Hannity & Colmes on FOX Network [Archive]

Cheddar

03-19-2003, 08:29 AM

It is shows like this w/ Hannity that design (yes design) public opinion. It is disgusting that this feller can emotionally railroad every valid thought/response made by anyone who differs with the official line that Mr. Hannity so ignorantly and disrespectfully (as in loud interuptions) debates.

Then you wonder who are the 71% who participated in surveys who say they back GWB moral justification for this war. People running around stating these stats..as backup for their opinions.

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Leslie

03-19-2003, 08:32 AM

I told you, that whole network is full of phuckwits....

mdpm99

03-19-2003, 08:33 AM

That show sucks! Fair and balanced? They got to be kidding.

It is all about "what to think instead of how to think."

Like Rush Limbraug (abc talk radio) they speak only in half truths.

Oh yes, least we forget that they are also doing for the $.

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GROOVE VICTIM

03-19-2003, 08:35 AM

I watch that show along with The O'Reilly Factor, Cavoto or what ever the hail his name is, then I switch to CNN to see what they have to say about the same topics.

Don't fall for the opinionated rants the cats at Fox News are notorius for making. Just take the information and dig deeper on other news channels and the net to find the truth.

Seek and you shall find!!

Peace

Leslie

03-19-2003, 08:40 AM

I got two words - Rupert Murdoch - that alone should tell you to leave that crack alone.....

Cheddar

03-19-2003, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I watch that show along with The O'Reilly Factor, Cavoto or what ever the hail his name is, then I switch to CNN to see what they have to say about the same topics.

Don't fall for the opinionated rants the cats at Fox News are notorius for making. Just take the information and dig deeper on other news channels and the net to find the truth.

Seek and you shall find!!

Peace I am not worried about myself personally.

I worry about my fellow taxpaying citizens...who watch and absorb this shit.

Last night they had a congresswoman (name escapes me right now) who dominated Hannity if you were to examine a transcript...but through audio and video it looked and sounded like Hannity was humiliating her...

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Basecore Boy

03-19-2003, 08:50 AM

They just don't say the things you like!

Why not watch all the news coverage and listen to the radio coverage or buy short wave system and listen to other countries news broadcast.

If you only watch or listen to one you get one side.

Digiman

03-19-2003, 09:45 AM

Did anyone see the court case involving Fox News in Florida? A Fox reporter refused to use a document which she knew to be false, so they sacked her. Then, in court, the Fox lawyers claimed the First amendment - ie, that reporters had a right to lie if they so wished. Crazy. We get Fox news here in the UK on satellite. I've remarked on another thread that it is the scariest news channel i have ever seen. Esp. that Fox + Friends, pure evil.

Bill Blake

03-19-2003, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Albert Square:
Then, in court, the Fox lawyers claimed the First amendment - ie, that reporters had a right to lie if they so wished. Crazy. But they do have the right to lie and thank God the Supreme Court was wise enough on this issue to rule in their favor.

If the American people cant think critically about the information they absorb????????????

GROOVE VICTIM

03-19-2003, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Albert Square:
[qb]

If the American people cant think critically about the information they absorb???????????? This is what it all boils down to!!

Good one Jamie!!

Peace

Digiman

03-19-2003, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert Square:
Then, in court, the Fox lawyers claimed the First amendment - ie, that reporters had a right to lie if they so wished. Crazy. But they do have the right to lie and thank God the Supreme Court was wise enough on this issue to rule in their favor.

If the American people cant think critically about the information they absorb???????????? [/QUOTE]Yes but there are a lot of Americans who can't think critically about the information they absorb.

I wasn't saying the ruling was crazy, I was saying that it was crazy that a news channel (and lets not forget by their admission a 'fair and balanced' news channel) should actually use that as a defence. Any news should be reported as fact.

So if Fox news reported that a nuclear missile had been fired at the city you lived in, but it was a lie, you'd presumably be OK with that because they had the right to say what they wanted.

Of course Fox would have the right to say that, but they have also have a resposibiliy to report the truth.

