for the pro war dolts

[The Buddy Love Show]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=535&ncid=535&e=7&u=/ap/20030530/ap_on_re_eu/wolfowitz_iraq_8


next time ask for a double serving of kool aid too

morons

[The Buddy Love Show]

Wolfowitz's comments followed a statement by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who suggested this week that Saddam might have destroyed his banned weapons before the war began.


i included this quote from the above story for added emphasis and to point out my absolute contempt for the many prowar a$$holes who were spouting the party line

whats wrong smart boys cat got your tongue..or are you realizing that your true calling in life is as cannon fodder feebs?

[Dolemite73]

I am not and was never pro-war. I just got back from Iraq, so I think I am truly one of the only folks on DHP who can speak about what it was like. Now anyone who can sit back and really think about the war, knows it was never about WMD. It was about serving our needs(oil) and Dubya handling a personal score with Saddam. I for one was totally against the war. Yet, when duty called, I had to do what I had to do.
Its tragic that Americans died over there. They are still dying. I ask myself everyday, why did they die? Now on the flipside, the Iraqi people were living wretched lives. They were suffering. And Saddam and his cronies were some sadistic mutha****as. They needed to die a quick death. Was that our(USA) job to do it? I dont know. But were those of us over there doing our duty wrong or worse yet cannon fodder? No we werent. We were just Americans doing our jobs for a ****ed up administration.

[ May 30, 2003, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: Dolemite73 ]

[The Buddy Love Show]

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
I am not and was never pro-war. I just got back from Iraq, so I think I am truly one of the only folks on DHP who can speak about what it was like. Now anyone who can sit back and really think about the war, knows it was never about WMD. It was about serving our needs(oil) and Dubya handling a personal score with Saddam. I for one was totally against the war. Yet, when duty called, I had to do what I had to do.
Its tragic that Americans died over there. They are still dying. I ask myself everyday, why did they die? Now on the flipside, the Iraqi people were living wretched lives. They were suffering. And Saddam and his cronies were some sadistic mutha****as. They needed to die a quick death. Was that our(USA) job to do it? I dont know. But were those of us over there doing our duty wrong or worse yet cannon fodder? No we werent. We were just Americans doing our jobs for a ****ed up administration. i'm glad this administration did not waste your life or health

i also am glad that you realize that we all have a right to our opinions and to fight what we each think is the fight for justice (after all our constitution means nothing and is not worth defending if we can't have dissent)

now get the fucjk out of the service afore this asshole marches you into iran

peace and blessings ( i really am glad you made it back alive)

[Dolemite73]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
I am not and was never pro-war. I just got back from Iraq, so I think I am truly one of the only folks on DHP who can speak about what it was like. Now anyone who can sit back and really think about the war, knows it was never about WMD. It was about serving our needs(oil) and Dubya handling a personal score with Saddam. I for one was totally against the war. Yet, when duty called, I had to do what I had to do.
Its tragic that Americans died over there. They are still dying. I ask myself everyday, why did they die? Now on the flipside, the Iraqi people were living wretched lives. They were suffering. And Saddam and his cronies were some sadistic mutha****as. They needed to die a quick death. Was that our(USA) job to do it? I dont know. But were those of us over there doing our duty wrong or worse yet cannon fodder? No we werent. We were just Americans doing our jobs for a ****ed up administration. i'm glad this administration did not waste your life or health

i also am glad that you realize that we all have a right to our opinions and to fight what we each think is the fight for justice (after all our constitution means nothing and is not worth defending if we can't have dissent)

now get the fucjk out of the service afore this asshole marches you into iran

peace and blessings ( i really am glad you made it back alive) </font>[/QUOTE]I feel you man.....but sadly, this has been my career for 12 long years. And I just cant throw that away right now....All I can do is hope and pray thing dont get worse. These ****ers are some blood-thirsty ****s. I am with you on that.

[The Buddy Love Show]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
I am not and was never pro-war. I just got back from Iraq, so I think I am truly one of the only folks on DHP who can speak about what it was like. Now anyone who can sit back and really think about the war, knows it was never about WMD. It was about serving our needs(oil) and Dubya handling a personal score with Saddam. I for one was totally against the war. Yet, when duty called, I had to do what I had to do.
Its tragic that Americans died over there. They are still dying. I ask myself everyday, why did they die? Now on the flipside, the Iraqi people were living wretched lives. They were suffering. And Saddam and his cronies were some sadistic mutha****as. They needed to die a quick death. Was that our(USA) job to do it? I dont know. But were those of us over there doing our duty wrong or worse yet cannon fodder? No we werent. We were just Americans doing our jobs for a ****ed up administration. i'm glad this administration did not waste your life or health

i also am glad that you realize that we all have a right to our opinions and to fight what we each think is the fight for justice (after all our constitution means nothing and is not worth defending if we can't have dissent)

now get the fucjk out of the service afore this asshole marches you into iran

peace and blessings ( i really am glad you made it back alive) </font>[/QUOTE]ps...i have to disagree on one point, unfortunately, unless you are wealthy, in the USA, we are all cannon fodder only we don't recognize it cause we are part of the military/industrial/entertainment matrix (as attested to in the why i like FOX news thread)

[Dolemite73]

Thats true....

