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The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 08:53 AM

Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me

Huey P. Freeman

12-10-2003, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me My personal belief is that while MJs relationships with these kids might be improper I don't believe it to be sexual. I don't believe he did it. I hope he learns his lesson from this. He has to be careful. He has alot to lose and alot of folks trying to get what he has.

[ December 10, 2003, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: Eargasm ]

The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me My personal belief is that while MJs relationships with these kids might be improper I don't believe it to be sexual. I don't believe he did it. I hope he learns his lesson from this. He has to be careful. He has alot to lose and alot of folks trying to get what he has. [/QUOTE]I'm with you on this.

What really burns me is that we as a group are to quick to HELP the media lynch this BROTHER....just because he's weird (very) doesn't make him a pedophile....however, i guess they need to make him one so that he can truly be the equal of the other King (Elvis)

ivanjb

12-10-2003, 09:18 AM

This case reminds me of the Nathaniel Jones case in the sense that I don't have enough information to pass a judgement and that he is automatically assumed to be a creep.

I really hope MJ is innocent.

Bill Blake

12-10-2003, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me My personal belief is that while MJs relationships with these kids might be improper I don't believe it to be sexual. I don't believe he did it. I hope he learns his lesson from this. He has to be careful. He has alot to lose and alot of folks trying to get what he has. [/QUOTE]I'm with you on this.

What really burns me is that we as a group are to quick to HELP the media lynch this BROTHER....just because he's weird (very) doesn't make him a pedophile....however, i guess they need to make him one so that he can truly be the equal of the other King (Elvis) [/QUOTE]Its not just that he is weird Mark. I mean it certainly doesnt make him guilty (if he is just hanging out with little kids) but consider this....

How many people, if they werent MJ would it have been acceptable to do this to the degree he has and for how long?

Do you think if me and you ran around our neighborhoods asking the local parents if their kids could sleep over in our beds they would be jumping for joy?

I dont give a fuck what his intentions are, he shouldt be hanging out with little kids like that cause it aint got shit to do with them, it has to do with fulfilling his own looney wants and desires, what ever that may be.

Ew!

Huey P. Freeman

12-10-2003, 09:28 AM

DaveR

12-10-2003, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me All this shows/reaffirms is that the media delivers what people are attracted to - sensationalism - exonerations are usually found on page D-19 after the society page

Huey P. Freeman

12-10-2003, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by DaveR:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me All this shows/reaffirms is that the media delivers what people are attracted to - sensationalism - exonerations are usually found on page D-19 after the society page [/QUOTE]That is so true.

the crackhouse

12-10-2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me My personal belief is that while MJs relationships with these kids might be improper I don't believe it to be sexual. I don't believe he did it. I hope he learns his lesson from this. He has to be careful. He has alot to lose and alot of folks trying to get what he has. [/QUOTE]I'm with you on this.

What really burns me is that we as a group are to quick to HELP the media lynch this BROTHER....just because he's weird (very) doesn't make him a pedophile....however, i guess they need to make him one so that he can truly be the equal of the other King (Elvis) [/QUOTE]St Magus, if you're with Eargasm on this, I don't see what is your truly point ?
What do you know about MJ to tell that you don't think he could have sexual relations with these kids ?
Not looking for trouble here as you can express your beliefs, but be careful not to counfound the neutral and the opposant camp ! Don't call for innocence before the verdict and start to protect MJ with as unreal (unvalidable ?) arguments as those who wanna see him guilty.

Anyway, the second part of your response says all about your thoughts.

D J 1 3 8

12-10-2003, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by idancetoomuch:
Don't call for innocence before the verdict and start to protect MJ with as unreal (unvalidable ?) arguments as those who wanna see him guilty.Actual, innocent before proven guilty is a foundation premise of American law.

Not always exercised, mind you, but it's on the books.

LEONARD REMIX RROY

12-10-2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me 2 Damn years and we finnaly agree on something graemlins/OLA.gif
This is not directed at Dave or BHouse either.
It appear to me that there are quite a few mice hear awaiting the pied pipper poster so they can co-sign the post just because so & so posted it.

