The Chicago Scene. Thinking "Out of the box"

[Terry James]

Which Chicago suburb do you think would be conducive to a house venue to augment the struggling scene here in Chicago?

Location is a strong consideration as well as the communities tolerance in letting urban party goers invade their territory.

Obviously it would have to be a predominately black 'burb for race reasons. The police and city officials would have to be tolerant as well.

A few that come to mind are:
1.Dolton
2.Maywood
3.Riverdale
4.Phoenix

Not many to choose from. But house may need a new home away from the city.

[ July 21, 2003, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Terry J ]

[DJJM3.COM]

Harvey
Homewood
Chicago Heights
Calumet City
Dixmoor
Lansing

These are predominantly Black......

I always thought the 'Burbs would be a good breeding ground.......

[richierich]

interesting!!

[Terry James]

Originally posted by DJJM3:
Harvey
Homewood
Chicago Heights
Calumet City
Dixmoor
Lansing

These are predominantly Black......

I always thought the 'Burbs would be a good breeding ground....... Dixmoor...Hmmmmmmmm

[manfred]

harvey? it's the wild wild west when it comes to the police down there... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by manfred:
harvey? it's the wild wild west when it comes to the police down there... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif Greetings manfred:

??

Usually there is a community division at most police stations....perhaps establishing a rapport with them would be helpful. This is not to say that you haven't. It is just a thought. I have done this myself with the PD/FD....also because I do community work anyway, it all falls into place.

d

[Terry James]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by manfred:
harvey? it's the wild wild west when it comes to the police down there... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif Greetings manfred:

??

Usually there is a community division at most police stations....perhaps establishing a rapport with them would be helpful. This is not to say that you haven't. It is just a thought. I have done this myself with the PD/FD....also because I do community work anyway, it all falls into place.

d </font>[/QUOTE]Good Idea! ;)

[DJJM3.COM]

Originally posted by manfred:
harvey? it's the wild wild west when it comes to the police down there... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif Sure if you are Gangbanger, Drug dealer, or a Crack Hoe.......They dont mess with decent folk.......Eric Kellogg is the mayor out there now...he is in his 30s......im sure if you talk to him he can work things. out........

[Terry James]

Originally posted by DJJM3:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by manfred:
harvey? it's the wild wild west when it comes to the police down there... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif Sure if you are Gangbanger, Drug dealer, or a Crack Hoe.......They dont mess with decent folk.......Eric Kellogg is the mayor out there now...he is in his 30s......im sure if you talk to him he can work things. out........ </font>[/QUOTE]You might be on to something JM3

[DJJM3.COM]

I wanted to do something @ Club Blue/Harvey (The former 50 yardline). Nice spot, but the management(same folks own it, but changed the name) over priced the joint and no one wants to rent it out so its a ghost town and its closes @ 1am when it can stay open till 4am.........

JMJ would be a good resource...he used to do all the suburban parties back in the day out south......

[ July 21, 2003, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: DJJM3 ]

[Chicago Skyway Music]

During high school, I use to do a lot of parties in Maywood (I went to school at Proviso West and we lived in Melrose Park for a minute).

You might also consider Bellwood. It's predomintly black & mexican suburb. I've done parties there as well and the responce to house music (back in the late eighties early ninties) was really good.

Great Idea by the way. There are a lot of heads out there in the suburbs. Good Luck.

-Sean

[Terry James]

Originally posted by Sean Hernandez:
During high school, I use to do a lot of parties in Maywood (I went to school at Proviso West and we lived in Melrose Park for a minute).

You might also consider Bellwood. It's predomintly black & mexican suburb. I've done parties there as well and the responce to house music (back in the late eighties early ninties) was really good.

Great Idea by the way. There are a lot of heads out there in the suburbs. Good Luck.

-Sean wasn't Divinchees sp??? located in that area?

[imported_Gman]

Whats the deal with South Holland where my brother lives ?

[Terry James]

Originally posted by Gman:
Whats the deal with South Holland where my brother lives ? G,

I don't know if it would fly there. Great location but the people and officials may not go for it. I can't think of any known venues that currently exist in SH

[Terry James]

[ July 21, 2003, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: Terry J ]

[Jamie 3:26]

Man,SH don't even sell liquor.It ain't happn' captn'.

The best bet is Someplace between 127th and 159th.Maybe Markham.