[The Buddy Love Show]

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
I am not and was never pro-war. I just got back from Iraq, so I think I am truly one of the only folks on DHP who can speak about what it was like. Now anyone who can sit back and really think about the war, knows it was never about WMD. It was about serving our needs(oil) and Dubya handling a personal score with Saddam. I for one was totally against the war. Yet, when duty called, I had to do what I had to do.
Its tragic that Americans died over there. They are still dying. I ask myself everyday, why did they die? Now on the flipside, the Iraqi people were living wretched lives. They were suffering. And Saddam and his cronies were some sadistic mutha****as. They needed to die a quick death. Was that our(USA) job to do it? I dont know. But were those of us over there doing our duty wrong or worse yet cannon fodder? No we werent. We were just Americans doing our jobs for a ****ed up administration. i'm glad this administration did not waste your life or health

i also am glad that you realize that we all have a right to our opinions and to fight what we each think is the fight for justice (after all our constitution means nothing and is not worth defending if we can't have dissent)

now get the fucjk out of the service afore this asshole marches you into iran

peace and blessings ( i really am glad you made it back alive) </font>[/QUOTE]I feel you man.....but sadly, this has been my career for 12 long years. And I just cant throw that away right now....All I can do is hope and pray thing dont get worse. These ****ers are some blood-thirsty ****s. I am with you on that. </font>[/QUOTE]i feel you too bro....hopefully this action will sate the bloodlust rampant in this administration

once more

peace

[Dolemite73]

Somebody has to be in the military man. And sadly its usually the lower and middle class that have to serve. A lot of good Americans died over there. And these bastards have thier blood on thier hands....

[The Buddy Love Show]

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
Somebody has to be in the military man. And sadly its usually the lower and middle class that have to serve. A lot of good Americans died over there. And these bastards have thier blood on thier hands.... you are right...someone has to do it

my problem is that i feel we wasted a lot of lives and for what?...are we going to liberate all peoples living under ****ed up regimes?..millions of niggers ( oops i mean Africans) live under the jackboot and die every day ...will we save them?

it seems to me that the policy of containing iraq was working and that this administration has lied about the reasons for our involvement from day one

i actually cry bitter tears cause folks are so stupid that they won't be outraged by the brazen statements and acknowledgements of llies that are now coming rom this administration

WHERE IS THE ANGER?

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?

DO WE ALL GO TO THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE MEEKLY?

i'm not anti war just anti bullshit

[Dolemite73]

Man we are in complete agreement. 1 million African were killed in Rwanda in the mid 90's. What did we do about it. Not a goddamed thing. Why? Because there is no oil, gold, etc.... in Rwanda. Its a crying damn shamed how hypocritical our foreign policy is.

[Dolemite73]

The one good thing about my combat experience over there was watching the utter elation of the Iraqi people that we had freed them. It tempered a terrible experience a tiny bit.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
The one good thing about my combat experience over there was watching the utter elation of the Iraqi people that we had freed them. It tempered a terrible experience a tiny bit. I heard on NPR news that a captain in the Iraqi Army earned the equivalent of $30 a month and still lived in poverty. Now, he is able to afford a refrigerator, washing machine, and TV.

[ May 30, 2003, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Lincoln ]

[The Buddy Love Show]

Originally posted by Lincoln:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
The one good thing about my combat experience over there was watching the utter elation of the Iraqi people that we had freed them. It tempered a terrible experience a tiny bit. I heard on NPR news that a captain in the Iraqi Army earned the equivalent of $30 a month and still lived in poverty. Now, he is able to afford a refrigerator, washing machine, and TV. </font>[/QUOTE]and ancient mesopatamian art to boot

[Bold Soul]

Hey Mark - I'm pro-War and I don't give a **** if you don't like it.

"Cisco Kid", "Spill the Wine" - that's good shit, man!

Bloody peacenik - lay off War! Best music of the 70s!

[The Buddy Love Show]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Hey Mark - I'm pro-War and I don't give a **** if you don't like it.

"Cisco Kid", "Spill the Wine" - that's good shit, man!

Bloody peacenik - lay off War! Best music of the 70s! deliver the word, baby

[mdpm99]

Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato

[martino]

Thank you for your insight dolemite.

