Electro

[djezmike]

Hello DHP its been awhile since Ive been on the board( I finally got a computer). So what does everyone think of this Electro revival. Ive heard some songs that are ok. Is Electro big in Chi-Town? Does anyone recommend any tunes out there.Thank You in Advance.

[vinny from the Burgh]

anything by anthony rother, UR makes some shit that is disgusting, and also Aux 88. been a while since I have paid close attention to this genre but electro is the one of my favs

[Jolyon]

I don't like the term electro-clash but there is some good stuff if you look hard enough. Also it's led to a reappraisal of older new wave/electro/italo records, which is a good thing.

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by djezmike:
Hello DHP its been awhile since Ive been on the board( I finally got a computer). So what does everyone think of this Electro revival. Ive heard some songs that are ok. Is Electro big in Chi-Town? Does anyone recommend any tunes out there.Thank You in Advance. With Help from pop records using certain sounds: -

Electro revival is on it's way out here in the U.K. Seemed to be more popular a few years ago with likes of Anthony Rother, Andy Weatherall/Keith Tenniswood, Dexter, Ecotmorph, Breakin records (UK), Puzzlebox, Electrix, UR, Viewlexx

Some are basically techno with a different name and some have more of the original sound of Electro


Here's some reccomended stuff from Haywire

Sirus - Death Star
Two Step sounds and programming with a four to the floor backbeat. Bass terrorism in a Si Begg lost in Peckham stylie.

Label:Runnin' Format:12"





Tube Jerk - Shift
Leading the charge away from Loop cul de sac riding an armour plated steam driven robot horse, Tim Wright delivers an album's worth of swinging pounders.

Label:Sativae Format:2xLP





Tube Jerk - Shift
Leading the charge away from Loop cul de sac riding an armour plated steam driven robot horse, Tim Wright delivers an album's worth of swinging pounders.

Label:Sativae Format:CD





False - Wav Pool
If you're going to go minimal do it with dirt and a throbbing bass foundation.

Label:Plus 8 Format:12"





S*Max & Paradroid - Chocolate Poodle
Four teacks of well produced lush sounding yet funk ridden and dirty, experimental dance-floor electro. Forward thinking but with a doffed cap in the direction of the past pioneers.

Label:Overdrive Format:12"





V/A - Elektronische Musik 2
High quality double pack of experimental funk from around the world. Quality minimalism from one of the labels that helps set the benchmark.

Label:Traum Format:CD





V/A - Elektronische Musik 2
High quality double pack of experimental funk from around the world. Quality minimalism from one of the labels that helps set the benchmark.

Label:Traum Format:2xLP





Perspects - The Third And Final Report
Another journey to the future via a fondly remembered past. Like an early 'some bizarre' release with added production values; packed with fun, sleaze, and funk. These people should really do a record with John Foxx.

Label:Interdimensional Transmissions Format:12"





Hidden Library Vol3 - Jnr Poon
Second release on the, available through Biwire only, 7" label. Side A is the rubber band dark electro-pop stomper Lord Of The Hornets. Side B is the deeply disturbing rumbling psychodrama that tells the tale of My Backward Cousin Mark. Tracklist

Label:Hidden Library Format:7"





The Chairman's Previous Recommended




Wilko - Wilko's Dirty Ghetto Jam
Three tracky pumpers and a vocal led disco-funk 'titties' tune together on one piece of pimptastic plastic. **** art, lets dance to well programmed and produced rump shakers.

Label:Pimp Format:12"





The Rapture - House Of Jealous Lovers
Limtied edition packaged in a picture sleeve. House of Jealous Lovers is the first UK offering from genre bending U.S. punkers The Rapture. Its a pure slab of classic screaming angst, punk chic and savvy, mixed over an infectious death disco beat. Imagine the Gang Of Four and Liquid Liquid making out at the Paradise Garage with P.I.L. This 3 tracker also features a remix from highly respected New York producer Morgan Geist (of Metro Area and Environ Records fame) as well as a bonus track. Recorded in NYC under the guiding hand of DFA who consist of James Murphy and founding Unkle member Tim Goldsworthy. Jack be quick.