[Terry James]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Man,SH don't even sell liquor.It ain't happn' captn'.

The best bet is Someplace between 127th and 159th.Maybe Markham. Ahhhhhhh they been letting them roll with that skating rink for a minute

[däp]

Markham or Cal City.

[eric williams]

I was born in Harvey and raised in Robbins. My father owns a spot called Manny's Blue Room. One things that you have to consider is people might support the music if it is too unfamliar to them. Also folks might not come from the city because it is too far. You have a lot more freedom in the suburbs but the support might not be there. I started doing events in Harvey in 1984, but things have changed. Quality dance music is not that present out there. Do some market testing before you try it. Peace

[JMJ]

Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
Whats the deal with South Holland where my brother lives ? G,

I don't know if it would fly there. Great location but the people and officials may not go for it. I can't think of any known venues that currently exist in SH </font>[/QUOTE]South Holland is a DRY town. I lived there for almost twenty years (imagine that!). No liquor stores or bars allowed. Forget about a club there. Forget about Lansing too.....JMJ

[JMJ]

Originally posted by DJJM3:
I wanted to do something @ Club Blue/Harvey (The former 50 yardline). Nice spot, but the management(same folks own it, but changed the name) over priced the joint and no one wants to rent it out so its a ghost town and its closes @ 1am when it can stay open till 4am.........

JMJ would be a good resource...he used to do all the suburban parties back in the day out south...... You are correct, JM3. I lived and played out there for a long time. The biggest problem would be getting people to come down from the city. It's always been that way, although I wouldn't consider that a problem, because there's still plenty of people into the music out that way, plus you have to consider all the people that have moved south from Chicago in the last 15 years. Harvey, Dolton, or Cal City would be your best bet due to their close proximity to Chicago. Stay away from Dixmoor.....JMJ

[Discogoddess]

Originally posted by eric williams:
I was born in Harvey and raised in Robbins. My father owns a spot called Manny's Blue Room. One things that you have to consider is people might support the music if it is too unfamliar to them. Also folks might not come from the city because it is too far. You have a lot more freedom in the suburbs but the support might not be there. I started doing events in Harvey in 1984, but things have changed. Quality dance music is not that present out there. Do some market testing before you try it. Peace OMG!!! You must be related to my husband's family in some way...they are all up and through Robbins...and have celebrated many, many an occasion @ your father's club. smile.gif

[DJJM3.COM]

If you want to do a "ground up" thing there is a Bar that used to be on Dolton Av/ State Road right off the Bishop/Ford Expy (90/94). Was called Dom Pierres. Its kinda small but stating out it could be pretty nice......

Also I have a few more suggestions.....

Terry PM me your info........

[Terry James]

Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
Whats the deal with South Holland where my brother lives ? G,

I don't know if it would fly there. Great location but the people and officials may not go for it. I can't think of any known venues that currently exist in SH </font>[/QUOTE]South Holland is a DRY town. I lived there for almost twenty years (imagine that!). No liquor stores or bars allowed. Forget about a club there. Forget about Lansing too.....JMJ </font>[/QUOTE]Lansing has the spot inside of Pepes. I know they promote some house nights, not sure who's palys there. Nice little dance floor and plenty of people on certain nights.

[JMJ]

Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
Whats the deal with South Holland where my brother lives ? G,

I don't know if it would fly there. Great location but the people and officials may not go for it. I can't think of any known venues that currently exist in SH </font>[/QUOTE]South Holland is a DRY town. I lived there for almost twenty years (imagine that!). No liquor stores or bars allowed. Forget about a club there. Forget about Lansing too.....JMJ </font>[/QUOTE]Lansing has the spot inside of Pepes. I know they promote some house nights, not sure who's palys there. Nice little dance floor and plenty of people on certain nights. </font>[/QUOTE]If you're talking about the Pepe's on River Oaks Drive (162nd/Rt.6), that's actually Cal City. There's no Pepe's in Lansing that I know of. Forget about Lansing too. New liquor licenses are unavailable....JMJ

[ July 22, 2003, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: JMJ ]

[Terry James]

Originally posted by JMJ:
[/qb]If you're talking about the Pepe's on River Oaks Drive (162nd/Rt.6), that's actually Cal City. There's no Pepe's in Lansing that I know of. Forget about Lansing too. New liquor licenses are unavailable....JMJ [/QB][/QUOTE]


Ok like 159th head west pass the mall. THey got something going on. Mucho muchachaas

[Ken1015]

Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sean Hernandez:
During high school, I use to do a lot of parties in Maywood (I went to school at Proviso West and we lived in Melrose Park for a minute).

