to all the r kelly haters...

[djmarkbethemechanic]

i just found out the partculars of roman polanskis conviction.....i was younger and only knew he committed a sex crime against a minor...

the reality is that he DRUGGED a 13 year old girl and then ****ED HER UP THE ASS....and while those maggots at the Oscars praised him they had the nerve to boo M Moore


un****ingbelievable

(i hope kenspank doesn't attempt to justify this too!)

[Bill Blake]

YEs once I found out about this, I made a pact to NEVER watch his shit.

Also, the oscars pissed me off. Standing ovation by the audience (women for christ sake) for a convicted/confessed rapist.

Sickning

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

These are the same people that give Michael Jackson hell and he hasn't admitted to anything. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

[liL Ray]

But when we talk about the double standards for Black icons vs. White icons, we are making it up or we are just being paranoid.

...go figure.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
But when we talk about the double standards for Black icons vs. White icons, we are making it up or we are just being paranoid.

...go figure. Well R Kelly's album did recently make number one.

Plus 'within the black community' there seems to be a similar level of support for him on a scale perhaps even bigger than Polanski.

In general it may be true but I would see R Kelly doing pretty well considering the MAIN difference being #1 he has not confessed or been convicted AND Polanski's RAPE was not given the same amount of attention (but this could be because he doesnt have pop star status like Kelly).

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
[considering the MAIN difference being #1 he has not confessed or been convicted AND Polanski's RAPE was not given the same amount of attention (but this could be because he doesnt have pop star status like Kelly). [/QB]I don't feel this is a true anology, at the the time it received considerable press - given, the press was also a different press at that time....

[D J 1 3 8]

Say what you want, but I think "Chinatown" is one of the greatest American movies ever made.

Speaking of pedophiles, I would also say "Off The Wall" is one of the greatest pop albums ever made.

Nevertheless, there is clearly a double standard when it comes to black celebrities VS white.

[ March 27, 2003, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: DJ 138 ]

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
[considering the MAIN difference being #1 he has not confessed or been convicted AND Polanski's RAPE was not given the same amount of attention (but this could be because he doesnt have pop star status like Kelly). I don't feel this is a true anology, at the the time it received considerable press - given, the press was also a different press at that time.... [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Polanski was already an award winning writer/director at that point. He was big business in Hollywood. He could be considered a sort of icon at the time of the conviction, IMO.

[ March 27, 2003, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Bold Soul ]

[flypitcher]

both of them are still nonces though.

Hang the 2 of them.

[The Donger]

my friend manages this hip-hop group that just finished recording the funniest song ever about R. Kelly. Even though he knows Flex very well and hooks him up with tons of promos of bigger groups, I still doubt it will hit the airwaves...

[Nicholas]

People let it slide because Charles Manson murdered his wife and her friends.

He's married to Emmanuelle Seigner. jesus wept!

[Wild i]

Originally posted by djmarkbethemechanic:
i just found out the partculars of roman polanskis conviction.....i was younger and only knew he committed a sex crime against a minor...

the reality is that he DRUGGED a 13 year old girl and then ****ED HER UP THE ASS....and while those maggots at the Oscars praised him they had the nerve to boo M Moore


un****ingbelievable

(i hope kenspank doesn't attempt to justify this too!) You got a link to the real deal? I'd like to read about it. I was never up on the details.

[JR JAM]

Originally posted by Wild i:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by djmarkbethemechanic:
i just found out the partculars of roman polanskis conviction.....i was younger and only knew he committed a sex crime against a minor...

the reality is that he DRUGGED a 13 year old girl and then ****ED HER UP THE ASS....and while those maggots at the Oscars praised him they had the nerve to boo M Moore

un****ingbelievable

(i hope kenspank doesn't attempt to justify this too!) You got a link to the real deal? I'd like to read about it. I was never up on the details. </font>[/QUOTE]Roman Polanski rape charges (http://www.vachss.com/mission/roman_polanski.html)
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In whose Hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.

[MarkK]

These two older articles are interesting.

One parallel...the parents of the girls
Deal Will End Roman Holiday for Polanski

By Michelle Caruso in Los Angeles and Helen Kennedy in New York
Originally published in the Daily News (New York), October 1, 1997


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Twenty years after he fled to Europe to escape punishment for raping a 13-year-old girl, fugitive director Roman Polanski will surrender in Los Angeles, sources confirmed yesterday.

Under a deal worked out in two secret meetings between the judge and Polanski's lawyer, the 63-year-old director won't serve any time in jail, sources said.

Samantha Geimer, who lives in Hawaii with her husband and three sons, went public in March to say she forgave Polanski for drugging her and raping her when she was a starstruck kid. She told London's Mail on Sunday that he should be pardoned. It was not immediately clear when Polanski, director of "Chinatown," "Rosemary's Baby," and "Frantic" might return to Los Angeles.

Since he left Hollywood, his once-bright career has dimmed. He hasn't had a hit since 1979's "Tess," which was shot in France instead of England because he feared being extradited by the British.

The Polish director, whose mother died in a Nazi concentration camp, has had a life as violent as his movies. His 8-months pregnant wife, actress Sharon Tate, was murdered by the Manson cult in 1969.

Polanski fled to Paris after being indicted in 1977 on six counts of drugging, raping and sodomizing Geimer, whom he lured to Jack Nicholson's empty house.

Polanski told the girl he wanted to photograph her for Vogue, but instead gave her Quaaludes and champagne and took her to bed. He maintained she was a Lolita who knew all about sex and drugs.

Facing up to 50 years in prison if convicted at trial, Polanski pleaded guilty to one count of statutory rape. The other five counts were dismissed.

Polanski spent 90 days under psychiatric observation. But just before sentencing, facing a possible 50 years in jail, he jumped bail.

The original judge on the case, Superior Court Judge Laurence Rittenband, died several years ago and the case was reassigned to Superior Court Judge Larry Fidler.

In December, Polanski's lawyer, Douglas Dalton, 69, began meeting with Fidler and Deputy District Attorney Roger Gunson.

But under the law, the judge has final say on penalties.


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Paris Still Home to Polanski

By Bruce Kirkland
Originally published in The Toronto Sun, March 8, 2000


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Despite a flurry of new rumours, Roman Polanski says he has no plans to try to return to the United States, which he fled 22 years ago after being convicted of "unlawful sexual intercourse" with a 13-year-old girl he was photographing.

"I don't know if it's resignation or a lack of interest or a fear of the media circus that would happen," Polanski said in a telephone interview from Paris. The rumour mills are just speculation, he says. "Every now and again they propose the notion that I am doing something about it. Then there is a new round of articles about my possible return. There's nothing!"

Polanski left the U.S. in February, 1978, after serving 42 days in jail for psychiatric evaluation prior to final sentencing. He had plea-bargained and pleaded guilty to the least of six charges against him in the case. Reports that the judge was going to put him away for years inspired his flight. The girl is now a housewife in Hawaii and has never been identified.

[Balactus]

How can this guy get his films made?
who would work with someone like that? it's just ****ing sick
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