GROOVE VICTIM

03-19-2003, 11:17 AM

Who's fault is it when the people "absorb" BS and fail to seek out the truth?

no more excuses

Digiman

03-19-2003, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Who's fault is it when the people "absorb" BS and fail to seek out the truth?

no more excuses Well obviously its the absorber of the information. However, with Fox News being the highest rated news channel in the US, there's obviously a lot of people there that can't differentiate between lies + the truth.

GROOVE VICTIM

03-19-2003, 11:44 AM

It seems to me that there's more attention being focused on the fact that the Fox News Network has conservative point of view rather than focusing on what's going on in the world as we speak. The one thing that I hear on this channel throughout out the day in a subliminal fashion is this:

I've made it, so why can't you!!!???

For years the major networks and CNN have always had a liberal point of view and no one seems to be bickering about any of those channels. Now when these same networks start shying away from movie stars and rock stars' political views because of the amount of loot invested into broadcasting this war, I really wonder who's telling the truth. No matter what channel you're watching, newspaper or website you're reading, there's always two sides to every story.

Again, no more excuses, seek and you shall find.

Peace

[ March 19, 2003, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: GROOVE VICTIM ]

Digiman

03-19-2003, 11:49 AM

I don't mind if Fox has a right-wing view or not, however, I am allowed to disagree with what they say, and I am allowed to disagree with the fact that they 'bend' the truth a little.

In fact, its a good thing that all political view-points are covered in the media. Left, centre and right should all have a voice in the media.

Leslie

03-19-2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Albert Square:

In fact, its a good thing that all political view-points are covered in the media. Left, centre and right should all have a voice in the media. [/QB]The unfortunate part is that all views are not given equal access on national television, which is still where a majority of people get their information.

Digiman

03-19-2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Leslie:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert Square:

In fact, its a good thing that all political view-points are covered in the media. Left, centre and right should all have a voice in the media. The unfortunate part is that all views are not given equal access on national television, which is still where a majority of people get their information. [/QB][/QUOTE]I saw an interesting article that was saying that traffic on UK news sites was up by 20-30 points and most of the traffic was coming from US computers. ie People in the US were turning to news sites who weren't afraid to raise doubts about the war or the US Gov. because they felt that the US sites weren't providing this. Kind of what Dan Rather was talking about in his interview when he said the US news was too frightened about being labelled unpatriotic.

Bold Soul

03-19-2003, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Albert Square:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Who's fault is it when the people "absorb" BS and fail to seek out the truth?

no more excuses Well obviously its the absorber of the information. However, with Fox News being the highest rated news channel in the US, there's obviously a lot of people there that can't differentiate between lies + the truth. [/QUOTE]The news isn't about truth. The value of news is ENTERTAINMENT. People don't watch Fox News for the "facts" as it were. It is for comfort and the thrill of demagoguery. It's the same as talk radio.

Cheddar

03-19-2003, 12:13 PM

The point of this thread is simple...look @ what is fed to the population..whether or not you are the type to seek out info, the truth is that the majority..GREAT MAJORITY..run around believing everything they see on the tube. What dominates on the tube??? The Official Version.

To exemplify...Americans have accepted the 9/11 story..with out proof.
Have blind faith in your parents, have blind faith in a creator/God...blind faith about 9/11 which has not been comprehensivly investigated???

Carry On.

Bold Soul

03-19-2003, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by 1343:
The point of this thread is simple...look @ what is fed to the population..whether or not you are the type to seek out info, the truth is that the majority..GREAT MAJORITY..run around believing everything they see on the tube. What dominates on the tube??? The Official Version.

To exemplify...Americans have accepted the 9/11 story..with out proof.
Have blind faith in your parents, have blind faith in a creator/God...blind faith about 9/11 which has not been comprehensivly investigated???

Carry On. Well, that was a rather, Hannity-like, Fox Newsish way to control thinking yourself, 1343. I admire your strong arm.

