I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THIS BEFORE BUT SO WHAT...

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Wears a burgundy French roll, 3-inch heels and a split up her thigh to
>>work and makes it look professional.
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
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>>Can wear the heck out of spandex.
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>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
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>>Can raise a doctor, a world-class athlete and an A+ student in an
>>environment deemed by society as dysfunctional, broken,
>>underprivileged and disenfranchised.
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
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>>Can heat a whole house in the winter without help from the gas company.
>>
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>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can work full time while finishing school, raising respectful and
>>intelligent children, be active in the PTA, be the pastor's secretary,
>>and the choir president and a make it all seem effortless
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can make a $1.00 out of 15 Cents
>>
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can go from the boardroom to the 'hood and "keep it real" in both
>>places.
>>
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can slap the taste out of your mouth.
>>
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can put a Black man and his non-Black date on pins and needles
>>just by walking into the room.
>>
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can live below poverty level and yet set fashion trends.
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
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>>Can fight two struggles everyday and make it look easy.
>>
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>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
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>>Can make a child happy on Christmas Day even if he didn't get a darn
>>thing.
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can be admired and fantasized about by men of other races and know
>>that when she does cross over it's done out of sincerity, not a political
>>move.
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
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>>Can be 75 years old and look 45!
>>
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>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
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>>Can make other women want to pay plastic surgeons top $$$ for physical
>>features she was already born with.
>>
>>
>>ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
>>
>>Can be the mother of civilization. :D

[ September 09, 2003, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Dee-Dee Sheridan ]

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can wear the heck out of spandex. this practice needs to stop...especially on Flatbush Ave, Bklyn, nyc where every big size, "cattle crossing" Caribbean woman feel it is their right to show us their gigantic glotuus maximus sqoosed into one of these spandex things....you caan si di spandex ah bawl out fi murdah!

[TAC]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
you caan si di spandex ah bawl out fi murdah! LAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWDDD AH MERCI....YER KILLING ME YER KILLING ME

LAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!


(in my best Trini voice) OOO GAWD...OOO GAWD...OOO...WATCH SEE BATTY SWAY BOH....

[Mocambo]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can wear the heck out of spandex. this practice needs to stop...especially on Flatbush Ave, Bklyn, nyc where every big size, "cattle crossing" Caribbean woman feel it is their right to show us their gigantic glotuus maximus sqoosed into one of these spandex things....you caan si di spandex ah bawl out fi murdah! </font>[/QUOTE]icon_rofl.gif

Dude...........you made my miserable morning bright.

[sammyrock]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can wear the heck out of spandex. this practice needs to stop...especially on Flatbush Ave, Bklyn, nyc where every big size, "cattle crossing" Caribbean woman feel it is their right to show us their gigantic glotuus maximus sqoosed into one of these spandex things....you caan si di spandex ah bawl out fi murdah! </font>[/QUOTE]LOL!!!!!!!!!!! RAY! True Dat...Dee-Dee your a trip..much love n respect. biggrinangel.gif

[Austin/Dallas]

It's seems that this " Only A Black Woman" person is lonely and needs anger managment and a stiff ___..

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Can work full time while finishing school, raising respectful and
&gt;&gt;intelligent children, be active in the PTA, be the pastor's secretary,
&gt;&gt;and the choir president and a make it all seem effortless Don't forget - She can still get to a club on Ladies Night graemlins/rofl.gif

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

graemlins/lol.gif

[Austin/Dallas]

http://64.4.18.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/pic06972.jpg?curmbox=F121469409&a=f5fff32a9b79314e5a9d9bb43cc5aa75&msg=MSG1052401489.12&start=213152&len=207507&mimepart=3&disk=64.4.18.74_d977&login=cantrellbrown&domain=hotmail%2ecom&hm___sig=ed29e7e601c373cc903b8094652f21e696fb5c9b1 de10b33

[ September 05, 2003, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: Austin/Dallas ]

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by Austin/Dallas:
http://64.4.18.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/pic06972.jpg?curmbox=F121469409&a=41b2b4b909bb16dd5ca5576c958c64c2&msg=MSG1052401489.12&start=213152&len=207507&mimepart=3&disk=64.4.18.74_d977&login=cantrellbrown&domain=hotmail%2ecom&hm___sig=96916e5e01c373c923c086816a750835b44484829 30de486 ????????

