new technics cd player

[Si Bump]

http://tek.moo.jp/_img/224.jpg

anyone got anymore info please?

cheers, simon

http://www.whistlebump.co.uk

WhistleBump with MKL - Sat Sep 6th @ Electrowerkz

[O'love]

it probably competes with the Pioneer CDJ1000 in specs/functions....

Olaf

[Fred Naked]

yeah, but it looks a helluva lot cooler!! mmmm...

[O'love]

one nice thing: it seems to have MP3 support build-in..... i am not sure if it also supports DVD, pioneer just announced a DVD-version of the CDJ1000..... imagine taking a few DVD's with mp3's with you and play an entire night....

i am still waiting for a CDJ with build-in harddisk and/or USB2/firewire connection though ;)

Olaf

[DJ76]

Wow!
http://tek.moo.jp/_img/224.jpg

if you can control the CD like a vinyl record, hmmmm!

[djyoavb]

wow :eek: from a first sight the design looks awsome!

[O'love]

i wonder if the platter is touch-sensitive, like on the pioneer CDJ800/1000... that's imho a very nice feature...

btw, i am currently talking with a large pro-audio manufacturer who seems to be very interested in my idea of creating a "vinyl warm up" box for DJ's that use CD's or other digital media (like laptops with traktor, finalscratch or ableton live) ... the idea is a simple but effective box you can connect between your mixer output and amp inputs (or cd-player and mixer input if you only use 1 cd player) with a few controls to modify the sound... it uses some form of parametric EQ to sculpt the frequency-range more into vinyl-like specs, and some kind of 2th order harmonics generation to simulate the distortion that is generated by the needle tracking the groove...... this distortion is what makes the drums on vinyl sound much "harder/louder" compared to CD.....

what do you peeps think about this? what would you like to pay for such a device? what does it need besides the basic functionality?

Olaf

[DJ Rockin' Robin]

graemlins/mecry.gif http://deephousepage.com/smilies/cry.gif

[ngeso]

any idea when it is coming out, and what it says on the pricetag?

[jurren]

wow, i want one!

it looks like it's got a spinning plate, does the pioneer have that aswell? i remember hearing people praise the pioneer when it came out, but their only complaint was that the plate didn't move like vinyl does.

jurren

[neuthelius]

Thanks for putting up the pic. It's gorgeous, especially for all the old school Tech 1200's users such as myself who've been holding out on cd use. I'm glad to see Technics get a peiece of the action. Also, I like the fact the pitch is the same direction as the 1200's.

[DJ76]

Originally posted by jurren:
wow, i want one!

it looks like it's got a spinning plate, does the pioneer have that aswell? i remember hearing people praise the pioneer when it came out, but their only complaint was that the plate didn't move like vinyl does.

jurren it looks like it is rotating judging from the reflections of that red light ;) I don't think they would put that just so it looks good. Interesting.

[%seRge%]

wow! That is a sexy as piece of equipment.
You can mount it in a console just like another turntable.
I still detest cd's, but this is making it alot harder.

[Ken1015]

http://forums.hecatemoon.com/images/smiles/as-drool.gif Awesome!

[GROOVE VICTIM]

The best looking CD player I've seen so far. Very classy look and it compliments the 1200s.

Damn, now I wish I still had a car payment!!!


:D

[Drrtynewyork]

LOOKS like the death of vinyl from here! :eek:

[JMJ]

Originally posted by DJ76:
Wow!
http://tek.moo.jp/_img/224.jpg

if you can control the CD like a vinyl record, hmmmm! Even I'M looking hard at this one!! Very impressive......JMJ graemlins/grinyes.gif

[TAD]

there's a realtime record button on the top left. could this be a burner as well?

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by DJ DOUG GOMEZ:
LOOKS like the death of vinyl from here! :eek: Why is that, the death of vinyl will only come when the demand dimishes. This is a tool and one should use it as a tool to enhance what you do best. The only thing that gets me is how we loose jobs to DJ's that download all of their music off the net. They never spend a penny on music and they end up with the gigs. I lost my latin gig to two DJ's that played super commercial crap over my vintage collection of Classic New York Salsa and Afro-Cuban jams. I was floored. AR15firing.gif mad1.gif

[Jamie 3:26]

Man,that is an work of art. hail.gif I would jump on those if I could afford them.Looks like they will give the Pioneers a run for the money.

