Effects...how much is too much?

[DLow]

Or too little in a mix? I've been criticized for having too much filtering effects as well as for not using any effects at all.

I'm curious to hear your opinions on this regarding CDs and in a club atmosphere.

Peace

[Light Skinted Wif Good Hur]

Effects are there to enhance (not overwhelm) the music. If someone's bitching about not enough effects they probably have ADD. You have to let the record breathe!

[Woody Rosen]

Originally posted by whyteout:
Effects are there to enhance (not overwhelm) the music. If someone's bitching about not enough effects they probably have ADD. You have to let the record breathe! i feel where you're coming from. for me i have had this experience. when you dont get to practice on a mixer that has effects, it's easy to get carried away when you play out somewhere that has effects. i try to think of them as gravy on a chicken fried steak. you dont want too much, cuz thats just nasty.

[jpsf]

it's all prefrence i guess. personally, i don't like the dj trying to add too much because i feel that it takes away from the producer's idea.

[Raven Fox]

If you are running a REAL journey type thing,
by all means "FVCK THAT SHIT UUUP"

vs.

If you are just playing to be be playing to be playing,
don't "FVCK THAT SHIT UP, please"

YOU will know when enough is enough by your own reaction if you are TRUE to the OUTPUT from the SPEAKERS and your SOUL.

play it proud.

[ September 30, 2003, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: Raven Fox ]

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When your ears bleed, that's usually a good indication that you're using too much. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif

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some djs over do it. period.

[Physicalheat-The MusicMaster]

If you "NEED" the EFX to make you "SOUND" better, Maybe you should try not using them for awhile. I really never have used them.

[Ron la Rock]

i tell ya this its gettin out of hand
theres been a lot of nob abuse lateley around town its gettin to the point I'm laughin at it(& mean cracking up) lateley than being upset graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif

I'll take a good ole echo chamber hip hop dj (a totaly lost vibe) anyday over this sometimes its fun but like said it can get out of hand

yes entertain your croed but sometime
let the Dang record play!

[Raven Fox]

very interesting replies to this one.

MASTER IT before you make a fool of yourself because basically - it's not adding to the music - it's taking away from it.

WHo have you heard that MASTERS the crossover/FX:

I'll start:
#1 - JOE CLAUSELL
#2 - TIMMY REGISFORD
#3 - LOUIE VEGA
#4 - THEO PARRISH
#5 - KIM LIGHTFOOT

respect the music!

[Nege]

It is about preferance,
I personally like hearing what a DJ can DO to a record.
I prefer doing something to a song or a record myself.
It's fun,

[Nege]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Raven Fox:
[QB] very interesting replies to this one.

MASTER IT before you make a fool of yourself because basically - it's not adding to the music - it's taking away from it.


Agreed,
it's like anything else ,
make sure that you know what you are doing .

[Ron la Rock]

Originally posted by Raven Fox:
very interesting replies to this one.

MASTER IT before you make a fool of yourself because basically - it's not adding to the music - it's taking away from it.

WHo have you heard that MASTERS the crossover/FX:

I'll start:
#1 - JOE CLAUSELL
#2 - TIMMY REGISFORD
#3 - LOUIE VEGA
#4 - THEO PARRISH
#5 - KIM LIGHTFOOT

respect the music! the top 2 on your list are offenders in my book lucky i'm not the nob po-po
graemlins/rofl.gif

[Raven Fox]

Originally posted by Ron paizley:
the top 2 on your list are offenders in my book lucky i'm not the nob po-po
graemlins/rofl.gif Yes, I know what you mean - but they got it down when it REALLY works.
Timmy has a signature on it
and JC DEFINETLY KILLS that shit like no other...

It's all about the music man.

Otherwise, it's about the DJ Skills

and when you got 100,000 mofos going crazy to that EFX-500 modulated, dubbed out, swirled around, delayed up vocal swirl or piano rush, i.e. GLORIA's MUSE getting the TIMMY TREATMENT or CASA FORTE getting tortured by JOE CLAUSELL
you can't help but feel that shit move you.

vs.

KID that's on the box, really trying hard to even get people to dance, messing with the EQ ALREADY before the party even got a chance to blow. Then - later on, proceeds to absolutely annoy everybody with the BASS DROPOUTS, the EAR SPLITTING MID BLASTS and the sizzle of the HIGHS... "dayum... somebody go tell that HIP HOP DJ to get his ass in here." icon_rofl.gif

see.

[ October 01, 2003, 12:45 AM: Message edited by: Raven Fox ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
When your ears bleed, that's usually a good indication that you're using too much. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif bleeding fingers not included?

d

[Nege]

Bleeding fingers included.

[Raven Fox]

Urban Legend graemlins/thumbsup.gif

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Originally posted by Raven Fox:
very interesting replies to this one.

MASTER IT before you make a fool of yourself because basically - it's not adding to the music - it's taking away from it.

WHo have you heard that MASTERS the crossover/FX:

I'll start:
#1 - JOE CLAUSELL
#2 - TIMMY REGISFORD
#3 - LOUIE VEGA
#4 - THEO PARRISH
#5 - KIM LIGHTFOOT

respect the music! I love Joe's productions but he made my ears bleed when he played at DEEP-LA. Take that EQ away from him! graemlins/cussing.gif It's a total buzz kill.

