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andrea
10-15-2003, 12:03 PM
abc news (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/101503_nw_bryant.html)
Bless your little heart, andrea. Kobe is innocent! Now get ready for a Laker beat down you, twats. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif
'Other substances...'??? Girlfriend had a party in her pants and everbody came, huh?
andrea
10-15-2003, 12:14 PM
get on with this already...let's play some basketball!!!
julian_kelly
10-15-2003, 12:15 PM
from espn http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1638553
Wednesday, October 15, 2003
Associated Press
EAGLE, Colo. -- Kobe Bryant's lawyers argued in court papers they have "compelling evidence" the NBA superstar is innocent of rape and accused prosecutors of ignoring it.
The defense said tests on the accuser's underpants found "other substances" from a "source" other than the Los Angeles Lakers' guard. The lawyers argue that injuries to the woman may have been caused by previous sexual partners.
The details were released in a court filing at the same time Judge Frederick Gannett rejected a prosecution request to close the remainder of a preliminary hearing to protect the 19-year-old accuser.
The hearing is to determine whether Bryant, 25, will stand trial on a charge of sexual assault. He has said the sex with the Eagle woman was consensual.
After meeting with attorneys for more than an hour Wednesday, Gannett then admonished the news media to exercise restraint in drawing any conclusions from testimony.
"Understand you have been privy to only a portion of the information," Gannett said. The hearing then resumed with the defense's questioning of the lead investigator, sheriff's Detective Doug Winters.
The hearing then resumed with the defense questioning of the lead investigator, sheriff's Detective Doug Winters.
Winters said the Eagle woman told him she had consensual sex on June 27 or June 28 and had used a condom, backing earlier defense suggestions that she had been sexually active before her encounter with Bryant.
Winters also said two pairs of panties from the woman were tested -- one from the night of June 30, the other being the one she wore to a hospital for an exam the next day.
The latter pair contained blood and semen, Winters said.
"The accuser arrived at the hospital wearing panties with someone else's semen and sperm in them, not that of Mr. Bryant, correct?" defense attorney Pamela Mackey asked.
"That's correct," Winters responded.
Pubic hair samples from the woman also turned up Caucasian hairs that could not have come from Bryant, who is black, Winters said.
In Wednesday's court filing, defense attorney Hal Haddon said prosecutors misrepresented blood evidence found on the underpants.
"The clear implication of this testimony was that the accuser was bleeding due to the alleged sexual assault," he said. The prosecution deliberately failed to "put before the court all of the evidence concerning those panties."
The defense said that evidence had been given to Gannett, under seal, and it provided "compelling evidence of innocence."
Prosecutors have accused the defense of a "deliberate and calculated" attempt to dredge up testimony about the woman's sexual history that is irrelevant at such an early stage of the case.
"What was even more unexpected was her conscious misrepresentation of the evidence in order to smear the victim publicly," prosecutor Ingrid Bakke wrote in a court filing Tuesday.
Bakke said Colorado's rape shield law bars the use of an alleged victim's sexual history in rape cases, with few exceptions.
Last week, the hearing began with graphic testimony from Winters, who said Bryant attacked the woman from behind and raped her over her protestations.
The defense then suggested in open court the accuser may have had sex with other men. Prosecutors responded by asking for the hearing to be closed -- a request ridiculed by the defense.
"Now after damaging information about Mr. Bryant essentially unchallenged by cross-examination has been heard in open court and distributed worldwide as the prosecution intended, the prosecution now seeks to close the hearing," Haddon wrote.
"The defense never wanted this hearing to be open," he added. "Now that it has begun in open court ... Bryant's right to a fair trial will be eviscerated if the prosecution is able to achieve what it clear intended all along."
The judge is expected to issue a written ruling on whether the case will go to district court for trial. If it does go to trial and Bryant is convicted of the sexual assault charge, he faces up to life in prison.
Bryant, free on $25,000 bond, was at Wednesday's hearing.
Also Tuesday, prosecutors said they had received medical records mistakenly released by a Glenwood Springs hospital where the woman was examined -- and had shared them with Bryant's lawyers.
Prosecution spokeswoman Krista Flannigan said the records had been returned and copies destroyed at the request of the hospital.
Defense attorneys unsuccessfully sought the medical records from a number of places, including an Eagle clinic and a student health service at the University of Northern Colorado in Greeley. The woman was treated earlier this year for an undisclosed mental health problem.
The judge threw out defense subpoenas for the medical records, saying the issue should be determined by the trial judge if the case goes that far.
what about guilty until proven innocent? graemlins/cool_shades.gif
Originally posted by jpsf:
what about guilty until proven innocent? graemlins/cool_shades.gif What about AR15firing.gif to you.
jimmymack-2000
10-15-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by jpsf:
what about guilty until proven innocent? graemlins/cool_shades.gif Who are you referring to? Kobe, or the alleged victim? Both seem to now be in the unenviable position of defending themselves...
dj c-los
10-15-2003, 12:52 PM
It doesnt matter if they found more stains on her socks, shirt, scarf, ankle bracelet, or the back of the neck from other guys she got with in other days.
If she told Kobe no....No means no!
Even if she told a million of other guys "yes!"
She could of told one person "no" and he has to respect that.
By this point don't know if anyone wants another dibs on her...she's beyond sloppy seconds.
[ October 15, 2003, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: clos7 ]
Bill Blake
10-15-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by clos7:
It doesnt matter if they found more stains on her socks, shirt, scarf, ankle bracelet, or the back of the neck from other guys she got with in other days.
If she told Kobe no....No means no!
Even if she told a million of other guys "yes!"
She could of told one person "no" and he has to respect that.
Yep
Maybe compelling evidence that she sleeps around but not that she wasnt raped.
Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jpsf:
what about guilty until proven innocent? graemlins/cool_shades.gif What about AR15firing.gif to you. </font>[/QUOTE]just to clarify, i actually think it's messed up that the media condemns people without a fair trial. and i don't think it's just the media. it's a shame.
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