[jurren]

just heard that these are currently only available in japan, and cost....

US$3000

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by jurren:
just heard that these are currently only available in japan, and cost....

US$3000 Well,I can wait... graemlins/rofl.gif

[ngeso]

Originally posted by Javier Drada:
The only thing that gets me is how we loose jobs to DJ's that download all of their music off the net. They never spend a penny on music...this is going to have a huge impact on dance music. from my perspective this is killing music. around me the scene has been steadily deteriorating over the last five or so years because of the download.

[O'love]

Originally posted by ngeso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Javier Drada:
The only thing that gets me is how we loose jobs to DJ's that download all of their music off the net. They never spend a penny on music...this is going to have a huge impact on dance music. from my perspective this is killing music. around me the scene has been steadily deteriorating over the last five or so years because of the download. </font>[/QUOTE]please, not this discussion again!

[JMJ]

Originally posted by jurren:
just heard that these are currently only available in japan, and cost....

US$3000 It's not THAT serious!!......JMJ graemlins/scared.gif

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ DOUG GOMEZ:
LOOKS like the death of vinyl from here! :eek: Why is that, the death of vinyl will only come when the demand dimishes. This is a tool and one should use it as a tool to enhance what you do best. The only thing that gets me is how we loose jobs to DJ's that download all of their music off the net. They never spend a penny on music and they end up with the gigs. I lost my latin gig to two DJ's that played super commercial crap over my vintage collection of Classic New York Salsa and Afro-Cuban jams. I was floored. AR15firing.gif mad1.gif </font>[/QUOTE]C'mon man.Don't blame it on those guys.Maybe you should have done the same thing.Everyone is not up on all on the tunes.Folks wanna hear shit they know.Remember you are in the south,not in NYC,where folks may know the real deal.

If you wanna eat,you gotta play what is popular. ;)

[mhd]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ DOUG GOMEZ:
LOOKS like the death of vinyl from here! :eek: Why is that, the death of vinyl will only come when the demand dimishes. This is a tool and one should use it as a tool to enhance what you do best. The only thing that gets me is how we loose jobs to DJ's that download all of their music off the net. They never spend a penny on music and they end up with the gigs. I lost my latin gig to two DJ's that played super commercial crap over my vintage collection of Classic New York Salsa and Afro-Cuban jams. I was floored. AR15firing.gif mad1.gif </font>[/QUOTE]C'mon man.Don't blame it on those guys.Maybe you should have done the same thing.Everyone is not up on all on the tunes.Folks wanna hear shit they know.Remember you are in the south,not in NYC,where folks may know the real deal.

If you wanna eat,you gotta play what is popular. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]hey j, i actually witnessed this, i had the pleasure of catching javier spin and while he is schooling me on the classic cuban jams, the crowd was loving it and the music was outstanding, then these clowns come on playing straight bullshit while distorting the system, so javier has a great point

[Jamie 3:26]

Well I did not have much to go on Mark.Since you added that the crowd loved it,then it's on the management and not him.It was not a dis at him anyways.Guess I should have some caffiene now... ;)

[Mocambo]

It looks really nice. $3,000 is a bit too pricey, tho'.

[Huey P. Freeman]

Can anyone read that model number? I want to look it up on the net but I can not read it.

[Ken1015]

Originally posted by Eargasm:
Can anyone read that model number? I want to look it up on the net but I can not read it. It looks like SL-DZ1299 to me but a search with that in various forms came up empty for me. I did get a couple links to other dance message boards with, what looks like, talk of this CD player when I Googled "technics cd turntable."

[reas]

Originally posted by Eargasm:
Can anyone read that model number? I want to look it up on the net but I can not read it. SL-DZ1200

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by reas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
Can anyone read that model number? I want to look it up on the net but I can not read it. SL-DZ1200 </font>[/QUOTE]That thing has got me salivating.

[däp]

hmmmm.

[ September 04, 2003, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: t o r i n ]

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by t o r i n:
don't like it aesthetically. doesn't look very portable but it's probabaly nice to use in a booth setting. the display doesn't appear to be very friendly either. It looks Just like a 1200 to me. I like it.

