WE GOT MARK FARINA TONIGHT!!!

[Woody Rosen]

BOOYA!!


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I'll leave this alone. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif

[gabriel]

yeah good cuz everyone on this board has got more to give than farina and is better than him and is more house than him and he's not deep enough and he blah blah blah blah blah blah...

zzzzzzzzzzz

[Ben.]

mark is an excellent dj graemlins/OLA.gif

[gabriel]

http://www.undergroundhouse.net

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Originally posted by Ben.:
mark is an excellent dj graemlins/OLA.gif His technical skills are. I'll give him that. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif

[And]

Originally posted by Woody Rosen:
BOOYA!!


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[gabriel]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ben.:
mark is an excellent dj graemlins/OLA.gif His technical skills are. I'll give him that. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif </font>[/QUOTE]but what...he doesn't choose the same records you would?

[Moksha]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ben.:
mark is an excellent dj graemlins/OLA.gif His technical skills are. I'll give him that. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif </font>[/QUOTE]but what...he doesn't choose the same records you would? </font>[/QUOTE]Damn. . .why all the hostility? You do seem very defensive, especially considering how little has been said. Some people like him, some don't, as with every DJ. (Just check the Timmy Regisford threads!)

[gabriel]

haha... and you sir seem to be on dhp. not everything typed has an antagonistic tone to it ;)

[And]

Hi Gabriel ... :D

Oh yeah .. I'd still like to read what Woody thought of Mark's set ..

[ October 05, 2003, 12:16 PM: Message edited by: 6 23 ]

[Moksha]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
haha... and you sir seem to be on dhp. not everything typed has an antagonistic tone to it ;) oh, I must have misread the "blah blah blahs" and "zzzz."

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[Woody Rosen]

Originally posted by 6 23:
Hi Gabriel ... :D

Oh yeah .. I'd still like to read what Woody thought of Mark's set .. it was incredible. he ended up playing a 3 and a half hour set. the place was packed and EVERYONE was movin, which doesnt happen too often down here. and we got to hear him play Adonis "no way back" which is never bad. i mean, some of yall might not think he's all that, but here in dallas, texas we are happy to get whatever we can, which lately hasnt been too bad.

bottom line, he rocked it for me and everybody else that i talked to.

[ October 05, 2003, 01:48 PM: Message edited by: Woody Rosen ]

[And]

Originally posted by Woody Rosen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
Hi Gabriel ... :D

Oh yeah .. I'd still like to read what Woody thought of Mark's set .. it was incredible. he ended up playing a 3 and a half hour set. the place was packed and EVERYONE was movin, which doesnt happen too often down here. and we got to hear him play Adonis "no way back" which is never bad. i mean, some of yall might not think he's all that, but here in dallas, texas we are happy to get whatever we can, which lately hasnt been too bad.

bottom line, he rocked it for me and everybody else that i talked to. </font>[/QUOTE]Cool ... Mark tends to generate that everyone moving vibe quite well. Even times I've heard him knowing I didn't feel his set as much as others, I've always been impressed by how he engaged the crowd.
Anything else stand out for you about the set/night?

[Woody Rosen]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Woody Rosen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
Hi Gabriel ... :D

Oh yeah .. I'd still like to read what Woody thought of Mark's set .. it was incredible. he ended up playing a 3 and a half hour set. the place was packed and EVERYONE was movin, which doesnt happen too often down here. and we got to hear him play Adonis "no way back" which is never bad. i mean, some of yall might not think he's all that, but here in dallas, texas we are happy to get whatever we can, which lately hasnt been too bad.

bottom line, he rocked it for me and everybody else that i talked to. </font>[/QUOTE]Cool ... Mark tends to generate that everyone moving vibe quite well. Even times I've heard him knowing I didn't feel his set as much as others, I've always been impressed by how he engaged the crowd.
Anything else stand out for you about the set/night? </font>[/QUOTE]well to me it seemed like he wasn't doing anything TOO technical. he was promoting his new album of original material, and seemed to be really focusing a lot on his new tracks that he put out. he was also a really down to earth person. he took time after his set was done to chill with people outside the club and just talk about shit. another cool thing was he closed his set with some dialogue from the old tv show "dallas" i was kinda dissapointed because i was sure he was going to use it do fade into some acid jazz, but it was still great.

im sure that living in chicago, ny, jersey etc. you would be used to higher caliber djs than this on a daily basis. so i can understand that it might sound kinda dumb for some kid out of dallas to be goin on and on about this guy. we may not get a whole lot, but we appreciate the quality djs that do come through town.

[And]

Originally posted by Woody Rosen:
im sure that living in chicago, ny, jersey etc. you would be used to higher caliber djs than this on a daily basis. so i can understand that it might sound kinda dumb for some kid out of dallas to be goin on and on about this guy. we may not get a whole lot, but we appreciate the quality djs that do come through town. You're cute Woody ... I really am just interested in your impression of the night ... I've read you on here expressing your interest in Mark Farina and I was hoping you had a good time. ;)
Er ... that's one mighty Assumption horse you're riding sonny ...
Virginia ... (Town .. Far from DC ... graemlins/mecry.gif )
Higher Caliber - According to my senses or yours(?)
Daily basis? - Heh, heh ... Er sometimes I sleep entire days away ... icon_rofl.gif Not necessarily in a row though ...

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[JoeB]

as long as you had fun, woody. that's all that counts in my book.

[And]

Oh ... I don't care you're from Dallas ... I don't not care either ... Que? ;)
The dumb part ... Why?
Good to read you appreciate the Djs you deem quality when they do come through your town ...
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Journeys by Dj by him is I think my favourite (? Red/orange cover)
I like Seasons for the Kerri track he included on there ...
Mushroom jazz ..
Dug (mainly crowd appreciation) him when I saw him in Chicago last year 'cause he played with Derrick Carter and amazing similarities/influences in style
At the Edge in DC 90s ... Probably one of the best nights/crowds I'd enjoyed ...
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Peas ...

