What does "Europe" mean to you? [Archive]

TAC

09-25-2003, 12:04 PM

Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people!

Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU.

Discuss...

Peace
TAC

[ September 25, 2003, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: TAC ]

jimmymack-2000

09-25-2003, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people!

Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU.

Discuss...

Peace
TAC Shouldn't you be above this?

TAC

09-25-2003, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people!

Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU.

Discuss...

Peace
TAC Shouldn't you be above this? [/QUOTE]Nope.

Actually, I'm a creation of the British Empire.

Peace
TAC

The Donger

09-25-2003, 12:19 PM

"The Final Countdown"

der geile hund

09-25-2003, 12:26 PM

We're heading to Venus
But still we stand tall!

JMJ

09-25-2003, 12:28 PM

So much history......JMJ

Fletch

09-25-2003, 12:32 PM

From my vacation in Paris, I got a feeling that Europe has become more nonwhite than we are led to believe.

Oh, yeah, TAC,

The "...creation of the British Empire" quote, is that due to your Carribean heritage (didn't you say you were Carribean)?

If so, then the late Peter Tosh would disagree ("You're An African"). ;)

TAC

09-25-2003, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by einnod23:
From my vacation in Paris, I got a feeling that Europe has become more nonwhite than we are led to believe.This is true, and its killing 'em...

The "...creation of the British Empire" quote, is that due to your Carribean heritage (didn't you say you were Carribean)?Oh, yeah, TAC,
Nope!

If so, then the late Peter Tosh would disagree ("You're An African"). ;) For reasons which will remain undisclosed, I respectfully have to disagree with this conclusion.

Peace
TAC

djfunq

09-25-2003, 12:57 PM

EDDY WALLY (the voice of Europe) graemlins/grinyes.gif

Martin Red

09-25-2003, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by The Donger:
"The Final Countdown" graemlins/rofl.gif

http://www.dancefloor.com/IMA/europeFC.jpg

graemlins/lol.gif

nev m

09-25-2003, 01:13 PM

nev m

09-25-2003, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Martin Red:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The Donger:
"The Final Countdown" graemlins/rofl.gif

http://www.dancefloor.com/IMA/europeFC.jpg

graemlins/lol.gif [/QUOTE]Oh my god! there was a TOTP replay two weeks ago, and they were on. Man they are (were) so shiiite! They were jumping all over each other lip synching
really badly. (didn't you used to play this graemlins/rofl.gif )

There's words I could use but........ graemlins/rofl.gif

GrantB

09-25-2003, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by nev m:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The Donger:
"The Final Countdown" graemlins/rofl.gif

http://www.dancefloor.com/IMA/europeFC.jpg

graemlins/lol.gif [/QUOTE]Oh my god! there was a TOTP replay two weeks ago, and they were on. Man they are (were) so shiiite! They were jumping all over each other lip synching
really badly. (didn't you used to play this graemlins/rofl.gif )

There's words I could use but........ graemlins/rofl.gif [/QUOTE]Daaayum Is their hair still like that icon_rofl.gif

the crackhouse

09-25-2003, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
So much history......JMJ ... yes ...

statuskuo

09-25-2003, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people! Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU. Discuss... Peace
TAC RACIST! i am surprised you didn;t use the word "pasty".

der geile hund

09-25-2003, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by statuskuo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people! Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU. Discuss... Peace
TAC RACIST! i am surprised you didn;t use the word "pasty". [/QUOTE]Some of them got down with Moors.

TAC

09-25-2003, 01:55 PM

lyot

09-25-2003, 02:01 PM

the continent where the mixes that suck come from..

statuskuo

09-25-2003, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people! Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU. Discuss... Peace
TAC RACIST! i am surprised you didn;t use the word "pasty". [/QUOTE]Hey, Missa Chin, don't get me started on the Chinese... [/QUOTE]LATE. lunch was good, you p*ssy.

manfred

09-25-2003, 02:05 PM

europe=the colonizer

TAC

09-25-2003, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by statuskuo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people! Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU. Discuss... Peace
TAC RACIST! i am surprised you didn;t use the word "pasty". [/QUOTE]Hey, Missa Chin, don't get me started on the Chinese... [/QUOTE]LATE. lunch was good, you p*ssy. [/QUOTE]Argh, you just make my hunger kick in. I haven't eaten yet.

Hey, Gman, he called me a name!

