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Walter M. Jones
05-27-2003, 11:51 PM
I hear about pioneer (you know them) DJ's that used to put pop/rock music in their mixes. Could you get away with that now? What current pop/rock group would you pick to go into a House(or any other style you are feeling) set? I'm sure this subject has come up before here. Peace.

[ May 28, 2003, 12:52 AM: Message edited by: Walter M. Jones ]

AD
05-28-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
Would you put other music besides House in your mix? Yes. Just play what you feel.

sammyrock
05-28-2003, 05:31 AM
Yes Walt,make a difference,play what ya feel..how did the party go???? did you collect a glow-stix for me???lol lol I hope that x-stacy was good,,,lol lol :D

Jolyon
05-28-2003, 05:41 AM
Current pop? I'd say that Justin Timberlake track...it's a great dance track.

socratez
05-28-2003, 05:46 AM
ill have to agree with that,,, great bridge btw.

The pop/rock track ill ever play is Once in a lifetime by the Talking Heads.

erd
05-28-2003, 05:49 AM
Sure Talking HEads, but Walter asked about current Bands/Artists...what is with these?

The only ones I could think of are Zoot Woman with the original version of "It's Automatic" and maybe Moloko "Familiar Feelings" when edited properly.

Peace,

Gerd

[ May 28, 2003, 06:49 AM: Message edited by: gj ]

socratez
05-28-2003, 05:55 AM
Well i dont actualy im trying to get rid of the eclectic style most poeple have nowadays. NOwadays i only play good techno(mostly detroit related) and house.


Originally posted by gj:
Sure Talking HEads, but Walter asked about current Bands/Artists...what is with these?

The only ones I could think of are Zoot Woman with the original version of "It's Automatic" and maybe Moloko "Familiar Feelings" when edited properly.

Peace,

Gerd

erd
05-28-2003, 06:03 AM
It's all good, socatez.
I think one of the main problems with current pop/rock is that it's not really dance music.
Respectively when it is, it tends to be some kinky cheesy stuff like Kylie Minogue which I actually heard soem underground discjockeys over here playing, but couldn't enjoy a single bit of it.

We should accept that we are no longer in the eighties...the mentioned moloko and Zoot Woman tracks soemhow seems to fit in that dancebale pop category for me though.

Peace,

Gerd

der geile hund
05-28-2003, 06:08 AM
Of course there's danceable pop music currently: hip hop.

JMJ
05-28-2003, 06:11 AM
I'm currently incorporating classic Amish folk tunes into my mixes, along with lullaby's and some of my favorites from Sesame Street.....JMJ

erd
05-28-2003, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by der geile hund:
Of course there's danceable pop music currently: hip hop. Oooops, made the mistake to consider Hip Hop not Pop...big, big, mistake..."with a bottle full of..."

der geile hund
05-28-2003, 06:16 AM
I wasn't saying all hip hop is pop, but that new Snoop cut is hell of catchy ...

JMJ
05-28-2003, 06:21 AM
Don't sleep on "C Is for Cookie" by Oscar The Grouch......JMJ

DJ George Bates
05-28-2003, 06:23 AM
don't forget all those tv show themes !!! smile.gif

Those are real popular now !

imported_Chr_stopher
05-28-2003, 06:25 AM
why not, play anything - be unpredictable.

erd
05-28-2003, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by der geile hund:
I wasn't saying all hip hop is pop, but that new Snoop cut is hell of catchy ... Yes it is, I prefer "The One and Only" though. Have you head that one? Dj Premier produced it.

Peace,

Gerd

jurren
05-28-2003, 06:58 AM
there's a couple of red hot chili peppers songs that come to mind. especially their early work, but i could see their latest release in a dance context.

Djay Raare
05-28-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
Current pop? I'd say that Justin Timberlake track...it's a great dance track. great jam graemlins/thumbsup.gif you picked out I would play this jam my self.

Djay Raare
05-28-2003, 08:14 AM
I like to mess around & play some DOORS with my sets havent done it latetly also some disco & pink floyd. :D

erd
05-28-2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Alfonso aka DjRaare:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
Current pop? I'd say that Justin Timberlake track...it's a great dance track. great jam graemlins/thumbsup.gif you picked out I would play this jam my self. </font>[/QUOTE]True. Kind of the same vibe that Michael Jackson's "Rock Your (my?) World" had.

Peace,

Gerd

falko
05-28-2003, 08:49 AM
this is a great question i think!

although many talk about playing "anything," as long as it's "good music," this does not seem to really be the case...

and it's doesn't count to point to the OLD tracks that DJ heroes used to play 20 years ago... these are already part of the deep house "canon," so to speak, and are not "diverse" or "out of the ordinary" in any sense...

as far as i can tell, there seem to be very few DJs who incorporate a diverse set of MODERN/NEW songs and artists into their sets...

francois k
giles peterson
?????

i don't necessarily view "diversity" as a virture... i don't mind listening to "house" (broadly definied) all night and hip hop or whatever at other times...

but what is it that prevents the mixture of hip hop and house for example? have both gone to such stylistic extremes that they aren't compatible? what about rock? have the underlying rhythms/structures changed?

i wonder...