Label:Output Format:12"





8 Bit Rockers - 8 Bit
Ten tracks of tight, dark, funky (sometimes vocal) electro goodness. A slightly spookier and more finely tuned sound than on their previous Bunker release, sounding like the intervening months have seen the Rockers working their backsides off. Totally essential modern electro.

Label:Bunker Format:MLP





Chloe Poems - The Queen Sucks Nazi Cock / Fiona Bowker - Bionic Woman
A spoken word oddity that starts as a camp Shakespearian ode to the joys of England suddenly takes a twisted turn and the bile flows. Looking for something to play to spoil the Jubilee celebrations being enjoye by your Daily Mail reading neighbors or as last tune of the night shortly before being sacked from your Dj job at the Young Conservatives Disco? Then this is for you. Good work Miss Poems, if you performed this on television a whole new generation of fat truck drivers would kick their TV stations in. Worth admission price alone simply to own a record called 'The Queen Sucks Nazi Cock'.

Label:Switchflicker Format:7"





Skanfrom - Handpicked Fragments
Eight new tracks and one only previously released on tape make up the vinyl. Those tunes and 12 'Greatest Hits' comprise the CD, so if the budget allows it's the vinyl for discotheque useage and the CD for pleasure in the car or at home. Skanfrom and Suction Records, always a bi-word for quality, ransack the past and create a future that sets standards as far as electro's new wave is concerned. In an eighties overkill atmosphere these people are part of the elite commando diision against which other units should be judged. Message complete. Deploy this beauty bomb immediately. Ps... the vinyl features an un credited Duran Duran cover version.... bup bud up ba dub bup bud up... this is planet earth.

Label:Suction Format:LP





Marcia Blaine - School For Girls EP
The first release on Rub-A-Dub's Dalriada imprint. I know from first hand experience the care, love and thought that went into getting this label together and boy does it show in the quality of the music. Four tracks of stunning melodic beauty with strange twists and turns in every tune. Beautifully produced machine music instigating both the analogue and digital worlds where end result is more important than the process (unlike many rather sterile records in this field).

Label:Dariada Format:12"





Murcof - Martes
The beauty of this masterwork has left me speechless so I'll leave it to Leaf themselves to sum up. 'gooseflesh-inducing aura of mystery and suspense drawing together the divergent disciplines of classical orchestration and electronic minimalism' 'lush atmospheric layers of strings and piano restrained by posiedmicro-rythms' I couldn't have put it better myself... so I didn't.

Label:Leaf Format:2xLP





Murcof - Martes
The beauty of this masterwork has left me speechless so I'll leave it to Leaf themselves to sum up. 'gooseflesh-inducing aura of mystery and suspense drawing together the divergent disciplines of classical orchestration and electronic minimalism' 'lush atmospheric layers of strings and piano restrained by posiedmicro-rythms' I couldn't have put it better myself... so I didn't.

Label:Leaf Format:CD

[ April 15, 2003, 05:41 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

[Walter M. Jones]

Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by djezmike:
Hello DHP its been awhile since Ive been on the board( I finally got a computer). So what does everyone think of this Electro revival. Ive heard some songs that are ok. Is Electro big in Chi-Town? Does anyone recommend any tunes out there.Thank You in Advance. With Help from pop records using certain sounds: -

Electro revival is on it's way out here in the U.K. Seemed to be more popular a few years ago with likes of Anthony Rother, Andy Weatherall/Keith Tenniswood, Dexter, Ecotmorph, Breakin records (UK), Puzzlebox, Electrix, UR, Viewlexx

</font>[/QUOTE]I didn't know of it being in. I thought Drum and Bass and UK Garage were the rage in England. I the 80's revival is going out,what is in as far as dance music in England? Peace.

