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Basecore Boy
04-30-2003, 07:25 AM
I think DJ's need more balance. I'm tired of going to clubs and no one is dancing. More standing around saying that track is hot.
I don't think your new music program is helping dance music.
My two cents.
People standing around just looking tends to get on my nerves too. Dance ya mo fo's! Dance! http://deephousepage.com/smilies/spinning.gif
richierich
04-30-2003, 07:38 AM
Nope it's the opposite.. people are dancing.
Jamie 3:26
04-30-2003, 08:18 AM
Some folks know how to play music...and some know how to beat it.There's the difference.
Keith Blackstone
04-30-2003, 08:21 AM
Never had a prob playing new stuff or old stuff, it's all in "how" you play it and present it to your audience...
Blame the DJ, not the "new music program"...
Bran (Bad attitude and from London)
04-30-2003, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I think DJ's need more balance. I'm tired of going to clubs and no one is dancing. More standing around saying that track is hot.
I don't think your new music program is helping dance music.
My two cents. If the Music is good does it matter as to if its old or new? I say no. Maybe you need to get a new crowd.
ramar
04-30-2003, 08:25 AM
the new saying goes "look like no-one is dancing" graemlins/rofl.gif
TurntableSoul
04-30-2003, 08:40 AM
Who you're playing for is a big factor too. I played last night at my spot here in Atlanta and it's been the same thing, few people dancing. I just started this Tuesday night party and I've been playing mostly new stuff. People have liked my stuff but they won't necessarily dance to it because they're not familiar with it. And I've found that its like clockwork - if I play remixes of radio cuts like Jill Scott, Angie Stone, Maxwell or Marj J. Blige, people dance.
Its frustrating that some people will only respond to what they've heard 1,000 times and won't allow themsevles to be open to new music.
Damn R&B! AR15firing.gif
Jamie 3:26
04-30-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by TurntableSoul:
Who you're playing for is a big factor too. I played last night at my spot here in Atlanta and it's been the same thing, few people dancing. I just started this Tuesday night party and I've been playing mostly new stuff. People have liked my stuff but they won't necessarily dance to it because they're not familiar with it. And I've found that its like clockwork - if I play remixes of radio cuts like Jill Scott, Angie Stone, Maxwell or Marj J. Blige, people dance.
Its frustrating that some people will only respond to what they've heard 1,000 times and won't allow themsevles to be open to new music.
Damn R&B! AR15firing.gif Naw bruh.Better yet,I'll let you figure it out.I am tired of giving away the formula.It's quite simple.This is where experience comes in.I have rocked spots in country ass Baton Rouge,filled with folks with curls and gold fronts.It can be done...it can be done... ;)
DJ Rated M
04-30-2003, 08:56 AM
and then you always have the non-dancin djs who just stand around with their arms folded holding up the wall and the kats who just want to be seen and taking up space....
tamir........you do have a point....
I'll share a little secret with you this morning. It's not the new music (unless it sucks) that causes people not to dance. It's the inept DJ attempting to force the music down his/her crowd's throats that cause this reaction. You gotta know what to play and when to play it. I have no problem getting people to dance to new music, and my approach is very simple. Break into something new between two tracks that are guaranteed to hold the floor. Try it in between the two hottest classics you've got. Programming is the key, and the new track had better fit, but it can be done. Just because you can beat-mix two tracks together doesn't mean you're a DJ. It's all about programming and knowing when to spring the new music on 'em. Part of the problem with some of the new music is that alot of sounds the same, especially the noodley, flutey, jazzy stuff, and it's got to be played in moderation. Forget about trying to be deeper than the next guy. Being the "deepest" means nothing to people trying to get their groove on, and being the "deepest' doesn't get you paid either. Play smart.....JMJ smile.gif
Cheddar
04-30-2003, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
I'll share a little secret with you this morning. It's not the new music (unless it sucks) that causes people not to dance. It's the inept DJ attempting to force the music down his/her crowd's throats that cause this reaction. You gotta know what to play and when to play it. I have no problem getting people to dance to new music, and my approach is very simple. Break into something new between two tracks that are guaranteed to hold the floor. Try it in between the two hottest classics you've got. Programming is the key, and the new track had better fit, but it can be done. Just because you can beat-mix two tracks together doesn't mean you're a DJ. It's all about programming and knowing when to spring the new music on 'em. Part of the problem with some of the new music is that alot of sounds the same, especially the noodley, flutey, jazzy stuff, and it's got to be played in moderation. Forget about trying to be deeper than the next guy. Being the "deepest" means nothing to people trying to get their groove on, and being the "deepest' doesn't get you paid either. Play smart.....JMJ smile.gif Good one.
