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DeesKo

11-03-2003, 05:18 PM

Hey, he's doing him... who am I to judge him for it ?

On a music note.. is it just me or do all the little "sounds" sound like they aren't on a normal count or normal progression ?

Is it just that the patterns/progression isn't "normal" so it sounds weird to my ear or what ?

When there's a beat behind it, a lot of times it really sounds like two completely unrelated songs being forced to play at the same time, like a really bad mix....

Maybe I'm missing something but it just sounds "off" to me...

Anyone know some special "knowledge" about trance that might make me go "ohhhhhhhh, ok, I see" because its odd for me to think that many people hear that and think its normal sounding.

Peace

JoeB

11-03-2003, 05:20 PM

i kept on waiting for there to be a punch line but this is obviously real and insane. wow.

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-03-2003, 05:23 PM

I notice the music is very dramatic and emotional sounding almost like Yanni with a drum machine. I can see the appeal.....as far as "dance music" now im not sure about that.

liL Ray

11-03-2003, 05:29 PM

ok 2 questions...how long is the line to sell your soul to get to that level and where do I sign up?....and I want that same stage/dj booth.

WOW!!! Impressive!!!....maybe MAGUS has a point....

Ben.

11-03-2003, 05:31 PM

http://www.residentadvisor.com.au/images/profiles/tiesto.jpg

liL Ray

11-03-2003, 05:36 PM

...and the mix is not boring...and he seems like he's having fun...unlike our average expression-less, don't give two rats ass about the crowd deep house djs.

I could have fun to this..especially on a tab... ;)

D J 1 3 8

11-03-2003, 05:37 PM

Where did this kid come from, anyway?
I know he's Dutch. But I mean what did he do /where does he play on the reg to achieve this level of stardom?
I've only heard his name for like the last year or so.
Is he a huge Ibiza DJ or something?

daniel

11-03-2003, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Ben.:
http://www.residentadvisor.com.au/images/profiles/tiesto.jpg is that his oakenfold pose?

yanni with a drum machine = william orbit's version of abrigo for strings (makes me imagine that scene in Platoon turning into a dance piece)

[ November 03, 2003, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: daniel ]

DeesKo

11-03-2003, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
ok 2 questions...how long is the line to sell your soul to get to that level and where do I sign up?....and I want that same stage/dj booth.

WOW!!! Impressive!!!....maybe MAGUS has a point.... If you have to sell your soul, you won't ever make it that far. I truly believe that.

There are more Trance DJ's than house DJ's and there's still only a certain select few that make it to that level. I have to believe they are there because they believe in what they are doing just as much as I believe in what I am doing, you believe in what you are doing, Magus believed in what he is doing, etc etc etc.

You're only truly successful in life, both spiritually and financially if you are going at it like someone possessed and that ONLY comes from truly believing in it ... you can't fake that.

Peace

daniel

11-03-2003, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by DJ 138:

I've only heard his name for like the last year or so.
that's the strangest part, it was like Boom! he's huge.

liL Ray

11-03-2003, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by DJ 138:
Where did this kid come from, anyway?
I know he's Dutch. But I mean what did he do /where does he play on the reg to achieve this level of stardom?
I've only heard his name for like the last year or so.
Is he a huge Ibiza DJ or something? it really doesn't matter, does it? Nelly was at the Super Bowl in atlanta giving out cds and getting laughed at one year and the very next year was the main performer on the stage at midfield at half time.....it's not the time and the dues paid as some would like it to be, hell, it's not even the talent, it's the drive, will, belief in ones self and the sacrifices one is willing to go through to achieve their goal.

Bigups to those going through it...even more bigups to those who have a goal to work towards.

liL Ray

11-03-2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by DeesKo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
ok 2 questions...how long is the line to sell your soul to get to that level and where do I sign up?....and I want that same stage/dj booth.

WOW!!! Impressive!!!....maybe MAGUS has a point.... If you have to sell your soul, you won't ever make it that far. I truly believe that.

There are more Trance DJ's than house DJ's and there's still only a certain select few that make it to that level. I have to believe they are there because they believe in what they are doing just as much as I believe in what I am doing, you believe in what you are doing, Magus believed in what he is doing, etc etc etc.

You're only truly successful in life, both spiritually and financially if you are going at it like someone possessed and that ONLY comes from truly believing in it ... you can't fake that.

Peace [/QUOTE]I agree with you and know this.....however, I guess sarcasm and jokes is not your strong point... smile.gif

D J 1 3 8

11-03-2003, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
it really doesn't matter, does it?No, I suppose it doesn't. I'm just curious. Freaky Dutchman.

Reminds me of that line from Austin Powers: "There's only two things I hate in this world, people who are intolerant of others, and The Dutch!"