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[ October 05, 2003, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: 6 23 ]

[big d]

mark farina is a slamming dj! people need to open their minds to appreciate that theres room for a bunch of different djs with different styles. some people seem to think that mark doesnt play enough variety, but imo if you go hear him , sure you know its gonna be a pretty straight up 4/4 set, but he's still the kind of dj that will drop some nice vocals, some classic house tracks etc into the mix - so i find it hardgoing when djs like mark are often confused with the tech-house sound, or whatever else. and if you want more variety, you'll go elsewhere.. i certainly dont get why there isnt more support for guys like mark or derrick carter or diz or certain other wicked house/techno djs. it seems theyre associated with the rave scene but i'm sure they could rock a varied set for the deeper heads if the scene were to open up a bit.. just look at david morales - he plays a lot of straight up bull*hit a hell of the lot of the time, but he (apparently) rocked the *uck out of shelter earlier this year.. so many of these guys who get no respect on this page can straight up play, whatever the crowd, but just happens they get booked more for the apparently non-deep clubs, so they perhaps dont switch it up like they might do - would you if it meant losing the floor? however they do play a some pretty good records (many that get mad respect here), and still seem to drop a few deep or classic cuts which might have the kids out digging a little deeper and embracing a slightly more varied soulful sound, who knows....

[james]

sorry that im not "open minded" but most of the records on that mix where weak...not feeling mark farina.. :rolleyes:

[big d]

fine, just thought peeps would know what to expect from mark these days (when he plays in a certain situation)

ive just always felt that guys like mark or dc deserve a little more credit for what they do, but if you thought he was wack then that cool

i'm not suggesting that you need to be open-minded to appreciate mark (not at all), just that there is a place for his style amongst the styles of so many other djs, many of whom mix it up a bit more.. but i wasnt there so you thought the tracks were weak theres a chance i would have felt the same, although it sounds like some people had a good time there, which is what counts really

[Slyde]

How many other DJs are sucessful with both downtempo and jackin' stuff? He's also one of the few "big" DJs that got like that by just being a great DJ live and not because he put out one good record....he's one of the most versatile DJs around IMO....but that's hard for most people to follow I guess...I'm still walking on clouds from a set he played here in Montreal in the summer....go Mark!

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Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ben.:
mark is an excellent dj graemlins/OLA.gif His technical skills are. I'll give him that. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif </font>[/QUOTE]but what...he doesn't choose the same records you would? </font>[/QUOTE]Pretty much.

[Siesta]

you should try to be a little more open minded than that. you will probably feel alot better

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Originally posted by Jeff Carroll:
you should try to be a little more open minded than that. you will probably feel alot better I don't like his musical style. I don't like Paul Oakenfold, Keoki, and many other DJs. Should I be more open-minded to that too? I know what I like and I don't like what he plays. What's wrong with that?

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by DRH:
fine, just thought peeps would know what to expect from mark these days (when he plays in a certain situation)

ive just always felt that guys like mark or dc deserve a little more credit for what they do, but if you thought he was wack then that cool

i'm not suggesting that you need to be open-minded to appreciate mark (not at all), just that there is a place for his style amongst the styles of so many other djs, many of whom mix it up a bit more.. but i wasnt there so you thought the tracks were weak theres a chance i would have felt the same, although it sounds like some people had a good time there, which is what counts really i got mad respect for Derrick, Mark, and Diz but.....

see what i think you and a lot of other heads might not understand is that a lot of the peeps on this board were at one point in there lives a fan of Mark and Derrick's style.
i know i was back in the day. they both used to rock the fvck out of loft parties here in Chicago. but as time went on both dj's seemed to step away from the undergound and crossed over into playing that certain sound that was more commercially acceptable.

see what i think that most of the Mark Farina buff's and undergroundhouse.net kids that post on this board fail to realize is that for the most part, we are not knocking Mark's skills, we have all heard him beat it. it's just the way he chooses to play nowadays is not what we are really into.

and as far as Mark and Derrick not getting enough credit for their deejaying, YEAH RIGHT! both of those cats play ridiculous amounts of gigs around the globe and neither of them have to hold down a day job like a lot of us.
dude they get hella fvcking credit. and rightfully so, they deserve it. they are living a life i would love to be living. travelling around the world all expenses paid, making a serious living doing something they love to do.

i look at guys like that and get inspired to keep on reachin... though i rarely check out their dj sets anymore. :D

[Ben.]

Originally posted by aLie:
but as time went on both dj's seemed to step away from the undergound and crossed over into playing that certain sound that was more commercially acceptable.
[/QB]I tell you what I wish the stuff that DLC & Farina play was considered commercially acceptable... sheesh

[Ben.]

for the record I'm not really into the belgian set, its too fast and a most of its a bit more http://www.undergroundhouse.net/bb/images/smiles/cheese.gif than I'm used to hearing from Mark.

its only 50 minutes out of a 5 hour set though, so difficult to tell how he played overall on the night.

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by Ben.:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by aLie:
but as time went on both dj's seemed to step away from the undergound and crossed over into playing that certain sound that was more commercially acceptable.
I tell you what I wish the stuff that DLC & Farina play was considered commercially acceptable... sheesh [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]you think i don't know what i'm talking about, but i do.
i saw both jocks change up there styles to cater to a more rave oriented crowd in the mid nineties. they went from playing in front of maybe 150 - 200 people to thousands.
WHY? because they started palying music that was MORE comercially acceptable than what they were playing in the years beforehand. Commercially acceptable in the fact that now they were actually able to make a decent living from spinning rather than settling for $75.00 here and there.

dude trust me on this one, i'm from Chicago i witnessed this shit first hand with a plenty of the Jocks that ya'll think sre so sick nowadays. damn near that whole clique that keeps company with DC and Mark SERIOUSLY changed up there styles to one that enabled them to make more cash.
i used to love going out to hear all those cats back in the day and i still listen to all the old mix tapes.

[Ben.]

oh I'm not even bothering...
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[Siesta]

with the demise of raves in the US, alot of the well known, older "rave circuit" dj's no longer play to crowds of thousands. this has allowed many of them to adjust their styles to fit smaller venues. some changed, some haven't. farina has definatley changed his sound again. in the past 2 years i have seen him play some very deep sets. full of classic tracks. yes, he will play new stuff, but his style is so smooth, he is worth checking out. if you haven't seen him in a few years, give him a chance, you might like it.