[Chris Conrad]

reality check..all the local clowns download all their music and go play at the local spots. i've done a bunch of local gigs in jersey lately, and all the local resident dj's show up with a cd wallet of downloaded music. i always ask them, and they all admit to downloading all their music. most of these mp3's sound like garbage, on systems that most of the time border on garbage themselves. i did a club two weeks ago, and the resident was schooling me aboutu how i should stop buying vinyl and juts download all my music, because its free. the best part is...he doesn't even own a computer! he has his friends download it for him and then he plays the tracks and gets paid for it! mind you, he played all widely available commercial music, mainly cheese house and hip hop. when i got on to do my set, put my cartridges in, him and his boys watched me with jaws to the floor, one even told me he didn't even know they still made vinyl. and these guys do these gigs for minimal pay, because they don't have to worry about paying for any records, and the club owners will hire them because they don't want to pay a real dj.

so we go on these boards and praise every new machine that comes out that can play mp3's...and i have no problem with people transferring their own collections to cd or mp3...but the majority of people who will be using these things are people who download all the music they play. so then we post about how club systems sound like crap and how the scene and house labels are going under because of things such as downloading...

[ September 04, 2003, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: Chris Conrad ]

[däp]

Originally posted by Eargasm:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by t o r i n:
don't like it aesthetically. doesn't look very portable but it's probabaly nice to use in a booth setting. the display doesn't appear to be very friendly either. It looks Just like a 1200 to me. I like it. </font>[/QUOTE]damn "quickdraw"! i changed my comment upon further review icon_rofl.gif the display still looks cramped.

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by t o r i n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by t o r i n:
don't like it aesthetically. doesn't look very portable but it's probabaly nice to use in a booth setting. the display doesn't appear to be very friendly either. It looks Just like a 1200 to me. I like it. </font>[/QUOTE]damn "quickdraw"! i changed my comment upon further review icon_rofl.gif the display still looks cramped. </font>[/QUOTE]:D It will probably cost an arm and a leg at first so I'm going to hold off and get a Numark Axis 9 in the meantime.

[SHEIK YERBOUTI]

Here's a closeup of the display window/ring/thingy...

http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/images/122.jpg

Maybe after it drops to below $1000...

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
[QUOTE]If you wanna eat,you gotta play what is popular. ;) That's why I have a fulltime job as an IT Manager for Marriott and do Web-design on the side. I play what I love even if I have to do it for free becaucause otherwise all these ignorant Radio wanna be DJ's will take over the whole shit. **** that... They are going to have to learn. graemlins/spanka.gif

[O'love]

Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
reality check..all the local clowns download all their music and go play at the local spots. i've done a bunch of local gigs in jersey lately, and all the local resident dj's show up with a cd wallet of downloaded music. i always ask them, and they all admit to downloading all their music. most of these mp3's sound like garbage, on systems that most of the time border on garbage themselves. i did a club two weeks ago, and the resident was schooling me aboutu how i should stop buying vinyl and juts download all my music, because its free. the best part is...he doesn't even own a computer! he has his friends download it for him and then he plays the tracks and gets paid for it! mind you, he played all widely available commercial music, mainly cheese house and hip hop. when i got on to do my set, put my cartridges in, him and his boys watched me with jaws to the floor, one even told me he didn't even know they still made vinyl. and these guys do these gigs for minimal pay, because they don't have to worry about paying for any records, and the club owners will hire them because they don't want to pay a real dj.

so we go on these boards and praise every new machine that comes out that can play mp3's...and i have no problem with people transferring their own collections to cd or mp3...but the majority of people who will be using these things are people who download all the music they play. so then we post about how club systems sound like crap and how the scene and house labels are going under because of things such as downloading... you're right..every DJ that uses CD's is a clown that downloads crappy MP3's from the internet and doesn't know shit about audio-quality...duh..

you don't wanna know how many vinyl-only DJ's i hear spinning crap-music all night long, mixing from one trainwreck into the other, and meanwhile distorting the system like hell, driving every possible gain-structure into it's limits....not to mention abusing that yellow effect-button on the pioneer mixon.....

does that mean that all vinyl-DJ's are clowns that don't care for quality music and good audio-quality? i don't think so....

i may sound a little harsh, and i obviously ignored the fact that you say that there are also exceptions to your rule, but i am getting SO sick and tired of all these people blaming the internet and downloading for the "downfall" of the musicbizz, and in one breath also tell us that DJ's using CD's are pirating clowns that are no *real* DJ's..... you dont wanna know how many clue-less newbies i've seen that only want to use vinyl because it looks so *cool* and get's them so many chicks..it's disgusting....