DeesKo

11-03-2003, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
I agree with you and know this.....however, I guess sarcasm and jokes is not your strong point... smile.gif nah, I got it, and laughed out loud, but for some reason it sparked a serious moment in me....

because while it's a joke, its not....

.. and really, aren't those the best kinds of jokes anyway ?

Peace

liL Ray

11-03-2003, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by DeesKo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I agree with you and know this.....however, I guess sarcasm and jokes is not your strong point... smile.gif nah, I got it, and laughed out loud, but for some reason it sparked a serious moment in me....

because while it's a joke, its not....

.. and really, aren't those the best kinds of jokes anyway ?

Peace [/QUOTE]true dat...good point...

Keith Blackstone

11-03-2003, 06:41 PM

I think I need to build that dj booth here in my place... so I can be a superstar in my own mind... icon_rofl.gif

gabriel

11-03-2003, 06:43 PM

this is just bizzare.

lol
and
yikes
all rolled into one

Steve Price

11-03-2003, 06:57 PM

Quite possibly he made more money on that one day than many people on this board have made in an entire year. That top 100 list has its place in terms of increasing your earning potential. Don't be so quick to judge inclusion or the list itself as a bad thing. I don't think anyone of the complainers on this board would bitch/complain/object to his or her own inclusion in that top 100 list. DON'T FRONT because in the end it comes down to one thing $$$!!!

SteveP

däp

11-03-2003, 08:35 PM

the music he's playing is powerful (or should i say, is on a powerful system) but i would jump out of a window after listening for more than a minute. mad, crazy, techno, trance, breakbeat, progressive ups to him

[ November 03, 2003, 08:47 PM: Message edited by: t o r i n ]

gabriel

11-03-2003, 08:39 PM

TIESTOakenfold!!!!!!!!!1

lol.. this still makes me laugh.

i love how trance dj's have all the time in the world to just stand around. btw if you pause..even tiesto uses cdr's

Nege

11-03-2003, 08:42 PM

The production of such events are amazing,
Imagine what it would be like to play GOOD music to big crowds like that with killer sound systems.
20,000 people jumpin up to Kerri Chandler and MAW in an arena.......

Dream on Gene............................ graemlins/conf44.gif

[ November 03, 2003, 08:44 PM: Message edited by: Nege ]

däp

11-03-2003, 08:51 PM

check out his website. http://website.tiesto.com/index1.html whew.

Nege

11-03-2003, 08:54 PM

I want a website like that,
I think I am gonna call up someone right now and get them to make me one......

Number Two

11-03-2003, 09:30 PM

I don't think he would be so popular if he was ugly. He is very marketable. He has a lot of star potential. I'm not hating at all. It is in reality,like everyone says,about $. It is about creating a stir in the market. Let's face it,Oakenfold is getting old(by ravers standerds) and had his time,this guy is going to take the newer,younger audience with the same recipe,but add a little more to it to kick it up a notch. Look at the production value that went into this just so a guy can play other peoples music. It was not about the music in this case,it was all about Tiesto,with the music in the background. Whoever is representing this guy,I want to hit the gym,get to my plastic surgen,give satan a call to draw up a contract for my soul,buy a few trance records and have a meeting with his agent. Someone is doing their job well. graemlins/respekt.gif Peace.

[ November 03, 2003, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: Walter Jones ]

houseaddict

11-03-2003, 11:03 PM

I need about twelve ibuprofen after hearing 30 seconds of that CRAP!

I have one question for all of you here on this board....
Where did OUR house music go wrong to not be playing there in that arena? Why is it that SHITTY ASS TRANCE is played like that and not OUR house music? When I play, I look like Tiesto, but with house on the decks.

Just in case you were wondering, that's not music....THAT'S NOISE!! I'd like to have a trance burning like people did for rock n' roll back in the day!!

I HATE THAT SHIT WITH A PASSION!!

Good for Tiesto and all those other cats for gettin paid like there's no tomorrow, but please get some phuckin taste.

[ November 03, 2003, 11:04 PM: Message edited by: houseaddict ]

JMJ

11-04-2003, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by houseaddict:
I need about twelve ibuprofen after hearing 30 seconds of that CRAP!