[gabriel]

Thursday October 9: LA / Avalon Hollywood, 1735 N Vine Street

Friday October 10: Portland / Ohm, 31 NW 1st Avenue

Saturday October 11: Seattle / Chop Suey, 1325 E Madison St

Thursday October 16: Ann Arbor / Necto, 516 East Liberty Street

Friday October 17: Chicago / Zentra, 923 West Weed Street

Saturday October 18: Minneapolis / Escape, 600 Hennepin Ave

Friday October 24: NY / Avalon, 662 6th Avenue

Saturday October 25: Atlanta / Crescent Room, 1136 Crescent Ave

Wednesday October 29: Sante Fe / Paramount, 331 Sandoval

Thursday October 30: Boulder / Boulder Theater, 2032 14th Street

Friday October 31: San Diego / Abbey, 2825 5th Avenue

CANADIAN DATES TO FOLLOW for NOVEMBER TBA 6-8th / Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto 12-14th / Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver

onging dates

November 6th: TBD Montreal
November 7th: TBD Toronto
November 8th: TBD Ottawa
November 13th: TBD Vancouver
November 14th: TBD Victoria
November 15th: TBD Calgary
November 16th: TBD Edmonton

[ October 05, 2003, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: gabrielloveshouse ]

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by Jeff Carroll:
with the demise of raves in the US, alot of the well known, older "rave circuit" dj's no longer play to crowds of thousands. this has allowed many of them to adjust their styles to fit smaller venues. some changed, some haven't. farina has definatley changed his sound again. in the past 2 years i have seen him play some very deep sets. full of classic tracks. yes, he will play new stuff, but his style is so smooth, he is worth checking out. if you haven't seen him in a few years, give him a chance, you might like it. checked him out last summer, i had a blast.
i didn't dig the music too much but i was still dancing the whole time. (actually more like staggering around drunk as hell, trying to dance). it doesn't take much for me to have a good time. but sometimes i really do want to go out and listen to some music that i can really get into emotionally.
the last time Mark did that for me after the mid nineties was for his birthday party @ Smart Bar here in Chicago a few years back.

[Ben.]

mark doesn't get booked very much in the uk btw, last time he played here in manchester only 80 people showed up. hardly anyone knows who he is.

[gabriel]

November 19th-24th: 1st leg of Europe tour (incl. travel dates)
December 3rd - 8th: 2nd leg of Europe tour (incl. travel dates)

December 27th-January 6th: Australia

For all UK booking requests please contact:

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Tel: 44.208.767.9925
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Email: tim@mn2s.com
Web: mn2s.com

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Originally posted by aLie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jeff Carroll:
with the demise of raves in the US, alot of the well known, older "rave circuit" dj's no longer play to crowds of thousands. this has allowed many of them to adjust their styles to fit smaller venues. some changed, some haven't. farina has definatley changed his sound again. in the past 2 years i have seen him play some very deep sets. full of classic tracks. yes, he will play new stuff, but his style is so smooth, he is worth checking out. if you haven't seen him in a few years, give him a chance, you might like it. checked him out last summer, i had a blast.
i didn't dig the music too much but i was still dancing the whole time. (actually more like staggering around drunk as hell, trying to dance). it doesn't take much for me to have a good time. but sometimes i really do want to go out and listen to some music that i can really get into emotionally.
the last time Mark did that for me after the mid nineties was for his birthday party @ Smart Bar here in Chicago a few years back. </font>[/QUOTE]Dawg you may as well give up--you can't rationalize with people that don't know the difference. We were there so we know about--when Diz and Derrick played much deeper, when Mark played that funky mid-tempo shit, when Collette was still in HS coming to loft parties, when Heather was hip-hop, when Sneak opened for me at a party and used to call me for disco advice, when you could hire the top three above to do a party for $50, when Gene Farris and DJ Rush were Disco/edit fiends--they just don't get it!

[YUJI-SAN]

Originally posted by aLie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DRH:
fine, just thought peeps would know what to expect from mark these days (when he plays in a certain situation)

ive just always felt that guys like mark or dc deserve a little more credit for what they do, but if you thought he was wack then that cool

i'm not suggesting that you need to be open-minded to appreciate mark (not at all), just that there is a place for his style amongst the styles of so many other djs, many of whom mix it up a bit more.. but i wasnt there so you thought the tracks were weak theres a chance i would have felt the same, although it sounds like some people had a good time there, which is what counts really i got mad respect for Derrick, Mark, and Diz but.....

see what i think you and a lot of other heads might not understand is that a lot of the peeps on this board were at one point in there lives a fan of Mark and Derrick's style.
i know i was back in the day. they both used to rock the fvck out of loft parties here in Chicago. but as time went on both dj's seemed to step away from the undergound and crossed over into playing that certain sound that was more commercially acceptable.

see what i think that most of the Mark Farina buff's and undergroundhouse.net kids that post on this board fail to realize is that for the most part, we are not knocking Mark's skills, we have all heard him beat it. it's just the way he chooses to play nowadays is not what we are really into.

and as far as Mark and Derrick not getting enough credit for their deejaying, YEAH RIGHT! both of those cats play ridiculous amounts of gigs around the globe and neither of them have to hold down a day job like a lot of us.
dude they get hella fvcking credit. and rightfully so, they deserve it. they are living a life i would love to be living. travelling around the world all expenses paid, making a serious living doing something they love to do.

i look at guys like that and get inspired to keep on reachin... though i rarely check out their dj sets anymore. :D </font>[/QUOTE]Damn you just took the words right out of my mouth. :D

[And]

Originally posted by whyteout:
Dawg you may as well give up--you can't rationalize with people that don't know the difference. We were there so we know about--when Diz and Derrick played much deeper, when Mark played that funky mid-tempo shit, when Collette was still in HS coming to loft parties, when Heather was hip-hop, when Sneak opened for me at a party and used to call me for disco advice, when you could hire the top three above to do a party for $50, when Gene Farris and DJ Rush were Disco/edit fiends--they just don't get it!Knowing/experiencing the different spinning styles a Dj has gone through has much to do with how old you are and the amount of exposure you've had to the Dj's music. Oh ... then there's personal taste.
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A number of articles or threads about Kerri that I've glanced in often have people listing off certain tracks of his from specific time periods as being 'deeper,' 'raw-er (?) ... Often I've gone back to listen to these earlier "classics" by him and have liked them but not necessarily more than his newer work.
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Do people assume that to truly appreciate an artist one has to know the artist's entire discography or be familiar with more than one era of their work? How about liking what you like no matter how much or little? To me that's the adventure with music.
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I have yet to listen to a Larry Levan or Ron Hardy mix ... If and when ... okay. Do I get House music less? Er ... Ehhh ... I've only heard 3 cds and 2-3 mixes by Frankie Feliciano but you can't convince me I'm not as excited to see and hear him spin @ Sanctuary as a 'Frankiephile' would be at the news.

