UK People: bollocks to this...

[Monny JcIntosh]

Guilty or not, if the police decide your a bit shifty, they'll keep a record of your fingerprints and DNA.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2890047.stm

[Martin Red]

****ers have had my fingerprints for years.

Mother****ers ain't gonna take my DNA, although that is probably easier than getting finger prints

[danny webb]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
Guilty or not, if the police decide your a bit shifty, they'll keep a record of your fingerprints and DNA.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2890047.stm That's me ****ed then, I always seem to draw undue police attention.

erm not that I'm worried, but how long ago did they start to take DNA from crime scenes? Just wondering what the back-catchment odds are, because really if the old bill can, on a whim, take DNA samples, surely they can round up all the people they ave suspected for years, and find them guilty with matching DNA profiles.
**** me the prisons are full as it is.

[Monny JcIntosh]

They have to arrest you before they will take your DNA. Doesn't matter if you're subsequently cleared, though. No wonder the police are so keen: they can keep an eye on that c*nt who they *know* did it, but couldn't quite convict on the day.

[Martin Red]

I wonder if this is due to the war / terrorism threat due to the ammount of immigrants UK has at this time. Think of the main reason why they wanted to introduce ID cards like the US, or driving licenses with a photograph on.

[jurren]

we're facing the same kind of limitations to our personal freedom here in the netherlands.

dna databanks and the obligation to be able to show an id at any possible time.

people feel less safe, and therefore demand appropriate actions by politicians, to create more security.

where [in our country at least] the center of gravity lied at the protection of the innocent [better 10 criminals out on the street, then one innocent person in jail], it's now shifting towards all criminals in jail, even if it might mean that you'll end up with one or two innocent people in jail.

jurren

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by Martin Red:
I wonder if this is due to the war / terrorism threat due to the ammount of immigrants UK has at this time. Think of the main reason why they wanted to introduce ID cards like the US, or driving licenses with a photograph on. Asylum seekers are already fingerprinted. Everyone knows they're criminals!

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
I wonder if this is due to the war / terrorism threat due to the ammount of immigrants UK has at this time. Think of the main reason why they wanted to introduce ID cards like the US, or driving licenses with a photograph on. Asylum seekers are already fingerprinted. Everyone knows they're criminals! </font>[/QUOTE]I never knew that, teh laws changed with asylum recently though, you have to register at the port you arrive at I believe I wonder if that's where they do the finger printing ?

[jeremy]

If you don't do anything wrong then you don't have anything to worry about. smile.gif biggrinangel.gif

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
I wonder if this is due to the war / terrorism threat due to the ammount of immigrants UK has at this time. Think of the main reason why they wanted to introduce ID cards like the US, or driving licenses with a photograph on. Asylum seekers are already fingerprinted. Everyone knows they're criminals! </font>[/QUOTE]I never knew that, teh laws changed with asylum recently though, you have to register at the port you arrive at I believe I wonder if that's where they do the finger printing ? </font>[/QUOTE]Claimants get fingerprinted on application, which is stored in an ID card along with other info (name, nationality etc). It's to prevent fraudulent mutliple applications. And, presumably, to combat terrorism. It's all in recent changes to the system. More info here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/destination_uk/application.stm). To be honest, I don't know if that information is destroyed when an application is successful - I'd hope so. I checked the recent Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Bill, but my head goes numb reading that kind of thing.

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
I wonder if this is due to the war / terrorism threat due to the ammount of immigrants UK has at this time. Think of the main reason why they wanted to introduce ID cards like the US, or driving licenses with a photograph on. Asylum seekers are already fingerprinted. Everyone knows they're criminals! </font>[/QUOTE]I never knew that, teh laws changed with asylum recently though, you have to register at the port you arrive at I believe I wonder if that's where they do the finger printing ? </font>[/QUOTE]Claimants get fingerprinted on application, which is stored in an ID card along with other info (name, nationality etc). It's to prevent fraudulent mutliple applications. And, presumably, to combat terrorism. It's all in recent changes to the system. More info here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/destination_uk/application.stm). To be honest, I don't know if that information is destroyed when an application is successful - I'd hope so. I checked the recent Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Bill, but my head goes numb reading that kind of thing. </font>[/QUOTE]Intersting stuff, I know the changes recently have resulted in less noise coming from the imigration office underneath my mates record shop, always used to be going off. Now, hundred yards away they have opened a Immigrants Phychology Unit, that's a new one on me.