Dont forget to mention the radio music. People have to realize that if it isnt YOUR crowd..why front as though it is?
Sharp Eye Washington
04-30-2003, 09:27 AM
Too many damn DJ's...Not enough music lovers.
Jamie 3:26
04-30-2003, 09:38 AM
Thanks JMJ.I have said that so many times before.Yo old ass is wise... graemlins/rofl.gif
The Buddy Love Show
04-30-2003, 09:38 AM
i hear this is a really crucial problem for Iraqi DJs right now....although dancing is hard when your limbs have been blown off...but dancing to new joints - really tough
Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Thanks JMJ.I have said that so many times before.Yo old ass is wise... graemlins/rofl.gif We're gonna put on a clinic Saturday night at the RELAX party!!......JMJ graemlins/thumbsup.gif
ramar
04-30-2003, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
I'll share a little secret with you this morning. It's not the new music (unless it sucks) that causes people not to dance. It's the inept DJ attempting to force the music down his/her crowd's throats that cause this reaction. You gotta know what to play and when to play it. I have no problem getting people to dance to new music, and my approach is very simple. Break into something new between two tracks that are guaranteed to hold the floor. Try it in between the two hottest classics you've got. Programming is the key, and the new track had better fit, but it can be done. Just because you can beat-mix two tracks together doesn't mean you're a DJ. It's all about programming and knowing when to spring the new music on 'em. Part of the problem with some of the new music is that alot of sounds the same, especially the noodley, flutey, jazzy stuff, and it's got to be played in moderation. Forget about trying to be deeper than the next guy. Being the "deepest" means nothing to people trying to get their groove on, and being the "deepest' doesn't get you paid either. Play smart.....JMJ smile.gif graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Originally posted by TurntableSoul:
Who you're playing for is a big factor too. I played last night at my spot here in Atlanta and it's been the same thing, few people dancing. I just started this Tuesday night party and I've been playing mostly new stuff. People have liked my stuff but they won't necessarily dance to it because they're not familiar with it. And I've found that its like clockwork - if I play remixes of radio cuts like Jill Scott, Angie Stone, Maxwell or Marj J. Blige, people dance.
Its frustrating that some people will only respond to what they've heard 1,000 times and won't allow themsevles to be open to new music.
Damn R&B! AR15firing.gif You are fighting yourself, plain and simple. If your crowd likes remixed R&B, give them what they want. Try throwing in something new and hot between Heather Headley and Angie Stone. Forcing "your" sound on people is a no-win situation for you and them. Until you win the crowd over, they could care less about you and "your sound". It's all about having a good time. Once you've got the floor moving, they'll let you play with them a bit. Work with what you have......JMJ
Basecore Boy
04-30-2003, 09:54 AM
DJ's start thinking about the patrons and not how deep you can get.
People just want to dance.
50/50 always works.
DJ's are you playin for other DJ's or the patrons.
[ April 30, 2003, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]
Jamie 3:26
04-30-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Thanks JMJ.I have said that so many times before.Yo old ass is wise... graemlins/rofl.gif We're gonna put on a clinic Saturday night at the RELAX party!!......JMJ graemlins/thumbsup.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Exactly.This is gonna be fun... :D
DJJM3.COM
04-30-2003, 10:02 AM
Hire a dance group(to dance to no matter what you play) and do your thing. People will dance when they see others dance. Can't start a fire without a match.....
