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dr soul
11-13-2003, 08:20 AM
well as new to this forum , i got a question for the deep house headz.
which period do you think was the best for deep house and which songs have left their flav to this period?
The '60s was the best era in House music. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif
upliftdisco365
11-13-2003, 08:41 AM
1.'85-'87
These songs were the raw, butt-nekkit birth of house. Gritty, bumping, earnest joints that have stood the test of time.
2. '89-'92
I think that it was here that bona fide songwriters began to understand how to inject that rolling groove into Dance records. Allison Limerick and Loni Clark Projects come to mind.
3. NOW.
2000 to present. Deep House has gone in a very creative, earthy direction. Writers are writing compelling melodies with intricate, lively accompaniments again. You've got Blaze and Louie, but then you've got Peven Everett and Shaun Escofrey and still you've got Big Moses, Duron Tarik, Stacey Mallory and, that's right, baaaabay, Workin' Undaneef....
GROOVE VICTIM
11-13-2003, 09:36 AM
88 to 95
Everything made today is a result of that era.
Larry Heard, Lil Louis, Masters at Work, Blaze, The Burrell Brothers, Basement Boys, Kerri Chandler, Jovonn, Wayne Gardiner, Mood II Swing, Todd Terry, DJ Pierre, Roy Davis Jr, Erick Morillo, Armand Van Helden, Roger Sanchez, Tony Humphries, John Robinson RIP, Victor Simonelli, Byron Burke, Maurice Joshua, Terry Hunter, Cajmere, Glenn Underground, Boo Williams, DJ Sneak, Paul Johnson, E-Smoove, Jehpte Guillerme, Phil Asher, Ashley Beedle, and a few others have all contributed excellent music during this time period.
Everything now is regurgitated. The only innovators in these days and times are Theo Parrish, Kenny Dixon Jr, Amp Fidler and a few who are willing to wait for their time to come and refuse to kiss everyone's ass and keep on doing their thang.
Peace
Red D
11-13-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
88 to 95
Everything made today is a result of that era.
Larry Heard, Lil Louis, Masters at Work, Blaze, The Burrell Brothers, Basement Boys, Kerri Chandler, Jovonn, Wayne Gardiner, Mood II Swing, Todd Terry, DJ Pierre, Roy Davis Jr, Erick Morillo, Armand Van Helden, Roger Sanchez, Tony Humphries, John Robinson RIP, Victor Simonelli, Byron Burke, Maurice Joshua, Terry Hunter, Cajmere, Glenn Underground, Boo Williams, DJ Sneak, Paul Johnson, E-Smoove, Jehpte Guillerme, Phil Asher, Ashley Beedle, and a few others have all contributed excellent music during this time period.
Everything now is regurgitated. The only innovators in these days and times are Theo Parrish, Kenny Dixon Jr, Amp Fidler and a few who are willing to wait for their time to come and refuse to kiss everyone's ass and keep on doing their thang.
Peace So that means that today still is a great time as well, it only takes some individuals to make a period great IMO, so I'd say 1985 till today, from Fingers' 'Mystery Of Love' to Ambrosia's 'That's How Much I Love You'.
RD
GROOVE VICTIM
11-13-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
88 to 95
Everything made today is a result of that era.
Larry Heard, Lil Louis, Masters at Work, Blaze, The Burrell Brothers, Basement Boys, Kerri Chandler, Jovonn, Wayne Gardiner, Mood II Swing, Todd Terry, DJ Pierre, Roy Davis Jr, Erick Morillo, Armand Van Helden, Roger Sanchez, Tony Humphries, John Robinson RIP, Victor Simonelli, Byron Burke, Maurice Joshua, Terry Hunter, Cajmere, Glenn Underground, Boo Williams, DJ Sneak, Paul Johnson, E-Smoove, Jehpte Guillerme, Phil Asher, Ashley Beedle, and a few others have all contributed excellent music during this time period.
Everything now is regurgitated. The only innovators in these days and times are Theo Parrish, Kenny Dixon Jr, Amp Fidler and a few who are willing to wait for their time to come and refuse to kiss everyone's ass and keep on doing their thang.