[Austin/Dallas]

I said.!!

http://64.4.18.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/pic06972.jpg?curmbox=F121469409&a=f5fff32a9b79314e5a9d9bb43cc5aa75&msg=MSG1052401489.12&start=213152&len=207507&mimepart=3&disk=64.4.18.74_d977&login=cantrellbrown&domain=hotmail%2ecom&hm___sig=ed29e7e601c373cc903b8094652f21e696fb5c9b1 de10b33

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by Austin/Dallas:
I said.!!

http://64.4.18.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/pic06972.jpg?curmbox=F121469409&a=f5fff32a9b79314e5a9d9bb43cc5aa75&msg=MSG1052401489.12&start=213152&len=207507&mimepart=3&disk=64.4.18.74_d977&login=cantrellbrown&domain=hotmail%2ecom&hm___sig=ed29e7e601c373cc903b8094652f21e696fb5c9b1 de10b33 ?????????????????????????????????????????

[2121]

exactly how can any woman who';s struggled on her own not take offense to this kind of shit.

enought is enough with black-women-this-and-black-women-that on this board - or does the daily workload afford the time to come up with this crap...please. this is not about race, its about men, guys, brothas avoiding their ****ing responsibilities and to make jokes about it or categorise it by race is downright insulting.

[2121]

and ENOUGH WITH THE FAT PICTURES PLEASE

i've seen pictures of guys on this board, besides lacking in the tact department there is plently to say for the amount of exercise yall have been getting.

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

OH MY GAWD, HERE WE GO!!!

[drilla]

Originally posted by 2121:
and ENOUGH WITH THE FAT PICTURES PLEASE

i've seen pictures of guys on this board, besides lacking in the tact department there is plently to say for the amount of exercise yall have been getting. im seriously turned on right now...sup with me and you this weekend?

hook it up, girl

[2121]

no please lets not. i said it, i stand by it, let it go. but for the love of god, someone say something about the sexist bullshit you girls let these guys get away with

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by 2121:

i've seen pictures of guys on this board, besides lacking in the tact department there is plently to say for the amount of exercise yall have been getting. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/lach.gif

[daniel]

Originally posted by 2121:
and ENOUGH WITH THE FAT PICTURES PLEASE

i've seen pictures of guys on this board, besides lacking in the tact department there is plently to say for the amount of exercise yall have been getting. hahahahahaha

fat = house

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

I can't pull up the picture...can someone re-post it?

[illiciumverum]

Originally posted by 2121:
exactly how can any woman who';s struggled on her own not take offense to this kind of shit.

enought is enough with black-women-this-and-black-women-that on this board - or does the daily workload afford the time to come up with this crap...please. this is not about race, its about men, guys, brothas avoiding their ****ing responsibilities and to make jokes about it or categorise it by race is downright insulting. so are you inferring that a white woman's experience is the same as a black woman's one? and then of course, the same as an indian woman's experience, an asian's and an hispanic's?

[drilla]

Originally posted by staranise:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 2121:
exactly how can any woman who';s struggled on her own not take offense to this kind of shit.

enought is enough with black-women-this-and-black-women-that on this board - or does the daily workload afford the time to come up with this crap...please. this is not about race, its about men, guys, brothas avoiding their ****ing responsibilities and to make jokes about it or categorise it by race is downright insulting. so are you inferring that a white woman's experience is the same as a black woman's one? and then of course, the same as an indian woman's experience, an asian's and an hispanic's? </font>[/QUOTE]yeah, that's what she was saying.

[illiciumverum]

i thought so.

[TAC]

Originally posted by 2121:
no please lets not. i said it, i stand by it, let it go. but for the love of god, someone say something about the sexist bullshit you girls let these guys get away with Check yourself. A FEMALE started the post, and thus opened the door for all else that has flowed from it.

Peace
TAC

[2121]

Originally posted by staranise:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 2121:
so are you inferring that a white woman's experience is the same as a black woman's one? and then of course, the same as an indian woman's experience, an asian's and an hispanic's? </font>[/QUOTE]if they're poor, then yes.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by 2121:
and ENOUGH WITH THE FAT PICTURES PLEASE

i've seen pictures of guys on this board, besides lacking in the tact department there is plently to say for the amount of exercise yall have been getting. Damn,what you look like?

