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liL Ray
03-24-2003, 07:34 AM
...that the majority don't want. Bush will go to Congress today to get money to pay for it....and you know how it will be paid for....cuts, cuts, and more cuts.

Maybe when folks property and income taxes start to rise they will then go in the streets and protest. Until then, the "oh, well" attitude will continue.

....liL Ray

Ken1015
03-24-2003, 07:39 AM
This is like what I was recently telling a friend who is in support of this so-called war. I said when you get the bill I bet you won't be so supportive anymore.

GROOVE VICTIM
03-24-2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by liL Ray:
...that the majority don't want. Bush will go to Congress today to get money to pay for it....and you know how it will be paid for....cuts, cuts, and more cuts.

Maybe when folks property and income taxes start to rise they will then go in the streets and protest. Until then, the "oh, well" attitude will continue.

....liL Ray 60 Billion to support the war, the rest of the change to fund the after math.

Be prepared in the future peeps!!

Peace

liL Ray
03-24-2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:

the rest of the change to fund the after math.

What's that?......the cost of moving in machinery for Occidental Petroleum and paying off their top big wigs?

[ March 24, 2003, 07:50 AM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

DJ76
03-24-2003, 07:50 AM
and that money's going back into the pockets of the big oil corporations once that pipeline through Afghanistan is secured and that the oil from Iraq is pumping. So basically, they're taking the money out of your pockets and giving it to the rich. Oh and those weapons... who's getting paid for making them?

liL Ray
03-24-2003, 07:52 AM
Damn, DJ76, we are on the same page..

Wild i
03-24-2003, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by DJ76:
and that money's going back into the pockets of the big oil corporations once that pipeline through Afghanistan is secured and that the oil from Iraq is pumping. So basically, they're taking the money out of your pockets and giving it to the rich. Oh and those weapons... who's getting paid for making them? AND...

Don't forget these are the same fat cats who own the munitions plans, vehicle plants, airplane plants, clothing plants, and on, and on...

DJ76
03-24-2003, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by liL Ray:
Damn, DJ76, we are on the same page.. a historic moment, i tell ya! graemlins/rofl.gif

liL Ray
03-24-2003, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by DJ76:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
Damn, DJ76, we are on the same page.. a historic moment, i tell ya! graemlins/rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]hahahhahahaha...I will mark this day in my planner. :D

Leslie
03-24-2003, 08:20 AM
Don't forget about those HUGE tax breaks those companies that will go in and "Marshall Plan" Iraq.

Yes, the future...while people here inthe USA are STILL losing jobs, and the cost of living going up (ready for the Metro Card increase NYC?), this is less money the Fed govt will give to States, etc...the ole trickle down theory does work after all...

lola desire
03-24-2003, 08:28 AM
The Blusterizer - Automatically Update Un-American Names! (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0312/fiore.php)

jurren
03-24-2003, 08:29 AM
interested where you money goes? click! (http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm)

Cheddar
03-24-2003, 08:33 AM
Cheney gets some... (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15445)

liL Ray
03-24-2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by 1343:
Cheney gets some... (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15445) this article makes me sick.....these bastards better find some 'weapons of mass destruction'....which I doubt. This article shows why they authorize the war.

Cheddar
03-24-2003, 09:02 AM
Like Oliver North and every other ex-general we get as an analyst on FOX or CNN...
Article... (http://www.rense.com/general36/smsl.htm)

GROOVE VICTIM
03-24-2003, 09:05 AM
I see alot of these ex military officers to be as useless as some of the reporters in the studios. Their overconfidence in the strategy being used in this war is always in question, and they repeat the same crap every hour on the hour. I'm glad to see that Stormin Norman is not part of this crowd in a daily basis.

Peace

formerly known as kenspank
03-24-2003, 12:44 PM
on the 1040 form, one of the first lines says something like "do you want $3 to go to the presidential campaign fund?" yes or no. they should add another line for this war thing. people who want to pay for the war should pay. people who don't shouldn't have to. or else what's the point of dissenting if in the end you end up supporting the war with your tax dollars anyway?

mdpm99
03-24-2003, 06:07 PM
Greetings Lil Ray:

Mr. Bu$h is just one continuous string of Bad News Announcements:

1. Unemployment up to 5.8% from 4.0%
2. Stock Market Dow at 7500, which is only 60% of where he inheirited it.
3. Budget went from $227B Surplus to $350B Deficit.
4. Home Foreclosures up by 35%
5. Personal Bankruptcies up by 30%
6. World Opinion of Bush Administration & Policies at 40 year low
7. 401K's went to 301K's to 201k's

etc., etc, etc.