[The Donger]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
I don't like the term electro-clash but there is some good stuff if you look hard enough. Also it's led to a reappraisal of older new wave/electro/italo records, which is a good thing. agreed.

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by djezmike:
Hello DHP its been awhile since Ive been on the board( I finally got a computer). So what does everyone think of this Electro revival. Ive heard some songs that are ok. Is Electro big in Chi-Town? Does anyone recommend any tunes out there.Thank You in Advance. With Help from pop records using certain sounds: -

Electro revival is on it's way out here in the U.K. Seemed to be more popular a few years ago with likes of Anthony Rother, Andy Weatherall/Keith Tenniswood, Dexter, Ecotmorph, Breakin records (UK), Puzzlebox, Electrix, UR, Viewlexx

</font>[/QUOTE]I didn't know of it being in. I thought Drum and Bass and UK Garage were the rage in England. I the 80's revival is going out,what is in as far as dance music in England? Peace. </font>[/QUOTE]I didn't want the make the Electro thing like some fashion, I was more talking about the fact that good music seems to be slowling up from that area, IMHO.


UK Garage , and the Hard step drum and bass, people carrying machetes into clubs and such like. These are young lads who must have been dragged up, no manners (god I sound old graemlins/grinyes.gif ) , but these are a new and hated breed of scumbag, they wouldn't want to sort shit out with a one on one, little Rockport wearing fools are nothing on their own but they act the cunt when they are in masses and take over a these Garage venues, not that it really bothers me on the club thing as I don't frequent those venues, but when you see these idiots larging it in a record shop you just want to slice the ears of em with a high velocity spinning 12"

I was speaking to my freind who has a shop, and he sells all alot of styles of music, inc UK Garage, he informed me it does his head in these little wanna be bad boys come in the shop giving it the big one, "give me this" "give me that" "YO ! have you got so and so", after pandering to these idiots they buy nothing , slope out the shop leaving the records they demanded on the counter and doing nothing more than being a pest a wasting time, these people need to get some social behavoir skills and more so, some basic manners.


Now this is the serious side of it: -

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38651000/gif/_38651637_birming2_shootings_300map.gif

That is high for a country where guns are supposed to be illegal

[ April 16, 2003, 04:04 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

[Martin Red]

British government blames music for shootings
08:56 AM +1000, Jan 07 2003
Violent crime is continuing to rise in Britain (where 167 women are raped each day), despite strict gun laws and the increased use of cctv. So, following the shooting of two teenage girls, does it occur to the government to examine whether its policies of prohibiting self-defense and disarming victims has perhaps only increased the leverage of violent gangs?

No, they're too busy blaming music.


His comments come after Culture Minister Kim Howells said the deaths of two Birmingham teenagers were "symptomatic" of developments in rap and garage music.
Mr Howells attacked garage acts, like So Solid Crew, for "glorifying gun culture and violence" following the shooting of the young women after a party last week.

He said people should stand up to "idiot macho rappers".

[...]

[BBC Radio 1Xtra DJ Iyare] said members of So Solid Crew carried guns not to glorify gun culture but to protect themselves.

"Rightly or wrongly, they feel threatened and need to protect themselves. They are kids from council estates and are targets for those making a beeline for them."

[...]

[Radio 1 DJ Trevor Nelson] said those who attacked rap and garage music missed the point that gun culture was a social problem.

"I think it's wrong - it's an obvious problem. Anyone who goes into a club or who is young and on the streets of a city in this country knows there is a problem and is scared witless.

[...]

Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur has criticised the garage industry for not doing more to combat gun culture.

- BBC, Garage scene denies glorifying guns.

Meanwhile, Home Secretary David Blunkett hints ominously at music censorship, saying he plans to put the hard word on record labels.. but it's not censorship, honest.


Speaking on BBC Radio 2's Jeremy Vine programme, Mr Blunkett said there was a link between gun violence, Class A drugs and music.
He said: "I am not going to get into the issue of censoring.