DaveR

12-10-2003, 11:36 AM

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Bold Soul

12-10-2003, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me Took me a minute to get up to speed. You have my comment in the other thread.

Nuff respect, as always, but if MJ is so innocent, why does he fear a courtroom?

And please don't say it's because he's black. He's rich until the money runs out. THEN he's "black".

LEONARD REMIX RROY

12-10-2003, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me Took me a minute to get up to speed. You have my comment in the other thread.

Nuff respect, as always, but if MJ is so innocent, why does he fear a courtroom?

And please don't say it's because he's black. He's rich until the money runs out. THEN he's "black". [/QUOTE]Could you give out a source that states MJ is afraid of going to court...everything I have seen via news reports state that MJ & legal team want / is ready to go to court.

As for
And please don't say it's because he's black. He's rich until the money runs out. THEN he's "black". Consider this, Robert Blake was arrested for murder and his bond was 1.5 Million, MJ bond is 3 Million and formal charges have yet to be filed for some reason.

Jessy Jackson said "Rush Limbaugh is getting just what he deserve...due process under the law", "Michael is not recieving that." this was during an interview with Geraldo Rivera a few days ago.

Detroitbootybass

12-10-2003, 12:29 PM

Michael Jackson is black?!?

Detroitbootybass

12-10-2003, 12:32 PM

But, seriously... when people say his name, I see that image of him holding his child OVER the fucking balcony. As a father, this infuriates me. That, right there, is child abuse... plain and simple.

LEONARD REMIX RROY

12-10-2003, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
But, seriously... when people say his name, I see that image of him holding his child OVER the fucking balcony. As a father, this infuriates me. That, right there, is child abuse... plain and simple. Now that is gonna be a hard thing for anyone {especially a parent} to get out of their mind...

My wife asked me "What was he [MJ] thinking?" My reply was..."this little thing called NOT,,, not thinking at all."

D J 1 3 8

12-10-2003, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by LEONARD REMIX RROY:
Consider this, Robert Blake was arrested for murder and his bond was 1.5 Million, MJ bond is 3 Million and formal charges have yet to be filed for some reason.
I believe MJ has A LOT more money than Robert Blake. I think bail is set relevant to "how much can this person NOT afford to lose if they skip town".

sammyrock

12-10-2003, 01:05 PM

I still play MJ stuff even when this nonsense happened to him.I got 2 free tix to the NEVERHAND Mansion...should I go???lol :D ;)

Ken1015

12-10-2003, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
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Nuff respect, as always, but if MJ is so innocent, why does he fear a courtroom?
If MJ is so guilty, then why hasn't he been charged yet?

DJ Keith Porter

12-10-2003, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
Michael Jackson is black?!? graemlins/conf44.gif

mhd

12-10-2003, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by sammyrock:
I still play MJ stuff even when this nonsense happened to him.I got 2 free tix to the NEVERHAND Mansion...should I go???lol :D ;) yeah, just don't take seth

DJ Keith Porter

12-10-2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Ken1015:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
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Nuff respect, as always, but if MJ is so innocent, why does he fear a courtroom?
If MJ is so guilty, then why hasn't he been charged yet? [/QUOTE]Because He is a "Smooth criminal"
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/jackson.gif

SuzanneT

12-10-2003, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me My personal belief is that while MJs relationships with these kids might be improper I don't believe it to be sexual. I don't believe he did it. I hope he learns his lesson from this. He has to be careful. He has alot to lose and alot of folks trying to get what he has. [/QUOTE]I'm with you on this.

What really burns me is that we as a group are to quick to HELP the media lynch this BROTHER....just because he's weird (very) doesn't make him a pedophile....however, i guess they need to make him one so that he can truly be the equal of the other King (Elvis) [/QUOTE]Its not just that he is weird Mark. I mean it certainly doesnt make him guilty (if he is just hanging out with little kids) but consider this....

How many people, if they werent MJ would it have been acceptable to do this to the degree he has and for how long?

Do you think if me and you ran around our neighborhoods asking the local parents if their kids could sleep over in our beds they would be jumping for joy?