[ May 28, 2003, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: falko ]

Walter M. Jones
05-29-2003, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by gj:

The only ones I could think of are Zoot Woman with the original version of "It's Automatic"

Peace,

Gerd Have you heard the dance mix to "Living in a Magazine"? I believe DFA is doing the closest thing like that these days. Peace.

Jolyon
05-30-2003, 03:17 AM
The Bees.

Mah'chew
05-30-2003, 03:31 AM
Neptunes be running things in this pop/hip-hop/dance vain - mad talented, I even like that N.E.R.D shit...

What is N*E*R*D? The Neptunes are who we are and N*E*R*D is what we do. The Neptunes are me and Chad producing and making music for other people. N*E*R*D is me, Chad and Shay, a friend from where we live, Virginia. It's just us; it's our life. N*E*R*D is just a basic belief, man. People's energies are made of their souls. When you die, that energy may disperse but it isn't destroyed. Energy cannot be destroyed. It can manifest in a different way but even then it's like their souls are going somewhere. If it's going to heaven or hell or even if it's going into a fog or somewhere in the atmosphere to lurk unbeknownst to itself, it's going somewhere.


This album is like a life soundtrack. It's a diary of shit we've been through over the last year or two. We're just trying to express ourselves as colorful as possible, as musical as possible. That's what we do, what we've always done. At first, people didn't understand what we were trying to do. I'm talking way back when we were all growing up in Virginia. So we just made our tracks. We always had a distinct sound and people didn't get it at first, especially when we were producing for other people. I guess the sound we had was mainly for our group, our movement. Eventually, people began to realize the sound. Since then we've made a lot of records for other people. When you make records for a lot of people, you have to make records you like to hear them on and they would like to hear themselves on - but then push them to a limit. When you make records for other people you have to take so many things into consideration. But when you're making records for yourself, you already know who you are; you can go as far deep into music as you can go without running into time. You can hold your breath for as long as you can and then come up for air and then go dive into another part of the pool, another part of life.


The outstanding rule with us is "Follow Your Spirit." It's what you put forth when you're making the music, so you gotta follow that instinct God's given you, that internal compass. If you stick with that, it won't matter if 9 times out of 10 your work doesn't go to number one. Just follow your spirit. Things go in cycles and I just hope me and Chad, when the cycles start to turn, we can create something else. Go in different directions. That's what our hopes are, to spread the same mentality we have with making music into other situations in life besides music. We're making music right now to change the world 'cause the world is ****ed up. There's a lot of cool things going on right now but there's a landfill of ****ed up things about life, man. People don't realize. They don't know the true reasons for their existence and their being, they don't know how they got there, they don't know who put them there, what they're supposed to do. They don't know the meaning. We are trying to show people what it is they feel like they're missing, what it is they feel like they're looking for.


That's why we titled the album IN SEARCH OF…. We want to show you what you might be looking for and, if you don't find it, hopefully this is the first brick in the yellow-brick road to your destiny. IN SEARCH OF… seems like a bland title, but for us it's In search of love. In search of happiness. In search of smiling. In search of that bitch with the big ass. In search of the answer to why my brother smokes crack. It's all of that; it's about being open. We always wanted to do an album on our own, even when we first got discovered by Teddy Riley at our high school talent show. I used to rap back then, I wasn't singing. Chad and I met in the 7th grade [when] we were in the music program together. Chad was just cool. He was a cool mother****er. He's cool with being different and not most people are. Same with Shay, whom I met in school, too. I knew his older cousin and when he moved away, me and Shay just sort of hung out. He's cool, too, and he sings on this record and helped write some of the songs. When you listen to us, you'll look and say, "Wow, he really said that? They're not really held down by the gun-slinging, ball-grabbing, Mercedes Benz-driving shit." We ain't stereotypes, you know? We grew up around all those different stereotypes in Virginia and out of that we gained awareness. Awareness of diversity.


We call ourselves N*E*R*D because we have a different view of life. A nerd is someone who wants to be cool to everybody but it's not his fault he's witty and smart and his social skills aren't the best. If you ever listen to a nerd speak about their experiences in high school, they tell an ill story. They have an ill perspective because of the shit they've been through. You ask the average person, the kind of people that would tease nerds in high school, you ask them what their life is like and they'll give this bullshit, lame boring ass story you'll snore to. I don't mind being called a nerd. We are the people who are proud of being smart, being witty and being clever when everyone else doesn't understand. That's what we do, that's the flag we're raising and waving.


