Shelter

[Shalewa]

So I get to Shelter on Sunday morning all set up for the Andre Collins experience and start wondering what is up as soon as I hit the corner...people are leaving the club. "Hmmm" I think, "must be too hot up in there or something, cause the way Andre does it folks just can't leave". Get to the window see the DJ list posted and think, "I wonder why they listed folks in reverse order, cause I knew that my sources said Andre was closing". I quickly make my way up the stairs and find a relatively sparse dancefloor. I find that I have walked into a funky set of House classics being put down by Sting International. Andre had played much earlier. Oh well.

While I was certainly dissappointed that my inside info had been inaccurate I have to say I had a really grand time at the club. What follows is an argument for playing "the same 30 records". Sting played a set of music that I have at home but never get to hear out anymore. He played a set where I knew all the words and all the breaks. He played a set that had memories of days gone by coming up and out in my dancing. Yeah he played mostly classics, Disco and House straight ahead no journeys to the B-side of things and I LOVED IT!!!!!!!! I miss hearing those records and being transported to those places in my soul that they evoke. Not a whole lot of folks were there, but those of us who were got down. I have to say that my happiest, highest moment was when he played "klubtrance". That record moves me like few others have. Ever. I was also profoundly moved by "Running Away," DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot.

The quality and the level of the movement in that place was tremendous. I mean all the folks who stayed were getting down to the real nitty gritty, and opening themselves up to the music (you should have seen the performing going on when "Hit and Run" dropped :eek: !!). It was a tremendous morning. Thanks Sting for the journey back into the heart of this thing. Nicely navigated,sir. hail.gif

[Insert pseudonym here]

Glad you had a good time, hopefully you did a couple of hitch kicks and time steps for me!

Miss ya much
and thanks for the
report.

[Tee Mallory]

Shalewa I've caught Sting at the Shelter a couple of times and I have to commend him on his technical ability and the way he can take you back to different eras of the underground scene. I can't tell from your post if he played any current tracks but it's quite possible a lot of new stuff was played before you got there.

You'll get different views from different djs but IMO you gotta keep those familiar recurrents in your programming especially if they still move the crowd. That's the stuff that touches the soul.

TM

[statuskuo]

Sting Intn'l is the only one i've heard rocking "Klubtrance" (it was at Vinyl), one of my fave tracks. maybe i just need to get out more.

[D J 1 3 8]

Yeah, Sting was burning that place down! :D

"Flying Saucer" had me tripping. And his little Ten City run-through was nice too. Oh yeah, who does that old track "Music is Something Spec-ial..."?

[Tee Mallory]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
Yeah, Sting was burning that place down! :D

"Flying Saucer" had me tripping. And his little Ten City run-through was nice too. Oh yeah, who does that old track "Music is Something Spec-ial..."? Probably "Life is Something Special" by the Peech Boys. Great Garage classic.

[Maria]

Life is Something Special, Special,
Can you dig it?
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, Can you feel it?SPECIAL...Music is Something Special......

Only a bunch of heads can deal with a speaker goin up in smoke, get their shit off on on the roof and calmly get back to the floor after the smoke clears, that was SPEEEEECIALLLLLLLLLLLLL....

I missed Andre too and Ray!!!!!!! My back is achin, my feet's too hot, my body's shakin' from left to right graemlins/respekt.gif

Sting went there and back and he got some of the newer stuff in there like the Donnie record too! Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, we will be in Prospect Park on Saturday evening for Donnie and Jodi Watley, don't miss the free show if you can make it.

Pernell on the Broadwalk is always funky as hell and this past Saturday was off the hook, he goes there with the funk, I love that sh*t, I just love it, I go there hoping he'll play POTENTIAL, didn't happen this week but I know with enough karma thrown his way..... graemlins/grinyes.gif Funkaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy...love it!