I dont give a fuck what his intentions are, he shouldt be hanging out with little kids like that cause it aint got shit to do with them, it has to do with fulfilling his own looney wants and desires, what ever that may be.

Ew! [/QUOTE]Jamie, I'm not attacking you and I do acknowledge that MJ is eccentric and he definitely behaves quote/unquote "like the rest of the mainstream population",but I'm curious as to why you think "he shouldn't be hanging out with little kids like that cause it aint got shit to do with them, it has to do with fulfilling his own looney wants and desires". Why is it hard to believe that his motives aren't purely altruistic? Was his whole purpose for building a hospice for young children on his property merely to lure kids to his house? And did he pick children stricken with cancer because they're weaker and can't defend themselves against a predator like him? I just find it sad that so many people judge and are judged because they don't things the way WE do them or the way WE think things should be done.
This whole child molestation thing is, was, and will always be about money and trying to destroy a man.

"A lie will travel around the world before the truth even gets is shoes on".

DaveR

12-10-2003, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by SuzanneT:
This whole child molestation thing is, was, and will always be about money and trying to destroy a man.
This whole child molestation thing will continue as long as MJ refuses to balance personal desires with common sense - as seen in the court of public opinion (which you don't have to live by, but at least show us you have a freakin' clue)

DR

SuzanneT

12-10-2003, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
But, seriously... when people say his name, I see that image of him holding his child OVER the fucking balcony. As a father, this infuriates me. That, right there, is child abuse... plain and simple. Hey I see a whole lotta dumbass parents doing stupid stuff to there kids and MJ is no exception. I see mothers walking on ice w/babies in their arms instead of in strollers or carriages, I've seen men carry babies like a sack of concrete sideways under their arms, or walking walking 1/2 a block ahead of a 2 yr old pissed off because the child can't walk any faster, or leave them home unattended while they go on vacation or to the store or to work, or heck let's feed our female children and starve the boys. There's stupidity and then there's abuse/neglect and I think there is a big difference between the two.
I don't think there is a parent alive who hasn't done something that others would consider stupid as hell.

The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by SuzanneT:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
But, seriously... when people say his name, I see that image of him holding his child OVER the fucking balcony. As a father, this infuriates me. That, right there, is child abuse... plain and simple. Hey I see a whole lotta dumbass parents doing stupid stuff to there kids and MJ is no exception. I see mothers walking on ice w/babies in their arms instead of in strollers or carriages, I've seen men carry babies like a sack of concrete sideways under their arms, or walking walking 1/2 a block ahead of a 2 yr old pissed off because the child can't walk any faster, or leave them home unattended while they go on vacation or to the store or to work, or heck let's feed our female children and starve the boys. There's stupidity and then there's abuse/neglect and I think there is a big difference between the two.
I don't think there is a parent alive who hasn't done something that others would consider stupid as hell. [/QUOTE]I've personally waited in my car while some "parent" left their kids in the car and ran into th "x" for "just a sec", just to keep an eye out...only a few weeks ago IN MY NABE a mothers car got ganked with her kid still in it...luckily the cops found the car that nite with the baby asleep inside (it was a cold nite and he could have died)

people do stupid shit EVERY day..hopefully they learn from their errors

LEONARD REMIX RROY

12-10-2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by DaveR:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by SuzanneT:
This whole child molestation thing is, was, and will always be about money and trying to destroy a man.
This whole child molestation thing will continue as long as MJ refuses to balance personal desires with common sense - as seen in the court of public opinion (which you don't have to live by, but at least show us you have a freakin' clue)

DR [/QUOTE]I Agree!

P-Flipp

12-10-2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Y'all are quick to try and condemn MJ when he is accused but when MAJOR exculpatory evidence comes out and is posted by D Mancuso and BHouse the only response is the sound of crickets

Like I said from the jump , lets hear the case before being so quick to tear the man down...But i guess its guilty until proven innocent?

You disgust me My personal belief is that while MJs relationships with these kids might be improper I don't believe it to be sexual. I don't believe he did it. I hope he learns his lesson from this. He has to be careful. He has alot to lose and alot of folks trying to get what he has. [/QUOTE]I'm with you on this.

