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mdpm99

11-05-2003, 10:05 AM

"If the standard of impeachment that the Republicans set for Bill Clinton -- a personal, consensual relationship -- was the basis for impeachment, would not a president who knowingly deceived the American people about something as important as whether to go to war meet the standard of impeachment?"

Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL), July 2003

mdpm99

11-05-2003, 10:19 AM

Ps.

WASHINGTON (Nov. 3) - Linda Tripp will get more than $595,000 from the Defense Department to settle a lawsuit over the release of confidential personal information about her to a magazine, her lawyers said Monday.

Based on information supplied by Pentagon officials in 1998, The New Yorker reported Tripp did not admit an arrest on her security application for her job at the Defense Department. She had been arrested for grand larceny when she was a teenager.

liL Ray

11-05-2003, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by david mancuso:
Ps.

WASHINGTON (Nov. 3) - Linda Tripp will get more than $595,000 from the Defense Department to settle a lawsuit over the release of confidential personal information about her to a magazine, her lawyers said Monday.

Based on information supplied by Pentagon officials in 1998, The New Yorker reported Tripp did not admit an arrest on her security application for her job at the Defense Department. She had been arrested for grand larceny when she was a teenager. I guess it pays to be a thief and a liar...what a great lesson they are teaching kids.....

altrrdst8

11-05-2003, 10:24 AM

does the lack of democracy, in the land of the free not worry you guys?

st8

lola desire

11-05-2003, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by altrrdst8:
does the lack of democracy, in the land of the free not worry you guys?

st8 i mean, that's the point. there are A LOT of americans (or at least people who live here) who feel a kind of ironic anger toward this country. on the one hand, there is this huge potential to be able to do whatever you dream of, but on the other hand, there is this overwhelming layer of bullsh*t we all have to cut through to do what we want or see the truth.

Chris Conrad

11-05-2003, 10:30 AM

how about this one:

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." - Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

Leslie

11-05-2003, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
Ps.

WASHINGTON (Nov. 3) - Linda Tripp will get more than $595,000 from the Defense Department to settle a lawsuit over the release of confidential personal information about her to a magazine, her lawyers said Monday.

Based on information supplied by Pentagon officials in 1998, The New Yorker reported Tripp did not admit an arrest on her security application for her job at the Defense Department. She had been arrested for grand larceny when she was a teenager. I guess it pays to be a thief and a liar...what a great lesson they are teaching kids..... [/QUOTE]You ain't never lied Ray! graemlins/rofl.gif

Bold Soul

11-05-2003, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
how about this one:

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." - Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991 More like Dr. Josef Goebbles.

jsd540

11-05-2003, 10:36 AM

mdpm99

11-05-2003, 10:38 AM

Subj: Congress moves to regulate Postcolonial studies

Greetings:

Some rather fascist censorship and totalitarian control is being legislated through funding institutions for American universities and academics. There is a letter below with links to official documentation.

(sorry about the forward arrows)

"In short, it seems that the House of Representatives is about to regulate the courses and content that we, as future professors, will teach in colleges and universities. The possibility that someone in homeland security will instruct college professors (with Ph.D.s) on the proper, patriotic, "American-friendly" textbooks that may be used in class scares and outrages me. "

From Michael Bednar

> >Department of History
> >The University of Texas at Austin
> >Congress Moves to Regulate Postcolonial Studies (fwd)
> >Oct. 20, 2003