i run a "label" and we only press vinyl, but our music is available for nothing in MP3 format on our website....and you know what? the music is still selling, and people are actually emailing us where they can buy our music on vinyl or CD because they downed the MP3 and like it so much they wanna buy it... for THOSE people we press up our music, i couldn't care less about all the people who see music as a 1-day thing... they wouldn't buy the music anyway..let 'em download our music and spread it over all the P2P networks they can find.....the more people enjoy it, the better....

and why is it that i never hear peeps complain when f.e. Kerri Chandler is using and exploring new solutions like FinalScratch? when someone else would come up with a FS system peeps would right away start nagging about how FS users are all pirates playing crappy downloaded MP3's and killing the music industry......but their mouths are shut when one of the most important persons in our scene is using the same device..... is it only possible to use FS when you are actually a producer or famous DJ? i really don't get it..

label's should stop complaining and better offer an alternative for all the DJ's that don't want to use vinyl.....or suffer the consequences of not innovating..... big props for f.e. FK for releasing their 12"es on CD's for a very decent price, and Yellow Productions for releasing their entire Africanism-series on a full 12" mix CD-box...

Olaf

[ September 04, 2003, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: O'love ]

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
reality check..all the local clowns download all their music and go play at the local spots. i've done a bunch of local gigs in jersey lately, and all the local resident dj's show up with a cd wallet of downloaded music. i always ask them, and they all admit to downloading all their music. most of these mp3's sound like garbage, on systems that most of the time border on garbage themselves. i did a club two weeks ago, and the resident was schooling me aboutu how i should stop buying vinyl and juts download all my music, because its free. the best part is...he doesn't even own a computer! he has his friends download it for him and then he plays the tracks and gets paid for it! mind you, he played all widely available commercial music, mainly cheese house and hip hop. when i got on to do my set, put my cartridges in, him and his boys watched me with jaws to the floor, one even told me he didn't even know they still made vinyl. and these guys do these gigs for minimal pay, because they don't have to worry about paying for any records, and the club owners will hire them because they don't want to pay a real dj.

so we go on these boards and praise every new machine that comes out that can play mp3's...and i have no problem with people transferring their own collections to cd or mp3...but the majority of people who will be using these things are people who download all the music they play. so then we post about how club systems sound like crap and how the scene and house labels are going under because of things such as downloading... THANK YOU... graemlins/acclaim.gif My sentiments exactly...

[reas]

louie vega use 3 cdj-1000.

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by O'love:
[QUOTE]you're right..every DJ that uses CD's is a clown that downloads crappy MP3's from the internet and doesn't know shit about audio-quality...duh..

you don't wanna know how many vinyl-only DJ's i hear spinning crap-music all night long, mixing from one trainwreck into the other, and meanwhile distorting the system like hell, driving every possible gain-structure into it's limits....not to mention abusing that yellow effect-button on the pioneer mixon.....

does that mean that all vinyl-DJ's are clowns that don't care for quality music and good audio-quality? i don't think so....

Olaf Come on... Any idiot that doesn't know enough can make a good system sound like shit. When I play out I make it a purpose to walk out and listen to the sound system to make sure it's clean and if I need to I adjust my levels and EQ's. I don't think that takes too much intelligence, it should be common sense and you don't have to mix every freakin' record to be a good DJ you need to know how to manipulate the music accordingly and put it together the right way. You need to know how to let the music speak...

[O'love]

Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by O'love:

you're right..every DJ that uses CD's is a clown that downloads crappy MP3's from the internet and doesn't know shit about audio-quality...duh..

you don't wanna know how many vinyl-only DJ's i hear spinning crap-music all night long, mixing from one trainwreck into the other, and meanwhile distorting the system like hell, driving every possible gain-structure into it's limits....not to mention abusing that yellow effect-button on the pioneer mixon.....

does that mean that all vinyl-DJ's are clowns that don't care for quality music and good audio-quality? i don't think so....

Olaf Come on... Any idiot that doesn't know enough can make a good system sound like shit. When I play out I make it a purpose to walk out and listen to the sound system to make sure it's clean and if I need to I adjust my levels and EQ's. I don't think that takes too much intelligence, it should be common sense and you don't have to mix every freakin' record to be a good DJ you need to know how to manipulate the music accordingly and put it together the right way. You need to know how to let the music speak... </font>exactly! so what has this to do with medium and/or music-format? nothing....

