stuff is hiphop. [/QB][/QUOTE]Ah...your perception...and since it's impossible to debate matters of perception, I'll state this...

You don't know shit about what anyone else knows. YOU BARELY KNOW WHAT THE FCUK YOU THINK YOU KNOW.

You talk waaaaayyyy too much shit, Eargasm. Don't think I didn't see that topic you started. Debate is one thing, but you come at people on some ol' character criticism shit. Last time there was a thread that sparked discussion, you took it to some immature and hostile place like this and you got banned. Back again for more bullshit, huh?

Were you able to take it as well as you dish it out, I would let it pass, but you always come with some empty hostility. It's lame, it's bitch and now, after the second time, I'm taking it personal.

And don't come at me apologizing in PMs either. Come with the respect you undeservedly receive and there's no problem. Keep that shit up and I'll have to "buy you a beer". [/QB][/QUOTE]Calm down. The hostility is coming from you not me. I critiqued your statement. Happens alot around here. If you disagree then put your counterpoint out. Those things ARE hiphop and not a biproduct of hiphop. I never called you any names. I don't have anything to apologize for. And that thread was sparked as much by the "House is dead" rhetoric around here lately as by your statement. Wasn't anything personal.

[ November 08, 2003, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: Eargasm ]

Bold Soul

11-08-2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. ...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM

Ass backwards statement. That's like saying your torso created your arms and legs. Hiphop didn't create those things. Those things are what hiphop is. Along with mc'ing. People who are not really into hiphop say stupid shit like that. They don't understand those things are the DNA that make up hiphop. People listen to 50 on the radio and think they know hiphop. [/QUOTE]Ah...okay Eargasm...you read the above post as if I was pertaining to the MUSIC. I'm referring to Hip Hop CULTURE - the overall environment that spawned everything you just said.

Oh...by the way...stop acting like an asshole. You talk waaaayyy too tough sometimes. [/QUOTE]I wasn't talking tough(no threats or name calling). I felt that statement showed zero understanding of what hiphop is. Hiphop didn't spawn that stuff that stuff is hiphop. [/QUOTE]Ah...your perception...and since it's impossible to debate matters of perception, I'll state this...

You don't know shit about what anyone else knows. YOU BARELY KNOW WHAT THE FCUK YOU THINK YOU KNOW.

You talk waaaaayyyy too much shit, Eargasm. Don't think I didn't see that topic you started. Debate is one thing, but you come at people on some ol' character criticism shit. Last time there was a thread that sparked discussion, you took it to some immature and hostile place like this and you got banned. Back again for more bullshit, huh?

Were you able to take it as well as you dish it out, I would let it pass, but you always come with some empty hostility. It's lame, it's bitch and now, after the second time, I'm taking it personal.

And don't come at me apologizing in PMs either. Come with the respect you undeservedly receive and there's no problem. Keep that shit up and I'll have to "buy you a beer". [/QB][/QUOTE]Calm down. The hostility is coming from you not me. I critiqued your statement. Happens alot around here. If you disagree then put your counterpoint out. Those things ARE hiphop and not a biproduct of hiphop. I never called you any names. I don't have anything to apologize for. [/QB][/QUOTE]Whatever. I dropped it the way I see it. You always have a mouth full of who doesn't know this or that. That isn't a critique of a statement - that's a condemnation of an individual who made the statement - and you always play dumb when others call you out for it.

Either learn some simple 12th grade rhetoric or learn when you can make a point without insulting someone. That, or just own up to the fact that you like talking tough on this message board. Either way, avoid doing that shit with me from now on and we're cool.

Huey P. Freeman

11-08-2003, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Sexy:
Maybe you're on to something. ...sparking MULTIPLE ART FORMS, including GRAFFITI, BREAKING, TURNTABLISM

Ass backwards statement. That's like saying your torso created your arms and legs. Hiphop didn't create those things. Those things are what hiphop is. Along with mc'ing. People who are not really into hiphop say stupid shit like that. They don't understand those things are the DNA that make up hiphop. People listen to 50 on the radio and think they know hiphop. [/QUOTE]Ah...okay Eargasm...you read the above post as if I was pertaining to the MUSIC. I'm referring to Hip Hop CULTURE - the overall environment that spawned everything you just said.

Oh...by the way...stop acting like an asshole. You talk waaaayyy too tough sometimes. [/QUOTE]I wasn't talking tough(no threats or name calling). I felt that statement showed zero understanding of what hiphop is. Hiphop didn't spawn that stuff that stuff is hiphop. [/QUOTE]Ah...your perception...and since it's impossible to debate matters of perception, I'll state this...