[drilla]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 2121:
and ENOUGH WITH THE FAT PICTURES PLEASE

i've seen pictures of guys on this board, besides lacking in the tact department there is plently to say for the amount of exercise yall have been getting. Damn,what you look like? </font>[/QUOTE]hairy greek chic with pouty lips.

turns me on everytime!

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

MEOW!! IS THIS GOING TO BE A 4-8 PAGE CAT AND DOG FIGHT?! IF SO LET ME LEAVE NOW graemlins/bolt.gif

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by 2121:
exactly how can any woman who';s struggled on her own not take offense to this kind of shit.

enought is enough with black-women-this-and-black-women-that on this board - or does the daily workload afford the time to come up with this crap...please. this is not about race, its about men, guys, brothas avoiding their ****ing responsibilities and to make jokes about it or categorise it by race is downright insulting. If this thread is insulting to you, then don't post. graemlins/conf44.gif I'm sure there are plenty of other threads on this board that will suite your fancy.

[ September 05, 2003, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: Dee-Dee Sheridan ]

[(Im)poster]

Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can go from the boardroom to the 'hood
and "keep it real" in both places.
My personal favorite.

[AD]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can wear the heck out of spandex. this practice needs to stop...especially on Flatbush Ave, Bklyn, nyc where every big size, "cattle crossing" Caribbean woman feel it is their right to show us their gigantic glotuus maximus sqoosed into one of these spandex things....you caan si di spandex ah bawl out fi murdah! </font>[/QUOTE]He said "cattle crossing." hahahahahahaha!!! icon_rofl.gif

[djdub63]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can wear the heck out of spandex. this practice needs to stop...especially on Flatbush Ave, Bklyn, nyc where every big size, "cattle crossing" Caribbean woman feel it is their right to show us their gigantic glotuus maximus sqoosed into one of these spandex things....you caan si di spandex ah bawl out fi murdah! </font>[/QUOTE]He said "cattle crossing." hahahahahahaha!!! icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]http://www.redhillgeneralstore.com/pics/32639.jpg

[And]

Originally posted by djdub63:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can wear the heck out of spandex. this practice needs to stop...especially on Flatbush Ave, Bklyn, nyc where every big size, "cattle crossing" Caribbean woman feel it is their right to show us their gigantic glotuus maximus sqoosed into one of these spandex things....you caan si di spandex ah bawl out fi murdah! </font>[/QUOTE]He said "cattle crossing." hahahahahahaha!!! icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]http://www.redhillgeneralstore.com/pics/32639.jpg </font>[/QUOTE]icon_rofl.gif and graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[the 18th letter]

Originally posted by (Im)poster:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can go from the boardroom to the 'hood
and "keep it real" in both places.
My personal favorite. </font>[/QUOTE]What about those brothers in the commercials being celebrated for the other 9 to 5, do they count? biggrinangel.gif

[(Im)poster]

Originally posted by rammeh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by (Im)poster:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:

ONLY A BLACK WOMAN
Can go from the boardroom to the 'hood
and "keep it real" in both places.
My personal favorite. </font>[/QUOTE]What about those brothers in the commercials being celebrated for the other 9 to 5, do they count? biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Havent' seen that commercial and so don't know about the "other 9 to 5."

[illiciumverum]

Originally posted by 2121:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by staranise:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 2121:
exactly how can any woman who';s struggled on her own not take offense to this kind of shit.

enought is enough with black-women-this-and-black-women-that on this board - or does the daily workload afford the time to come up with this crap...please. this is not about race, its about men, guys, brothas avoiding their ****ing responsibilities and to make jokes about it or categorise it by race is downright insulting.
so are you inferring that a white woman's experience is the same as a black woman's one? and then of course, the same as an indian woman's experience, an asian's and an hispanic's? </font>[/QUOTE]if they're poor, then yes. </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/rofl.gif now you scaring me. i find your 'feminist' diatribe a bit embarassing. sure i can see your passion for wanting to express how you yourself have struggled, but how many other independent women do not at some stage? by dismissing race as an intrinsic part of a black woman's experience (including sexist attacks) is simplistic at best.

a. which women in the US do you think are over represented in the lower economic bracket?

b. so if we all poor then we all get the same sexist bullsh*t thrown in our faces regardless of race or colour - is this what you are saying? pls correct me if i've misread your post.

