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Bold Soul

11-21-2003, 01:39 PM

Something to consider...

A watch is made by its WATCHMAKER. The watchmaker's intentions for making the watch are clear.

But long after the watchmaker passes on, the watch continues to operate...still keeping time...still ticking...

Our current society is like a watch whose watchmaker has long since passed. We complain about how society isn't functioning for the good of all, yet we continue to wind that watch...that watch created according to the intentions of those long since past.

We value the watch while we curse those who made it. Those we elect to wind it.

Maybe it's time to find a new way to keep time.

Hokus Pokus...

D J 1 3 8

11-21-2003, 01:46 PM

http://pw1.netcom.com/~dalgoda/personal/watchmen.jpg

DLow

11-21-2003, 01:47 PM

This is cool. It could be that society continues to wind this watch for fear of the cost of change. Change/revolution...however it's termed, is painful.

shannoneileen

11-21-2003, 02:37 PM

couldn't that be why America doesn't dig House... like we do?

i heard the whole 'disco sucks' movement was about white guys (some... no offense folks) getting mad because they now had to share the platform with Blacks, Latinos, Women and Gay folk...

and why we have misogynistic rap ruling the airwaves instead of peace&love... and dance...

and the whole backlash against civil rights?

i could go on and on... kinda like the ticks of that watch...

upliftdisco365

11-21-2003, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Shannon_Shawan:
i heard the whole 'disco sucks' movement was about white guys (some... no offense folks) getting mad because they now had to share the platform with Blacks, Latinos, Women and Gay folk...
I think that the bulk of the backlash towards Disco was due to the performance of popular music leaving the concert and the arena; abandoning the typical combo/session musician in favor of the discotheques and the DJ. Straight, improv-less dance beats infuriated drumers. Repetitve musical arrangements and party/chant themes pissed-off the writers. The whole time, they weren't even really hating Disco, just a cheesy pop-facsimile.

What a mess.

shannoneileen

11-21-2003, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Shannon_Shawan:
i heard the whole 'disco sucks' movement was about white guys (some... no offense folks) getting mad because they now had to share the platform with Blacks, Latinos, Women and Gay folk...
I think that the bulk of the backlash towards Disco was due to the performance of popular music leaving the concert and the arena; abandoning the typical combo/session musician in favor of the discotheques and the DJ. Straight, improv-less dance beats infuriated drumers. Repetitve musical arrangements and party/chant themes pissed-off the writers. The whole time, they weren't even really hating Disco, just a cheesy pop-facsimile.

What a mess. [/QUOTE]didn't every popular star... and their mama... have a disco tune out? lol
kristy nichols, lief garrett... etc...

yeah, but what about the burning of the records on the basball field and all that?

some called that racism/homophobia... need to find me links... smile.gif

upliftdisco365

11-21-2003, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Shannon_Shawan:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Shannon_Shawan:
i heard the whole 'disco sucks' movement was about white guys (some... no offense folks) getting mad because they now had to share the platform with Blacks, Latinos, Women and Gay folk...
I think that the bulk of the backlash towards Disco was due to the performance of popular music leaving the concert and the arena; abandoning the typical combo/session musician in favor of the discotheques and the DJ. Straight, improv-less dance beats infuriated drumers. Repetitve musical arrangements and party/chant themes pissed-off the writers. The whole time, they weren't even really hating Disco, just a cheesy pop-facsimile.

What a mess. [/QUOTE]didn't every popular star... and their mama... have a disco tune out? lol
kristy nichols, lief garrett... etc...

[/QUOTE]"...cheesy pop-facsimile.

You just named the cheesiest artists of the day. Legitimate rock bands and balladeers got the allegience of their fans. That got the radio involved. Shortly there after, Disco took the rap for what wasn't even Disco.

...That "I Was Made for Danicing" was pretty catchy, though...

shannoneileen

11-21-2003, 03:36 PM

...That "I Was Made for Danicing" was pretty catchy, though...

graemlins/lol.gif

Friday

11-21-2003, 03:45 PM

shannoneileen

11-21-2003, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by gf:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
Something to consider...

A watch is made by its WATCHMAKER. The watchmaker's intentions for making the watch are clear.

But long after the watchmaker passes on, the watch continues to operate...still keeping time...still ticking...