[Mike Johnson]

Originally posted by Shalewa:
What follows is an argument for playing "the same 30 records". Sting played a set of music that I have at home but never get to hear out anymore. He played a set where I knew all the words and all the breaks. He played a set that had memories of days gone by coming up and out in my dancing. Yeah he played mostly classics, Disco and House straight ahead no journeys to the B-side of things and I LOVED IT!!!!!!!! I miss hearing those records and being transported to those places in my soul that they evoke.......DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot. SHABANG! Well said, Shalewa. And a good report also hail.gif

[DJ76]

Originally posted by Shalewa:
So I get to Shelter on Sunday morning all set up for the Andre Collins experience and start wondering what is up as soon as I hit the corner...people are leaving the club. "Hmmm" I think, "must be too hot up in there or something, cause the way Andre does it folks just can't leave". Get to the window see the DJ list posted and think, "I wonder why they listed folks in reverse order, cause I knew that my sources said Andre was closing". I quickly make my way up the stairs and find a relatively sparse dancefloor. I find that I have walked into a funky set of House classics being put down by Sting International. Andre had played much earlier. Oh well.

While I was certainly dissappointed that my inside info had been inaccurate I have to say I had a really grand time at the club. What follows is an argument for playing "the same 30 records". Sting played a set of music that I have at home but never get to hear out anymore. He played a set where I knew all the words and all the breaks. He played a set that had memories of days gone by coming up and out in my dancing. Yeah he played mostly classics, Disco and House straight ahead no journeys to the B-side of things and I LOVED IT!!!!!!!! I miss hearing those records and being transported to those places in my soul that they evoke. Not a whole lot of folks were there, but those of us who were got down. I have to say that my happiest, highest moment was when he played "klubtrance". That record moves me like few others have. Ever. I was also profoundly moved by "Running Away," DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot.

The quality and the level of the movement in that place was tremendous. I mean all the folks who stayed were getting down to the real nitty gritty, and opening themselves up to the music (you should have seen the performing going on when "Hit and Run" dropped :eek: !!). It was a tremendous morning. Thanks Sting for the journey back into the heart of this thing. Nicely navigated,sir. hail.gif Hello Shalewa.

I felt the same way two weeks ago when I heard Dj Spinna, he was playing songs we knew very well and it just felt good. I can't describe it better words than you did, but there I was hearing The Bottle, Soul Makossa, It's Alright I feel It, You can do it baby... all these songs classified as "obvious": they are obvious for a reason, people like them. Spinna really made people happy, I think that's what counts.

[Brut by Faberge]

yeah... I believe it sometimes takes more or as much balls and skills to drop one of them "same 30" tracks, than it does to beat the obscure and untried.

peace

[Tee Mallory]

Originally posted by THX-1138:
yeah... I believe it sometimes takes more or as much balls and skills to drop one of them "same 30" tracks, than it does to beat the obscure and untried.

peace No doubt. Try keeping some of that old stuff on beat in a club live. Not easy.

TM

[kev]

I'm sure the way he was putting those records together had alot to do with it, too...

[Tee Mallory]

Definitely!

graemlins/grinyes.gif

[Master Kev]

Originally posted by Shalewa:
What follows is an argument for playing "the same 30 records". Sting played a set of music that I have at home but never get to hear out anymore. He played a set where I knew all the words and all the breaks. He played a set that had memories of days gone by coming up and out in my dancing. Yeah he played mostly classics, Disco and House straight ahead no journeys to the B-side of things and I LOVED IT!!!!!!!! I miss hearing those records and being transported to those places in my soul that they evoke. Not a whole lot of folks were there, but those of us who were got down. I have to say that my happiest, highest moment was when he played "klubtrance". That record moves me like few others have. Ever. I was also profoundly moved by "Running Away," DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot.

Very well said SHalewa!! There is a reason these records are classics, people like them!! Usually it's other DJ's or 'trainspotters' who complain about the same 30 :rolleyes:

[ July 28, 2003, 12:43 PM: Message edited by: Master Kev ]

[Tee Mallory]

What is a trainspotter?

[Koffy Brown]

I know I like'em...I've said it before...they may be sing-alongs...but it's something about them that make our bodies move, lift our spirits and put big ole smiles upon some of our faces...

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Tee Mallory:
What is a trainspotter? Males (ususally just dj's) who stand around and try to see what every record the dj is playing and hold up the wall and are unable to see that there is a dancefloor and that maybe they should get out on it and put some footwork to the sounds that are being provided for their listening and DANCING pleasure.