"But I am concerned that we need to talk to the record producers, to the distributors, to those who are actually engaged in the music business about what is and isn't acceptable."

- BBC, Blunkett targets gangster gun culture.


SOURCE = http://vigilant.tv/article/2673

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
I don't like the term electro-clash but there is some good stuff if you look hard enough. Also it's led to a reappraisal of older new wave/electro/italo records, which is a good thing. whats wrong with the term electroclash, do you like the term house ?

I definatley agree with you though jolyon
there are good electroclash records, i have some.
It will also open younger generations ears to classic stuff.

it's very fresh, new and has alot of influences from all kinds of music I like, the parties are a blast too, I went to the one in Miami at crobar and it was really fun.

[ April 16, 2003, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Christopher L. Aquilo ]

[Jolyon]

Christopher - I'm not dissing the music at all - I think there's a lot of good stuff around if you look hard for it. I love electro and punk funk.

I don't like the term electro-clash because over here it's mixed in with a really stupid fashion thing and it was just another bandwagon for lazy music journalists and record producers to jump on. The word's become a bit of a joke over here, maybe it's different in the States.

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
Christopher - I'm not dissing the music at all - I think there's a lot of good stuff around if you look hard for it. I love electro and punk funk.

I don't like the term electro-clash because over here it's mixed in with a really stupid fashion thing and it was just another bandwagon for lazy music journalists and record producers to jump on. The word's become a bit of a joke over here, maybe it's different in the States. Alot of good records all kinds of music is good.
To me a term is just a way to generalize something. I think some people dress neat.
smile.gif

C-

[ April 16, 2003, 07:43 AM: Message edited by: Christopher L. Aquilo ]

[Jolyon]

The sad thing about some of the electro-clash nights in London is that it is not about the music. It's about poncing around in makeup pretending you and your mate are Boy George & Marilyn. The so-called hottest club in London at the moment is called Nag, Nag, Nag. I went and couldn't believe how bad it was, the DJing was terrible, the people weren't dancing they were posing. I think some of that scene over here is more about looking good than anything else.

[The Donger]

Electro Trash.

[Martin Red]

Revival of the New Romantics perhaps

i just hope those pasty people don't do that most silly dancing they used to do in the early 80's.

[Martin Red]

Saying that: if there was a resurection of New Romantics.

Sureley, they would be listening to Electronica.

Electro was never really New Romantics thing really, ya can't do head spins to Japan

[matthew]

i get a lot more excited by - and buy more - electro / disco punk / whatever you want to call it, than deep house these days.

[The Donger]

of course you do, it's adventerous.

[Balactus]

a lot of the music to me is actually really fun and a good time really. but i definatly have to agree that the hipster fashion trends that kind of blew up around the music are definately lame. the way the music got popular was kind of the it's downfall now apparently the hipsters are all dissing on electroclash.

w

[erd]

Originally posted by Jolyon:

I don't like the term electro-clash because over here it's mixed in with a really stupid fashion thing and it was just another bandwagon for lazy music journalists and record producers to jump on. The word's become a bit of a joke over here, maybe it's different in the States. Ditto over here in Germoney.
It is hilarious what some peopel do with their hair.

Peace,

Gerd

[Jolyon]

I agree with Matthew - likewise, for the last year I've been buying more new wave disco/electro etc. It's exciting finding weird records.

[Balactus]

yo the spikey hair, ripped shirts and pointy shoes needs to stop immediately. i think i might hate hipsters almost as much as i hate hippies my goodness graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

w

[Jolyon]

P.S. Japan are one of my favourite bands.

[DOTSmusic]

since no one alse has answered your question.
NO, the Electro Revival is not big here in Chicago. if and when there are Electro events going on here you will mainly see hipster indie rock kids (who are just joining in on the latest fad) in the crowd rather than the heads.