> >Friends,
> >As many of you who know me well will soon realize, I have become a
> >political activist for the first time in my life. I am not here to rant,
> >but to inform you on current legislation that is being debated in the
> >House of Representatives. The legislation in question, H.R. 3077, will
> >rewrite the Title VI legislation that has provided FLAS money to many of
> >us and that also funds the various area-studies centers in our
> >universities.
> >In particular, the legislation proposes the creation of an "advisory
> >board" that may severely impact universities by dictating the curricula
> >taught, course materials assigned in class, and the faculty who are
> >hired in institutions that accept Title VI funding. It gets worse. The
> >U.S. House of Representative's Subcommittee on Select Education Hearing
> >on "International Programs in Higher Education and Questions about Bias"
> >on June 19, 2003
> >(http://edworkforce.house.gov/hearings/108th/sed/titlevi61903/wl61903.ht
> >m)
> >begins with an opening statement by Representative Phil Gringrey that
> >includes the following passage: "we are here today to learn more about a
> >number of programs that are authorized and funded under Title VI, which
> >are some of the oldest programs of support to higher education. These
> >programs reflect the priority placed by the federal government on
> >diplomacy, national security, and trade competitiveness. International
> >studies and education have become an increasingly important and relevant
> >topic of conversation and consideration in higher education... However,
> >with mounting global tensions, some programs under the Higher Education
> >Act that support foreign language and area studies centers have recently
> >attracted national attention and concern due to the perception of their
> >teachings and policies."
> >Testimony provided by Dr. Stanley Kurtz (available from the link above)
> >portrays areas studies centers as hotbeds of unpatriotic
> >anti-Americanism. Dr. Kurtz focuses, in particular, on post-colonial
> >theory and the work of Edward Said's Orientalism in which "Said equated
> >professors who support American foreign policy with the 19th century
> >European intellectuals who propped up racist colonial empires. The core
> >premise of post-colonial theory is that it is immoral for a scholar to
> >put his knowledge of foreign languages and cultures at the service of
> >American power." (quoted from Kurtz's statement found at
> >http://edworkforce.house.gov/hearings/108th/sed/titlevi61903/kurtz.htm
> >Kurtz asserts that the rampant presence of post-colonial theory in
> >academic circles, with its bias against America and the West, has
> >produced a corps of professors who refuse to instruct or support (with
> >FLAS grants) students interested in pursuing careers in the foreign
> >service and/or intelligence agencies. Kurtz comments that: "We know that
> >transmissions from the September 11 highjackers [sic] went untranslated
> >for want of Arabic speakers in our intelligence agencies. Given that,
> >and given the ongoing lack of foreign language expertise in our defense
> >and intelligence agencies, the directors of the Title VI African studies
> >centers who voted unanimously, just after September 11, to reaffirm
> >their boycott of the NSEP [National Security Education Program], have
> >all acted to undermine America's national security, and its foreign
> >policy. And so has every other Title VI-funded scholar in Latin
> >American-, African-, and Middle Eastern Studies who has upheld the
> >long-standing boycott of the NSEP."
> >The answer, Kurtz proposes, is to create an oversight board that will
> >link Title VI funding to students training for careers in national
> >security, defense and intelligence agencies, and the Foreign Service.
> >How effective was Dr. Kurtz's presentation? The committee not only
> >believed everything Dr.Kurtz claimed, they even implemented most of his
> >suggestions, including the "advisory board."
> >An amended House Resolution, H.R. 3077, proposes to create an
> >International Education Advisory Board, with appointed members from
> >homeland security, the Department of Defense, and the National Security
> >Agency, "to increase accountability by providing advice, counsel, and
> >recommendations to Congress on international education issues for higher
> >education." (Quoted from the Sept. 19, 2003 press release of Congressman
> >John Boehner, committee
> >chairman,http://edworkforce.house.gov/press/press108/09sep/hr3077psub091
> >703.
> >htm
> >The full resolution of H.R. 3077 can be found at
> >http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.3077:
> >H.R. 3077 was amended in subcommittee and this amended resolution
> >elaborates on the composition and role of the International Education
> >Advisory Board (see especially pages 16-24). The amended H.R. 3077 can
> >be found at:
> >http://edworkforce.house.gov/markups/108th/sed/hr3077/917main.htm .
> >Click on the link that says "Amendment in the Nature of a Substitute"
> >which will download an Adobe Acrobat pdf file. This amended H.R. 3077
> >has been sent to the full committee, which met on Thursday, September 25
> >at 11:00 AM to discuss the resolution before sending it to the House of
> >Representatives.
> >Just in case you think that I have lost my marbles or that I am
> >over-reacting, the Higher Education and National Affairs newsletter,
> >published by the American Council on Education, and available
> >athttp://www.acenet.edu/hena/ includes the following comments on H.R.
> >3077 (page 1, continued on page 4):
> >"House Republicans intend for H.R. 3077 to build on existing
> >international and foreign language studies Title VI programs, adding
> >what many in the higher education community believe is unnecessary
> >federal oversight through a new International Education Advisory Board."
> >Federal international education programs were the focus of a House
> >subcommittee hearing in June, during which one witness testified to a
> >strong "anti-American" bias in many college and university international
> >departments which he claimed could possibly undermine American foreign
> >policy. ACE presented opposing testimony (see
> >http://www.acenet.edu/washington/international/Hartle.Testimony.pdf .
> >As a subcommittee press release asserted, this advisory body would be
> >created in consultation with homeland security agencies in order to
> >"increase accountability by providing advice, counsel, and
> >recommendations to Congress on international education issues for higher
> >education." Higher education leaders oppose this board on the grounds
> >that the powers it is granted are so broad that they put institutions in
> >danger of losing control over their own curricula, hiring practices, and
> >other aspects of their international programs."
> >In short, it seems that the House of Representatives is about to
> >regulate the courses and content that we, as future professors, will
> >teach in colleges and universities. The possibility that someone in
> >homeland security will instruct college professors (with Ph.D.s) on the
> >proper, patriotic, "American-friendly" textbooks that may be used in
> >class scares and outrages me. This morning, this was news to me. If this
> >is new to you and if you feel as equally scared and angered that the
> >government may censure your future academic career, then I urge you to:
> >1) distribute this message to other professors and students in area
> >studies; and
> >2) write a handwritten letter (in ink) to your local
> >congressmen and to John A. Boehner, Chairman of the Full Committee on
> >Education and the Workforce at the following
> >address:
> >John A. Boehner
> >1011 Longworth H.O.B.
> >Washington, DC 20515
> >Please refrain from emails and typewritten or computer printouts as
> >these are often ignored in Congress as being mass-produced by
> >special-interest groups. Write in ink, in legible penmanship, and let
> >your voice be heard.
> >Best,
> >Michael Bednar
> >Department of History
> >The University of Texas at Austin
>
>
>
>Susan Protheroe
>Administrator
>Dept. of Comparative Literature
>New York University
>(212) 998-8796
>FAX (212) 995-4377
>
>