We're influenced by so much, from Stevie Wonder to Steely Dan, Donny Hathaway to America. I wanted to sing like the guy from America when I was younger and I tried to imitate it on this record. And Queen is the shit. I love classic rock. It's all that, man. Those artists didn't give a shit. The music spoke to you. My family would move around a lot so instead of just hearing Kool & The Gang and Earth, Wind & Fire and The Spinners, I was hearing Lynyrd Skynrd and AC/DC because we lived right by the Renegades, the Hell's Angels. When the new wave shit came around I was listening to things like Tears For Fears.


That's why N*E*R*D is from the heart. When I say the heart, it's like, if you spread your arms out and you put hip-hop in one hand, all the syncopation and hi-hats and drums, and in the other you put all the feeling and psychedelics of classic rock of the '70s. Somewhere in the middle, where they meet is right near the heart. That's where you'll find N*E*R*D - the heart. That's a perfect point of existence for N*E*R*D.


Yours in spirit


Pharrell, Chad & Shay

N*E*R*D

erd
05-30-2003, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by gj:

The only ones I could think of are Zoot Woman with the original version of "It's Automatic"

Peace,

Gerd Have you heard the dance mix to "Living in a Magazine"? I believe DFA is doing the closest thing like that these days. Peace. </font>[/QUOTE]No, I haven't. Was it released on a 12-Inch?

Gerd

kuhn
05-30-2003, 07:54 AM
in a house set I havent really spin any modern pop music, but I like playing talking heads also (someone mentioned this early in the thread), that 'liquid people' (I think they did it) bootleg from a year or 2 ago still does it with the 'crowd' here. of course I'd play stuff like Mr Scruff's sweet smoke for example, not really house, but its got a house feeling to it...

concerning pop music I tend to find that everything I like is produced by the neptunes (anyone else feels like this ?)

Martin Red
05-30-2003, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Christopher L. Aquilo:
why not, play anything - be unpredictable. It's a shame the crowd are usually really ****ing predictable, but I suppose that depends on location.

Linedog
05-30-2003, 08:44 AM
I would throw something that wasn't necessarily classified as house. Maybe to shake things up, or to enhance, but mostly to introduce new elements to the set. I don't think we should be all too predictable with our sets. As a dancer I really dislike the way DJ's play the latest batch of tunes or the standard classic/house set. I want to go on a journey, and a new one most of the time.

Linedog
05-30-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
Don't sleep on "C Is for Cookie" by Oscar The Grouch......JMJ Ah yes.. I REMEMBER!!! My cousin had it in his crate when it first came out. I thought he was nuts. He played it and I was like F*CK*NG SH*T* it was nuts....

Walter M. Jones
05-30-2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Linedog:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Don't sleep on "C Is for Cookie" by Oscar The Grouch......JMJ Ah yes.. I REMEMBER!!! My cousin had it in his crate when it first came out. I thought he was nuts. He played it and I was like F*CK*NG SH*T* it was nuts.... </font>[/QUOTE]Didn't Larry Levan have something to do with that record?

Ken1015
05-30-2003, 02:24 PM
I've been downloading David Bowie tunes the last couple of days (from a subscription service) and because of this thread, the next time I play a party, I'm absolutely going to drop some DB. The man has some freakin' unbelievable music.

Linedog
05-30-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Linedog:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Don't sleep on "C Is for Cookie" by Oscar The Grouch......JMJ Ah yes.. I REMEMBER!!! My cousin had it in his crate when it first came out. I thought he was nuts. He played it and I was like F*CK*NG SH*T* it was nuts.... </font>[/QUOTE]Didn't Larry Levan have something to do with that record? </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, I believe that was his first remix job on a commercial track. He was THAT known in the city that PBS asked him to do a disco cover. LOL

Linedog
05-30-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Soulful1015:
I've been downloading David Bowie tunes the last couple of days (from a subscription service) and because of this thread, the next time I play a party, I'm absolutely going to drop some DB. The man has some freakin' unbelievable music. At the Shelter Timmy played several DB tunes.

Linedog
05-30-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Linedog:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Soulful1015:
I've been downloading David Bowie tunes the last couple of days (from a subscription service) and because of this thread, the next time I play a party, I'm absolutely going to drop some DB. The man has some freakin' unbelievable music. At the Shelter Timmy played several DB tunes. </font>[/QUOTE]Not to mention Wham, careless whispers & all that she wants..

socratez
05-31-2003, 04:32 AM
I saw kids breakdancing on 1984 by DB a couple of days ago.


Originally posted by Linedog:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Soulful1015:
I've been downloading David Bowie tunes the last couple of days (from a subscription service) and because of this thread, the next time I play a party, I'm absolutely going to drop some DB. The man has some freakin' unbelievable music. At the Shelter Timmy played several DB tunes. </font>[/QUOTE]