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Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 07:54 AM
Some men are so simple…I read some of these topics and hear you go on and on about how looks aren’t everything, but the truth of the matter is, that the majority of you can’t get passed looks..ex..”Choose the Fly girl over the so-so girl” blah blah blah…Just admit it, you are shallow…This reminds me of something Ms.Rickey X said, it’s the women that are bitches who have all of you sucker asses sniffing behind her ass, treating you like shit and leaving you wimpering like an abused sick wet puppy. I have a very good girlfriend who lives in Atlanta and is what you would consider “industry beautiful” you know the kind, light skinned, long hair, skinny…blah blah blah….Every time I talk to her, there is a new man in her life a “good one” as she puts it…We call her the Runaway Fiance, this sister has been proposed to probably more times she can remember…Oh and she does not deal with the average man, Oh No, some of you sap suckers wouldn’t last a good week with her, BUT no question in my mind, you’d put yourself through the agonizing shame of thinking you are the one. I just don’t get it…I asked her why do you do these brothers like that, and she replied “Because they let me, it doesn’t pay to be a good woman, if I was as goody-too shoes as you, I probably wouldn’t have my new truck and be able to travel like I do.” I started thinking like damn, maybe she’s right, and she ended our conversation by telling me..”Girl, you care too much..”
The point of this is to understand, what really goes through your thick sculls when choosing a mate?
larry rauson
05-01-2003, 07:55 AM
I hate guys too. That's why I'm a lesbian.
Larry
Cheddar
05-01-2003, 07:58 AM
No disrespect but she sounds like a trick...a happy one at that.
Leslie
05-01-2003, 07:59 AM
Ashaki, alot of them are not ready to hear what you just said so be prepared for the backlash.....
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by 1343:
No disrespect but she sounds like a trick...a happy one at that. Now why she gotta be a trick? She's just getting what she can. Men choose her...
Cheddar
05-01-2003, 08:02 AM
The simplicity is really found in how simple a man; married, involved or single...can see a beautiful woman, admire her and if possible have an episode with her and not get all twisted with the emotions.
What is really the point...you too LES.
:D
A nice exterior is a plus, but looks fade over time. Inner beauty lasts forever, and she'd better have it or she's OUT, period. I have spoken.....JMJ biggrinangel.gif
Cheddar
05-01-2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
No disrespect but she sounds like a trick...a happy one at that. Now why she gotta be a trick? She's just getting what she can. Men choose her... </font>[/QUOTE]Sounds like she does the choosing.
Leslie
05-01-2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by 1343:
The simplicity is really found in how simple a man; married, involved or single...can see a beautiful woman, admire her and if possible have an episode with her and not get all twisted with the emotions.
What is really the point...you too LES.
:D A crock of shit and you know it.....men catch feelings too - how do you think men who dog women got that way - they got their feelings hurt in the 6th grade and never got over it.
The point is men talk about as much shit as women do and those that indicate they are not hung up on looks should kill the noise, that's a lie, you know it, I know it, etc...
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 08:19 AM
Understand I said she has been PROPOSED to so many times...I understand physical attraction, but I have to wonder if she was a couple of shades darker, hair a little nappier and she carried a few extra inches on the hip, would she get the same attention...
GROOVE VICTIM
05-01-2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Ashaki:
Understand I said she has been PROPOSED to so many times...I understand physical attraction, but I have to wonder if she was a couple of shades darker, hair a little nappier and she carried a few extra inches on the hip, would she get the same attention... It depends on how she carries herself. The external affects that she gives to men do say alot but what about her demeanor?
Friday
05-01-2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Leslie:
they got their feelings hurt in the 6th grade and never got over it.icon_rofl.gif
Cheddar
05-01-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
The simplicity is really found in how simple a man; married, involved or single...can see a beautiful woman, admire her and if possible have an episode with her and not get all twisted with the emotions.
What is really the point...you too LES.
:D A crock of shit and you know it.....men catch feelings too - how do you think men who dog women got that way - they got their feelings hurt in the 6th grade and never got over it.
The point is men talk about as much shit as women do and those that indicate they are not hung up on looks should kill the noise, that's a lie, you know it, I know it, etc... </font>[/QUOTE]Wait..what is this thread about again???
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ashaki:
Understand I said she has been PROPOSED to so many times...I understand physical attraction, but I have to wonder if she was a couple of shades darker, hair a little nappier and she carried a few extra inches on the hip, would she get the same attention... It depends on how she carries herself. The external affects that she gives to men do say alot but what about her demeanor? </font>[/QUOTE]She's a classy woman, but so are many...her demeanor screams...money money money....and men are suckers for her...it's just funny how men claim that looks aren't everything, but the truth is, women are far more forgiving when it comes to physical attributes than men are...when we say, looks really don't matter, that's usually what we mean, but when men say looks really don't matter, that's not what they really mean.
Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ashaki:
Understand I said she has been PROPOSED to so many times...I understand physical attraction, but I have to wonder if she was a couple of shades darker, hair a little nappier and she carried a few extra inches on the hip, would she get the same attention... It depends on how she carries herself. The external affects that she gives to men do say alot but what about her demeanor? </font>[/QUOTE]She's a classy woman, but so are many...her demeanor screams...money money money....and men are suckers for her...it's just funny how men claim that looks aren't everything, but the truth is, women are far more forgiving when it comes to physical attributes than men are...when we say, looks really don't matter, that's usually what we mean, but when men say looks really don't matter, that's not what they really mean. </font>[/QUOTE]i second that as a man..
GROOVE VICTIM
05-01-2003, 08:47 AM
Well if she's giving off this "Money Money Money" glow, then she's obviously attracting men who think that they can win a woman over with their wallets.
They both got issues IMO. Running from one person to another, later down the line you'll end up all by yourself.
Peace
I third that as a man too. All ugly women take that noise home!
Keith Blackstone
05-01-2003, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by TAC:
I third that as a man too. All ugly women take that noise home! graemlins/rofl.gif
word, stop all this hatin on cute girls
Originally posted by Ashaki:
Understand I said she has been PROPOSED to so many times...I understand physical attraction, but I have to wonder if she was a couple of shades darker, hair a little nappier and she carried a few extra inches on the hip, would she get the same attention... you have to releae your inner Halle
Leslie
05-01-2003, 09:02 AM
mhd - release your inner Halle - good one...
Mocambo
05-01-2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ashaki:
Understand I said she has been PROPOSED to so many times...I understand physical attraction, but I have to wonder if she was a couple of shades darker, hair a little nappier and she carried a few extra inches on the hip, would she get the same attention... you have to releae your inner Halle </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/lol.gif
I needed that this morning.
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 09:05 AM
Oh please suckas! nobody is hating on anyone...I'm just saying if looks matter they matter, quit proclaiming that they don't. Shit, they are the suckas not her... graemlins/rofl.gif because looks don't matter to her...
Keith Blackstone
05-01-2003, 09:09 AM
Ashaki... is the point of your post to remind us of things we already know... or..... ?
See she needs to start a class Suckas101:how to get suckas to buy u anything you want.. hail.gif
some woman just have that they can say ohh isn't that a nice whatever... Next thing you know the guy has bought it for her... Its a GIFT I TELL Ya.. A GIFT...
that and I believe phermones play a big role in it... graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif
Martin Red
05-01-2003, 09:18 AM
We all see through our own eyes, personal experience, personal views, personal traits and location can always give us different examples, age and experience may also come into play.
I haven't married yet and I am in no rush, the men that has lost half his house is bound to take a different view, a man that finds his wife in bed with another man may take a different view. We all see through our owns eyes and experience.
As long as it is a personal experience, then cool.
Some men make the same mistakes some learn. Some will always choose the high maintenance girls. Same as some girls will always go for complete aloof bastards, way of the world, some people always want something that is out of reach.
Cheddar
05-01-2003, 09:19 AM
Wait...this is killing me...looks dont matter to the woman...but the overall topic is an argument which states that men act like they (looks)really dont matter..when they do...hence why they (men) TRICK on pretty women!?!?!?!
Tell us something we dont know.
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 09:20 AM
I just think it's funny that as soon as a woman decides that she will not date you unless you drive a certain car or make a certain amount of money she becomes a trick, gold digger, bitch, shallow, and what other names men come up with.... she when in all actuallity she may be up on something... :D
Jamie 3:26
05-01-2003, 09:22 AM
Ashaki,honestly,yes I do look at women who are good looking,hell I have eyes.I am not drawn to that type.Those pretty gals are a handful.I have been with my share of women and I prefer a modest down to earth gal.
I like a woman who can jump fine when she wants too.I dont need her to have hair down to her ass and perfect teeth and so forth.Hell,I got a beer belly,so why would I trip on a woman with love handles?
I have been attracted to all types of women,but the ones who I was instantly drawn to by looks,never worked out.Yes,there has to be some attraction,yet I do not want to have a super fine woman.I used to almost get into fights over one of my ex's due to ignant ass fools.
Right now,I am married to a woman who is beautiful in my eyes.her inner beauty is the thing that cosatnly keeps me attracted to her.
I know she is with me for me.I give props to brothers like Denzel who stuck with his wife and did not upgrade,so to speak.Not saying she is ugly,but she is a modest women who is not hol-lie-wood.