Leslie

03-19-2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Albert Square:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert Square:

In fact, its a good thing that all political view-points are covered in the media. Left, centre and right should all have a voice in the media. The unfortunate part is that all views are not given equal access on national television, which is still where a majority of people get their information. [/QUOTE]I saw an interesting article that was saying that traffic on UK news sites was up by 20-30 points and most of the traffic was coming from US computers. ie People in the US were turning to news sites who weren't afraid to raise doubts about the war or the US Gov. because they felt that the US sites weren't providing this. Kind of what Dan Rather was talking about in his interview when he said the US news was too frightened about being labelled unpatriotic. [/QB][/QUOTE]Speaking for myself - since 9/11 I basically only check 3 news sources BBC.com, CBSMarketwatch, and NY Times.com. I began checking BBC after being a longtime fan of their news broadcast that I watch in the a.m. on public television. They provide news from around the globe (Africa, the Americas, Asia, etc.) which is information news sources I am familiar with here in the US do not provide. So I am definitely part of that increased traffic.

Cheddar

03-19-2003, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 1343:
The point of this thread is simple...look @ what is fed to the population..whether or not you are the type to seek out info, the truth is that the majority..GREAT MAJORITY..run around believing everything they see on the tube. What dominates on the tube??? The Official Version.

To exemplify...Americans have accepted the 9/11 story..with out proof.
Have blind faith in your parents, have blind faith in a creator/God...blind faith about 9/11 which has not been comprehensivly investigated???

Carry On. Well, that was a rather, Hannity-like, Fox Newsish way to control thinking yourself, 1343. I admire your strong arm. [/QUOTE]My man...strong arm??
Just facts.

f0reverneverm0re

03-20-2003, 10:20 AM

speaking of Fox News, Oliver North is stationed in Iraq with some marines as a ride-along "reporter"--this is IRAN-CONTRA Colonel(?) Oliver North.

i like when he does that thing w/ his eyebrows and the puppy dog eyes to let you know he's being earnest.

Leslie

03-20-2003, 10:22 AM

That network is truly being run by the devil -rebuke it in the name of fair and balanced reporting.....

GROOVE VICTIM

03-20-2003, 10:27 AM

Although last night was the first night of serious matters in the Gulf, I was really puzzled by how Fox News and CNN report the news.

4:30 a.m. estFox News had a reporter in Kuwait City giving information on the attack that had ocurred earlier that night. Around the same time sirens began to sound and the reporter along with the cameraman rushed to get their gas masks on. Ollie North was viewed via Video Phone putting on his Chemical suit. The reporters at FOX Studios in New York were speaking rather dramitcally about them putting on the masks and suits.

Same time, different bat channel. CNN has one of their reporters out in Kuwait city reporting on the same subject matter. Again, the sirens go off, but he and the cameraman DO NOT put on their masks and suits and are still reporting. Both were rather calm about this situation.

Propaganda on Fox news part or is it too early to judge?

Peace

[ March 20, 2003, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: GROOVE VICTIM ]

Fletch

03-20-2003, 10:31 AM

CSPAN's the only network that's balanced. And there are folks complaining about that. Love CSPAN. Peace.

Ron LeFloor

03-21-2003, 08:23 AM

If there's anyone in need of being... uh... 'violated', it's Hannity. If for no other reason than to have that smug doughboy look wiped from his face.

Cheddar

03-21-2003, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Ron LeFloor:
If there's anyone in need of being... uh... 'violated', it's Hannity. If for no other reason than to have that smug doughboy look wiped from his face. Thank you..he never answers any questions. A loud mouth sensationalist.

Leslie

03-21-2003, 09:45 AM

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Viewers Favoring Fox News Over CNN
Fri Mar 21, 3:37 AM ET Add Entertainment - Reuters/Variety TV to My Yahoo!

By Pamela McClintock

WASHINGTON (Variety) - Continuing its winning streak, Fox News Channel outdrew CNN in their ratings rivalry as the curtain rose on the war with Iraq (news - web sites).

Fox averaged 5.8 million viewers between 9:30 p.m. EST on Wednesday and 3 a.m. EST Thursday, according to Nielsen Media Research. CNN, the only U.S. network with its own news team in Baghdad at the start of the war, drew about 5 million viewers during the same period, while MSNBC attracted 2.3 million.

President Bush (news - web sites)'s four-minute address to the nation (roughly 10:15-10:19 EST) was viewed by an average of 9.7 million on Fox News Channel and 8.5 million on CNN.

Ratings for broadcast news networks were not available Thursday due to irregular program patterns on network affiliates, Nielsen said.