You might also consider Bellwood. It's predomintly black & mexican suburb. I've done parties there as well and the responce to house music (back in the late eighties early ninties) was really good.

Great Idea by the way. There are a lot of heads out there in the suburbs. Good Luck.

-Sean wasn't Divinchees sp??? located in that area? </font>[/QUOTE]If you're referring to DaVinci Manor where many house parties were thrown in the '80s, that was located at Central and North Avenue in Chicago.

I grew up in Maywood. There are a few househeads out there. Brian Reeves briefly played at a spot in Bellwood on Mannheim Road a few years ago called Manny's, I believe.

[JMJ]

Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
If you're talking about the Pepe's on River Oaks Drive (162nd/Rt.6), that's actually Cal City. There's no Pepe's in Lansing that I know of. Forget about Lansing too. New liquor licenses are unavailable....JMJ [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Ok like 159th head west pass the mall. THey got something going on. Mucho muchachaas [/QB][/QUOTE]
Pepe's is about 3 blocks east of River Oaks in Cal City.....JMJ

[manfred]

Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by manfred:
harvey? it's the wild wild west when it comes to the police down there... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif Greetings manfred:

??

Usually there is a community division at most police stations....perhaps establishing a rapport with them would be helpful. This is not to say that you haven't. It is just a thought. I have done this myself with the PD/FD....also because I do community work anyway, it all falls into place.

d </font>[/QUOTE]Good Idea! ;) </font>[/QUOTE]through my job i've spoken to a lot of peeps who are not gangbangers/drug dealers who have had run-in's with the police down there. scary. :eek:

[DJJM3.COM]

Originally posted by manfred:
through my job i've spoken to a lot of peeps who are not gangbangers/drug dealers who have had run-in's with the police down there. scary. :eek: I'm sure that was before Kellogg got in office.........Eric addressed the police cheif his 1st week in office about brutality complaints....

[JMJ]

Originally posted by DJJM3:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by manfred:
through my job i've spoken to a lot of peeps who are not gangbangers/drug dealers who have had run-in's with the police down there. scary. :eek: I'm sure that was before Kellogg got in office.........Eric addressed the police cheif his 1st week in office about brutality complaints.... </font>[/QUOTE]Harvey and Dixmoor are VERY corrupt. It's gonna take a while for Mr. Kellogg to clean up the mess in Harvey. Forget about Dixmoor. Anything goes.....JMJ

[Terry James]

So who's ready to do some trail blazin?

[DJJM3.COM]

Originally posted by Terry J:
So who's ready to do some trail blazin? I'm down for it.......

[JMJ]

Originally posted by Terry J:
So who's ready to do some trail blazin? It would be nice to do something close to home.....JMJ ;)

[Chicago Skyway Music]

Originally posted by Ken1015:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Terry J:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sean Hernandez:
During high school, I use to do a lot of parties in Maywood (I went to school at Proviso West and we lived in Melrose Park for a minute).

You might also consider Bellwood. It's predomintly black & mexican suburb. I've done parties there as well and the responce to house music (back in the late eighties early ninties) was really good.

Great Idea by the way. There are a lot of heads out there in the suburbs.

Good Luck.

-Sean wasn't Divinchees sp??? located in that area? </font>[/QUOTE]If you're referring to DaVinci Manor where many house parties were thrown in the '80s, that was located at Central and North Avenue in Chicago.

I grew up in Maywood. There are a few househeads out there. Brian Reeves briefly played at a spot in Bellwood on Mannheim Road a few years ago called Manny's, I believe. </font>[/QUOTE]I don't recall DaVinci Manor but I do remember Manny's on Mannhiem. I use to play there around '97 or '98.

It's called Touch of The Past now.

[bigg donn a.k.a bigg donn]

In cal city there is a place called ''WHAT'S UP''.
I was telling JMJ about it some time ago. It's on about 154th and torrence. It is a good spot to hold a great party, and I know the owner, and i think i could get it at a good price!!!! Any one interested PM me. graemlins/beerchug.gif