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The beautiful thing about this music: There really is so much going on and ... we're certainly not in any danger of running out of Djs ..

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Drat! All I wanted was Woody's review of his night ... Pardons Woody ... ;)
Woody? ...

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[manfred]

this is how i jacked it last time i saw farina at zentra in chicago...

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[big d]

Dawg you may as well give up--you can't rationalize with people that don't know the difference. We were there so we know about--when Diz and Derrick played much deeper, when Mark played that funky mid-tempo shit, when Collette was still in HS coming to loft parties, when Heather was hip-hop, when Sneak opened for me at a party and used to call me for disco advice, when you could hire the top three above to do a party for $50, when Gene Farris and DJ Rush were Disco/edit fiends--they just don't get it! i'd certainly find it interesting to hear more about the parties with all those djs you mentioned back in the day. just because some of us may not be from chicago and have experienced those times (i'm from the UK and would kill to have partied with those djs when they were really kickin it on home turf) doesnt mean we all 'dont get it'. i guess some of those guys have moved on (and yeh maybe theyve lost some variety) but i still think they bring something to the table and can be the trigger for younger heads to get into the scene. ive been diggin house for 7 ish years now and in the beginning it was through getting down to djs like like sneak and d.c. that i made the link to so much other good, deep shit. we've all gotta start somewhere and people move on, for better or worse - i just still think those guys deserve some credit ( from more people on this board ) for what they bring now. damn, i just wish i'd have been there when it was really happening though!

Peace

David

[gabriel]

if anyone has tapes or mixes from this time of those dj's please post em up...or set em up on an ftp or something for downloading.


that would be fantastic.

[Moksha]

Originally posted by aLie:
and as far as Mark and Derrick not getting enough credit for their deejaying, YEAH RIGHT! both of those cats play ridiculous amounts of gigs around the globe and neither of them have to hold down a day job like a lot of us.
dude they get hella fvcking credit. and rightfully so, they deserve it. they are living a life i would love to be living. travelling around the world all expenses paid, making a serious living doing something they love to do.
:D Exactly what i was thinking. I interviewed Mark a couple weeks ago. And trust—he (and DEFINATELY Derrick) get plenty of acolades and $$.

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Originally posted by DRH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Dawg you may as well give up--you can't rationalize with people that don't know the difference. We were there so we know about--when Diz and Derrick played much deeper, when Mark played that funky mid-tempo shit, when Collette was still in HS coming to loft parties, when Heather was hip-hop, when Sneak opened for me at a party and used to call me for disco advice, when you could hire the top three above to do a party for $50, when Gene Farris and DJ Rush were Disco/edit fiends--they just don't get it! i'd certainly find it interesting to hear more about the parties with all those djs you mentioned back in the day. just because some of us may not be from chicago and have experienced those times (i'm from the UK and would kill to have partied with those djs when they were really kickin it on home turf) doesnt mean we all 'dont get it'. i guess some of those guys have moved on (and yeh maybe theyve lost some variety) but i still think they bring something to the table and can be the trigger for younger heads to get into the scene. ive been diggin house for 7 ish years now and in the beginning it was through getting down to djs like like sneak and d.c. that i made the link to so much other good, deep shit. we've all gotta start somewhere and people move on, for better or worse - i just still think those guys deserve some credit ( from more people on this board ) for what they bring now. damn, i just wish i'd have been there when it was really happening though!

Peace

David </font>[/QUOTE]Hey--I started off with Hip House so I can relate with having an entry point. The thing is that I had humility about my beginnings and learned a lot about the history(I'm still learning--that's how it should be). A lot of these newbie house people act like house didn't start til '98(or whenever they got into the game) and have a very arrogant, yet clueless attitude about the music(not saying there aren't a lot of arrogant old schoolers as well). To know where we're going we've got to know where we've been!!! When I see a genuine interest and love for the music in someone I try to nurture them and help them out. When I see a Know-it-all, I just laugh at them and don't waste my time.

I'll just say I'm kind of 2nd generation in house. I never saw Ronnie, or Frankie(back in the day). I did see, hire , and play with Derrick, Mark, Diz, Sneak, Gene Ferris, Traxx, Lego, Justin Long, Rush, and others. I know how they sounded then and now. There was one time when our styles were all similar. That is not the case now. I'm still cool with all these people but besides a choice few, I'm really not into what they play any more. Doesn't mean I don't respect them. It's just that musically we have grown apart! graemlins/respekt.gif

[big d]

just to clarify, i typed that post when i was pretty shattered (after driving back from partying the night before to the sounds of danny wang !! graemlins/all_coholic.gif ) and what i was meaning was that i think those guys should get more credit from some on this board for what they still bring to the game. but i totally respect the points raised, i just dig diz, derrick, mark etc when i hear them now anwyays, and i'm sure i'd dig out they used to spin - perhaps more, ive certainly heard some older mixes that are totally slammin

Peace

David

[Siesta]

im 35, so i hope im still not considered a newbie. look at how this whole discussion started. woody was excited about farina coming to his town. if he had posted about lil' louie vega instead, none of this would have started. the thing that bugs me about this board, is that people seem to go round and round about the same 20 dj's. its nice to see people talking about someone else for a change. everything was better "back in the day", but those days are gone, so we gotta keep movin'. otherwise we might as well sit at home and bitch at each other on message boards.