During the first Persian Gulf War (news - web sites) in 1991, CNN rose to prominence for its exclusive coverage of the bombing of Baghdad. This go-round, it appears CNN will have plenty of competition.

Generally speaking, FNC has been beating CNN in overall viewing audience. Earlier this week, the news cabler drew its largest audience in history during President Bush's address to the nation Monday night.

Cheddar

04-22-2003, 10:17 AM

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Bill Blake

04-22-2003, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by 1343:
Tadowwwwww (http://www.rense.com/general37/fxin.htm) Now see, I can dig a cat like this cat daddy

SHEIK YERBOUTI

04-22-2003, 10:35 AM

Thing is, I always considered Rense.com to be just a little paranoid-leaning, but not quite wacko.

However after reading the article, I find it funny where you find the occasional grain of truth.

fred da warrior

04-22-2003, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by 1343:
Tadowwwwww (http://www.rense.com/general37/fxin.htm) Powerful piece here

Leslie

04-22-2003, 10:54 AM

"But the fact that he would choose the Tim Robbins affair to make this point is precisely why Fox television is a disturbingly twisted right-wing mutation and propaganda machine."

When you say Fox....you've said it all....

Cheddar

04-22-2003, 10:57 AM

Ignorance is surely bliss...@ least when it comes to this kinda sh*t.

SHEIK YERBOUTI

04-22-2003, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Leslie:
"But the fact that he would choose the Tim Robbins affair to make this point is precisely why Fox television is a disturbingly twisted right-wing mutation and propaganda machine."

When you say Fox....you've said it all.... You mean "Faux" news...

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Nicholas

04-22-2003, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by 1343:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 1343:
The point of this thread is simple...look @ what is fed to the population..whether or not you are the type to seek out info, the truth is that the majority..GREAT MAJORITY..run around believing everything they see on the tube. What dominates on the tube??? The Official Version.

To exemplify...Americans have accepted the 9/11 story..with out proof.
Have blind faith in your parents, have blind faith in a creator/God...blind faith about 9/11 which has not been comprehensivly investigated???

Carry On. Well, that was a rather, Hannity-like, Fox Newsish way to control thinking yourself, 1343. I admire your strong arm. [/QUOTE]My man...strong arm??
Just facts. [/QUOTE]jesus christ you are just as bad as hannity and limbaugh.

they think they are right no question, you think you are right, no question. JUST AS BAD.

Cheddar

04-22-2003, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Nicholas:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 1343:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 1343:
The point of this thread is simple...look @ what is fed to the population..whether or not you are the type to seek out info, the truth is that the majority..GREAT MAJORITY..run around believing everything they see on the tube. What dominates on the tube??? The Official Version.

To exemplify...Americans have accepted the 9/11 story..with out proof.
Have blind faith in your parents, have blind faith in a creator/God...blind faith about 9/11 which has not been comprehensivly investigated???

Carry On. Well, that was a rather, Hannity-like, Fox Newsish way to control thinking yourself, 1343. I admire your strong arm. [/QUOTE]My man...strong arm??
Just facts. [/QUOTE]jesus christ you are just as bad as hannity and limbaugh.

they think they are right no question, you think you are right, no question. JUST AS BAD. [/QUOTE]Please retort without the character assassination.
I am not even close to the level of FOX news. Hannity and Colmes (well really Hannity) do not even let others expound. But you...please do.

Hollerrrrrrrrrrr

GROOVE VICTIM

04-22-2003, 12:12 PM

Has anyone listened to Hannity's remarks with regards to the looting of the art museum in Iraq. IMO this man has no sense of cultural history whatsoever. Obviously he hasn't learned anything when two cultural icons (World Trade Center and the Pentagon) were struck. Let the Smithsonian Institute or some building containing many documents and artifacts about American History get destroyed and see what happens. He'll probably pitch a fit.

"Those terrorists have destroyed our cultural history for what?"

Then again the Oil Ministry was heavily guarded by the Marines down the street. Ya win some ya loose some, and we ain't gonna loose that building.