[Dolemite73]

I am still coming to grips with what I saw and experienced over there. I am very conflicted with how I feel. Plus looking at my fellow US Marines bleeding and dying has had a profound impact on my life.

[mdpm99]

to: Dolemite73

Welcome home. Hopefully one day mankind will find that loving their children is more important than hating one another. Perhaps peace will then prevail.

d

[Dolemite73]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
to: Dolemite73

Welcome home. Hopefully one day mankind will find that loving their children is more important than hating one another. Perhaps peace will then prevail.

d Thanks David. I agree. Love should truly be the message.

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
to: Dolemite73

Welcome home. Hopefully one day mankind will find that loving their children is more important than hating one another. Perhaps peace will then prevail.

d Thanks David. I agree. Love should truly be the message. </font>[/QUOTE]How incredibly courageous that you, in your position for 12 years, have decided not to rationalize away these issues. That you remain a free thinking being is truly humbling, Dolemite.

Thanks for all your insights and courage. You are indeed mighty!

[Dolemite73]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
to: Dolemite73

Welcome home. Hopefully one day mankind will find that loving their children is more important than hating one another. Perhaps peace will then prevail.

d Thanks David. I agree. Love should truly be the message. </font>[/QUOTE]How incredibly courageous that you, in your position for 12 years, have decided not to rationalize away these issues. That you remain a free thinking being is truly humbling, Dolemite.

Thanks for all your insights and courage. You are indeed mighty! </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks Bold. There is no rationalizing that war man. It was plan wrong. I was truly caught between a ock and a hard place. My feelings of duty and the illegality of the decision to invade Iraq truly conflicted my thoughts.

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
to: Dolemite73

Welcome home. Hopefully one day mankind will find that loving their children is more important than hating one another. Perhaps peace will then prevail.

d Thanks David. I agree. Love should truly be the message. </font>[/QUOTE]How incredibly courageous that you, in your position for 12 years, have decided not to rationalize away these issues. That you remain a free thinking being is truly humbling, Dolemite.

Thanks for all your insights and courage. You are indeed mighty! </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks Bold. There is no rationalizing that war man. It was plan wrong. I was truly caught between a ock and a hard place. My feelings of duty and the illegality of the decision to invade Iraq truly conflicted my thoughts. </font>[/QUOTE]Wonderful! Friction for growth! The wisdom you are gaining by reflecting on this is so profound, man. Insight is foresight, or, as a cab driver told me once, "You got to go thru somethin' to know somethin'."

I have total faith in you, man. Such a powerful level of wisdom awaits.

[Dolemite73]

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
to: Dolemite73

Welcome home. Hopefully one day mankind will find that loving their children is more important than hating one another. Perhaps peace will then prevail.

d Thanks David. I agree. Love should truly be the message. </font>[/QUOTE]How incredibly courageous that you, in your position for 12 years, have decided not to rationalize away these issues. That you remain a free thinking being is truly humbling, Dolemite.

Thanks for all your insights and courage. You are indeed mighty! </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks Bold. There is no rationalizing that war man. It was plan wrong. I was truly caught between a ock and a hard place. My feelings of duty and the illegality of the decision to invade Iraq truly conflicted my thoughts. </font>[/QUOTE]Bold, check you email!

[The Buddy Love Show]

dolemite

you make me proud to participate in this board...thanks for your frank talk and the courage to make your thoughts known

[Dolemite73]

Thanks Mark. Hopefully I can help educate some people with my experiences.

[JoeB]

dolemite,

former marine here and i was wondering if you've had the chance to read "Jarhead : A Marine's Chronicle of the Gulf War and Other Battles" and if you have, how similar are your experiences compared to that of the author?

[ June 01, 2003, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: JoeB ]

[mdpm99]

What a great thread.....there is hope after all.

smile.gif

d

[Dolemite73]

Originally posted by JoeB:
dolemite,

former marine here and i was wondering if you've had the chance to read "Jarhead : A Marine's Chronicle of the Gulf War and Other Battles" and if you have, how similar are your experiences compared to that of the author? I saw that book in the book store a couple of days ago. I am going to pick it up tomorrow and try to find out how things were similar

[imported_Gman]

Dolemite, thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts on this issue. graemlins/respekt.gif

[ June 01, 2003, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Gman ]

[Dolemite73]

Originally posted by Gman:
Dolemite, thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts on this issue. graemlins/respekt.gif No problem G. What better place to talk about thing that here amongst family? I got a lot of stuff on my mind. This is a good place to share them.

[The Buddy Love Show]

it his gratifying to talk about isues without sloganeering or jingoism....what is usually missing from discussions in the US is any type of deep clear thought - it doesn't fit into 1 minute news pieves

[Cheddar]

A lickle background on Wolfy and his Posse... (http://www.jinsa.org/home/home.html)