Peace So that means that today still is a great time as well, it only takes some individuals to make a period great IMO, so I'd say 1985 till today, from Fingers' 'Mystery Of Love' to Ambrosia's 'That's How Much I Love You'.
RD </font>[/QUOTE]I wonder if the internet was as advanced as it is today during that time period and we had message boards such as this one, that people would be creating threads such as "House is Dead" during those ealier years in the late 80s and mid 90s.
Although the Internet House community is a small one, it still is effective. Something to think about.
Peace
'Magic' Juan
11-18-2003, 08:58 AM
IMO, 85 through 93 were some of the best years. House was RAW in it's early days and most of the tracks released during that time are now considered classics. Then in the late 80's, early 90's, labels like Strictly Rhythm and Cajual came on the scene and took the music to new levels. Somewhere around '94 or so, things got a bit boring (IMO). Yes, a few golden gems popped up, but I have yet to hear a release that will turn the genre upside down. Again, just my two bits ..
magic_juan
gotta agree wit magic juan 85-93.
but i must say there have been a few artists to shake things up in recent years i.e. metro area, bugz in the attic crew. and i'll even give 2-step a little whoot for the mear fact that it was a progression, taking house to a place it hasn't been before.
just my 2¢
The best era?
Anytime my ass shows up and really has a good time.
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Cordell
11-18-2003, 09:46 AM
I say from 1981 thru '86, when the scene was raw and the music was fresh. I think that the music fell off from 86- early 89.
90's, but what is deep?
Actually a resurgence is coming for the melody-ridden (Euphoric) stuff or let us hope...
Mark Herring
11-18-2003, 10:10 AM
Has to be the 1980's. 1990's was to commercial for house. and I have a feeling this decade is showing that it will be one to remember for dance music.
MrLiam
11-18-2003, 03:31 PM
I MIGHT add that late 80s ie 1988 - 1990 where very prominent and progresive for the development of house & dance music in general - & i wish we all go back in time to those days where the barrier of styles was really down to nothing biggrinangel.gif but i think the scene has to go a lot more underground then we think to arrive to that level of understanding from the average DJS to the normal dancers
Nick_G
11-18-2003, 04:05 PM
Well I seriously got into house & techno in 1989 so most of the earlier stuff I have I bought in sales/second hand or is on compilations.
For me I suppose there were two periods: late 80s-early 90s when there were labels like Nu Groove putting out serious quality and also Chicago guys like Ron Trent (Altered States!), Terry Hunter, and of course Larry Heard. Strictly Rhythm started around then too and they also had some excellent material.
The second period for me was when Relief Records started around 1993. They have got to be one of my favourite house labels ever, as between '93-'95 they were unstoppable, putting out anything from raw tracks to deep sensual material, as well as techno-flavoured tracks. They were like a who's who of the Chicago scene: Boo Williams, Green Velvet, Gemini, Paul Johnson, etc. etc.
What happened to them? It's a long time since I saw a new release from this label.
My main musical heroes would have to be Carl Craig and Underground Resistance. Not strictly house, but when I was buying vinyl in the early 90s their music was inspirational, astounding and still sounds just as good today. I think some of Carl Craig's earlier material still sounds astonishing in 2003, 13 years after its release.
Some of the best house for me now is coming from labels like Perlon, mixing up deep house, dub minimalism and techno. One of my favourite recent-ish house albums was Luomo's 'Vocalcity'. 'Tessio' is an astounding track.
Derrick Carter and Moodymann are also big favourites of mine.
djyoavb
11-18-2003, 04:16 PM
may 3rd 1986 till november 21st 1994
shannoneileen
11-18-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
1.'85-'87
These songs were the raw, butt-nekkit birth of house. Gritty, bumping, earnest joints that have stood the test of time.
2. '89-'92
I think that it was here that bona fide songwriters began to understand how to inject that rolling groove into Dance records. Allison Limerick and Loni Clark Projects come to mind.
3. NOW.
2000 to present. Deep House has gone in a very creative, earthy direction. Writers are writing compelling melodies with intricate, lively accompaniments again. You've got Blaze and Louie, but then you've got Peven Everett and Shaun Escofrey and still you've got Big Moses, Duron Tarik, Stacey Mallory and, that's right, baaaabay, Workin' Undaneef.... I LOVE Peven Everett!!!