HAWWWGGWASSHHHHHHH

[ April 22, 2003, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: GROOVE VICTIM ]

Nicholas

04-22-2003, 12:27 PM

Sorry Cheddi, it wasnt meant to be a personal attack, but more something I notice happening. There seems to be no intelligent debate here in the US, there are only camps of people who know they are right, convinced they have the right facts and cant hear anything else.

The thing I see in common is a complete lack of responsibility. I see more and more people in America pointing the finger away from themselves. I mean thats what Fox news is right? Basically tells people they are good americans and terrorists and liberals are the source of all our society's woes. People LOVE that shit.

I think you give too much credit to people that they dont know what they are doing. This shit sells, they make ad revenue, people like that news, more news programming starts to look like FOX. welcome to america.

i hate it too. I think its resurgence is a continuation of a dangerous trend that really should have stopped on 9/11. I'm sorry I believe that 9/11 was due to AlQueda and I have read a ton of the arguments that it wasnt. The problem is that America is getting worse after 9/11 and day by day are doing things around the world that make another attack even more likely.

Anybody who watches Fox and cannot see that its severly biased subjective journalism deserves EXACTLY the administration they have.

Cheddar

04-22-2003, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Nicholas:
Sorry Cheddi, it wasnt meant to be a personal attack, but more something I notice happening. There seems to be no intelligent debate here in the US, there are only camps of people who know they are right, convinced they have the right facts and cant hear anything else.

The thing I see in common is a complete lack of responsibility. I see more and more people in America pointing the finger away from themselves. I mean thats what Fox news is right? Basically tells people they are good americans and terrorists and liberals are the source of all our society's woes. People LOVE that shit.

I think you give too much credit to people that they dont know what they are doing. This shit sells, they make ad revenue, people like that news, more news programming starts to look like FOX. welcome to america.

i hate it too. I think its resurgence is a continuation of a dangerous trend that really should have stopped on 9/11. I'm sorry I believe that 9/11 was due to AlQueda and I have read a ton of the arguments that it wasnt. The problem is that America is getting worse after 9/11 and day by day are doing things around the world that make another attack even more likely.

Anybody who watches Fox and cannot see that its severly biased subjective journalism deserves EXACTLY the administration they have. SWA, that (my reply to you) was meant to catalyze
intelligent convo..not victimizing myself...which BTW is a great way to get someone off your back.

But wait, clarify..who do I give too much credit to??

[ April 22, 2003, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: 1343 ]

Nicholas

04-22-2003, 12:39 PM

You give too much credit to all these people that you believe are being "brain-washed" and fooled.
I think it is their responsibility what they watch, that they have the freedom to watch what they want. Sure I blame FOX but I blame the people who watch and believe FOX more.

Leslie

04-22-2003, 12:44 PM

Nicholas - what do you expect when corporations own a majority of the outlets that people refer to for news in this country. You have to understand the effects that goverment deregulation (FCC) has had upon what companies can own, how much of it they can own in different markets around the country. This is what now determines what viewpoints get driven into peoples heads.
How many independent radio, television, and newspapers are left in this country compared to 5 and then 10 years ago. So no, you can't have intelligent debate because differing viewpoints are no longer economically desireable by these corporations - who BTW are tied into said administration....

Cheddar

04-22-2003, 12:46 PM

If I have made my view look like I condemn the people..I can be a big dude and say my bad (lemme look back and check first though smile.gif
I share these things to mainly show how warped the media really is. My perception of the effects of this warp-ded-ness is that voices of reason are attacked and then drowned out by forces..like Hannity.

Dj Pat

04-22-2003, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by 1343:
It is shows like this w/ Hannity that design (yes design) public opinion. It is disgusting that this feller can emotionally railroad every valid thought/response made by anyone who differs with the official line that Mr. Hannity so ignorantly and disrespectfully (as in loud interuptions) debates.

Then you wonder who are the 71% who participated in surveys who say they back GWB moral justification for this war. People running around stating these stats..as backup for their opinions.