Olaf

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by O'love:
[QUOTE]i run a "label" and we only press vinyl, but our music is available for nothing in MP3 format on our website....and you know what? the music is still selling, and people are actually emailing us where they can buy our music on vinyl or CD because they downed the MP3 and like it so much they wanna buy it... for THOSE people we press up our music, i couldn't care less about all the people who see music as a 1-day thing... they wouldn't buy the music anyway..let 'em download our music and spread it over all the P2P networks they can find.....the more people enjoy it, the better....

and why is it that i never hear peeps complain when f.e. Kerri Chandler is using and exploring new solutions like FinalScratch? when someone else would come up with a FS system peeps would right away start nagging about how FS users are all pirates playing crappy downloaded MP3's and killing the music industry......but their mouths are shut when one of the most important persons in our scene is using the same device..... is it only possible to use FS when you are actually a producer or famous DJ? i really don't get it..

Olaf

Olaf They are tools and should be used accordingly and responsibly. People are abusing the system and the tools, People could give a **** and that is why the industry is the way it is, the voice of those that give a shit is no where near as loud as those who are in it for other reasons. If it wasn't for people who gave a shit half of what we have now wouldn't even exist.

[däp]

Originally posted by reas:
louie vega use 3 cdj-1000. irrelevant

[Chris Conrad]

no...but the majority of people who use this and other cd players that play mp3's play downloaded music...again, i have no problem with peopel playing legit cd's or transfers of their own collections...but their is a huge trend in local clubs for cheap dj's to play free downloaded music...the owners don't care because they save tons of money...

yeah, there are clown vinyl dj's also...but at least they make an effort and buy the music or go through legitimate means to get it, whether they are underground or clown commercial dj's.

the sound qualty issue, as you said, does go far deeper, but playing downloaded mp3's doesn't make it any better, only worse. yes, there are dj's, many, who overdrive and peak out the system and play on bad mixers such as the pioneer...my problem is we are getting into a culture of efficiency and ease, where every step is a shortcut, and everything suffers down the chain

[O'love]

Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by O'love:

i run a "label" and we only press vinyl, but our music is available for nothing in MP3 format on our website....and you know what? the music is still selling, and people are actually emailing us where they can buy our music on vinyl or CD because they downed the MP3 and like it so much they wanna buy it... for THOSE people we press up our music, i couldn't care less about all the people who see music as a 1-day thing... they wouldn't buy the music anyway..let 'em download our music and spread it over all the P2P networks they can find.....the more people enjoy it, the better....

and why is it that i never hear peeps complain when f.e. Kerri Chandler is using and exploring new solutions like FinalScratch? when someone else would come up with a FS system peeps would right away start nagging about how FS users are all pirates playing crappy downloaded MP3's and killing the music industry......but their mouths are shut when one of the most important persons in our scene is using the same device..... is it only possible to use FS when you are actually a producer or famous DJ? i really don't get it..

Olaf

Olaf They are tools and should be used accordingly and responsibly. People are abusing the system and the tools, People could give a **** and that is why the industry is the way it is, the voice of those that give a shit is no where near as loud as those who are in it for other reasons. If it wasn't for people who gave a shit half of what we have now wouldn't even exist. </font>i don't know..people like FK, kerri, MAW, dennis ferrer, david mancuso etc. are very well known and respected names, and they give a shit..these people might be specific to the (deep)house scene, but still these peeps are respected and people listen to their opinions...

about using tools: i agree for some extend.... but let me ask you: why didn't the reel-to-reel destroy the music-industry? why didn't the sampler destroy the music industry?

it might not be fun to read, but after the good times there comes bad times... people are not caring so much about music anymore, it's old news to the masses, they target on other things now..it was nice when it lasted, DJ's and producers making a decent living from house-music, but now these times are almost over.... it's time to smell the coffee and find alternatives to make money, instead of nagging and complaining about the internet this and the internet that...... over here most quality DJ's are working besides their DJ-gig, and only a few international big-names can make good money over here....but not much longer anymore.... parties aren't selling out anymore, it's all decreasing...going back to the underground.... the way things go, it's all going in cycles.. and the internet has jack to do with it..

Olaf

[D J 1 3 8]

Speaking of Kerri Chandler, I've heard his FS set-up allows him to DJ remotely from the middle of the dance-floor. now THAT's some NEXT shit, fe real!

