HDTV users question

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

I bought an HDTV set about 2 years ago. Never used the HD input though. It appears to be a VGA input. The other day I bought what is supposed tp be an HDTV DVD player. It upconverts to 720 and 1080. The problem is it uses a DVI cable. I bought the cable and the adapter to fit the vga port. Nothing. My question is, what are the inputs for HDTV. Componenet, DVI, what?

[däp]

the HD connection should be component. you should have component out from the DVD to component in on the TV. at least that's how mine works. also, i thought HD DVD players were progressive scan using the component outs.

[ December 24, 2003, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: t o r i n ]

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by t o r i n:
the HD connection should be component. you should have component out from the DVD to component in on the TV. at least that's how mine works. also, i thought HD DVD players were progressive scan using the component outs. Nah this is a new technology.I have the component inputs but You cant use the progressive scan at same time as the DVI input. So you are saying the HD connect is Component on mostr TVS?

[Raven Fox]

HDTV electronics (like HDTV's, Plasma Displays, Projectors, etc.) will make a high-resolution video connection in one of three ways (notice how we have a tri-thing going on here). It will be either through a Three-Channel Component (Y/Pr/Pb), a Five-Channel RGB, or a RGB-VGA cable.

For HDTV connections, the most important thing to remember is to maintain signal compatibility on both ends of the cable. For example, if you are connecting to the Y/Pr/Pb component video outputs on a DVD player, you need to make sure that you are using inputs on your display (TV) that can accept a Y/Pr/Pb component video signal. No cable can translate a signal, so the electronics on both ends of the cable MUST be speaking the same "language" in order to make the connection. Se habla Espanol? Otherwise, things will just not work without an external electronic signal converter.

Component video (Y/Pr/Pb) and RGB video are significantly different. Component video is really more of a "TV" based signal, and RGB is more of a "monitor" based signal.

So, how will you know whether your TV can accept your DVD player's signal through its high-quality/high-resolution video connectors? Well, the owner's manual should shed (and not shred) light on what types of signals your display can accept, and through which connectors it can accept them. Rules of Thumb: The first is that DVD players almost always output Y/Pr/Pb-based component video, and most HDTV set-top boxes with 15-pin connectors on them (also called HD15, or D-SUB connectors) will output only RGB-based (usually RGBHV) component video signals. However, 15-pin inputs will either accept component, RGB, or both.

For standard-definition video, the same rules apply as for regular TV sets. The available types of connections (in order from worst to best) are: composite (single yellow video cable), s-video, and component.

Good Luck - HDTV rules.

Raven

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Thanks Raven, but here is what I have DVD Player (http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_subtype.jsp?eUser=&prod_path=%2fAudio+and+Video%2fDVD+Player%2f720p-1080i+DVD+Player)

These are the connections

Component Video Outputs 1 x component video output ( RCA phono x 3 ) - rear

Composite Video Outputs 1 x composite video output ( RCA phono ) - rear

Digital Coaxial Output 1 x SPDIF output ( RCA phono ) - rear

Digital Optical Output 1 x SPDIF output ( TOS Link ) - rear

S-Video Output 1 x S-Video output ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - rear

Connectors Other 2 x audio line-out ( RCA phono x 2 ) - rear, 1 x DVI-Digital ( 29 pin DVI ) - rear

The DVD connection looks like this http://www.cablesnmor.com/images/dvi.jpg

[ December 24, 2003, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: DJ Timmy Richardson ]

[Raven Fox]

Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
My question is, what are the inputs for HDTV. Componenet, DVI, what? DVI-D Cable sounds like it should do the trick / if those are the outputs from your DVD in your image. From your DVD Player - use the DVI-D Out to the DVI-D IN on your HDTV Set.

http://www.cobaltcable.com/images/dvi_cable_250.jpg

That SHOULD do the trick ~ unless I'm missing something / what kind of TV set do you have?

[ December 24, 2003, 07:32 PM: Message edited by: Raven Fox ]

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

TV (http://www.epinions.com/elec-Video-Televisions-All-Sharp_34N-WF5H-Sharp_34N-WF5H/display_~full_specs) This is the set I have but the hd input is VGA. So I bought the DVI to VGA adaptor. No signal.

[Raven Fox]

OK.. here you go.

The HD inputs for your SHARP are listed as (RGB/Y,PB,PR)

(Also make sure to set any switches on the TV control panel to correspond with the input.)

http://www.cobaltcable.com/images/rgbhv.jpg

So you have to go this route CABLE wise...

http://www.cobaltcable.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/svga_breakout.jpg

Try http://www.cobaltcable.com/index.htm

They have custom everything and can help you get out of your jam.

Good Luck!

[ December 24, 2003, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: Raven Fox ]

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Thanks Raven..That looks like it may work..I'll hit em up.

[Chris Conrad]

the dvi inout standard wasn't really finalized untilthe past year or so, so peopel who bought hdtv's say two years liek yourself are basically out of luck...the new standardis the enw cable you had a picture of...it will probably not work with the vga cionvertor...its all very confusing as the standards weren't really agreed to until recently and people ran out and bought tv's over a year ago...also, some tv's will not display certain resolutions but are still labelled as hdtv compatible because they cover some of the resolutions. most newer hdtv sets do not have problems. i am involved in the consumer electronics business and alot of people are upset because they thought they were buying the latest stuff a few years back. many higher end clients of mine are running video scaler systems to upconvert all their inout sources, be it dvd or vcr to one type of hdtv resolution...

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
the dvi inout standard wasn't really finalized untilthe past year or so, so peopel who bought hdtv's say two years liek yourself are basically out of luck...the new standardis the enw cable you had a picture of...it will probably not work with the vga cionvertor...its all very confusing as the standards weren't really agreed to until recently and people ran out and bought tv's over a year ago...also, some tv's will not display certain resolutions but are still labelled as hdtv compatible because they cover some of the resolutions. most newer hdtv sets do not have problems. i am involved in the consumer electronics business and alot of people are upset because they thought they were buying the latest stuff a few years back. many higher end clients of mine are running video scaler systems to upconvert all their inout sources, be it dvd or vcr to one type of hdtv resolution... So you are saying that the newer tvs have DVI, because my brother recently bought and it doesnt have it. Is there no way to go DVI to component. Thanks for the lesson.

[däp]

Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
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the HD connection should be component. you should have component out from the DVD to component in on the TV. at least that's how mine works. also, i thought HD DVD players were progressive scan using the component outs. Nah this is a new technology.I have the component inputs but You cant use the progressive scan at same time as the DVI input. So you are saying the HD connect is Component on mostr TVS? </font>[/QUOTE]yes. i believe it to be the highest resolution connection for video.