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Fox new's network is basicly "All republican, all the time".
If you state a fact that difer's between "Billy O" and "Hand job Hannity" knowing that it;'s the truth they will go to limb to try and shoot it down with there figure's or there fact's from an unknown source or the world's famous "the poll's show line" which realy make's you wonder if you have been liveing in this world for 36 yr's such as i and i can't speak for everyone eles but ive never got a poll call or question in my life.
The only and best way to make a statement is to ignor that network.
Blue. mad1.gif

mhd

04-22-2003, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Nicholas:
The problem is that America is getting worse after 9/11 and day by day are doing things around the world that make another attack even more likely.

its a lock that we will suffer another attack

Nicholas

04-22-2003, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Leslie:
Nicholas - what do you expect when corporations own a majority of the outlets that people refer to for news in this country. You have to understand the effects that goverment deregulation (FCC) has had upon what companies can own, how much of it they can own in different markets around the country. This is what now determines what viewpoints get driven into peoples heads.
How many independent radio, television, and newspapers are left in this country compared to 5 and then 10 years ago. So no, you can't have intelligent debate because differing viewpoints are no longer economically desireable by these corporations - who BTW are tied into said administration.... I agree with you. Most of Fox News' viewers would see the above as an unequivocable victory over the liberal media.

Why is ANYONE surprised any of this is happening under a republican administration? Werent you lied to every day in the 80s?

The thing you have got to get is that the neo-conservatives believe all their rhetoric as TRUTH as much as you and I believe it is bullshit. I guarantee that Hannity believes every word that comes out of his mouth as gold.

This is the danger. there are not a bunch of puppeteers controlling all this information, pulling a fast one on america. these are all opinions that they firmly believe to be the TRUTH.

Its a big ****ing problem.

[ April 22, 2003, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Nicholas ]

Nicholas

04-22-2003, 02:19 PM

I also realise that this shit changes by only a slight degree with democrats in power but hey, thats america for you.

mhd

04-22-2003, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Nicholas:
I also realise that this shit changes by only a slight degree with democrats in power but hey, thats america for you. not really, there is a big difference between an administration influenced by John Ashcroft and one influenced by Tim Robbins

Nicholas

04-22-2003, 03:07 PM

right but corporate america still very much rules under either administration.

mhd

04-22-2003, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Nicholas:
right but corporate america still very much rules under either administration. they only rule to the extent we allow them to rule. again, there is a big difference between an administration that protects the environment and advocates on behalf of conservation versus one that advocates drilling in alaska. these are distinctions that do indeed make a difference, and the more people make blanket generalized inaccurate statements only increases apathy which further empowers the status quo

DJ Timmy Richardson

04-22-2003, 05:42 PM

His TV show is irrelevant..Gets no ratings to speak of...His Am Radio show gets a 4.6. Tops in the afternoon on Am...Last week Conyers was makin him look like a fool..which isnt that hard to do./

djmarbll

04-22-2003, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Thing is, I always considered Rense.com to be just a little paranoid-leaning, but not quite wacko.

However after reading the article, I find it funny where you find the occasional grain of truth. Rense.com is definitely left-of-center with their UFO theories and the like. However, they offer an angle the mainstream media explicitly stray away from, and it often makes more sense than what Limbaugh, and Hannity offer.

djmarbll

04-22-2003, 07:01 PM

djmarbll

04-22-2003, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Nicholas:
I also realise that this shit changes by only a slight degree with democrats in power but hey, thats america for you. But at least with a democrat, we can get our ducsik on. icon_rofl.gif

djmarbll

04-22-2003, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by Nicholas:
right but corporate america still very much rules under either administration. This is the point most Americans overlook. Democrat or Republican, you're still dealing with a bunch of rich and powerful white men with different points of view. Malcolm X once said (and I'm paraphrasing) you can have a Doberman, an Irish Setter, and a German Shephard, but they're all dogs.

mhd

04-22-2003, 11:28 PM

vastly different dogs

Fletch

04-23-2003, 02:10 AM

On Hardball, Chris Matthews, discussing the Rick Santorium drama, talked about how all of the right wingers now go to Fox to talk their junk because they "feel safe there", and won't get attacked.

On another network, I am astounded how conservative callers attack C-SPAN's telephone line system (Democrat line, Republican line, and Others), claiming that C-SPAN makes it look like the war views are divided 50-50 among the nation. They claim that "75-80 percent of America supports the President". C-SPAN obviously formats that for fairness and equal time, something other networks don't do. Peace.