Call it what you want, it does not bother me to hear the term Electro-Clash.
i do know that there is some really good shit out there though.

i know a lot of people hate on the Gigolo records roster cuz of there bling, bling lifestyles but in all honesty most all of the people on that roster are talented as ****.
do yourselves a favor, check em out.
that's assuming you have not closed your mind off to Techno, Electro, Industrial, and other mechanical sounding dance music styles.
I happen to love that shit so...

as i said in a previous thread,
look out for DJ. Hell's album later this year.
featuring on vocals, David Bowie, Alan Vega (Suicide), Grace Jones, & and Chicago's own Traxx.

also to look for on that label, when it is released later this year.

the full length album by Chicago's own
Traxx, Deecoy, & The Hyroglyphic Being, the collective better known as THE DIRTY CRIMINALS, TDC. i got a chance to hear them play songs from the album live over the weekend.
SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by matthew:
i get a lot more excited by - and buy more - electro / disco punk / whatever you want to call it, than deep house these days. i concur ;)

[Martin Red]

The original Electro thing was massive here, and not so big in the UK i believe from reading a post by magic_juan which has been deleted.


UK Streetsounds label.
http://www.vinylvulture.co.uk/pages/images/records/electro-2.jpg

The B Boys "Two, Three, Break"
The B Boys "Cuttin' Herbie"

Xena "On The Upside"

Hashim "Al-Naafiysh (The Soul)

Rammelzee vs K-Rob "Beat Bop"

Two Sisters "B-Boys Beware"

Grandmaster & Melle Mel "White Lines (Don't Do It)"


http://www.vinylvulture.co.uk/pages/images/records/electro-4.jpg

Radio Active "Steps Ahead"
Pumpkin & The Profile All Stars "Here Comes That Beat"

Herbie Hancock "Mega Mix"

Run DMC "Sucker MC's"

Key-Matic "Breakin' In Space"

The VHB "Beethoven's Fifth (Street) Symphony"

Cybotron "Techno City" graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Martin Red]

Now the series re-released

http://www.geocities.com/scottpurkiss/music/assets/images/electro_1.gif

The Packman - I'm The Packman (eat everything i can)
Newcleus - Jam on Revenge (the wikki-wikki song)
West Street Mob - Breakdancin' - Electric Boogie
C-Bank - Get Wet
K-9 Corp feauturing Pretty C - Dog Talk
G-force featuring Gee & Captain Cee - Feel The Force
Project Future - Ray Gun-Omics
Captain Rock - The Return Of Captain Rock

[Martin Red]

Lots of links on the 80's Electro FUNK

http://www.google.com/search?q=Electro+and+Streetsounds+and+U.K+and+Hist ory&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[Red D]

As with any hype it's hard to find the missing parts between the rubble (excuse me for the rather cruel analogy, this war thing has gotten to me...), there is good stuff out there, and Gigolo was the forerunner in bringing it to the masses, but the majority of it is lame and uninspired.
If you listen to Hell's X-Mix from way back (1995 I believe) you will hear his love for darker, deeper house and techno, and that's where Gigolo was born. The label has evolved to a point where they are now rightfully cashing in on the revival they helped to create. Credit to Hell (he is still one of my favourite dj's) but for me it has gone far enough.

RD

[beemoe44]

I could be wrong but to me the Electro-clash/Electro revival exist as a reaction to the dominance of rap and r&b. I`ve noticed some in that scene complaining about "the dominance of rap and r&b". It reminds me of the trip-hop/jungle/d&b thang back in the mid-nineties, which was somewhat of a reaction to rap. Those forms have pretty much died off and rap continues to roll on.

[matthew]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
of course you do, it's adventerous. i am the musical phileas fogg

[Monny JcIntosh]

I'd suggest doing a search for "Viewlexx" - there have been a few topics discussing the great music being put out by I-f, Creme etc. out of Holland. And the mysterious Macho Cat Garage people, of course.

I've heard lots of great things about Traxx, too. I don't know what to expect there, but I'll have to check his LP on Gigolo when it drops.

