DID ANYONE HEAR ABOUT THE KIDS THAT WERE STARVED BY THEIR FOSTER PARENTS?

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

I think it was about 3 or 4 children, the oldest 18.
They were found digging through the garbage for food.
Between the 3 or 4 of them they weighed about 136lbs.
(that may not be accurate) but somewhere around that much.
Can anyone give more details?

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

I heard the tail end of it this morning, it was on Tom Joyner's Morning Show. Anyone have more details?

[TAD]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/28/national/main580372.shtml

[Mack-Williams]

I have a girlfriend that lived in a Foster Home and the horry stories she tells me is frighting. I can't believe that people would do such terrible things to kids. She will be telling me some stuff and I will be almost in tears.

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

This story brought tears to my eye's.


October 27, 2003 -- The sicko New Jersey couple who starved their four sons apparently preferred their daughters - allowing them to pig out in front of the boys, authorities said.
While the little girls could be seen frolicking in a small pool behind the family's house in the middle-class Philadelphia suburb of Collingswood in the summer, the tragic skin-and-bones boys were forced to wash their clothes in a bucket on the side of the house and clip the grass with small hand shears, neighbors said.
"I thought the boys had AIDS. That's why I never called anyone," one shaken neighbor said yesterday.
The boys - ages 9, 10, 14 and 19 - weren't wasting away from disease, but from the stomach-churning neglect of their parents, Raymond Jackson, 50, and his 48-year-old wife, Vanessa, authorities charge.
The boys, who had been adopted between 1995 and 1997, were locked out of the kitchen and given only uncooked pancake batter, peanut butter and jelly and cereal to eat, officials said.
The boys told authorities they thought they were getting more nutrients by also eating bits of the home's wallboard and insulation.
Meanwhile, the girls - two adopted, ages 5 and 10, and a 12-year-old in the process of being adopted - were allowed to order Chinese takeout and chow down in front of the boys, authorities said.
"The girls were heavy and well-fed," neighbor Dee Evans said.
By comparison, the oldest boy stunned cops when he told them he was 19. They caught him rummaging through a neighbor's trash for food, and the family horror was finally exposed.
He was a pathetic 4 feet tall and weighed 45 pounds - about the size of a normal 6-year-old.
The children lived with the Jacksons and their biological son and daughter, both in their 20s, who also appeared healthy.
Neighbor Pete DiMattia said he tried to reach out to the boys over the years, but every time "you would ask the kids if anything was wrong, they would say, 'No, Mr. Pete. Everything's fine.'
"They said that for years."
DiMattia said he was especially upset when he brought back toys for the boys after a vacation. Later, when he asked one of the girls if her brothers liked the gifts, she said, "No, they're not allowed to play with toys."
He said the family went to church every Sunday and sang gospel songs back at the house at night - a cruel facade masking what life was really like.
On Friday, when the Jacksons were arrested, DiMattia said Ray came up to him, shook his hand and said, "It's just a misunderstanding."
"I hope they throw the book at him," DiMattia said.
The couple, who essentially lived off stipends they got from the government for the children, were each being held in lieu of $100,000 bail.
The state case worker who had been assigned to oversee the 12-year-old girl's pending adoption has resigned, officials said.
Kevin Ryan, head of the state's new Office of the Child Advocate, summed up the case this way:
"We have a caseworker who went to a house 38 times in two years, and many of those times, she saw all seven children, and she reported in the case record that those children were all safe, despite the fact that the utilities had been turned off for the last six months, the kitchen doors were locked shut and the four boys were obviously starving."
The parents claimed that the boys suffered from eating disorders that made them so scrawny.
Authorities said a physical exam proved otherwise.
With Post Wire Services

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Portrait

[gabriel]

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2003/10/27/nyregion/28jers.jpg

boys are the 3 in front of the parents (on the left) and the 19 yr old is the boy behind and to the right of the mother.

this story is insanely depressing.