D J 1 3 8

11-05-2003, 10:48 AM

Clinton was not impeached for having a personal consensual relationship, he was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH about a personal consensual relationship. Lying under oath is a federal offense eb you a Republican or Democrat.

So far, There is no proof that Bush has lied under oath. I hope to god that some surfaces, but it seems unlikley at this time.

mdpm99

11-05-2003, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by DJ 138:
Clinton was not impeached for having a personal consensual relationship, he was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH about a personal consensual relationship. Lying under oath is a federal offense eb you a Republican or Democrat.

So far, There is no proof that Bush has lied under oath. I hope to god that some surfaces, but it seems unlikley at this time. Oath of office not included?

d

mdpm99

11-05-2003, 11:12 AM

This is what it was all about in the first place!

Bush Donors Won Major Contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan

Study Examines Contractors' Political Ties
By LARRY MARGASAK, AP

WASHINGTON (Oct. 30) - Companies awarded $8 billion in contracts to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan have been major campaign donors to President Bush, and their executives have had important political and military connections, according to a study released Thursday.

The study of more than 70 U.S. companies and individual contractors turned up more than $500,000 in donations to the president's 2000 campaign, more than they gave collectively to any other politician over the past dozen years.

The report was released by the Center for Public Integrity, a Washington-based research organization that produces investigative articles on special interests and ethics in government. Its staff includes journalists and researchers.

The Center concluded that most of the 10 largest contracts went to companies that employed former high-ranking government officials, or executives with close ties to members of Congress and even the agencies awarding their contracts.

Major contracts for Iraq and Afghanistan were awarded by the Bush administration without competitive bids, because agencies said competition would have taken too much time to meet urgent needs in both countries.

"No single agency supervised the contracting process for the government," Center executive director Charles Lewis said. "This situation alone shows how susceptible the contracting system is to waste, fraud and cronyism."

The top contract recipient was the Halliburton subsidiary KBR, with more than $2.3 billion awarded to support the U.S. military and restore Iraq's oil industry.

Halliburton was headed by Vice President Dick Cheney before he resigned to run with Bush in 2000.

Halliburton's top executive, Dave Lesar, said Wednesday he was offended by criticism of the company's Iraq work but believed it was "less about Halliburton and more about external political issues."