What really burns me is that we as a group are to quick to HELP the media lynch this BROTHER....just because he's weird (very) doesn't make him a pedophile....however, i guess they need to make him one so that he can truly be the equal of the other King (Elvis) [/QUOTE]I believe MJ is innocent.You're right some people have taken the high road and presumed him guilty.I'm glad the prosecutor's case is rapidly falling part.

Detroitbootybass

12-10-2003, 08:50 PM

Some people say he is innocent... others insist that he is guilty. What makes you people blindly believe innocence/guilt without ANY factual knowledge to back up their claims? No one here is privy to the facts of this case, therefore you are all talking out of your asses.

The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
Some people say he is innocent... others insist that he is guilty. What makes you people blindly believe innocence/guilt without ANY factual knowledge to back up their claims? No one here is privy to the facts of this case, therefore you are all talking out of your asses. "...Before I talk, I should read a book" - Talking Heads

start here:
http://thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

or check Mancusos and BHouse's threads

poor thing, keep up

DaveR

12-10-2003, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
Some people say he is innocent... others insist that he is guilty. What makes you people blindly believe innocence/guilt without ANY factual knowledge to back up their claims? No one here is privy to the facts of this case, therefore you are all talking out of your asses. Oh c'mon now, this must be one of those posts to try and rile people up, and get attention for yourself ... since when do people need hardcore facts to discuss something ? ...

This is definitely a 2 Thought Scream ... smile.gif

Detroitbootybass

12-10-2003, 09:08 PM

That is just a summary (as stated by one person), no facts given. Yet you hold it out as the end-all, be-all in this case. You, nor I, have seen the FACTS and/or documents in this case.

/gulible\

The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
That is just a summary (as stated by one person), no facts given. Yet you hold it out as the end-all, be-all in this case. You, nor I, have seen the FACTS and/or documents in this case.

/gulible\ ummm..they got it from the Smoking Gun...a news organization as relevant ( and many say more) than a lot of the mainstream tabloids. And unlike the tabloids they published the actual deposition

face it..you came late to an discussion that has been ongoing for TWO DAYS, didn't know what was going on, decided to open your piehole anyway and now are trying to speak past the laces in your mouth...next time try doing some background READING so as not to look so foolish.

miss al boogie

12-10-2003, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
That is just a summary (as stated by one person), no facts given. Yet you hold it out as the end-all, be-all in this case. You, nor I, have seen the FACTS and/or documents in this case.

/gulible\ http://deephousepage.com/smilies/newbie.gif

http://deephousepage.com/smilies/therethere.gif

The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 09:43 PM

oooooh

late breaking news flash

AOL is now reporting the same thing that the Smoking Gun had up on their site and they have a link to a similiar story that was published by USA Today online

do you want some more?

DaveR

12-10-2003, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
oooooh

late breaking news flash

AOL is now reporting the same thing that the Smoking Gun had up on their site and they have a link to a similiar story that was published by USA Today online

do you want some more? What do the BCS computers say ?

The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 09:52 PM

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id+20031210105409990001

look at MJ article

The Buddy Love Show

12-10-2003, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by DaveR:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
oooooh

late breaking news flash

AOL is now reporting the same thing that the Smoking Gun had up on their site and they have a link to a similiar story that was published by USA Today online

do you want some more? What do the BCS computers say ? [/QUOTE]Da Bears!

[ December 10, 2003, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: St Magus the Reviled ]

DaveR

12-10-2003, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DaveR:
What do the BCS computers say ? Dah Bears! [/QUOTE]Chicago ? ... That means we put Michael Jordan on trial for MJ's charges, and if MJ comes out with another special talking about how he sleeps in the same bed as kids ... then we got split convictions !

DR

BHouse

12-10-2003, 10:12 PM

I said it all along that it was bull, especially when George Lopez told Entertainment Tonight in so many words he knew MJ to be innocent... I have a problem with anyone being convicted in the media, this seems to be the American justice system lately. I REALLY have a problem with people who still or once called MJ their friend and talked to the reporters how they knew he was guilty... WTF!!! What evidence led them to this conclusion...?

[ December 10, 2003, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: BHouse ]