[Hello Kitty]

I say give the Foster Parents the same treatment for whatever years they're convicted! Only pancake batter & raw cereal locked up in a cage!

Un freaken REAL!

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[DLow]

I read about this this morning. If I'm not mistaken, even the 19 yr old was around 50lbs...he's still in the hospital. :(

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Portrait of family. The boys look terrible.


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[sammyrock]

http://www.sammyrockmusic.org/baby.gif This is just as bad...how it be??

[alex zen]

how can people be so sick? i wonder if they were allowed to go to school.

[gabriel]

19 yr old said he hadn't seen a school or a restaurant since 1996

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by sammyrock:
http://www.sammyrockmusic.org/baby.gif This is just as bad...how it be?? This can't be real

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by sammyrock:
http://www.sammyrockmusic.org/baby.gif This is just as bad...how it be?? Sammy where did you get this photo? What's the addy?

[ October 28, 2003, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: Dee-Dee Sheridan ]

[DISKOQUEEN99]

Like I said before in the case of the child left home alone for couple of weeks, this stuff happens all the time. You just don't hear about it until someone notices/reports it.

[ October 28, 2003, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: DISKOQUEEN99 ]

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by DISKOQUEEN99:
Like I said before in the case of the child left home alone for couple of weeks, this stuff happens all the time. You just don't hear about it until someone notices/reports it. It's a damn shame. I couldn't imagine anything happening this terrible.

[Discogoddess]

All the talk of racial genocide seems unwarranted. We seem to be commiting racial and cultural suicide just fine....

[dj c-los]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2003/10/27/nyregion/28jers.jpg

boys are the 3 in front of the parents (on the left) and the 19 yr old is the boy behind and to the right of the mother.

this story is insanely depressing. Never mind.
Poor kids.

[ October 28, 2003, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: clos7 ]

[housebe4titties]

Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
By comparison, the oldest boy stunned cops when he told them he was 19. He was a pathetic 4 feet tall and weighed 45 pounds - about the size of a normal 6-year-old.
:eek: :(

[Mack-Williams]

My girlfriend was telling me when she was in her Foster Home, they locked the refrigarator(sp) and they ate when Parents wanted them to eat.

[Terri 447]

"We have a caseworker who went to a house 38 times in two years, and many of those times, she saw all seven children, and she reported in the case record that those children were all safe, despite the fact that the utilities had been turned off for the last six months, the kitchen doors were locked shut and the four boys were obviously starving."

WTF?!?! THE CASEWORKER WENT TO THE HOUSE 38 TIMES AND DIDN'T REPORT IT?!?!?! HE/SHE SHOULD BE FIRED FROM HIS/HER JOB!!

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[Discogoddess]

Originally posted by Terri 447:
"We have a caseworker who went to a house 38 times in two years, and many of those times, she saw all seven children, and she reported in the case record that those children were all safe, despite the fact that the utilities had been turned off for the last six months, the kitchen doors were locked shut and the four boys were obviously starving."

WTF?!?! THE CASEWORKER WENT TO THE HOUSE 38 TIMES AND DIDN'T REPORT IT?!?!?! HE/SHE SHOULD BE FIRED FROM HIS/HER JOB!!

mad1.gif graemlins/cussing.gif graemlins/cussing.gif mad1.gif I believe the state has fired several caseworkers involved in this situation, and is exploring possible criminal charges. Oh, and the article I read said that NJ is reviewing a gang of cases that received positive assessments to make sure that the workers involved with those cases weren't lying on those, too.

[dj c-los]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2003/10/27/nyregion/28jers.jpg

boys are the 3 in front of the parents (on the left) and the 19 yr old is the boy behind and to the right of the mother.

this story is insanely depressing. That is messed up. Unfortunately, parents might be out soon. The judicial system usually pisses me off with its loopholes. We'll see how this story unfoilds cuz i know we haven't heard the last of it.