"As a company uniquely qualified to take on this difficult assignment, we will continue to bring all of our global resources to bear at this critical time in the Middle East. We have served the military for over 50 years and have no intention of backing down at this point," he said.

Bechtel was second with a $1 billion capital construction contract involving Iraq's utilities, telecommunications, railroads, ports, schools, health care facilities, bridges, roads and airports.

The company's Internet site says, "We do engage in the political process, as do most companies in the United States. We have legitimate policy interests and positions on matters before Congress, and we express them in many ways, including support for elected officials who support those positions.

"We do not expect or receive political favors or government contracts as a result of those contributions."

The Center's analysis of contractor political donations showed:

The top 10 contractors contributed $11 million to national political parties, candidates and political action committees since 1990.

Fourteen of the companies won contracts in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Those companies, combined, have given more than $23 million in political contributions since 1990.

Most contractors, their political action committees and their employees have contributed just under $49 million to national political campaigns and parties since that year.

In the same time period, contractor donations to Republican Party committees outpaced contributions to the Democrats, $12.7 million to $7.1 million.

Many of the companies with large contracts have important political connections.

Former Secretary of State George Shultz is a member of Bechtel's board of directors, although he has no management role, according to the company's Web site.

Riley Bechtel, the chairman and chief executive officer, was named early this year to the President's Export Council, which advises the president on programs to improve U.S. trade.

Jack Sheehan, senior vice president in Bechtel's petroleum and chemicals business, served on the Defense Policy Board, which advises the defense secretary on a variety of issues.

Other contractors also had connections. Among those cited by the Center:

David Kay, head of the Bush administration's search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, is a former vice president of Science Applications International Corp. He left the company in October 2002.

Christopher "Ryan" Henry left the same company as a vice president in February 2003 to become principal deputy undersecretary of defense for policy.

Scott Spangler, principal owner of Chemonics International, was a senior U.S. Agency for International Development official during the first Bush administration. The company receives 90 percent of its business from USAID.

Sullivan Haave Associates Inc. was founded by Carol Haave, currently the deputy assistant secretary of defense for security and information operations.

The Center's findings are based, in part, on 73 Freedom of Information Act requests and an analysis of a federal contractor database.

Bold Soul

11-05-2003, 11:24 AM

And that's why you can book his reelection. :(

D J 1 3 8

11-05-2003, 11:25 AM

For the record, Clinton also awarded Haliburton a HUGE contract in Bosnia during his administration. They and many of these other corporations have been in the war biz for some time now, during both Democrat and Republican administrations.

There's a great article in last month's Harpers about the privatization of so much of the military. I had no idea that entire army bases are run by corporations who do the cooking, cleaning , administrating, etc. - everything but the fighting. The general theme of the article is that privatization has made war so profitbale these days, that's it's no wonder that Cheney and his ilk support war, any war.

During the first Gulf War, Cheney's company got to rebuild the very oil refineries that he ordered bombed.

[ November 05, 2003, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: DJ 138 ]

mdpm99

11-05-2003, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by DJ 138:
For the record, Clinton also awarded Haliburton a HUGE contract in Bosnia during his administration. They and many of these other corporations have been in the war biz for some time now, during both Democrat and Republican administrations.

There's a great article in last month's Harpers about the privatization of so much of the military. I had no idea that entire army bases are run by corporations who do the cooking, cleaning , administrating, etc. - everything but the fighting. The general theme of the article is that privatization has made war so profitbale these days, that's it's no wonder that Cheney and his ilk support war, any war.

During the first Gulf War, Cheney's company got to rebuild the very oil refineries that he ordered bombed. Greetings DJ 138:

Would you know if under Clinton .... whether it was a competive bid(s)? Or was it just a one shot deal as with the bu$h admistration?

graemlins/conf44.gif

d

D J 1 3 8

11-05-2003, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by david mancuso:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
For the record, Clinton also awarded Haliburton a HUGE contract in Bosnia during his administration. They and many of these other corporations have been in the war biz for some time now, during both Democrat and Republican administrations.

There's a great article in last month's Harpers about the privatization of so much of the military. I had no idea that entire army bases are run by corporations who do the cooking, cleaning , administrating, etc. - everything but the fighting. The general theme of the article is that privatization has made war so profitbale these days, that's it's no wonder that Cheney and his ilk support war, any war.