[O'love]

Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
no...but the majority of people who use this and other cd players that play mp3's play downloaded music...again, i have no problem with peopel playing legit cd's or transfers of their own collections...but their is a huge trend in local clubs for cheap dj's to play free downloaded music...the owners don't care because they save tons of money...

yeah, there are clown vinyl dj's also...but at least they make an effort and buy the music or go through legitimate means to get it, whether they are underground or clown commercial dj's.

the sound qualty issue, as you said, does go far deeper, but playing downloaded mp3's doesn't make it any better, only worse. yes, there are dj's, many, who overdrive and peak out the system and play on bad mixers such as the pioneer...my problem is we are getting into a culture of efficiency and ease, where every step is a shortcut, and everything suffers down the chain maybe blame the bar- and club-owners? it's recession..maybe if all the DJ's would ask decent fee's these clubs and bars had to close down because there wouldn't be enough profit? and DJ's would have no gigs anymore and would stop buying vinyl, and thus making more recordlabels going bankrupt and producers taking up a 9to5 dayjob? just an alternative for blaming the internet.... there are lots of possible scenarios...

of course i don't say that illegal downloading is good.... we all agree on that point i guess.... but i think there is an important overlooked point: i am 100% sure that most people that download music from the internet don't care a bit about music, and wouldn't shell out money for music in the first place if the internet wouldn't exist..... maybe we have to blame superstar-DJ culture for these clown-DJ's with downloaded MP3s? everybody wanting to be a DJ? i guess these clowns wouldn't even want to be DJ's if this superstar-DJ-culture wasn't there...they would probably buy a guitar and start playing crappy music to get all the chick ;)

i am also 100% (no proof, my personal believe) that the trouble in the music-industry would be *al least* the same way as it is now when the internet and downloading wouldn't exist....

Olaf

[Chris Conrad]

Originally posted by O'love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by O'love:

i run a "label" and we only press vinyl, but our music is available for nothing in MP3 format on our website....and you know what? the music is still selling, and people are actually emailing us where they can buy our music on vinyl or CD because they downed the MP3 and like it so much they wanna buy it... for THOSE people we press up our music, i couldn't care less about all the people who see music as a 1-day thing... they wouldn't buy the music anyway..let 'em download our music and spread it over all the P2P networks they can find.....the more people enjoy it, the better....

and why is it that i never hear peeps complain when f.e. Kerri Chandler is using and exploring new solutions like FinalScratch? when someone else would come up with a FS system peeps would right away start nagging about how FS users are all pirates playing crappy downloaded MP3's and killing the music industry......but their mouths are shut when one of the most important persons in our scene is using the same device..... is it only possible to use FS when you are actually a producer or famous DJ? i really don't get it..

Olaf

Olaf They are tools and should be used accordingly and responsibly. People are abusing the system and the tools, People could give a **** and that is why the industry is the way it is, the voice of those that give a shit is no where near as loud as those who are in it for other reasons. If it wasn't for people who gave a shit half of what we have now wouldn't even exist. </font>i don't know..people like FK, kerri, MAW, dennis ferrer, david mancuso etc. are very well known and respected names, and they give a shit..these people might be specific to the (deep)house scene, but still these peeps are respected and people listen to their opinions...

about using tools: i agree for some extend.... but let me ask you: why didn't the reel-to-reel destroy the music-industry? why didn't the sampler destroy the music industry?

it might not be fun to read, but after the good times there comes bad times... people are not caring so much about music anymore, it's old news to the masses, they target on other things now..it was nice when it lasted, DJ's and producers making a decent living from house-music, but now these times are almost over.... it's time to smell the coffee and find alternatives to make money, instead of nagging and complaining about the internet this and the internet that...... over here most quality DJ's are working besides their DJ-gig, and only a few international big-names can make good money over here....but not much longer anymore.... parties aren't selling out anymore, it's all decreasing...going back to the underground.... the way things go, it's all going in cycles.. and the internet has jack to do with it..

Olaf </font>[/QUOTE]FK is also experimenting with much higher quality recording methods than mp3's...read his own board, he even hates regular cd's...i have nothign againsta advancing and making money in other ways or formats...my beef is that a lot of dj's will simply download the music for free without buying it...that is what i personally see in all the local clubs and bars...they freely admit to it..these people are proud of the fact that they don't have to spend a dime on music, load up a few cd's with downloaded mp3's and play a night for $50. i am pretty sure people like FK are not playing music downloaded on Kazaa the night before...