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

Originally posted by Discogoddess:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Terri 447:
"We have a caseworker who went to a house 38 times in two years, and many of those times, she saw all seven children, and she reported in the case record that those children were all safe, despite the fact that the utilities had been turned off for the last six months, the kitchen doors were locked shut and the four boys were obviously starving."

WTF?!?! THE CASEWORKER WENT TO THE HOUSE 38 TIMES AND DIDN'T REPORT IT?!?!?! HE/SHE SHOULD BE FIRED FROM HIS/HER JOB!!

mad1.gif graemlins/cussing.gif graemlins/cussing.gif mad1.gif I believe the state has fired several caseworkers involved in this situation, and is exploring possible criminal charges. Oh, and the article I read said that NJ is reviewing a gang of cases that received positive assessments to make sure that the workers involved with those cases weren't lying on those, too. </font>[/QUOTE]That's why the heifa resigned, she knew she would be in trouble.

And for that family, Those boys should have roasted and ate the fat a** momma and daughters.

[dj c-los]

Originally posted by DiscoLady:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Discogoddess:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Terri 447:
"We have a caseworker who went to a house 38 times in two years, and many of those times, she saw all seven children, and she reported in the case record that those children were all safe, despite the fact that the utilities had been turned off for the last six months, the kitchen doors were locked shut and the four boys were obviously starving."

WTF?!?! THE CASEWORKER WENT TO THE HOUSE 38 TIMES AND DIDN'T REPORT IT?!?!?! HE/SHE SHOULD BE FIRED FROM HIS/HER JOB!!

mad1.gif graemlins/cussing.gif graemlins/cussing.gif mad1.gif I believe the state has fired several caseworkers involved in this situation, and is exploring possible criminal charges. Oh, and the article I read said that NJ is reviewing a gang of cases that received positive assessments to make sure that the workers involved with those cases weren't lying on those, too. </font>[/QUOTE]That's why the heifa resigned, she knew she would be in trouble.

And for that family, Those boys should have roasted and ate the fat a** momma and daughters. </font>[/QUOTE]I'm glad you said that cuz i was thinking the same thing.

[ October 28, 2003, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: clos7 ]

[DISKOQUEEN99]

And what kind of sexist shit was this? Feed the girls but not the boys. These state agencies are so willing to place these kids somewhere; they're supposed to be screened carefully but the truth is, they just are looking for a quick place to put kids. These people only do it for the money. These workers don't really check on these kids after they're placed like they should. That's how at least 200+ children in the Illinois system were lost in the shuffle and their whereabouts unknown. Another thing is, people are registering to get foster kids as a source of income for themselves. A non-relative gets more than a relative; this is why first they seek to find a willing relative to put the kids off on; to save the state money. Grandparents are getting stuck with grandkids after they've gotten rid of their own kids. These state agencies deserve all the flack they get. Although in this case, I'm confused as to why the 19 year old went for this. I'd think he had the mental capacity to do something, or no?

[SuzanneT]

This is so sad and so evil, that words can't really express how I feel. And yet we wonder why there is so much violence in the world. It will be a miracle if ANY of these children grow up to be normal adults - the boys as well as the girls. Abuse, whether they experience it 1st hand or are just a witnesses to it, will mess them all up mentally. These people who become foster parents for the checks and slave labor are preying upon children who have obviously already suffered greatly in some shape, form, or fashion, otherwise they wouldnt be in the foster program to begin with. Part of me wishes for something equally bad to happen to those parents (the part of me that still remembers what its like to be a little kid who had a fantastic child hood) but the level- headed adult part of me just wants them incarcerated for the next 20 yrs. Not that it will solve anything or even repair the damage to those children. When I read or hear of stuff like this, I finally "get" what the Bible means when it says "The sins of the parent are visited upon the children" because these children are suffering not because of the choices that they have made but because of the choices that their psrents and other caregivers have made.

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by DISKOQUEEN99:
[QBAlthough in this case, I'm confused as to why the 19 year old went for this. I'd think he had the mental capacity to do something, or no? [/QB]I'm wondering why the other children didn't say anything to anyone. You'de think they'de had some sympathy for their adopted brother's.