During the first Gulf War, Cheney's company got to rebuild the very oil refineries that he ordered bombed. Greetings DJ 138:

Would you know if under Clinton .... whether it was a competive bid(s)? Or was it just a one shot deal as with the bu$h admistration?

graemlins/conf44.gif

d [/QUOTE]I don't recall, but do I believe the author of the article I referenced did answer that in the article. I'll try to se if I still have it lying around at home this week.

I am under the impression that the list of companies capable of a task so grand is very short.

I am not making excuses for the Bush admin, by the way, just trying to point out that it seems like the private side of the military-industrial complex has been an integral element of US military actions no for quite some time. It is clear, however, that Dick Cheney's close relationship with Haliburton seems like a bold-faced conflict of interest if there ever was one.

mdpm99

11-05-2003, 12:24 PM

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Chris Conrad

11-05-2003, 02:43 PM

http://www.pollingcompany.com/News.asp?FormMode=ViewReleases&ID=73

D J 1 3 8

11-05-2003, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
http://www.pollingcompany.com/News.asp?FormMode=ViewReleases&ID=73 I saw this earlier today.
it needs it's own thread.

mdpm99

11-05-2003, 04:01 PM

Thank you DJ 138:

For immediate release
Tuesday, November 4, 2003 Contact: Kellyanne Conway
(202) 667-6557

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SHOCKING POLL: A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS CANNOT NAME A SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THE PRESIDENT’S CABINET.

Washington, DC – Most Americans are unable to identify even a single department in the United States Cabinet, according to a recent national poll of 800 adults. Specifically, the survey found that a majority (58%) could not provide any department names whatsoever; 41% could. Only 4% of those surveyed specified at least five of the 19 executive-level departments, a figure comparable to the poll’s overall margin of error (+/-3.5%).

The same firm that last year revealed an eye-popping 64% of Americans could not name any of the Justices of the United States Supreme Court, has now uncovered a similar lack of knowledge with respect to the Executive Branch of federal government.

“These poll numbers would make any high school civics teacher cringe,” says Kellyanne Conway, President and CEO of the polling company, inc., in Washington, DC, the firm that conducted the survey. “The differing levels of knowledge according to gender, race and age are astonishing,” she continued. “An incredible 70% of 18-34 year olds failed to specify a single agency or department, and while a majority of men (52%) could name at least one, less than one-third of women (32%) could do the same.”

Total Men Women

Dept of Defense 23% 29% 19%
Dept of Treasury 14% 16% 12%
Dept of State 13% 16% 10%
Dept of Homeland Security 12% 15% 8%
Dept of Interior 11% 15% 8%

No respondent named all nineteen correctly and only 1% were able to name at least 11 departments within the President’s Cabinet.

Hispanics (79%), African Americans (75%), 18-34 year olds (70%), women (68%), and Pacific coast residents are among the groups most likely to say “I don’t know” when asked to name at least one department within the current United States Cabinet.

QUESTION
Currently, the Federal Government includes executive level departments that advise the President. The heads of these departments are collectively known as the Cabinet. Could you please name as many departments as you can that are part of the current United States Cabinet? (Note: This question was open-ended and multiple responses were accepted, meaning, all respondents were invited to name as few or as many departments as they could. If a respondent provided the specific name of a cabinet secretary or administrator, e.g., “Colin Powell,” they were credited with a correct response.

58% DO NOT KNOW

23% DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
14% DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY
13% DEPARTMENT OF STATE
12% DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
11% DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
8% DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
8% DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
6% DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
6% DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
6% DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
6% DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
4% DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
3% DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
2% THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
2% DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
1% DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
1% UNITED STATES TRADE REPRESENTATIVE
1% OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY
* OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET
1% OTHER

the polling company™, inc/ WomanTrend is a full-service public opinion research firm in Washington DC and New York. The margin of error for the entire survey is calculated at +3.5%. Full survey results for both installments of the “Shocking Poll” are available on the web at www.pollingcompany.com. (http://www.pollingcompany.com.) The first Shocking Poll found more than twice the number of Americans could cite the number and names of the Rice Krispies Characters than the United States Supreme Court Justices.