Leslie

09-25-2003, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, bedding down with dogs and all sorts of animals. The Ice people! Come on you lot, what does it mean to YOU. Discuss... Peace
TAC RACIST! i am surprised you didn;t use the word "pasty". [/QUOTE]Hey, Missa Chin, don't get me started on the Chinese... [/QUOTE]LATE. lunch was good, you p*ssy. [/QUOTE]Argh, you just make my hunger kick in. I haven't eaten yet.

Hey, Gman, he called me a name! [/QUOTE]Yea too bad you missed it - a once in a blue moon special....

Martin Red

09-25-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by TAC:
Here's what I envision.

A bunch of smelly people, living in caves, Ice = cool
Warm = sweaty
;)

"What does "Europe" mean to you?"

Straight bananas of a certain length

cash notes/coins without some old ugly rich bitches face on one side

back to the bat cave

lyot

09-25-2003, 02:26 PM

the proof that multilateralism can work

Leslie

09-25-2003, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Martin Red:
cash notes/coins without some old ugly rich bitches face on one side

Martin, so harsh! graemlins/rofl.gif

Germain

09-25-2003, 03:17 PM

FASHION

Martin Red

09-26-2003, 07:57 AM

Different languages

martin

09-26-2003, 08:27 AM

Champions League

Jolyon

09-26-2003, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by The Donger:
"The Final Countdown" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DJ76

09-26-2003, 11:18 AM

Which Europe? The rich or the poor one?

For the rest, Europe to me means taking the time to do things, not stressing for everything and enjoying life. The consequence of this is that you will see most stores closed on sunday, average service in restaurants and bars, etc.

Culture, something North America does not possess. Actually, North America exports its non-culture, which is fascinating. The most interesting cultural heritage of North America is being shoved down, silenced and ignored (like our music ;) ).

Sex, is it me or do we get more of that in Europe? graemlins/rofl.gif

Decent food.

Cheap wine.

Expensive flats.

Neo-nazis.

Beautiful cities.

Small distances between countries (easier to travel).

BIKES!

Wars.

Less obese people.

Less Ontarians.

Kinky people :D

DD Licious

09-26-2003, 12:00 PM

djfunq
Member
Member # 3136

posted September 25, 2003 01:52 PM
DY WALLY (the voice of Europe) http://www.rtbf.be/interieurnuit/kitch/voice0.gif

C hristian

09-26-2003, 01:41 PM

depends on the country.

for lyot - Belgium - Brel, Waffles, and TOLERANCE. A tolerant people/society. Neuhaus chocolates. Mayo with your Chips/fries/frites

france - decedant culture, haute couture, gothic churches, beautiful language, women who have some of the most sex in the world.

europe as a whole - socialism.

Mah'chew

09-28-2003, 02:49 AM

The home of revolution..

[ September 28, 2003, 03:51 AM: Message edited by: Mah'chew ]

Matt U

09-28-2003, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by C hristian:
europe as a whole - socialism.Being European, I have to say that I have no clue what you're talking about. If you could name what countries are truly socialist I'd be much grateful. Somewhat social democrat in a very select few instances, but all in all Europe to me is a continent that is defiantly capitalist.

Moksha

09-28-2003, 06:37 AM

Europe=financed this thing we call house

C hristian

09-28-2003, 07:13 AM

I don't think I could name any country that is purely anything. Even the US's capitalism isn't entirely capitalistic. Our markets aren't completely free.

But Europe , compared to America, is to the left. I'm thinking about things like Public Healthcare.

Countries specifically ?

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, France

Where is the redistribution of wealth more than these places?

(am I off-base here?)

[ September 28, 2003, 08:14 AM: Message edited by: C hristian ]

Matt U

09-28-2003, 09:01 AM

Sweden has a Social Democrat government. Denmark has a right-wing government. The Netherlands have a center-right government. France has a centre-right government and a conservative president.
The whole EU is a center-right project, so I don't think you could say that Europe is very socialist.

Yes, the welfare system still prevails in many countries, but it's on a decline almost everywhere.

What is quite general in most European countries, in which you are right, is a mixed economy. State-owned industries compete on similar terms with private enterprises, but it's still capitalist as far the meaning of the word goes.
Many countries do have free or very cheap health care though.

Cheers!

[ September 28, 2003, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: Matt U ]

Mah'chew

09-28-2003, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by C hristian:
I don't think I could name any country that is purely anything. Even the US's capitalism isn't entirely capitalistic. Our markets aren't completely free.

But Europe , compared to America, is to the left. I'm thinking about things like Public Healthcare.

Countries specifically ?

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, France

Where is the redistribution of wealth more than these places?

(am I off-base here?) You mean to say, that there's is no state funded healthcare or education in the US?

Now that's barbaric to say the least..