[ September 07, 2003, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: staranise ]

[ngeso]

far too many black people in America cheat themselves into believing the "only-a-black-dot-dot-dot"-rubbish. mother of civilization my a**...

[mhd]

Originally posted by ngeso:
far too many black people in America cheat themselves into believing the "only-a-black-dot-dot-dot"-rubbish. mother of civilization my a**... self-loathing on a sunday morning, how quaint

[ngeso]

mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;)

[mhd]

Originally posted by ngeso:
mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;) our differences only set us apart if we let them, peace, enjoy the last precious remnants of the weekend

[And]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;) our differences only set us apart if we let them, peace, enjoy the last precious remnants of the weekend </font>[/QUOTE]That's obvious MHD.
I interpreted Ngeso's response differently. Yes "black" people all over the world may have some things in common, what irks me is reading sweeping generalizations about Black people that don't take into account the differences. Then again skin colour has never been the main reason I've bonded with anyone.
It seems to me that when people agree with some Black is best statement all is well but if a person happens not to agree with the "black" lean of an argument then all of a sudden, "they don't get it?"

[ September 07, 2003, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: 6 23 ]

[mhd]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;) our differences only set us apart if we let them, peace, enjoy the last precious remnants of the weekend </font>[/QUOTE]That's obvious MHD.
I interpreted Ngeso's response differently. Yes "black" people all over the world may have some things in common, what irks me is reading sweeping generalizations about Black people that don't take into account the differences. Then again skin colour has never been the main reason I've bonded with anyone.
It seems to me that when people agree with some Black is best statement all is well but if a person happens not to agree with the "black" lean of an argument then all of a sudden, "they don't get it?" </font>[/QUOTE]really would not expect you to get it.

[imported_Gman]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;) our differences only set us apart if we let them, peace, enjoy the last precious remnants of the weekend </font>[/QUOTE]That's obvious MHD.
I interpreted Ngeso's response differently. Yes "black" people all over the world may have some things in common, what irks me is reading sweeping generalizations about Black people that don't take into account the differences. Then again skin colour has never been the main reason I've bonded with anyone.
It seems to me that when people agree with some Black is best statement all is well but if a person happens not to agree with the "black" lean of an argument then all of a sudden, "they don't get it?" </font>[/QUOTE]really would not expect you to get it. </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry but icon_rofl.gif

[And]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;) our differences only set us apart if we let them, peace, enjoy the last precious remnants of the weekend </font>[/QUOTE]That's obvious MHD.
I interpreted Ngeso's response differently. Yes "black" people all over the world may have some things in common, what irks me is reading sweeping generalizations about Black people that don't take into account the differences. Then again skin colour has never been the main reason I've bonded with anyone.
It seems to me that when people agree with some Black is best statement all is well but if a person happens not to agree with the "black" lean of an argument then all of a sudden, "they don't get it?" </font>[/QUOTE]really would not expect you to get it. </font>[/QUOTE]ZZZZZZ
Your expectation is the problem here.

[And]

Originally posted by Gman:
Sorry but icon_rofl.gif What's the "sorry" for?

[mhd]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;) our differences only set us apart if we let them, peace, enjoy the last precious remnants of the weekend </font>[/QUOTE]That's obvious MHD.
I interpreted Ngeso's response differently. Yes "black" people all over the world may have some things in common, what irks me is reading sweeping generalizations about Black people that don't take into account the differences. Then again skin colour has never been the main reason I've bonded with anyone.
It seems to me that when people agree with some Black is best statement all is well but if a person happens not to agree with the "black" lean of an argument then all of a sudden, "they don't get it?" </font>[/QUOTE]really would not expect you to get it. </font>[/QUOTE]ZZZZZZ
Your expectation is the problem here. </font>[/QUOTE]maybe you should wake up

[imported_Gman]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
Sorry but icon_rofl.gif What's the "sorry" for? </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry to laugh in the middle of your discussion but the way Mark responded to that last post was funny.

[And]

Originally posted by mhd:
maybe you should wake upWhen you have something to say sure ... Oh ... the zzzzzs were for bored.