[Woody Rosen]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by whyteout:
Dawg you may as well give up--you can't rationalize with people that don't know the difference. We were there so we know about--when Diz and Derrick played much deeper, when Mark played that funky mid-tempo shit, when Collette was still in HS coming to loft parties, when Heather was hip-hop, when Sneak opened for me at a party and used to call me for disco advice, when you could hire the top three above to do a party for $50, when Gene Farris and DJ Rush were Disco/edit fiends--they just don't get it!Knowing/experiencing the different spinning styles a Dj has gone through has much to do with how old you are and the amount of exposure you've had to the Dj's music. Oh ... then there's personal taste.
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A number of articles or threads about Kerri that I've glanced in often have people listing off certain tracks of his from specific time periods as being 'deeper,' 'raw-er (?) ... Often I've gone back to listen to these earlier "classics" by him and have liked them but not necessarily more than his newer work.
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Do people assume that to truly appreciate an artist one has to know the artist's entire discography or be familiar with more than one era of their work? How about liking what you like no matter how much or little? To me that's the adventure with music.
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I have yet to listen to a Larry Levan or Ron Hardy mix ... If and when ... okay. Do I get House music less? Er ... Ehhh ... I've only heard 3 cds and 2-3 mixes by Frankie Feliciano but you can't convince me I'm not as excited to see and hear him spin @ Sanctuary as a 'Frankiephile' would be at the news.

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I can relate to what you write about (When Djs go thru "changes" icon_rofl.gif ... )
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The beautiful thing about this music: There really is so much going on and ... we're certainly not in any danger of running out of Djs ..

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Drat! All I wanted was Woody's review of his night ... Pardons Woody ... ;)
Woody? ...

http://www.sa.sdsu.edu/cps/images/si.jpg </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/rofl.gif Im still here! I'm tryin to stay out of all the bickering. I didnt mean to start all this drama. Although that last sentence could be the theme song for this board graemlins/rofl.gif

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Originally posted by Jeff Carroll:
im 35, so i hope im still not considered a newbie. look at how this whole discussion started. woody was excited about farina coming to his town. if he had posted about lil' louie vega instead, none of this would have started. the thing that bugs me about this board, is that people seem to go round and round about the same 20 dj's. its nice to see people talking about someone else for a change. everything was better "back in the day", but those days are gone, so we gotta keep movin'. otherwise we might as well sit at home and bitch at each other on message boards. Age has nothing to do with being a newbie(and I'm not saying you are or aren't)--more to do with when you got into the game and how much exposure you've had. And i am still movin--I just don't move to the same beat!

[Moksha]

Originally posted by Jeff Carroll:
im 35, so i hope im still not considered a newbie. look at how this whole discussion started. woody was excited about farina coming to his town. if he had posted about lil' louie vega instead, none of this would have started. the thing that bugs me about this board, is that people seem to go round and round about the same 20 dj's. its nice to see people talking about someone else for a change. everything was better "back in the day", but those days are gone, so we gotta keep movin'. otherwise we might as well sit at home and bitch at each other on message boards. Bullshit. People have dissed Louie on this board, as they have done with almost every other DJ then and now.

You are either outta your mind or haven't checked the archives if you think that only 20 DJs are discussed here. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that a wider variety of DJs are discussed here than any other message board out there.

Finally, your version of "keep movin'" might not be the same as everybody else's. Obviously, it is not Albert's.

[gabriel]

that's funny b/c i was going to give that same post a big fat WORD UP

[And]

Originally posted by Woody Rosen:
[/qb] graemlins/rofl.gif Im still here! I'm tryin to stay out of all the bickering. I didnt mean to start all this drama. Although that last sentence could be the theme song for this board graemlins/rofl.gif [/QB]W-O-O-D-Y!

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what drama?
Glad you had fun ... Will be looking forward to reading your next review of Mark Farina ..

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Back to listening to a mix by John Mateo from 6.23/2002 .. Heh, heh ...

[And]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
that's funny b/c i was going to give that same post a big fat WORD UP I read you.

[john]

The very little I heard from DC I think he´s very funky in his musical selection. Good dance music.
the type of shit you end up with strange quirky spasticus moves after 5 hours.. smile.gif

[john]

btw: where can one hear more of these cats??
any sites with streaming audio??

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by john:
btw: where can one hear more of these cats??
any sites with streaming audio?? hear more of who?

[john]

I thought this thread was bout mark farina and derrick carter??

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by john:
I thought this thread was bout mark farina and derrick carter?? oh sorry.
www.undergroundhouse.net (http://www.undergroundhouse.net)

i believe there are a few older mixes by Derrick right here on THIS site. i'm not quite sure about Mark though. ;)

[gabriel]

can you search them out for us?
and link
us
we like
to be spoon
fed

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by aLie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by john:
I thought this thread was bout mark farina and derrick carter?? oh sorry.
www.undergroundhouse.net (http://www.undergroundhouse.net)

i believe there are a few older mixes by Derrick right here on THIS site. i'm not quite sure about Mark though. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[gabriel]

nevermind i got it

derrick carter- underground house music 1995
download: http://deephousepage.com/mixes12a.htm
steam: http://deephousepage.com/carter1.ram

there are assloads of mark farina mixes out there
here is another recent one
http://www.maximumrotation.com/listen_radio_show.asp?id=311
i haven't listened to it yet so i cannot comment. also sets on clubsandwich, paxahau.com, novaplanet...

[karma]

I've been going to clubs ,lofts, raves since 84 in chicago and Mark farina is one of the only djs that never dissapoints me . graemlins/acclaim.gif

[manfred]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
nevermind i got it

derrick carter- underground house music 1995
download: http://deephousepage.com/mixes12a.htm
steam: http://deephousepage.com/carter1.ram

there are assloads of mark farina mixes out there
here is another recent one
http://www.maximumrotation.com/listen_radio_show.asp?id=311
i haven't listened to it yet so i cannot comment. also sets on clubsandwich, paxahau.com, novaplanet... that '95 dc mix is tight. is there a recent one out there that we could compare it to?