Peace on Earth

d

Save the Children!

Ps.


The Lord Bush's Prayer

Our Father, which art in Houston
Hollowed be Thy Name
Thy Kingdom come as I make a Dynasty!
Thy will be done (gotta make you proud, Daddy!)
All over earth as it is in Washington.

Give us this day our daily dough (as in green stuff and oil reserves!);
And forgive us our debts -- Harken, Bush Exploration and Arbusto of Midland -- as we screw our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation to care about any of those damned lazy Dem welfare moms
But deliver us from the Evil One,
For mine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever.

Amen.

[ March 24, 2003, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

Jolyon
03-24-2003, 06:55 PM
For mine is the United Kingdom...

graemlins/scared.gif

Cheddar
03-25-2003, 07:40 AM
More, more, moreeeee (http://www.rense.com/general36/FAT.HTM)

GROOVE VICTIM
03-25-2003, 07:47 AM
Let's just make it our will to not have this man in office when the next election arrives, just like his old man was booted from the same seat.

jurren
03-25-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by david mancuso:
Mr. Bu$h is just one continuous string of Bad News Announcements:

1. Unemployment up to 5.8% from 4.0%
2. Stock Market Dow at 7500, which is only 60% of where he inheirited it.
3. Budget went from $227B Surplus to $350B Deficit.
4. Home Foreclosures up by 35%
5. Personal Bankruptcies up by 30%
6. World Opinion of Bush Administration & Policies at 40 year low
7. 401K's went to 301K's to 201k's

etc., etc, etc.

mr mancuso,

as much as i would like to agree on bush being a world wide dissaster, there's a few things i'd like to point out.

the economy is heading for a depression; this is something that happens every couple of years. we had a couple of extreme good years, and now we're facing a couple of years that are going to be not so good. bush is not to blame for this. this recession is going on all over the world, giving credit for all of this to only one man [and his administration] is not fair.

had al gore won the toss for white house, unemployement, etc had gone up and down aswell. if it would have been in the same numbers on the other hand is debatable.

jurren

C hristian
03-25-2003, 10:40 AM
D- exactly. Ever since he became president, I wake up every day, turn on the radio, and listen to how the guy messed up some more, or his intentional efforts to impede upon my (and others) pursuit of happiness. HArdly a day goes by that I don't have to swallow what he has done.

Has he done ANY legislative good since being POTUS? Can anyone think of ANYTHING? OK, you guys got your tax cuts back, but aside from that. Any good laws he's passed?

Now I'm thinking myself. He did sign McCain Feingold bill on Campaign finance, that was a surprise. But before he signed it early one morning, with no annoucement to McCain, he called up Mitch McConnell to prepare him for the news. Mitch is gonna take it out in the courts so that now the Supreme Court will make the de facto law/decision.

Anything else?

bitonti
03-25-2003, 10:49 AM
jurren is right, those numbers are a little skewed - the tech bubble that Clinton rode through 8 years was one of the greatest periods of American properity in a good long time -

once the bottom fell out, all the good things that Clinton took credit for dissipated and a growing mess was left for whoever was to follow, be it Gore or Bush or whoever.

Don't get me wrong i seriously dislike W and his policies, but its too early to blame the bad economy on him. That won't stop people from doing it though - lets hope for "regime change" in 2004!

mdpm99
03-25-2003, 12:19 PM
Like Father----Like son--One Term

d

[ March 25, 2003, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

Jolyon
03-25-2003, 12:23 PM
Do the Democrats have a decent candidate lined up though?

lyot
03-25-2003, 12:34 PM
this is simply outrageous..! I f*cking can't believe that he is not willing to reserve a decent amount of funds for the restructering and rebuilding of Iraq..I know this is only a budget for the first 30 days of war, but he could have reserved a budget for 'post-war Iraq', to show that liberating the Iraqi people is more then just dropping bombs.

And the nerve of this all : the US is expecting that the money for all this is goin' to come from the United Nations..What an insolence!

sammyrock
03-25-2003, 05:47 PM
UNACCEPTABLE! this money can not only feed the enite world,but buy a house for all of us....at say $50,000 a piece in butt-hole sunny florida...*I saw someone holding up a sign reading "Deport Jamie Lennox" back to Wankerhassee Florida.............lol biggrinangel.gif

Cheddar
03-26-2003, 07:57 AM
very Much so...about $$$$ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2884701.stm)

Cheddar
03-26-2003, 08:05 AM
& another one.. (http://www.rense.com/general36/sub.htm)