[Jolyon]

Originally posted by matthew:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
of course you do, it's adventerous. i am the musical phileas fogg </font>[/QUOTE]Without the lambchop sideburns and top hat.

[Walter M. Jones]

From what I gathered from the whole electroclash thing,i is just Larry Tee cashing in on hype. When I think of electroclash I only think of Fisherspooner,Chicks on Speed and Felix. All the other stuff kinda falls into it's own category like the West Coast Holland sound and the Disco Punk Funk thing. I don't concider that to be electroclash,but an 80's revival. We had electroclash way before Larry Tee got his grubby little ex-Disco 2000 club kid hands on the media. Groups like Drexia,Dopplereffekt,etc. have been around for a while. I have loved that quirky danceable New Wave sound(even when it wasen't so popular to throw on a copy of Human Legue's Travelogue album). Like I said earlier,are we going to see a 90' revival in 10 years? Peace.

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
From what I gathered from the whole electroclash thing,i is just Larry Tee cashing in on hype. When I think of electroclash I only think of Fisherspooner,Chicks on Speed and Felix. All the other stuff kinda falls into it's own category like the West Coast Holland sound and the Disco Punk Funk thing. I don't concider that to be electroclash,but an 80's revival. We had electroclash way before Larry Tee got his grubby little ex-Disco 2000 club kid hands on the media. Groups like Drexia,Dopplereffekt,etc. have been around for a while. I have loved that quirky danceable New Wave sound(even when it wasen't so popular to throw on a copy of Human Legue's Travelogue album). Like I said earlier,are we going to see a 90' revival in 10 years? Peace. Nice one Walter.

James "Drexciya" Stinson - R.I.P

[daniel]

Originally posted by aKiLa:
if and when there are Electro events going on here you will mainly see hipster indie rock kids (who are just joining in on the latest fad) in the crowd rather than the heads.
HHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDD UP!

you should know better yourself. if it wasn't for indie kids getting into dance music a few years ago, it wouldn't be where it is now.

yes, they are like a plague, but i'd rather have the progress seen in the indie world than the stagnant house scene any day.

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
From what I gathered from the whole electroclash thing,i is just Larry Tee cashing in on hype. When I think of electroclash I only think of Fisherspooner,Chicks on Speed and Felix. All the other stuff kinda falls into it's own category like the West Coast Holland sound and the Disco Punk Funk thing. I don't concider that to be electroclash,but an 80's revival. We had electroclash way before Larry Tee got his grubby little ex-Disco 2000 club kid hands on the media. Groups like Drexia,Dopplereffekt,etc. have been around for a while. I have loved that quirky danceable New Wave sound(even when it wasen't so popular to throw on a copy of Human Legue's Travelogue album). Like I said earlier,are we going to see a 90' revival in 10 years? Peace. Have you ever seen any of his groups, they are amazing. Electro Clash is an influx of sounds and influences ranging from electro-punk-new wave- miami bass- techno, ect. with a modern twist. He puts peformers and artists behind often nameless records. I think dance music needs that, more personality, an artist association, bands ect, ect

Besides, he loves what he does and gets paid, what is wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with fashion it's art....
so he combines his love of music fashion and art

nothing at all wrong with that, i think it's refreshing

dance music needs to go in diffrent bold directions

C-

[ April 16, 2003, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: Christopher L. Aquilo ]

[bombay records]

Originally posted by daniel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by aKiLa:
if and when there are Electro events going on here you will mainly see hipster indie rock kids (who are just joining in on the latest fad) in the crowd rather than the heads.
HHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDD UP!

you should know better yourself. if it wasn't for indie kids getting into dance music a few years ago, it wouldn't be where it is now.

yes, they are like a plague, but i'd rather have the progress seen in the indie world than the stagnant house scene any day. </font>[/QUOTE]Thank god someone said this.

Plus we've got bands that are being inspired by this, like The Rapture (produced by James at DFA and they ****ing rock), A.R.E. Weapons, etc. Bringing kids together to dance and party, which is a good thing. You sure won't see the same kids at some classics house night.