[ October 06, 2003, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: manfred ]

[gabriel]

i just went to paxahau.com and found one from 2000

go to archive and scroll to 11-25-00

have no idea what this set sounds like
his essential mix is good if you can find that

[ October 06, 2003, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: gabrielloveshouse ]

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Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by aLie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by john:
I thought this thread was bout mark farina and derrick carter?? oh sorry.
www.undergroundhouse.net (http://www.undergroundhouse.net)

i believe there are a few older mixes by Derrick right here on THIS site. i'm not quite sure about Mark though. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz </font>[/QUOTE]ditto.

[Pete Nice]

to all sides involved.... get over IT!

oh yeah,
p.s.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! graemlins/all_coholic.gif

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Originally posted by square root:
to all sides involved.... get over IT!

oh yeah,
p.s.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! graemlins/all_coholic.gif Drunk ass!

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Yo Pete! Check your email, beeotch.

[Pete Nice]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
Yo Pete! Check your email, beeotch. i'm on it dano!

[Pete Nice]

what am i lookin' for dano?

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Originally posted by square root:
what am i lookin' for dano? A friendster invite you, twat. Now look harder or just go to friendster.com and create yo mutha fuggen shit.

[Pete Nice]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by square root:
what am i lookin' for dano? A friendster invite you, twat. Now look harder or just go to friendster.com and create yo mutha fuggen shit. </font>[/QUOTE]not you too stimpy! everyone is trying to get me into this nu school cult :eek: nothing in the email.... can't remember what i was going to say graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[Ben.]

my 2 pence...

well I'm not exactly new at this, and I still appreciate a lot of different kinds of house...

I got into house around 89 or so when I was a little kid, stuff like marrs "pump up the volume" and "theme from s express" was in the UK pop charts and it got me hooked and I started to dig a little deeper and began to buy records, I didn't look old enough to get into clubs until around 94' and we started going to places like back to basics & hard times in leeds a lot. basics always booked derrick a lot (they still do) and I'd say his exposure there is probably the reason he's now quite big here in the Uk. at the same time we would regularly be seeing people like maw, kenny carpenter, roger s, blake baxter, todd terry, ashley beedle etc, etc...

now I always preferred house with big chunky beats, I loved todd terrys earlier stuff and I bought a lot of stuff on relief & cajual and that was really what I was into, then towards the end of the 90's I started listening to a lot of french stuff and I think it was after buying a dj deep mix cd that I started getting into the more soulful side of things and buying stuff like blaze, maw, kerri chandler, kenny bobien, joey negro, basement boys etc... to be honest all the vocals got a bit too much for me and I started getting back into more instrumental stuff; glenn underground and kevin yost then rasoul, which led me on to all the stuff that was happening on the west coast and also back to the dubbier, harder edged chicago jocks like DLC, Diz & Farina.

anyway, my point is that I can't stand Jokenfold, tiesto, etc as much as any other house head, I really hate progressive, trance and all that souless junk with a passion. To class Farina & DLC as that sort of shit is just plain wrong. those guys never sold out, they still feel what they play 100%. people just liked what they did and it got popular, not the other way round. they might be able to command big dj fees due to their reputations but they've worked hard, have the skills and deserve everything they get imo...

[big d]

anyway, my point is that I can't stand Jokenfold, tiesto, etc as much as any other house head, I really hate progressive, trance and all that souless junk with a passion. To class Farina & DLC as that sort of shit is just plain wrong. those guys never sold out, they still feel what they play 100%. people just liked what they did and it got popular, not the other way round. they might be able to command big dj fees due to their reputations but they've worked hard, have the skills and deserve everything they get imo... sorry to drag this on, but it just seems that.. to people who are into this music but not living in chi, and yeh maybe newbies compared to some of you guys, we don’t make seem to see these artists/djs as selling out the way the guys who maybe grew up listening/playing with them did....so I gotta agree with what ben says, because these jocks like diz or mark still seem to be totally passionate about what they do, unlike your oakenfold types who have just tapped into the most popular lowest common denominator *hit around – 100% for the $$$.. I personally can enjoy getting down to everyone from timmy regisford to theo parrish to mark farina to dj bone etc etc (justa few of the people I like who folks will probably know…) .. I know these guys like diz and derrick mightn’t play as deep as they used to, but as ben says, it is ridiculous that sometimes they get put in the same boat as the progressive or even trance ****ers who feed the bullshit to the masses.. maybe its just a chicago thing.. is it that these djs have priced themselves out of playing with/for their original peer group? Don’t they still have the deepness to rock a party for the heads? Or is it that the guys who were down with them before their success don’t want to party with them no more? I’m genuinely interested!! Because so many new york/new jersey djs sold their asses (still do) out in a big way playing over here but still manage to play deep sets for ‘the heads’ on home turf.. ive paid up to £17 to hear tony Humphries play in england and been totally disappointed with what seemed like him pandering to the big club crowd, playing a pretty wack, not particularly soulful set! Then ive heard him a few times at his nuttz residency in nyc a few years back when I paid like five bucks and he held it down for (what seemed to me like) his real crowd.. so its like, you can have the two, and I wonder how much jealousy comes into play when people get on the backs of these guys… I guess people might not like the direction they’ve gone in, but who wouldn’t want to be in their shoes, how differently would anyone else have played the game? And to these ears, when I hear them play, the set might not be as varied as some – but I can still feel the legacy of the early Chicago house and disco scene coming through..