[mhd]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
maybe you should wake upWhen you have something to say sure ... Oh ... the zzzzzs were for bored. </font>[/QUOTE]

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
mhd, it's a different world from where i'm at. there's no self loathing going on at this end, not the kind you're playing at (different history, different conditioning, different culture, my man). what sets people like the two of us apart outweighs that which we have in common by far. that we both happen to be some sort of black is incidental.

peace. ngeso.

oh, it's sunday evening where i'm at. just to prove a point ;) our differences only set us apart if we let them, peace, enjoy the last precious remnants of the weekend </font>[/QUOTE]That's obvious MHD.
I interpreted Ngeso's response differently. Yes "black" people all over the world may have some things in common, what irks me is reading sweeping generalizations about Black people that don't take into account the differences. Then again skin colour has never been the main reason I've bonded with anyone.
It seems to me that when people agree with some Black is best statement all is well but if a person happens not to agree with the "black" lean of an argument then all of a sudden, "they don't get it?" </font>[/QUOTE]really would not expect you to get it. </font>[/QUOTE]biggrinangel.gif

[ngeso]

have to get back in on this.

Q 1: do the 15 or so listed 'facts' in the initial post bear any relevance for people who do not subscribe to a black-american-pride-sentiment?

Q 2: if the answer to the above is "yes", who decides on this and by what accordance?

peace. ngeso.

[ September 09, 2003, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: ngeso ]

[mhd]

Originally posted by ngeso:
have to get back in on this.

Q 1: do the 15 or so listed 'facts' in the initial post bear any relevance for people who do not subscribe to a black-american-pride-sentiment?

Q 2: if the answer to the above is "yes", who decides on this and by what accordance?

peace. ngeso. decides on what? relevance? relevance is relative. why are you twisting the original post?

[ngeso]

i'm not twisting the original post.

it's there, though, and now that it has been established that some people don't get some stuff that other people do get, i'd appreciate some pointers as to whether one (i.e. myself) is expected to acknowledge or disregard this topic in other instances than the humourous one (which i do read into it). if you're inferring that i'm insensitive to a particular agenda, i'd like to know why i'm supposed to be sensitive to it.

my original reaction to the 15-point-catalogue comes due to my inability to identify with a lot of the implications embedded within that catalogue. again, it is a cultural and a political thing. the race aspect is not of near as much importance (IMO).

peace. ngeso.

[mhd]

Originally posted by ngeso:
i'm not twisting the original post.

it's there, though, and now that it has been established that some people don't get some stuff that other people do get, i'd appreciate some pointers as to whether one (i.e. myself) is expected to acknowledge or disregard this topic in other instances than the humourous one (which i do read into it). if you're inferring that i'm insensitive to a particular agenda, i'd like to know why i'm supposed to be sensitive to it.

my original reaction to the 15-point-catalogue comes due to my inability to identify with a lot of the implications embedded within that catalogue. again, it is a cultural and a political thing. the race aspect is not of near as much importance (IMO).

peace. ngeso. acknowledge or disregard as you see fit. you can be sensitive or not, we are used to opposition and indifference.
for us its cultural, political and racial, in fact, there is no difference between the three.

they are slogans, affirmations if you will, and there is a strong, proud, beautiful history attached to this form of dialogue. you don't have to get it, in her brilliance, dee even apologized in advance, something i would never do, btw. if you want to learn more, here is your chance. if you want to denigrate, here is your chance

[ngeso]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
i'm not twisting the original post.

it's there, though, and now that it has been established that some people don't get some stuff that other people do get, i'd appreciate some pointers as to whether one (i.e. myself) is expected to acknowledge or disregard this topic in other instances than the humourous one (which i do read into it). if you're inferring that i'm insensitive to a particular agenda, i'd like to know why i'm supposed to be sensitive to it.

my original reaction to the 15-point-catalogue comes due to my inability to identify with a lot of the implications embedded within that catalogue. again, it is a cultural and a political thing. the race aspect is not of near as much importance (IMO).

peace. ngeso. acknowledge or disregard as you see fit. you can be sensitive or not, we are used to opposition and indifference.
for us its cultural, political and racial, in fact, there is no difference between the three.

they are slogans, affirmations if you will, and there is a strong, proud, beautiful history attached to this form of dialogue. you don't have to get it, in her brilliance, dee even apologized in advance, something i would never do, btw. if you want to learn more, here is your chance. if you want to denigrate, here is your chance </font>[/QUOTE]mhd, there are many black experiences in this world. you and i do not comprehend all of them.

what can i say? since you (or we) have established, that there are differences after all - and as far as i am concerned these differences are squarely cultural and political, and not racial - i acknowledge your invitation.

peace. ngeso.