Our current society is like a watch whose watchmaker has long since passed. We complain about how society isn't functioning for the good of all, yet we continue to wind that watch...that watch created according to the intentions of those long since past.

We value the watch while we curse those who made it. Those we elect to wind it.

Maybe it's time to find a new way to keep time.

Hokus Pokus... Read it again.

A long time ago the rules and the standards were set, We now as a society have seen the malfunctions throughout the years but we keep winding up the clock and complaining because the time is wrong.

Who has the courage to change the time? ;) [/QUOTE]Girl Friday has the courage to change the time!
psst... do you like the song 'I Was Made For Dancing'? :D

don't mind me... it's friday... (sorry Danny)

D J 1 3 8

11-21-2003, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
Something to consider...

A watch is made by its WATCHMAKER. The watchmaker's intentions for making the watch are clear.

But long after the watchmaker passes on, the watch continues to operate...still keeping time...still ticking...

Our current society is like a watch whose watchmaker has long since passed. We complain about how society isn't functioning for the good of all, yet we continue to wind that watch...that watch created according to the intentions of those long since past.

We value the watch while we curse those who made it. Those we elect to wind it.

Maybe it's time to find a new way to keep time.

Hokus Pokus... comic references aside...
I went to see Noam Chomsky speak yesterday. I am a great admirer of his work. As smart as he is, his delivery can be a bit dull and long-winded. However, when he answers questions from the audience, thing usually get interesting.

Some kid asked him how can we as Americans possibly create political change when the media is so biased and controlled, and we now have additional limits like The Patriot Act.

Chomsky responded (paraphrasing here)with "You've got to be kidding me! If you want instructions, just look at the rest of the world. There are people building grass roots movements and changing entire political systems in countries that are essentially dictatorships where there is nothing remotely resembling a free press and police will come and arrest you in the middle of the night and murder you just for speaking in public." He went on to describe the Patriot Act as so minor compared to the oppression suffered by the rest of the world, that it wasn't even worth discussing. He described the privelege under which Americans live to be unprecedented on the rest of the planet - sort of a "no one has it easier than we do". I would have to agree. He said society could easily change in this country if Americans actually wanted it to.

[ November 21, 2003, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: DJ 138 ]

Friday

11-21-2003, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Shannon_Shawan:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gf:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
Something to consider...

A watch is made by its WATCHMAKER. The watchmaker's intentions for making the watch are clear.

But long after the watchmaker passes on, the watch continues to operate...still keeping time...still ticking...

Our current society is like a watch whose watchmaker has long since passed. We complain about how society isn't functioning for the good of all, yet we continue to wind that watch...that watch created according to the intentions of those long since past.

We value the watch while we curse those who made it. Those we elect to wind it.

Maybe it's time to find a new way to keep time.

Hokus Pokus... Read it again.

A long time ago the rules and the standards were set, We now as a society have seen the malfunctions throughout the years but we keep winding up the clock and complaining because the time is wrong.

Who has the courage to change the time? ;) [/QUOTE]Girl Friday has the courage to change the time!
psst... do you like the song 'I Was Made For Dancing'? :D

don't mind me... it's friday... (sorry Danny) [/QUOTE]don't know that song....sorry graemlins/conf44.gif

Friday

11-21-2003, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
We value the watch while we curse those who made it. Here is the key.

Friday

11-24-2003, 01:33 PM

I have been thinking about this thread all weekend and I noticed that it slowly slipped away to the back pages.

Most of us talk about changing things but we just end up sitting back pondering how to make it happen and then accept what we think we cannot change. I do think this is a worthy discussion. Let's all please discuss this!

Who has the courage? ;)

Friday

11-24-2003, 03:19 PM

Anyone?!? WOW!

Leslie

11-24-2003, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by gf:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
We value the watch while we curse those who made it. Here is the key. [/QUOTE]This is due to the "benefits" one receives from the status quo - no matter how badly you may want things to change.

Friday

11-24-2003, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Leslie:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gf:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
We value the watch while we curse those who made it. Here is the key. [/QUOTE]This is due to the "benefits" one receives from the status quo - no matter how badly you may want things to change. [/QUOTE]Thank you Leslie smile.gif and this is so true. We have elected leaders to lead us into a life of submission and accept. These "benefits", can they hardly be worth the price of living the life you want to live?