[DLow]

Originally posted by physicalheat:
If you "NEED" the EFX to make you "SOUND" better, Maybe you should try not using them for awhile. I really never have used them. That was never my intention. I only want to enhance what's already there. But I do realize there is a fine line that you walk in regards to effects. I'm still learning.

[DLow]

Originally posted by Raven Fox:
very interesting replies to this one.

MASTER IT before you make a fool of yourself because basically - it's not adding to the music - it's taking away from it.

WHo have you heard that MASTERS the crossover/FX:

I'll start:
#1 - JOE CLAUSELL
#2 - TIMMY REGISFORD
#3 - LOUIE VEGA
#4 - THEO PARRISH
#5 - KIM LIGHTFOOT

respect the music! One more comes to mind: Francois K.

[Physicalheat-The MusicMaster]

Also may I add that I put a lot of the blame on the mixers. They put all that stuff on the units. The Pioneers' 500,600,3000 ect... . I don't use those mixers because I don't like the sound (I'm a Rane/Bozak/Urei, or any other good knob mixer myself). Plus with all those gadgets, you're gonna lose something somewhere. I Remember when we just had the old Teledyne Mixer

[ October 01, 2003, 06:53 AM: Message edited by: physicalheat ]

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by physicalheat:
Also may I add that put a lot of the blame on the mixers. They put all that stuff on the units. The Pioneers' 500,600,3000 ect... . I don't use those mixers because I don't like the sound (I'm a Rane/Bozak/Urei, or any other good knob mixer myself). Plus with all those gadgets, you're good lose something somewhere. I Remember when we just had the old Teledyne Mixer Teledyne...the first mixer with a x-fader I played on.My uncle got his from that old spot..Olsen electronics on 95th st.I remember the cues were on top.Thanks,now I'm gonna search one out on e-bay.

[marki]

After clubbing for years, didn't have my best night out until November of last year when Larry Heard came to Sheffield UK to play. Jeeesus that man ripped up the FX box (along with Brett Dancer)It was one night when unusually I didn't drink (well had 1 or 2) so I can remember nearly everything. Larry was filtering some 12"s from start to finnish, his hands were working over time, to me personally it worked amazingly, so depending on who is in control and which tunes are been played u can never have too muchor too little it all depends on the techniques of the technician/atomosphhere/mixer/crowd/club etc

[Nege]

Originally posted by Derrick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Raven Fox:
very interesting replies to this one.

MASTER IT before you make a fool of yourself because basically - it's not adding to the music - it's taking away from it.

WHo have you heard that MASTERS the crossover/FX:

I'll start:
#1 - JOE CLAUSELL
#2 - TIMMY REGISFORD
#3 - LOUIE VEGA
#4 - THEO PARRISH
#5 - KIM LIGHTFOOT

respect the music! One more comes to mind: Francois K. </font>[/QUOTE]francois K is actually one of the best I have heard with the effects,
the effects appear as part of the music and not overwhelming when he does it.
mind you I have only heard him twice in the past 3 months.....

[DLow]

Originally posted by Nege:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Derrick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Raven Fox:
very interesting replies to this one.

MASTER IT before you make a fool of yourself because basically - it's not adding to the music - it's taking away from it.

WHo have you heard that MASTERS the crossover/FX:

I'll start:
#1 - JOE CLAUSELL
#2 - TIMMY REGISFORD
#3 - LOUIE VEGA
#4 - THEO PARRISH
#5 - KIM LIGHTFOOT

respect the music! One more comes to mind: Francois K. </font>[/QUOTE]francois K is actually one of the best I have heard with the effects,
the effects appear as part of the music and not overwhelming when he does it.
mind you I have only heard him twice in the past 3 months..... </font>[/QUOTE]hey...you're doing better than me!!!

[DLow]

Good looking out everyone on the advice. I'm still practicing though. When used correctly and at the right time, as sounds good as sh**!!!

Peace

[richierich]

I don't know...sometimes it does get in the way..I'm still learning myself....I really like the way Frankie use to give the floor that warm rush of bass at just the right time in a particular song...people would just be smiling feeling it..not every soNg needs to be tampered with..JMO!!

[Jamie 3:26]

I use it for drama.I also use it to freak the hell outta something.I like the sounds of it.I always have loved using reverbs and echo boxes.

Everyone has their own flavor and style.Why is that a crime nowadays?

[simon b]

I agree, Francois is awesome with the x-over and efx.

How do you tell if it's too much? When you notice the efx more than the music.

Ask a woman about this, they won't bullshit you...I've seen my girl stop dancing to her favorite song because as she puts it, the DJ is "masturbating."

[DLow]

Originally posted by richierich:
I don't know...sometimes it does get in the way..I'm still learning myself....I really like the way Frankie use to give the floor that warm rush of bass at just the right time in a particular song...people would just be smiling feeling it..not every soNg needs to be tampered with..JMO!! Yo, that WHOOSH sound gives me chills everytime I hear it. I can get that effect from time to time, usually by accident. :D

[Nege]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Everyone has their own flavor and style.Why is that a crime nowadays? It's not a crime at all Jamie,
Being creative is not a crime,
unfortunately some people just feel that way.

[ October 01, 2003, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Nege ]