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by O'love:
i am 100% sure that most people that download music from the internet don't care a bit about music, and wouldn't shell out money for music in the first place if the internet wouldn't exist.....This is not true in my experience. Most people that I know used to buy ALOT of music, and now buy none whatsoever, becuz they have traded in their walkman for an IPOD and all of their music comes from the web.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Chris, very credible arguments, but what happens when you run into a label (I ain't sayin any names) that won't release shit that's been out for an entire year and they know for a fact that it's a hit record in the clubs?

Peace

[blackwax]

Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Here's a closeup of the display window/ring/thingy...

http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/images/122.jpg

Maybe after it drops to below $1000... 186 BPM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[SHEIK YERBOUTI]

Originally posted by blackwax:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Here's a closeup of the display window/ring/thingy...


Maybe after it drops to below $1000... 186 BPM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe he's playing the new Epic Progressive Trance n Bass choon... (Hey, I think I coined a new genre. Maybe I can get a job writing for a Brit magazine ;) )

[ September 04, 2003, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: toomuchtv ]

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
[QUOTE]This is not true in my experience. Most people that I know used to buy ALOT of music, and now buy none whatsoever, becuz they have traded in their walkman for an IPOD and all of their music comes from the web. Word... Here I am busting my ass working so that I can afford my $400 a month habit so that in turn I can go out there and place some descent shit and Joe Smoe didn't spend a dime and he has the gigs. Something is wrong with that picture. What if everyone quit spending money on music Joe Smoe would take over with his low quality downloaded files and then what would happen to Indie lables??? Do You know how many labels in Detroit closed shop this past year???

[TAD]

so does it record?

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
so does it record? Not only does it record, it rolls your blunts and wipes for you. biggrinangel.gif

[ivanjb]

Originally posted by blackwax:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Here's a closeup of the display window/ring/thingy...


Maybe after it drops to below $1000... 186 BPM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA </font>[/QUOTE]It says +30 pitch. Must be pitched up / demoing.

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
so does it record? Not only does it record, it rolls your blunts and wipes for you. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/tongueout.gif

[SHEIK YERBOUTI]

Originally posted by Eargasm:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
so does it record? Not only does it record, it rolls your blunts and wipes for you. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/tongueout.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Shoot, for 3g's each, it better drive me to the club and set itself and the rest of my gear up for me! :D

[GrantB]

Originally posted by Javier Drada:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
so does it record? Not only does it record, it rolls your blunts and wipes for you. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah right, it rolls you a blocky digital simulation of a blunt, the effects of which are more like sherm... and the wiping? I would never let that cold, harsh, stairsteppy aliasing touch my bunghole! I'll take some good old fashioned analog TP any day! :D

Seriously though, it looks very neato. I would like to hear it.

[neuthelius]

I'm still trying to locate it on the net. I'm hoping this isn't a creative person getting smooth with Photoshop. You would think it wouldn't be that hard to find.

[Mark Gurney]

I spoke to Eitan at Sapphires yesterday.
Apparently it won't be available in the UK till mid Jan/Feb & will cost around £700 to compete with the Pioneer 1000mkII. It does have a spinning platter & a prototype will be at this weekends Plasa show so expect the Technics stand to be rammed !

[The Buddy Love Show]

The wheel apparently comes full circle. I own the Technics SL-P1300..a broadcast quality unit with pitch control that they released about 10 years ago...very advanced for its time but it weigh 20lbs if its an ounce...interesting

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by Mark Gurney:
I spoke to Eitan at Sapphires yesterday.
Apparently it won't be available in the UK till mid Jan/Feb & will cost around £700 to compete with the Pioneer 1000mkII. It does have a spinning platter & a prototype will be at this weekends Plasa show so expect the Technics stand to be rammed ! That's about $1100 US. That is not bad. I would buy it in a heartbeat for that price.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
The wheel apparently comes full circle. I own the Technics SL-P1300..a broadcast quality unit with pitch control that they released about 10 years ago...very advanced for its time but it weigh 20lbs if its an ounce...interesting I always wanted one of those players.They look just like a 1210.Actually,that player was out in the late 80's.

[darrow]

has anyone seen any official press from Panasonic/Technics on this?