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by Woody Rosen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Woody Rosen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
Hi Gabriel ... :D

Oh yeah .. I'd still like to read what Woody thought of Mark's set .. it was incredible. he ended up playing a 3 and a half hour set. the place was packed and EVERYONE was movin, which doesnt happen too often down here. and we got to hear him play Adonis "no way back" which is never bad. i mean, some of yall might not think he's all that, but here in dallas, texas we are happy to get whatever we can, which lately hasnt been too bad.

bottom line, he rocked it for me and everybody else that i talked to. </font>[/QUOTE]Cool ... Mark tends to generate that everyone moving vibe quite well. Even times I've heard him knowing I didn't feel his set as much as others, I've always been impressed by how he engaged the crowd.
Anything else stand out for you about the set/night? </font>[/QUOTE]well to me it seemed like he wasn't doing anything TOO technical. he was promoting his new album of original material, and seemed to be really focusing a lot on his new tracks that he put out. he was also a really down to earth person. he took time after his set was done to chill with people outside the club and just talk about shit. another cool thing was he closed his set with some dialogue from the old tv show "dallas" i was kinda dissapointed because i was sure he was going to use it do fade into some acid jazz, but it was still great.

im sure that living in chicago, ny, jersey etc. you would be used to higher caliber djs than this on a daily basis. so i can understand that it might sound kinda dumb for some kid out of dallas to be goin on and on about this guy. we may not get a whole lot, but we appreciate the quality djs that do come through town. </font>[/QUOTE]woody, check out a guy called mystic bill that play's on wed i believe in dallas i can find out more if you wish.

c-

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Originally posted by DRH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />anyway, my point is that I can't stand Jokenfold, tiesto, etc as much as any other house head, I really hate progressive, trance and all that souless junk with a passion. To class Farina & DLC as that sort of shit is just plain wrong. those guys never sold out, they still feel what they play 100%. people just liked what they did and it got popular, not the other way round. they might be able to command big dj fees due to their reputations but they've worked hard, have the skills and deserve everything they get imo... sorry to drag this on, but it just seems that.. to people who are into this music but not living in chi, and yeh maybe newbies compared to some of you guys, we don’t make seem to see these artists/djs as selling out the way the guys who maybe grew up listening/playing with them did....so I gotta agree with what ben says, because these jocks like diz or mark still seem to be totally passionate about what they do, unlike your oakenfold types who have just tapped into the most popular lowest common denominator *hit around – 100% for the $$$.. I personally can enjoy getting down to everyone from timmy regisford to theo parrish to mark farina to dj bone etc etc (justa few of the people I like who folks will probably know…) .. I know these guys like diz and derrick mightn’t play as deep as they used to, but as ben says, it is ridiculous that sometimes they get put in the same boat as the progressive or even trance ****ers who feed the bullshit to the masses.. maybe its just a chicago thing.. is it that these djs have priced themselves out of playing with/for their original peer group? Don’t they still have the deepness to rock a party for the heads? Or is it that the guys who were down with them before their success don’t want to party with them no more? I’m genuinely interested!! Because so many new york/new jersey djs sold their asses (still do) out in a big way playing over here but still manage to play deep sets for ‘the heads’ on home turf.. ive paid up to £17 to hear tony Humphries play in england and been totally disappointed with what seemed like him pandering to the big club crowd, playing a pretty wack, not particularly soulful set! Then ive heard him a few times at his nuttz residency in nyc a few years back when I paid like five bucks and he held it down for (what seemed to me like) his real crowd.. so its like, you can have the two, and I wonder how much jealousy comes into play when people get on the backs of these guys… I guess people might not like the direction they’ve gone in, but who wouldn’t want to be in their shoes, how differently would anyone else have played the game? And to these ears, when I hear them play, the set might not be as varied as some – but I can still feel the legacy of the early Chicago house and disco scene coming through.. </font>[/QUOTE]Last one & I'm done--the crowd of the whole Derrick, Diz, Mark crew is totally different than what it was back then(90-95). Most of these cats weren't on the scene--many were still in High School or even grade school then. The bulk of their fan base is either very young(21-25) or they discovered house later in life! They don't have anything to reference their current formats against. That's how those 3 have played since they got into house. There aren't many "real heads" that come out to see them when they're here. Some of these youngsters think they are but that's a whole different argument! I'm not hating on them for making money--shit I don't even hate on Oakey for it--if you're peddling s h i t and you have buyers then sell it. One problem is that we have a different idea of what soulful music is. I consider a lot of that music(whatever you call it--tech-house, chicago house, etc) monotonous drivel that doesn't go any where. Understand--I have no jealousy for them--I consider them my friends--I'm glad for their success. I could have went that route but I didn't like the direction that their sound was going so I went my own way. I have the freedom of not relying on music to pay my bills and I still have my own crib and a decent lifestyle. I didn't compromise my musical taste. Whether or not they did--that's for them to answer.

[icon]

Originally posted by whyteout:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DRH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />anyway, my point is that I can't stand Jokenfold, tiesto, etc as much as any other house head, I really hate progressive, trance and all that souless junk with a passion. To class Farina & DLC as that sort of shit is just plain wrong. those guys never sold out, they still feel what they play 100%. people just liked what they did and it got popular, not the other way round. they might be able to command big dj fees due to their reputations but they've worked hard, have the skills and deserve everything they get imo... sorry to drag this on, but it just seems that.. to people who are into this music but not living in chi, and yeh maybe newbies compared to some of you guys, we don’t make seem to see these artists/djs as selling out the way the guys who maybe grew up listening/playing with them did....so I gotta agree with what ben says, because these jocks like diz or mark still seem to be totally passionate about what they do, unlike your oakenfold types who have just tapped into the most popular lowest common denominator *hit around – 100% for the $$$.. I personally can enjoy getting down to everyone from timmy regisford to theo parrish to mark farina to dj bone etc etc (justa few of the people I like who folks will probably know…) .. I know these guys like diz and derrick mightn’t play as deep as they used to, but as ben says, it is ridiculous that sometimes they get put in the same boat as the progressive or even trance ****ers who feed the bullshit to the masses.. maybe its just a chicago thing.. is it that these djs have priced themselves out of playing with/for their original peer group? Don’t they still have the deepness to rock a party for the heads? Or is it that the guys who were down with them before their success don’t want to party with them no more? I’m genuinely interested!! Because so many new york/new jersey djs sold their asses (still do) out in a big way playing over here but still manage to play deep sets for ‘the heads’ on home turf.. ive paid up to £17 to hear tony Humphries play in england and been totally disappointed with what seemed like him pandering to the big club crowd, playing a pretty wack, not particularly soulful set! Then ive heard him a few times at his nuttz residency in nyc a few years back when I paid like five bucks and he held it down for (what seemed to me like) his real crowd.. so its like, you can have the two, and I wonder how much jealousy comes into play when people get on the backs of these guys… I guess people might not like the direction they’ve gone in, but who wouldn’t want to be in their shoes, how differently would anyone else have played the game? And to these ears, when I hear them play, the set might not be as varied as some – but I can still feel the legacy of the early Chicago house and disco scene coming through.. </font>[/QUOTE]Last one & I'm done--the crowd of the whole Derrick, Diz, Mark crew is totally different than what it was back then(90-95). Most of these cats weren't on the scene--many were still in High School or even grade school then. The bulk of their fan base is either very young(21-25) or they discovered house later in life! They don't have anything to reference their current formats against. That's how those 3 have played since they got into house. There aren't many "real heads" that come out to see them when they're here. Some of these youngsters think they are but that's a whole different argument! I'm not hating on them for making money--shit I don't even hate on Oakey for it--if you're peddling s h i t and you have buyers then sell it. One problem is that we have a different idea of what soulful music is. I consider a lot of that music(whatever you call it--tech-house, chicago house, etc) monotonous drivel that doesn't go any where. Understand--I have no jealousy for them--I consider them my friends--I'm glad for their success. I could have went that route but I didn't like the direction that their sound was going so I went my own way. I have the freedom of not relying on music to pay my bills and I still have my own crib and a decent lifestyle. I didn't compromise my musical taste. Whether or not they did--that's for them to answer. </font>[/QUOTE]Whyteout, you're still Hip House. I saw you diggin' in the dollar bins looking for "Dope House is in Command" the otha day.