What happens when you're poor and you have an accident, what if you're poor and want to go to University?

You mean to say there might be a kid running around a poor neighborhood of the US who has the potential in her imagination to come up with a cure for AIDS, but because she'll not get a state schooling (University included) she runs the risk of working in a nail salon? :( :( :(

[ September 28, 2003, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: Mah'chew ]

martin

09-28-2003, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Matt U:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by C hristian:
europe as a whole - socialism.Being European, I have to say that I have no clue what you're talking about. If you could name what countries are truly socialist I'd be much grateful. Somewhat social democrat in a very select few instances, but all in all Europe to me is a continent that is defiantly capitalist. [/QUOTE]There has never been a truly `socialist' nation: China came the closest. Europe has never come anywhere near.

martin

09-28-2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Mah'chew:
The home of revolution.. I thought that was Britain.

Mah'chew

09-28-2003, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by martin:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mah'chew:
The home of revolution.. I thought that was Britain. [/QUOTE]Industrial, sure, but Social, we missed out on that..

We should have had a revolution years ago, but it seems that our ironic sense of humor comes from a dis/ability to accept the status quo..

Yes we have the most cunningly evolved sense of humor in the world, but we pay for it in our own way by having a right-wing psudo-socialist prime minister and some parasitic Germanic bitch sitting in her 200 bedroom house in SW1..

I get the feeling we'd always make do, make fun of the situation and just get on with it...

We should have had our revolution when the poll-tax was cutting the country in two, that was our perfect moment, that was, as Churchill put it, our finest hour..

Now it's just like Orwell's '1984', with Bush and Blair creating (albeit not false) wars to keep the home-front from looking internally and seeing what a mess we're in..

I will be buying all the drinks when Thatcher dies, that's my own personal revolution, I am going to dance all night high on the fact that the WITCH is DEAD..

martin

09-29-2003, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by Mah'chew:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by martin:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mah'chew:
The home of revolution.. I thought that was Britain. [/QUOTE]Industrial, sure, but Social, we missed out on that..

We should have had a revolution years ago, but it seems that our ironic sense of humor comes from a dis/ability to accept the status quo..[/QUOTE]Have you heard of Wat Tyler? The first ever revolutionary, and a hero of mine.

Originally posted by Mah'chew:
I get the feeling we'd always make do, make fun of the situation and just get on with it...

I always thought that, but having lived in Europe I found that other nation's perception of us was very different. Historically Britain has always been seen by Europe as a hot-bed of revolution. `The Enlightenment' was actually cited by many European philosophers and thinkers as having been inspired by events in Britain, and the British Enlightenment. Some time after that this perception of Britain can still be seen in the works of Marx: he thought Britain was the ideal place for his progression of dialectic materialism to acheive communism.

djfunq

09-30-2003, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by DD Licious:
<blockquote>quote:<hr /> djfunq
Member
Member # 3136

posted September 25, 2003 01:52 PM
DY WALLY (the voice of Europe) http://www.rtbf.be/interieurnuit/kitch/voice0.gif [/QUOTE]Thanks DD Licious, for the always oh so funny pictures of Eddy Wally, GEWELDIG!!!

Jacques de Doozu

09-30-2003, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by djfunq:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DD Licious:
<blockquote>quote:<hr /> djfunq
Member
Member # 3136

posted September 25, 2003 01:52 PM
DY WALLY (the voice of Europe) http://www.rtbf.be/interieurnuit/kitch/voice0.gif [/QUOTE]Thanks DD Licious, for the always oh so funny pictures of Eddy Wally, GEWELDIG!!! [/QUOTE]http://www.eddywally.com/images/marokko.jpg
http://www.eddywally.com/images/china.jpg
http://www.eddywally.com/images/eddyeddy.jpg
http://www.eddywally.com/images/eddy_in_lava.jpg
AMAAAAAIIII, ONGELOOFELIIIJJJKK..EDDY W IS IN THE HOUSE :D

C hristian

09-30-2003, 11:35 PM

I do repeat - compared to America , Europe is socialist. But it's all comparitive. We are not pure capitalism (although too pure for my tastes) and Europe isn't pure socialism. But I think that how I see Europe as being comparitively socialistic is how many Americans see it, as well.

Mah'chew - shall I break down the reality of being poor in this country, never mind the theory?
MILLIONS of Americans, including myself, my family right now for over 1 year, without health care. yes, we've applied...

education? let's just talk about adequate retraining for workers to be able to get back into the workforce wiht up to date skills ithout having to go back to the foundations of writing and debating..