Every time I hear his voice.... ahhh... graemlins/1luvu.gif
Originally posted by Shannon_Shawan:
I LOVE Peven Everett!!!
Every time I hear his voice.... ahhh... graemlins/1luvu.gif whoo hoo ... me too sister.
Nick_G
11-18-2003, 05:31 PM
Agree on Peven Everett too. Comparable to the likes of Marvin Gaye IMO.
Norma Jean Bell definitely does it for me too, mmmm graemlins/1luvu.gif
djyoavb
11-18-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Nick_G:
Agree on Peven Everett too. Comparable to the likes of Marvin Gaye IMO.
Norma Jean Bell definitely does it for me too, mmmm graemlins/1luvu.gif woooo hold your horses bro... Mr. Everett might be good but he's miles away from Gaye... regarding anything...
NJB on the other hand is BIG! she is soooooooooo good hail.gif
Elbert Phillips
11-18-2003, 05:44 PM
1983 - '85:
The music, the spaces, the people, the fashions.
1990 -' 94
The music!
Jamie 3:26
11-18-2003, 05:56 PM
81-87...The great years of development.
87-89...a new generation comes in and takes it up a notch...
90-94...My favorite years for partying.Some of the best club was being dropped left and right.
95-98-More quality,even some good techno grooves dropped then,like Paperclip people.
99-present-Things took a bad turn on some levels,but then again,I re-discovered house and I was like a teenager again..hungry for music,the hottest newest shit I could find.
What's to come.....The Chicago re-birth.Things are gonna go back to the raw roots of things.It has to,it's been written,so it will be.
Most of the years I am talking about are from a chicagoan view of things.
DJ CHRIS PURTELL
11-18-2003, 07:02 PM
early 90s graemlins/cool_shades.gif
beaniboy67
11-19-2003, 02:38 AM
loved the syuff in the late 80s and early 90s.it was all new to me and i was digging it the movie :D
right now tho
lots of great stuff i feel.a lot of people on here will disagree and say the music now is crap.i totally disagree with that and i think some of the stuff by the following artists is superb!
osunlade
tortured soul
shaun escoferry
nathan haines
louie
quentin harris stuff
GU
spinna's work
markus enochson
demarkus lewis
i could go on and on but will leave it at that.
ooops i forgot about a lot the blaze releases! smile.gif
[ November 19, 2003, 02:39 AM: Message edited by: beaniboy67 ]
I don't know about 'best' because each 'era' has had its load of great production. Today's music is fantastic (sure there is crap, but there always has been). The early 90s is what come to mind first because house boomed at that point, and there was spanking underground raw cuts coming out all the time.
In terms of production, the coming of new labels in the mid-90s (Spiritual Life Music, Wave, Ibadan, KDJ) gave some fresh air to what was becoming pretty repetitive. I don't think anyone can contest the impact of those labels on the state of house music today.
Personally, I'm amazed by the quantity of good music there is out there, even today. I'm sorry I can't answer this question; for me there was a great era for partying, a great era when I started record shopping and discovering music, it has a lot to do with personal experiences. But there is still tons of good shit coming out everyday, and that is fortunate otherwise we're going where Northern Soul went. ;)
imported_Marco
11-19-2003, 09:08 AM
Where did "northern soul" went???
Mixing nyc/chicago born dance culture and rare soul culture is totally wrong.
Ciaooo!
'Magic' Juan
11-19-2003, 09:33 AM
Can't say I know much about the Northern Soul scene, therefore I didn't bring it up.
magic_juan graemlins/conf44.gif
[ November 19, 2003, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: Magic Juan ]
Originally posted by Marco:
Where did "northern soul" went???
in the recycle bin perhaps.
Dj Pat
11-19-2003, 11:01 AM
From 80-85!!!
The Fashion, the Sounds, the way Partys was as if your with Familys and everyone got along!
Willie Smith (RIP)was the hottest Designer in the 80s, its Sad that you dont hear any mention of that from anyone.
Thats when Mixing was an Art form. No type of Beat counters, DR4's, no CD Players. It was either you could or you cant.
No help from a computer, just raw!!!
Dj Pat
Physical Heat Music.
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