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by bombay records:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by daniel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by aKiLa:
if and when there are Electro events going on here you will mainly see hipster indie rock kids (who are just joining in on the latest fad) in the crowd rather than the heads.
HHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDD UP!

you should know better yourself. if it wasn't for indie kids getting into dance music a few years ago, it wouldn't be where it is now.

yes, they are like a plague, but i'd rather have the progress seen in the indie world than the stagnant house scene any day. </font>[/QUOTE]Thank god someone said this.

Plus we've got bands that are being inspired by this, like The Rapture (produced by James at DFA and they ****ing rock), A.R.E. Weapons, etc. Bringing kids together to dance and party, which is a good thing. You sure won't see the same kids at some classics house night. </font>[/QUOTE]exactly, why the **** don't they come out to the underground dance functions?
i'm not knockin the indie scene cuz i myself feel i represent that scene also.
i'm talkin about the indie hipsters who are in it for the trend rather than for the love of the music.
everyone has to start somewhere, true but these cats are never at any of the functions that represent electronic music in an underground scale.
they are only at the bigger, heavily hyped functions frontin like they have been into that shit for years.
why are they not willing to be seen in underground environments?
i think something seriously needs to be done about this.
we should try and make everyone feel welcome at parties.
Punkers, Indie kids, Goth boys and Girls, Drum & Bass heads, House Peeps, etc..
and on the other side, i think folks should be willing to venture where they normally would not.
they might end up liking it more than they imagined.

ok, i'm rambling
bah

in a year or so after they feel the trend has died they will be right off to what they feel is the the next big thing and will totally have forgotten about their so called love of electronic music.

[daniel]

okay, you didn't really state a difference b/w indie kids and wanna be indie hipsters. i see your point.

i used to see kids in nyc both at indie shows and underground parties.

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by daniel:
okay, you didn't really state a difference b/w indie kids and wanna be indie hipsters. i see your point.

i used to see kids in nyc both at indie shows and underground parties. ahh, but i did though,

you will mainly see hipster indie rock kids (who are just joining in on the latest fad) in the crowd rather than the heads.

graemlins/beerchug.gif

[daniel]

so, the indie kids in chicago don't go to the indie shows?

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by daniel:
so, the indie kids in chicago don't go to the indie shows? of course, but like we both know there are those shows that you and i would go to. and there is those shows that are promoting the latest MTV indie breakthrough to the mainstream band, who were never very good even before the majors came knocking on their doors.
alla, The Vines (yuck), Dashboard Confessional and so on.
that's where you will find the hipsters, at those shows.

out here there are those types of hipsters (typically kids who moved here from the suburbs, or from out of state) and then you have your Wicker Park hipsters who are a bit older and go for the latest retro trend.

[DOTSmusic]

Originally posted by daniel:
so, the indie kids in chicago don't go to the indie shows? i should have actually edited out the last part, i was actually refering to wajt was above what you mentioned about indie kids going to parties, and shows also.

oops!!!!! :D

[daniel]

word. i'm still in the "if it's on mtv, it's not indie" camp.

[Walter M. Jones]

Originally posted by Christopher L. Aquilo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
From what I gathered from the whole electroclash thing,i is just Larry Tee cashing in on hype. When I think of electroclash I only think of Fisherspooner,Chicks on Speed and Felix. All the other stuff kinda falls into it's own category like the West Coast Holland sound and the Disco Punk Funk thing. I don't concider that to be electroclash,but an 80's revival. We had electroclash way before Larry Tee got his grubby little ex-Disco 2000 club kid hands on the media. Groups like Drexia,Dopplereffekt,etc. have been around for a while. I have loved that quirky danceable New Wave sound(even when it wasen't so popular to throw on a copy of Human Legue's Travelogue album). Like I said earlier,are we going to see a 90' revival in 10 years? Peace. Have you ever seen any of his groups, they are amazing. Electro Clash is an influx of sounds and influences ranging from electro-punk-new wave- miami bass- techno, ect. with a modern twist. He puts peformers and artists behind often nameless records. I think dance music needs that, more personality, an artist association, bands ect, ect