You don't know shit about what anyone else knows. YOU BARELY KNOW WHAT THE FCUK YOU THINK YOU KNOW.

You talk waaaaayyyy too much shit, Eargasm. Don't think I didn't see that topic you started. Debate is one thing, but you come at people on some ol' character criticism shit. Last time there was a thread that sparked discussion, you took it to some immature and hostile place like this and you got banned. Back again for more bullshit, huh?

Were you able to take it as well as you dish it out, I would let it pass, but you always come with some empty hostility. It's lame, it's bitch and now, after the second time, I'm taking it personal.

And don't come at me apologizing in PMs either. Come with the respect you undeservedly receive and there's no problem. Keep that shit up and I'll have to "buy you a beer". [/QUOTE]Calm down. The hostility is coming from you not me. I critiqued your statement. Happens alot around here. If you disagree then put your counterpoint out. Those things ARE hiphop and not a biproduct of hiphop. I never called you any names. I don't have anything to apologize for. [/QB][/QUOTE]Whatever. I dropped it the way I see it. You always have a mouth full of who doesn't know this or that. That isn't a critique of a statement - that's a condemnation of an individual who made the statement - and you always play dumb when others call you out for it.

Either learn some simple 12th grade rhetoric or learn when you can make a point without insulting someone. That, or just own up to the fact that you like talking tough on this message board. Either way, avoid doing that shit with me from now on and we're cool. [/QB][/QUOTE]Wasn't meant to be personal. I wasn't talking tough. If it came off that way my bad. That shit with Magus was/is personal. And he was just as much at fault for that shit as I was. And it was isolated and has nothing to do with this. I have no beef with you.

Ron la Rock

11-08-2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
Thank God for HIP-HOUSE, which bridged the gap between the two and.......OK, maybe it didn't, but.....I'm not sure what it did other than give Fast Eddie a job. That's a good thing, isn't it??.......JMJ graemlins/conf44.gif hu actually it did for time in nyc it mos def brought a whole generation together here turned many of my compardres into bonified house heads
its really nota joke that there isn't anthing like that going on now

oh well lets hope that Rah- digga record make some of todays hip hops kids intertested!

Bold Soul

11-08-2003, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Ron paizley:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Thank God for HIP-HOUSE, which bridged the gap between the two and.......OK, maybe it didn't, but.....I'm not sure what it did other than give Fast Eddie a job. That's a good thing, isn't it??.......JMJ graemlins/conf44.gif hu actually it did for time in nyc it mos def brought a whole generation together here turned many of my compardres into bonified house heads
its really nota joke that there isn't anthing like that going on now

oh well lets hope that Rah- digga record make some of todays hip hops kids intertested! [/QUOTE]Man, I was huge into the Fast Eddie and Hip House stuff. It was progressive, and from what I remember, I couldn't go to a party and not hear it.

One thing I dug is how DJs would play Hip-Hop 12" on 45rpm and then pitch them down to go along with the house tempo. PE's "Don't Believe the Hype" and LL's "Jack the Ripper" were two cuts that went really well in a set like that.

Ron la Rock

11-08-2003, 05:36 PM

THANK GOD MISSY AND TIMBERLAND UNDERSTAND
MUSIC IS MUSIC espec BLACK music

of coarse houeheads can't stand it

Ron la Rock

11-08-2003, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Ron paizley:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Thank God for HIP-HOUSE, which bridged the gap between the two and.......OK, maybe it didn't, but.....I'm not sure what it did other than give Fast Eddie a job. That's a good thing, isn't it??.......JMJ graemlins/conf44.gif hu actually it did for time in nyc it mos def brought a whole generation together here turned many of my compardres into bonified house heads
its really nota joke that there isn't anthing like that going on now

oh well lets hope that Rah- digga record make some of todays hip hops kids intertested! [/QUOTE]Man, I was huge into the Fast Eddie and Hip House stuff. It was progressive, and from what I remember, I couldn't go to a party and not hear it.

One thing I dug is how DJs would play Hip-Hop 12" on 45rpm and then pitch them down to go along with the house tempo. PE's "Don't Believe the Hype" and LL's "Jack the Ripper" were two cuts that went really well in a set like that. [/QUOTE]shhh
Bobby konders/dimitry (dee*lite)/Johnny dynell/
all used 2 drop hiphop in thier house sets thats
espec mr Konders with the reggea as well
but that was then

try that now now these fuques will throw holy water on your ass or sumthin

[ November 08, 2003, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: Ron paizley ]