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JMNYC
06-26-2003, 03:36 PM
The supreme court today struck down a Texas law making it illegal for same-sex couples to have penetrative sex.
Finally, now I can get some ('cause you know, I would never break the law).
Moksha
06-26-2003, 03:38 PM
Congratulations! You can go to Canada and get married, too!
Mack-Williams
06-26-2003, 03:39 PM
Congratulations. Don't tear it up.
Moksha
06-26-2003, 03:40 PM
The sad thing is: 3 justices voted against it...
Discogoddess
06-26-2003, 03:41 PM
Errbody get their (legal) booty-lovin ON!!!!!
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Discogoddess
06-26-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
Congratulations. Don't tear it up. You made a funny.
:D
Leslie
06-26-2003, 03:43 PM
That was a big victory today for the gay community - I am sure it will be well celebrated this weekend. How the whole case got started is absolutely ridiculous!
Supreme Court Strikes Down Gay Sex Ban
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By ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - What gay men and women do in the privacy of their bedrooms is their business and not the government's, the Supreme Court said Thursday in a historic civil rights ruling striking down bans on what some states have called deviate sex acts.
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Slideshow: Supreme Court Strikes Down Gay Sex Ban
Gay rights advocates called the ruling, by a 6-3 vote, the most important legal advance ever for gay people in the United States.
Two gay men arrested after police walked in on them having sex "are entitled to respect for their private lives," Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote. "The state cannot demean their existence or control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime."
In a lengthy, strongly worded dissent, the three most conservative justices called the ruling a huge mistake that showed the court had been co-opted by the "so-called homosexual agenda."
"The court has taken sides in the culture war," Justice Antonin Scalia (news - web sites) wrote for the three, suggesting the ruling would invite laws allowing same-sex marriages.
The court voted to strike down a Texas law that made homosexual sex a crime. The law allows police to arrest gays for oral or anal sex, conduct that would be legal for heterosexuals.
Of the 13 states with sodomy laws, four — Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma and Missouri — prohibit oral and anal sex between same-sex couples. The other nine ban consensual sodomy for everyone: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia.
Thursday's ruling invalidates all of those laws, lawyers said.
In strikingly broad and contrite language, the court overturned an earlier ruling that had upheld sodomy laws on moral grounds.
The Constitution's framers "knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress," Kennedy wrote.
Laws forbidding homosexual sex, once universal, now are rare. Those on the books have been rarely enforced but underpin other kinds of discrimination, lawyers for the two Texas men had argued to the court.
"This is unquestionably the most important gay rights case ever," said Matt Coles, director of the Lesbian and Gay Rights Project at the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites).
"The court is saying that personal relationships, intimate relationships that ... give your life meaning, that gay people have the same right to those relationships that everyone else does."
Houston District Attorney Charles A. Rosenthal Jr., who argued in favor of the law before the high court, called the ruling a major departure from earlier court statements.
"I am disappointed that the Supreme Court (majority) did not allow the people of the state of Texas, through their elected legislators, to determine moral standards of governance for this state."
Texas had defended its sodomy law as in keeping with the state's interest in protecting marriage and child-rearing. Homosexual sodomy, the state argued, "has nothing to do with marriage or conception or parenthood and it is not on a par with these sacred choices."
Justices John Paul Stevens (news - web sites), David Souter (news - web sites), Ruth Bader Ginsburg (news - web sites) and Stephen Breyer (news - web sites) agreed with Kennedy in full.
Justice Sandra Day O'Connor (news - web sites) agreed with the outcome of the case but would have decided it on different constitutional grounds. She also did not join in reversing the court's 1986 ruling on the same subject.
Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Scalia and Clarence Thomas (news - web sites) dissented.
The court "has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda," Scalia wrote for the three. He took the unusual step of reading his dissent from the bench.
Although the majority opinion said the case did not "involve whether the government must give formal recognition to any relationship that homosexual persons seek to enter," Scalia said the ruling could open the way to laws allowing gay marriage.
"This reasoning leaves on pretty shaky grounds state laws limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples," Scalia wrote.
The ruling also threatens laws banning bestiality, bigamy and incest, he wrote.
Thomas wrote separately to say that while he considered the Texas law at issue "uncommonly silly," he could not agree to strike it down because he found no general right to privacy in the Constitution.