I have one question for all of you here on this board....
Where did OUR house music go wrong to not be playing there in that arena? Why is it that SHITTY ASS TRANCE is played like that and not OUR house music? You actually asked TWO questions, but the answer is very simple. House music didn't go wrong. WE DID, or more correctly, those that enjoy our music and our scene being UNDERGROUND. Trance is just another spinoff, or subgenre (I hate labels) of house music, and Tiesto appeals to the MAINSTREAM, something the UNDERGROUND loathes with a passion. 21-25 year olds don't dig OUR music, and WE'RE doing nothing to change their minds. They think it's boring lounge music, and it some respects, they're right. The rawness that started it all is missing from OUR music, but still exists in alot of the electronic music MAINSTREAM clubbers listen and dance to. Why isn't Blaze and Amp Fiddler played at major sporting events?? Why don't pom-pom and dance squads perform to "Cerca De Mi" at football and basketball games?? Think about how ridiculous the last two questions sound. Everybody wants to be UNDERGROUND, yet MAINSTREAM at the same time. It ain't happening. We don't know what we want or how to get there, but we reserve the right to bitch about those that are doing their thing. We want to be #1 on a DJ list but nobody knows us. We detest ANYTHING commercial, but don't understand why our music fails to attract major labels anymore. We talk about PLUR (bullshit), and how our scene brings people of all races and backgrounds together, yet we hate EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY that's considered MAINSTREAM. House music never went wrong. House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it, just as hip hop is headed in the same direction. Commercial hip hop is WACK as soon as it crosses over to a WHITE audience. PLUR doesn't exist. Never did. Probably never will. Hypocrisy reigns supreme in the UNDERGROUND, and that's why things are so phucked up. Most people don't wan't to face the truth, which is difficult to do while running away from it. I have spoken........JMJ graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

Number Two

11-04-2003, 12:03 AM

Oh yea,I forgot...
http://www.subterrorhq.com/djshiva/destroytrance.gif

Querck

11-04-2003, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by houseaddict:
I need about twelve ibuprofen after hearing 30 seconds of that CRAP!

I have one question for all of you here on this board....
Where did OUR house music go wrong to not be playing there in that arena? Why is it that SHITTY ASS TRANCE is played like that and not OUR house music? You actually asked TWO questions, but the answer is very simple. House music didn't go wrong. WE DID, or more correctly, those that enjoy our music and our scene being UNDERGROUND. Trance is just another spinoff, or subgenre (I hate labels) of house music, and Tiesto appeals to the MAINSTREAM, something the UNDERGROUND loathes with a passion. 21-25 year olds don't dig OUR music, and WE'RE doing nothing to change their minds. They think it's boring lounge music, and it some respects, they're right. The rawness that started it all is missing from OUR music, but still exists in alot of the electronic music MAINSTREAM clubbers listen and dance to. Why isn't Blaze and Amp Fiddler played at major sporting events?? Why don't pom-pom and dance squads perform to "Cerca De Mi" at football and basketball games?? Think about how ridiculous the last two questions sound. Everybody wants to be UNDERGROUND, yet MAINSTREAM at the same time. It ain't happening. We don't know what we want or how to get there, but we reserve the right to bitch about those that are doing their thing. We want to be #1 on a DJ list but nobody knows us. We detest ANYTHING commercial, but don't understand why our music fails to attract major labels anymore. We talk about PLUR (bullshit), and how our scene brings people of all races and backgrounds together, yet we hate EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY that's considered MAINSTREAM. House music never went wrong. House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it, just as hip hop is headed in the same direction. Commercial hip hop is WACK as soon as it crosses over to a WHITE audience. PLUR doesn't exist. Never did. Probably never will. Hypocrisy reigns supreme in the UNDERGROUND, and that's why things are so phucked up. Most people don't wan't to face the truth, which is difficult to do while running away from it. I have spoken........JMJ graemlins/jpshakehead.gif [/QUOTE]Very well said graemlins/acclaim.gif . Except for the "rawness" part. I think there are still a bunch of house cuts that are very raw. Rawness is not the issue: Detroit techno is the ultimate form of raw funk and it's even less mainstream than house. So it's gotta be the melodic nature of trance that appeals to the mainstream--easy melodies that are easy to identify with.

Querck

11-04-2003, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
so I can be a superstar in my own mind... icon_rofl.gif This is where it all begins anyway. If you don't think you're a superstar, nobody else will.

Querck

11-04-2003, 01:44 AM

Am I tripping or does this guy look a little like me (especially when I'm wearing one of my Dutch soccer shirts)?

Did anyone notice how that first song is a cover of the theme melody from the movie "Platoon"? See, this is typical trance ish--give people something familiar that they can connect with.

Querck

11-04-2003, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Nege:
The production of such events are amazing,
Imagine what it would be like to play GOOD music to big crowds like that with killer sound systems.
20,000 people jumpin up to Kerri Chandler and MAW in an arena.......

Dream on Gene............................ graemlins/conf44.gif How about DEMF? Well it wasn't Kerri or MAW, but alot of great underground music on a huge soundsystmem to tens of thousands people who were going nuts and crowd-surfing! The main stage at night at DEMF was not too far off from the Tiesto concert.