[gabriel]

and risk not being able to eat?

[Jamie 3:26]

I'm trying not to cry from this.I hate to see folks just abuse children.I can not have children and I know if I could,I would not do a thing to harm them.

Some folks do not understand what a blessing it is to be able to have children.I am really hurting from this...

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
and risk not being able to eat? Not if the authorities were notified.

The girls were loved by the foster parents, it was the boys that were treated like schit. The girls ate food right in the boys faces. Ordering Chinese food etc. That's teaching the kids to be mean, stingy & cruel.

[housebe4titties]

my mother is about to have some foster kids fulltime. i will definitely send her this article. she told me that while taking her classes to become a foster parent she met this girl who is 23 with 2 or 3 foster kids.

she keeps saying how she wants to get a teenager, and 1 or 2 little girls under 10. but she's not hearing me when i tell her she has to be careful. especially with the teens. i even made her watch antoine fisher. but i still don't think she 'gets it.' i'm not sure how to make her understand.

i'm fully supportive of her decision to become a foster parent, because i'm opting not to have kids and am choosing to adopt when i get older and ready.

but the things these kids go through are messed up. it takes a special person to be able to get to know these kids to help them.

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

New Jersey couple who starved their four sons apparently preferred their daughters - allowing them to pig out in front of the boys, authorities said.
While the little girls could be seen frolicking in a small pool behind the family's house in the middle-class Philadelphia suburb of Collingswood in the summer, the tragic skin-and-bones boys were forced to wash their clothes in a bucket on the side of the house and clip the grass with small hand shears, neighbors said.
The boys told authorities they thought they were getting more nutrients by also eating bits of the home's wallboard and insulation.
Meanwhile, the girls - two adopted, ages 5 and 10, and a 12-year-old in the process of being adopted - were allowed to order Chinese takeout and chow down in front of the boys, authorities said.

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This is right here is enough to make you break
down & cry. Then after the tears have dried kick
some ass.
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[ October 28, 2003, 03:28 PM: Message edited by: Dee-Dee Sheridan ]

[Dee-Dee Sheridan]

Bump for bill hardy

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

Originally posted by Dee-Dee Sheridan:
New Jersey couple who starved their four sons apparently preferred their daughters - allowing them to pig out in front of the boys, authorities said.
While the little girls could be seen frolicking in a small pool behind the family's house in the middle-class Philadelphia suburb of Collingswood in the summer, the tragic skin-and-bones boys were forced to wash their clothes in a bucket on the side of the house and clip the grass with small hand shears, neighbors said.
The boys told authorities they thought they were getting more nutrients by also eating bits of the home's wallboard and insulation.
Meanwhile, the girls - two adopted, ages 5 and 10, and a 12-year-old in the process of being adopted - were allowed to order Chinese takeout and chow down in front of the boys, authorities said.

________________________________________
This is right here is enough to make you break
down & cry. Then after the tears have dried kick
some ass.
________________________________________ The thing that makes me more angry is that on the picture they had the nerve to smile like one big happy family. Also I've noticed that they would go to church, fellowship, sing gospel songs in the back at home graemlins/scared.gif Meanwhile, they were treating the boys like this?! It's worse to be a bible thumping hypocrit than a worldly, horrible person. At least bad people know that they are bad but the folk that hide behind God and the Bible need to be seriously be punished. I am sure they will get their just reward.


Their punishment should include an all expense paid trip to Sudan or Ethiopia. mad1.gif

[DISKOQUEEN99]

http://a799.g.akamai.net/3/799/388/7e5252c506cb43/www.msnbc.com/d/v/250x190/tdy_fratangelo_njadopt_031028.jpg


But look at this boy! This is the 19yr old! He's like only 4 ft tall and weighed about 50 pounds. They said he and another of the kids do have eating disorders and that may have contributed to stunting their growth. Some of the neighbors said they thought the kids had AIDS. This is awful.