My wife has a girlfriend who only goes after guys who are sharp dressers and have a certain look.She ends up having drama and all other kinds of madness.She still does not get it why she keeps ending up with loosers.Being superficial gets you no where...fast.
I'm happy and that's all that matters.
Originally posted by 1343:
Wait...this is killing me...looks dont matter to the woman...but the overall topic is an argument which states that men act like they (looks)really dont matter..when they do...hence why they (men) TRICK on pretty women!?!?!?!
Tell us something we dont know. Honestly I believe looks matter to EVERYONE man & woman.. Its just that woman can move past the look thing once they meet someone and there is a certain something that makes a spark in them while men get stuck in the look part..
Cheddar
05-01-2003, 09:25 AM
Its called superficial.
I don't care!!! Bring em all.
8 to 80, lame blind or crazy.
Come one, come all.
Yes, don't be lazy!
But, yer better look good.
SHEIK YERBOUTI
05-01-2003, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by Ashaki:
Oh please suckas! nobody is hating on anyone...I'm just saying if looks matter they matter, quit proclaiming that they don't. Shit, they are the suckas not her... graemlins/rofl.gif because looks don't matter to her... Per your girlfriend, of course looks don't matter.
The MONEY all looks/spends the same, except some denominations are bigger than others... ;)
Cheddar
05-01-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]Then it aint love..
Leslie
05-01-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter....
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif
Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]Then it aint love.. </font>[/QUOTE]I don't believe in LOVE@First sight... graemlins/nono.gif
Its more like LUST@First Sight..
Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]Then it aint love.. </font>[/QUOTE]oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
Leslie
05-01-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]Then it aint love.. </font>[/QUOTE]What's love got to do with it?
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]Then it aint love.. </font>[/QUOTE]What's love got to do with it? </font>[/QUOTE]That's what I always asked you. So your telling me that I don't look good?
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 09:33 AM
Noone is saying that looks don't matter...
I hear you Jamie...
Jamie 3:26
05-01-2003, 09:34 AM
Have ya'll ever seen two ugly people together and wondered how in the hell did that happen?That's how some of ya'll came into this world..... graemlins/bolt.gif
Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Have ya'll ever seen two ugly people together and wondered how in the hell did that happen?That's how some of ya'll came into this world..... graemlins/bolt.gif That's a bad combination. Ugly plus ugly makes damn ugly.
Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Have ya'll ever seen two ugly people together and wondered how in the hell did that happen?That's how some of ya'll came into this world..... graemlins/bolt.gif That's a bad combination. Ugly plus ugly makes damn ugly. </font>[/QUOTE]Doesn't two negative make a positive...
Ive seen people that r fugly graemlins/scared.gif but have that most beautiful kids graemlins/acclaim.gif
Martin Red
05-01-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]Then it aint love.. </font>[/QUOTE]I don't believe in LOVE@First sight... graemlins/nono.gif
Its more like LUST@First Sight.. </font>[/QUOTE]Hell yes, I agree. Ever heard anyone comment on a woman/man over a crowded dance floor
she/he looks like they might have a good personality - naaaaaahhhhh!
If you see someone for the first time and are attracted it ain't got shit to do with personality.
Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Have ya'll ever seen two ugly people together and wondered how in the hell did that happen?That's how some of ya'll came into this world..... graemlins/bolt.gif That's a bad combination. Ugly plus ugly makes damn ugly. </font>[/QUOTE]Doesn't two negative make a positive...
Ive seen people that r fugly graemlins/scared.gif but have that most beautiful kids graemlins/acclaim.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Mathematically speaking, yes. Sociologically speaking, no. Two wrongs don't make a right! graemlins/acclaim.gif
Leslie
05-01-2003, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Its called superficial. BS - looks matter when you gotta rollover and look at someone....oh hell yea they matter.... </font>[/QUOTE]Then it aint love.. </font>[/QUOTE]What's love got to do with it? </font>[/QUOTE]That's what I always asked you. So your telling me that I don't look good? </font>[/QUOTE]Has the Chairman seen this????
nev m
05-01-2003, 10:41 AM
If you see someone for the first time and are attracted it ain't got shit to do with personality. [/QB][/QUOTE]Martin Red.
With all due respect Martin I used to think exactly like that but have recently changed my mind. Although you have to be physicaly attracted to someone in the first place you can fall head over heels for someone the first time you meet.
However I don't think it happens to everyone, and I think those people it does happen to could only experience it once.