[mhd]

Originally posted by ngeso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
i'm not twisting the original post.

it's there, though, and now that it has been established that some people don't get some stuff that other people do get, i'd appreciate some pointers as to whether one (i.e. myself) is expected to acknowledge or disregard this topic in other instances than the humourous one (which i do read into it). if you're inferring that i'm insensitive to a particular agenda, i'd like to know why i'm supposed to be sensitive to it.

my original reaction to the 15-point-catalogue comes due to my inability to identify with a lot of the implications embedded within that catalogue. again, it is a cultural and a political thing. the race aspect is not of near as much importance (IMO).

peace. ngeso. acknowledge or disregard as you see fit. you can be sensitive or not, we are used to opposition and indifference.
for us its cultural, political and racial, in fact, there is no difference between the three.

they are slogans, affirmations if you will, and there is a strong, proud, beautiful history attached to this form of dialogue. you don't have to get it, in her brilliance, dee even apologized in advance, something i would never do, btw. if you want to learn more, here is your chance. if you want to denigrate, here is your chance </font>[/QUOTE]mhd, there are many black experiences in this world. you and i do not comprehend all of them.

what can i say? since you (or we) have established, that there are differences after all - and as far as i am concerned these differences are squarely cultural and political, and not racial - i acknowledge your invitation.

peace. ngeso. </font>[/QUOTE]ironic that you are able to recognize variable and distinct black experiences in one sentence and deny their very existence in the next. or am i missing something?

[ngeso]

nonsense. you said "for us its cultural, political and racial, in fact, there is no difference between the three". i am not "for us". i disagree on the terms you proscribe. there's nothing ironic about that, unless you claim that you are better suited to determine how black i'm supposed to be before myself. you think that because i don't toe the party line it automatically amounts to denial.

the thing is, while i understand and respect your history, tradition and culture to be a source of pride and joy and beauty, there is nothing that universally compels me to feel the same way.

peace. ngeso.

[mhd]

Originally posted by ngeso:
nonsense. you said "for us its cultural, political and racial, in fact, there is no difference between the three". i am not "for us". i disagree on the terms you proscribe. there's nothing ironic about that, unless you claim that you are better suited to determine how black i'm supposed to be before myself. you think that because i don't toe the party line it automatically amounts to denial.

the thing is, while i understand and respect your history, tradition and culture to be a source of pride and joy and beauty, there is nothing that universally compels me to feel the same way.

peace. ngeso. obviously we are misunderstanding each other. i have absolutely no interest in telling you how to think about yourself, i have no interest in telling you how to think about your own 'blackness". i am not asking you to toe any party line, was not aware that there was a party line. as far as my history and culture is concerned i agree that there is nothing compelling you to do anything. people all over the world, of all stripes have found comfort joy and strength from this culture, if you do not, fine. in no way am i trying to convince you of anything

[ngeso]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ngeso:
nonsense. you said "for us its cultural, political and racial, in fact, there is no difference between the three". i am not "for us". i disagree on the terms you proscribe. there's nothing ironic about that, unless you claim that you are better suited to determine how black i'm supposed to be before myself. you think that because i don't toe the party line it automatically amounts to denial.

the thing is, while i understand and respect your history, tradition and culture to be a source of pride and joy and beauty, there is nothing that universally compels me to feel the same way.

peace. ngeso. obviously we are misunderstanding each other. i have absolutely no interest in telling you how to think about yourself, i have no interest in telling you how to think about your own 'blackness". i am not asking you to toe any party line, was not aware that there was a party line. as far as my history and culture is concerned i agree that there is nothing compelling you to do anything. people all over the world, of all stripes have found comfort joy and strength from this culture, if you do not, fine. in no way am i trying to convince you of anything </font>[/QUOTE][seen]