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Originally posted by icon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by whyteout:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DRH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />anyway, my point is that I can't stand Jokenfold, tiesto, etc as much as any other house head, I really hate progressive, trance and all that souless junk with a passion. To class Farina & DLC as that sort of shit is just plain wrong. those guys never sold out, they still feel what they play 100%. people just liked what they did and it got popular, not the other way round. they might be able to command big dj fees due to their reputations but they've worked hard, have the skills and deserve everything they get imo... sorry to drag this on, but it just seems that.. to people who are into this music but not living in chi, and yeh maybe newbies compared to some of you guys, we don’t make seem to see these artists/djs as selling out the way the guys who maybe grew up listening/playing with them did....so I gotta agree with what ben says, because these jocks like diz or mark still seem to be totally passionate about what they do, unlike your oakenfold types who have just tapped into the most popular lowest common denominator *hit around – 100% for the $$$.. I personally can enjoy getting down to everyone from timmy regisford to theo parrish to mark farina to dj bone etc etc (justa few of the people I like who folks will probably know…) .. I know these guys like diz and derrick mightn’t play as deep as they used to, but as ben says, it is ridiculous that sometimes they get put in the same boat as the progressive or even trance ****ers who feed the bullshit to the masses.. maybe its just a chicago thing.. is it that these djs have priced themselves out of playing with/for their original peer group? Don’t they still have the deepness to rock a party for the heads? Or is it that the guys who were down with them before their success don’t want to party with them no more? I’m genuinely interested!! Because so many new york/new jersey djs sold their asses (still do) out in a big way playing over here but still manage to play deep sets for ‘the heads’ on home turf.. ive paid up to £17 to hear tony Humphries play in england and been totally disappointed with what seemed like him pandering to the big club crowd, playing a pretty wack, not particularly soulful set! Then ive heard him a few times at his nuttz residency in nyc a few years back when I paid like five bucks and he held it down for (what seemed to me like) his real crowd.. so its like, you can have the two, and I wonder how much jealousy comes into play when people get on the backs of these guys… I guess people might not like the direction they’ve gone in, but who wouldn’t want to be in their shoes, how differently would anyone else have played the game? And to these ears, when I hear them play, the set might not be as varied as some – but I can still feel the legacy of the early Chicago house and disco scene coming through.. </font>[/QUOTE]Last one & I'm done--the crowd of the whole Derrick, Diz, Mark crew is totally different than what it was back then(90-95). Most of these cats weren't on the scene--many were still in High School or even grade school then. The bulk of their fan base is either very young(21-25) or they discovered house later in life! They don't have anything to reference their current formats against. That's how those 3 have played since they got into house. There aren't many "real heads" that come out to see them when they're here. Some of these youngsters think they are but that's a whole different argument! I'm not hating on them for making money--shit I don't even hate on Oakey for it--if you're peddling s h i t and you have buyers then sell it. One problem is that we have a different idea of what soulful music is. I consider a lot of that music(whatever you call it--tech-house, chicago house, etc) monotonous drivel that doesn't go any where. Understand--I have no jealousy for them--I consider them my friends--I'm glad for their success. I could have went that route but I didn't like the direction that their sound was going so I went my own way. I have the freedom of not relying on music to pay my bills and I still have my own crib and a decent lifestyle. I didn't compromise my musical taste. Whether or not they did--that's for them to answer. </font>[/QUOTE]Whyteout, you're still Hip House. I saw you diggin' in the dollar bins looking for "Dope House is in Command" the otha day. </font>[/QUOTE]Who picked up your rock and let you crawl out graemlins/rofl.gif What's up Luke? When are you moving up here? Hope you have a big U haul for all those crates--SHEESH!!! hail.gif

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

BTW--Catfish...Makes my nature rise!

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

And actually I was looking for "KRS-Who??? He ain't nobody!"

[icon]

Yo I sold all my records and became a tax attorney. Hehehehehehe!
I think I moved to Chicago last year, but it still remarkably looks like Dallas.
What's up with you? I see you're still waging the Deep House War. smile.gif
We need to get you down here again - maybe for a little disco jammy.

[icon]

Originally posted by whyteout:
And actually I was looking for "KRS-Who??? He ain't nobody!" Whatever happened to Kool Rock? I heard he passed away.

[ October 10, 2003, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: icon ]

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Originally posted by icon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by whyteout:
And actually I was looking for "KRS-Who??? He ain't nobody!" Whatever happened to Kool Rock? I heard he passed away. </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah--that's the word. As far as another party--say the word!

[DOTSmusic]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Christopher L. Aquilo:
woody, check out a guy called mystic bill that play's on wed i believe in dallas i can find out more if you wish.

c-

yeah, Billy (DHP name: HPS) is an excellent dj,
and is a really cool individual also.

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[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Icon(above) is a bad mutha too and he's in Dallas as well--for now!