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tee Mallory:
What is a trainspotter? Males (ususally just dj's) who stand around and try to see what every record the dj is playing and hold up the wall and are unable to see that there is a dancefloor and that maybe they should get out on it and put some footwork to the sounds that are being provided for their listening and DANCING pleasure. </font>[/QUOTE]We should charge these people double at the door. ;)

When I used to spin hip hop at Don Hill's, we would often get Japanese kids who stood next to the booth and literally wrote down on a piece of paper not just every single record but the freakin' pitch speed as well. I kid you not.

[statuskuo]

Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tee Mallory:
What is a trainspotter? Males (ususally just dj's) who stand around and try to see what every record the dj is playing and hold up the wall and are unable to see that there is a dancefloor and that maybe they should get out on it and put some footwork to the sounds that are being provided for their listening and DANCING pleasure. </font>[/QUOTE]Learned.

[statuskuo]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tee Mallory:
What is a trainspotter? Males (ususally just dj's) who stand around and try to see what every record the dj is playing and hold up the wall and are unable to see that there is a dancefloor and that maybe they should get out on it and put some footwork to the sounds that are being provided for their listening and DANCING pleasure. </font>[/QUOTE]We should charge these people double at the door. ;)

When I used to spin hip hop at Don Hill's, we would often get Japanese kids who stood next to the booth and literally wrote down on a piece of paper not just every single record but the freakin' pitch speed as well. I kid you not. </font>[/QUOTE]that's house!

[Tee Mallory]

Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tee Mallory:
What is a trainspotter? Males (ususally just dj's) who stand around and try to see what every record the dj is playing and hold up the wall and are unable to see that there is a dancefloor and that maybe they should get out on it and put some footwork to the sounds that are being provided for their listening and DANCING pleasure. </font>[/QUOTE]Thank you for the explanation Leslie. Most times you can find me on the dancefloor dancing. To me it's the best way to get the overall vibe of a party.

[Cordell]

Originally posted by Shalewa:
[QB] DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot.
Can you explain what you mean by this?? How should a dj play when presenting music? I thought good music is good music regardless of it being new or old?

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by Cordell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shalewa:
[QB] DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot.
Can you explain what you mean by this?? How should a dj play when presenting music? I thought good music is good music regardless of it being new or old? </font>[/QUOTE]While I do not speak for Shalewa, I think she may be referring to the phenomena of so many DJs trying to out-obscure each other when playing, thus ignoring the vast quantity of floor-filler records that are still worth hearing, despite the fact that other DJs may play them as well. They call them floor-fillers for a reason, cuz they make people dance.

[kev]

You also can't front on the fact that these so called "same 30 records" became to be "the same 30 records" b/c they're GREAT records! There's a reason why people play them alot, and I think that says alot IMO.

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continue....

[Tee Mallory]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cordell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shalewa:
[QB] DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot.
Can you explain what you mean by this?? How should a dj play when presenting music? I thought good music is good music regardless of it being new or old? </font>[/QUOTE]While I do not speak for Shalewa, I think she may be referring to the phenomena of so many DJs trying to out-obscure each other when playing, thus ignoring the vast quantity of floor-filler records that are still worth hearing, despite the fact that other DJs may play them as well. They call them floor-fillers for a reason, cuz they make people dance. </font>[/QUOTE]I was taught that in most situations as a club dj, you have to play/program with a certain amount of balance with regards to unfamiliar and familiar music. Especially if you want to be different and break new music and/or out-of-the-ordinary classics. Unless you are doing a party where obscurity or playing brand new stuff continuous is the theme, for the most part you want to program with familiarity to be successful. There are exceptions to this of course.

TM

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Maria:
I missed...Ray!!!!!!! Ray was missing in action....I guess folks will complain about the misrepresentation.. biggrinangel.gif

...nice report Shalewa.

[ July 28, 2003, 02:33 PM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

[Shalewa]

Originally posted by Cordell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shalewa:
[QB] DJs please stop being too cute to play these records. We like them. We like them a whole lot.
Can you explain what you mean by this?? How should a dj play when presenting music? I thought good music is good music regardless of it being new or old? </font>[/QUOTE]My comment was not at all out of harmony with "good music is good music regardless of it being new or old". In fact your statement amplifies my premise, that "the same 30 records" that are not worth playing in the ears of many DJs are great to hear out in a club because they are certainly "good music" and far too often cast aside in favor of the flavor of the moment. I am not sure what you read as being in opposition with that concept.