Besides, he loves what he does and gets paid, what is wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with fashion it's art....
so he combines his love of music fashion and art

nothing at all wrong with that, i think it's refreshing

dance music needs to go in diffrent bold directions

C- </font>[/QUOTE]I saw Fisherspooner on some late night show on T.V. A.R.E. Weapons came to town 2 months back but didn't get to see them. Well I was just trying to say that those groups that are only represented by the electroclash media locomotive are the ones in the spotlight and the other groups are left out because of poor representation and not lack of a good show or musical talent. Electroclash is cool,but the beef I have with them is the only classic group the seem to represent is Soft Cell. I love Soft Cell and always have,but I loved ALL the Some Bizarre groups like Yello,Scrapeing Foetus off the Wheel,Neubauten,Test Dept,Coil,etc as well. BTW,what the hell happend to that label? I just hate being labeled because I like a certain style. Just because I play Legowelt I didn't turn elecroclash,just like 10 years ago someone said I was into "Techno-Rave" because I dug House music. But I guess on the other hand people need stigmas for those who don't know what the hell is going on to relate in some way. I listen to Disco music. To someone that doesen't have a clue and listens to country on a regular basis,when I tell them I listen to Disco,they automaticly think of John Trovolta pointing upwards in a white polyester suit. Hey what the hell do I know about Travis Tritt then that he probably,more than likely made a sturring ballad about September 11th. So sometime I guess we need that re-assuring stereotype anchor for our own confidence. No one wants to look like an ass. But I do that on this board all the time. I'll come out: Yep,I'm an ass! graemlins/conf44.gif Peace.

[Jamie 3:26]

My whole take on this...some of that shit sucks.I never understood the notion that crappy music could make a comeback.Sometimes that shit was not played for a reason.I read an article on electroclash and they were saying it's played out.Damn,I just heard the term a few months ago.

I know some folks are big into electronic tunes,I happen to like a lot of electronic music from the 80's,but I ain't going ga-ga over it.I guess it's a case of been there done that.If anything,I want something new and fresh,not something that is left-overs.

I saw a group I like is considered electroclash.I just thought it was some good shit.Chicken Lips is the group.The ep I have is called He did it.It's dope and different.I noticed that there are some cats in Chi who are down with Dj Hell.My boy DJ Traxxx to mention a name is a dope jock,insane to say the least.He has a group dropping something.Cool.Do ya thang bruh.I just do not like the media and fakes dictating what is hot.

To close out my post,F.uck a genre.Good Music is Good Music....Bad Music is just that...bad!!!

[Martin Red]

Let us not forget Direct Beat graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Walter M. Jones]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
My whole take on this...some of that shit sucks.I never understood the notion that crappy music could make a comeback.Sometimes that shit was not played for a reason.I read an article on electroclash and they were saying it's played out.Damn,I just heard the term a few months ago.

I know some folks are big into electronic tunes,I happen to like a lot of electronic music from the 80's,but I ain't going ga-ga over it.I guess it's a case of been there done that.If anything,I want something new and fresh,not something that is left-overs.

I saw a group I like is considered electroclash.I just thought it was some good shit.Chicken Lips is the group.The ep I have is called He did it.It's dope and different.I noticed that there are some cats in Chi who are down with Dj Hell.My boy DJ Traxxx to mention a name is a dope jock,insane to say the least.He has a group dropping something.Cool.Do ya thang bruh.I just do not like the media and fakes dictating what is hot.

To close out my post,F.uck a genre.Good Music is Good Music....Bad Music is just that...bad!!! Fisherspooner is from Chicago.

[DOTSmusic]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Walter M. Jones:
Fisherspooner is from Chicago.

originally yeah, but they have since relocated to New York.