[ April 30, 2003, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: DJ JM3 ]
TurntableSoul
04-30-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
[/qb]You are fighting yourself, plain and simple. If your crowd likes remixed R&B, give them what they want. Try throwing in something new and hot between Heather Headley and Angie Stone. Forcing "your" sound on people is a no-win situation for you and them. Until you win the crowd over, they could care less about you and "your sound". It's all about having a good time. Once you've got the floor moving, they'll let you play with them a bit. Work with what you have......JMJ [/QB][/QUOTE]
Now don't get me wrong, I'm by no means forcing an agenda on anyone or am above playing remixes of R&B. I orginally said that folks dig what I play, I just think its gonna take some time to get this particular crowd into more than just R&B and Hip Hop, the club plays it the 6 other nights of the week and typically doesnt draw a house crowd.
No egos involved, just the newness of the music.
Originally posted by TurntableSoul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
You are fighting yourself, plain and simple. If your crowd likes remixed R&B, give them what they want. Try throwing in something new and hot between Heather Headley and Angie Stone. Forcing "your" sound on people is a no-win situation for you and them. Until you win the crowd over, they could care less about you and "your sound". It's all about having a good time. Once you've got the floor moving, they'll let you play with them a bit. Work with what you have......JMJ [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Now don't get me wrong, I'm by no means forcing an agenda on anyone or am above playing remixes of R&B. I orginally said that folks dig what I play, I just think its gonna take some time to get this particular crowd into more than just R&B and Hip Hop, the club plays it the 6 other nights of the week and typically doesnt draw a house crowd.
No egos involved, just the newness of the music. [/QB][/QUOTE]
All the more reason to be playing the house remixes of Nelly, Missy Elliot, Usher, Jill Scott, Gerald Levert, Angie Stone, etc.etc. Feed off of what they already like. Good luck!....JMJ
Tee Mallory
04-30-2003, 10:54 AM
Bottom line is you gotta read your crowd and know who you are playing to. I've been in situations where playing progressively works but for the most part, playing a strictly new music set where a majority of the tracks are unfamiliar is great when that is the theme of the function (new music seminars, dj listening sessions, etc.). The exception being if you have your own crowd and you have successfully trained them to hear new tracks one after another.
Every party that I felt was hot whether I was the dj or somebody else played and I'm out there dancing seemed to consist of programming a combination of new music and recurrents along with your classics, varying the mood and tempo throught the night. I was taught that a dj is supposed to break new music at a party but you gotta get the party started first. Get the crowd on your side then work your show. It's ok to take chances I can respect that, but if you lose your floor you gotta get back to the crowd-friendly stuff.
Personally I like to check out the veteran jocks for new ways to break new music.
djmarbll
04-30-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
I'll share a little secret with you this morning. It's not the new music (unless it sucks) that causes people not to dance. It's the inept DJ attempting to force the music down his/her crowd's throats that cause this reaction. You gotta know what to play and when to play it. I have no problem getting people to dance to new music, and my approach is very simple. Break into something new between two tracks that are guaranteed to hold the floor. Try it in between the two hottest classics you've got. Programming is the key, and the new track had better fit, but it can be done. Just because you can beat-mix two tracks together doesn't mean you're a DJ. It's all about programming and knowing when to spring the new music on 'em. Part of the problem with some of the new music is that alot of sounds the same, especially the noodley, flutey, jazzy stuff, and it's got to be played in moderation. Forget about trying to be deeper than the next guy. Being the "deepest" means nothing to people trying to get their groove on, and being the "deepest' doesn't get you paid either. Play smart.....JMJ smile.gif True dat!!! The funny thing is that most of us have hundreds of the same records, but how you play them makes a world of difference. If you're playing records and no one's dancing, you're not deejaying, you're just playing records. If you're playing records and everybody's dancing, you're still not deejaying, you're just playing records (a jukebox can do that). Play what you feel and feel what you play, but understand the game.
djmarbll
04-30-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by djmarbll:
If you're playing records and everybody's dancing, you're still not deejaying, you're just playing records (a jukebox can do that). Play what you feel and feel what you play, but understand the game. [/QB]Oops, brain fart. I meant to say if you're playing records or cd's and not blending them together, you're still not deejaying. What the f*ck do clubs buy cd players with a pitch control and $1000 mixers if the "dj" isn't doing anything more than a jukebox? Blends are your friends.
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