Thomas calls himself a strict adherent to the actual words of the Constitution as opposed to modern-day interpretations. If he were a Texas legislator and not a judge, Thomas said, he would vote to repeal the law.
"Punishing someone for expressing his sexual preference through noncommercial consensual conduct with another adult does not appear to be a worthy way to expend valuable law enforcement resources," he wrote.
The two men at the heart of the case, John Geddes Lawrence and Tyron Garner, were each fined $200 and spent a night in jail for the misdemeanor sex charge in 1998.
The case began when a neighbor with a grudge faked a distress call to police, telling them that a man was "going crazy" in Lawrence's apartment. Police went to the apartment, pushed open the door and found the two men.
"This ruling lets us get on with our lives and it opens the door for gay people all over the country," Lawrence said Thursday.
As recently as 1960, every state had an anti-sodomy law. In 37 states, the statutes have been repealed by lawmakers or blocked by state courts.
The Supreme Court was widely criticized 17 years ago when it upheld a Georgia antisodomy law similar to that of Texas. The ruling became a rallying point for gay activists.
Of the nine justices who ruled on the 1986 case, only three remain on the court. Rehnquist was in the majority in that case — Bowers v. Hardwick — as was O'Connor. Stevens dissented.
"Bowers was not correct when it was decided, and it is not correct today," Kennedy wrote for the majority Thursday.
Kennedy noted that the current case does not involve minors or anyone who might be unable or reluctant to refuse a homosexual advance.
"The case does involve two adults who, with full and mutual consent from each other, engaged in sexual practices common to a homosexual lifestyle. Their right to liberty under (the Constitution) gives them the full right to engage in their conduct without intervention of the government."
The case is Lawrence v. Texas, 02-102.
That'll teach the neighbors to mind their own damn business!
Discogoddess
06-26-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Orion:
The sad thing is: 3 justices voted against it... And you know Clarence "Long Dong Silver" was one of them...the "wood" up his booty continues to cloud his judgement, I see.
Jamie 3:26
06-26-2003, 03:44 PM
"Don't bend over,cause you'll get the shock of your life"-Loletta Holloway.
Musica
06-26-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by JMNYC:
The supreme court today struck down a Texas law making it illegal for same-sex couples to have penetrative sex.
Finally, now I can get some ('cause you know, I would never break the law). Enjoy and be safe! graemlins/acclaim.gif
[ June 26, 2003, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: Musica ]
Skip Intro
06-26-2003, 03:50 PM
Nothing like some good old ass pummeling to celebrate, huh?
Terri 447
06-26-2003, 03:52 PM
WOO-HOO!
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Moksha
06-26-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Discogoddess:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Orion:
The sad thing is: 3 justices voted against it... And you know Clarence "Long Dong Silver" was one of them...the "wood" up his booty continues to cloud his judgement, I see. </font>[/QUOTE]Yah...and he voted with Scalia (and against everyone else, including Rhenquist!) in opposing the overturning of an abused, retarded man's death sentence. . . Uncle Thomas is the most conservative justice up there!
JMNYC
06-26-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Orion:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Discogoddess:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Orion:
The sad thing is: 3 justices voted against it... And you know Clarence "Long Dong Silver" was one of them...the "wood" up his booty continues to cloud his judgement, I see. </font>[/QUOTE]Yah...and he voted with Scalia (and against everyone else, including Rhenquist!) in opposing the overturning of an abused, retarded man's death sentence. . . Uncle Thomas is the most conservative justice up there! </font>[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, that's why he's in the Supreme Court. What I don't understand is why didn't some justices retire during the Clinton era. That was just irresponsible of the less conservative judges to not retire when there was a chance to replace them with someone who would continue their less conservative tradition.
Anyway, I know what I'm gonna do to celebrate. ;)
Originally posted by JMNYC:
Anyway, I know what I'm gonna do to celebrate. ;) This two have already started celebrating.
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Ron la Rock
06-26-2003, 05:07 PM
YOU Better wurk! graemlins/nono.gif
JOHN
(but remember saddle up)
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Digiman
06-26-2003, 06:41 PM
Just be thankful you aren't a spider....
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993876
socratez
06-26-2003, 07:35 PM
All jokes aside. Its a sick thing that such a law can even be discussed. Damn,,, they got a long way to go.
MsAlayneous
06-26-2003, 07:59 PM
Just be thankful you aren't a spider....
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993876 eeewwwww!
but lmao at:
The females of many species are cannibals, literally combining dinner and a date.
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