This is not a debate by the way! Just my "tuppence" worth (two cents worth U.S!) I'm outa here graemlins/bolt.gif
[ May 01, 2003, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: nev m ]
djmarbll
05-01-2003, 10:42 AM
Whoever says that looks don't matter especially during the first impression is lying through their teeth. The fact is men and women initially go by the physical first. That's how God made us. Because women have more physical attributes to measure by, men sometimes use the physical for the wrong reasons, but having a third leg will cause you to do that. Another fact is that men give love to get sex, while women give sex to get love. Furthermore, a hard dick has no conscience. I've learned all these attributes the hard way.
upliftdisco365
05-01-2003, 10:47 AM
Well, I've found miss right. I've known HER since the 10th grade. We we're officially boyfriend/girlfriend for about 18 months during 1999-2000. I knew then that SHE had eveything that I wanted in a lifetime partner; sincerity, intelligence, ambition, sharp wit, level-headedness and yes, ass for days. But I was foolish and thought that by committing to HER completely, that I'd miss out on something. So we ended up parting ways, because I'd never really and truly put my heart into it.
I dated lots girls and was really serious about one, which not too long ago ended in true Jerry Springer fashion. After three years, I realized that what I'd really miss out on was being with HER. I found HER and called HER last October. I apologized for being such an asswipe in our previous relationship and I told HER that I loved HER and that I thought we should give it another shot.
Now we live together and plan to get married by the end of the year.
I took a long look at myself and realized that this need to go from girl to girl spoke to some sort of problem with ME, not the girls that I chased. Commitment is about understanding that you have someone unique and special knowing that you want what you have with them to last forever and understanding that NOTHING or NO ONE in the world is worth compromising or jeopardizing your relationship with that person. Don't get me wrong, I still LOOK and asses and say, "Gaddam" to myself or to my boys, but there's no harm in that, right?
RIGHT....
Jolyon
05-01-2003, 10:49 AM
That's a nice story.
Leslie
05-01-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
That's a nice story. I completely agree - I'm at work like "Aww that so sweet"
liL Ray
05-01-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
Well, I've found miss right. I've known HER since the 10th grade. We we're officially boyfriend/girlfriend for about 18 months during 1999-2000. I knew then that SHE had eveything that I wanted in a lifetime partner; sincerity, intelligence, ambition, sharp wit, level-headedness and yes, ass for days. But I was foolish and thought that by committing to HER completely, that I'd miss out on something. So we ended up parting ways, because I'd never really and truly put my heart into it.
I dated lots girls and was really serious about one, which not too long ago ended in true Jerry Springer fashion. After three years, I realized that what I'd really miss out on was being with HER. I found HER and called HER last October. I apologized for being such an asswipe in our previous relationship and I told HER that I loved HER and that I thought we should give it another shot.
Now we live together and plan to get married by the end of the year.
I took a long look at myself and realized that this need to go from girl to girl spoke to some sort of problem with ME, not the girls that I chased. Commitment is about understanding that you have someone unique and special knowing that you want what you have with them to last forever and understanding that NOTHING or NO ONE in the world is worth compromising or jeopardizing your relationship with that person. Don't get me wrong, I still LOOK and asses and say, "Gaddam" to myself or to my boys, but there's no harm in that, right?
RIGHT.... "If you Love someone, set them free.....if they come back, it was meant to be".
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
That's a nice story. I completely agree - I'm at work like "Aww that so sweet" </font>[/QUOTE]Looking at Leslie and Joylon...yea that was sweet huh?
Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
[snip...]but there's no harm in that, right?
RIGHT.... That's okay bro. Just keep telling yourself that. Eventually, you'll come to terms with it.
Dr. Freud
05-01-2003, 11:02 AM
Looks matter to ALMOST all men... period. There are exceptions to this, but they are few and far between. The thing is, what looks good to one man doesn't look good to the other. So its really all relative. My homie might go crazy over some girl, and I'm like "Damn, that fool really doesn't care about looks." But he DOES... because she LOOKS GOOD to him.
Make any sense???
Question... Have you ever seen some and thought they aren't cute at all... Then through talking to them you find yourself saying damn what was i thinking he/she is really cute..
Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand
05-01-2003, 11:11 AM
I cannot speak for my husband entirely but I will say this. He has dated models and very attractive women but he said he always had a problem with how shallow they are. Now he and I both clicked mainly because not only we both are attractive but we have a little more depth to us than most people that are overpowered by their vanity.
Dr. Freud
05-01-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by MYOR:
Question... Have you ever seen some and thought they aren't cute at all... Then through talking to them you find yourself saying damn what was i thinking he/she is really cute.. That's called being charming...
Koffy Brown
05-01-2003, 11:17 AM
What's funny is when I meet her friends, I'm like girl now what's wrong with him, he's attractive, attentive, has money, owns his own home...what wha!!?? and she runs down this list of things that's wrong with the brotha, and I'm thinking, that sap sucka...most of the men she date isn't my type, but I'm thinking that there has to be a good sistah out there who would do this brotha right, she may not be as pretty on the outside as my girl but would be a good woman...they just don't get it...but o well....maybe I care too much..
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