Jay Rags

11-04-2003, 02:25 AM

I am absolutely disgusted by the throne this guy is on for playing some shit you can't even groove to. As I type this I am trying to hold back insults for this type of shit but damn!!! This is ****in' bullshit. Who cares if he gets paid. A crackhead can make money having sex but that don't mean its some good stuff she's selling. This is exactly how dance music got put in different genres. I know I wouldn't want someone to tell me there is some good dance music in this place, only to get there without my Advil....extra strength graemlins/acclaim.gif

gabriel

11-04-2003, 02:34 AM

i dont understand how this guy got to be #1 beyond it being marketing related.

i've seen sasha, and to tell you the truth he had the whole room locked on to a slow, badass, pumping and THICK groove. now, it was nothing like the sort of liftoff i've been given by certain house sets i've been witness to...but the set was still no joke.

listening to this vid though it's just fast, easy to be processed and that's about it. no real depth, just rahrahrahrahrahrah. so whatever.

"progressive" music aside, i agree with the basic sentiments of jmj. when i first read that question my thought was something along the lines of how people became too concerned with what "was house" and what "wasn't house" and that's a turn-off, period. i dont blame it being on white people though...it's too easy to pass the buck. and if it was white people's fault no one was listening to this music, then how come so many people are listening to the music being marketed by whites, etc?

Nege

11-04-2003, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by dannyboy:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Nege:
The production of such events are amazing,
Imagine what it would be like to play GOOD music to big crowds like that with killer sound systems.
20,000 people jumpin up to Kerri Chandler and MAW in an arena.......

Dream on Gene............................ graemlins/conf44.gif How about DEMF? Well it wasn't Kerri or MAW, but alot of great underground music on a huge soundsystmem to tens of thousands people who were going nuts and crowd-surfing! The main stage at night at DEMF was not too far off from the Tiesto concert. [/QUOTE]yes I remember ,
but I would still like this to happen on a regular basis,
JMJ summed it up in one long paragraph.

[ November 04, 2003, 03:00 AM: Message edited by: Nege ]

Nege

11-04-2003, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
i dont understand how this guy got to be #1 beyond it being marketing related.

i've seen sasha, and to tell you the truth he had the whole room locked on to a slow, badass, pumping and THICK groove. now, it was nothing like the sort of liftoff i've been given by certain house sets i've been witness to...but the set was still no joke.

listening to this vid though it's just fast, easy to be processed and that's about it. no real depth, just rahrahrahrahrahrah. so whatever.

"progressive" music aside, i agree with the basic sentiments of jmj. when i first read that question my thought was something along the lines of how people became too concerned with what "was house" and what "wasn't house" and that's a turn-off, period. i dont blame it being on white people though...it's too easy to pass the buck. and if it was white people's fault no one was listening to this music, then how come so many people are listening to the music being marketed by whites, etc? why?
because the music is being MARKETED in the first place,
Unlike Ours.................

mk7

11-04-2003, 03:08 AM

That sh*t is just funny - 99% of the heads on this board should be happy not upset/frustrated watching that ****

I agree with JMJ's sentiment, but I think the basis premise is flawed... to say that the house 'scene' is not reaching that kind of commercial pinnacle because of any wrongdoing on behalf of those involved is simply not true.

this comes down to taste alone: our music will never reach the mainstream audience required to create obscene specticles like tiesto's circus... the regular punter that is looking for that instant 'energy' kick. it's simply that taste's differ and we should be celebrating this difference. what we'd term 'real' house music in all it's forms will never appeal to those who have no more than a passing recreational interest in music, thats f***ing great with me - you guys do your thing, we'll do ours and good luck to you!

it's really pointless to frustrate yourself over why we're not standing in a 30000+ arena. i for one am very glad not to be! i wonder how many of us would still be here if Kerri, Timmy and others were actually playing this type of circus, and our music was accepted by the mainstream??!?

peace
mark

Fred Naked

11-04-2003, 04:48 AM

Much respect to JMJ, a very serious and deadly accurate portrayal of what's happening to our music. Again though, my only criticism is the rawness debate; plenty of cuts of our music (much like the detroit stuff) is raw as.

marki

11-04-2003, 05:58 AM

This is music for babys, its easy on the ear only when speeding or E'ing your face off. Boy racers love it too and I kin hate them..

Its not about the mainstream. This stuff is just horrible, look, we are spoilt by top class musicians and vocalists, jeez.

Spitting feathers now, leave em to it they r all on drugs!!!!!!

liL Ray

11-04-2003, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by JMJ:
[QUOTE] You actually asked TWO questions, but the answer is very simple. House music didn't go wrong. WE DID, or more correctly, those that enjoy our music and our scene being UNDERGROUND. Trance is just another spinoff, or subgenre (I hate labels) of house music, and Tiesto appeals to the MAINSTREAM, something the UNDERGROUND loathes with a passion. 21-25 year olds don't dig OUR music, and WE'RE doing nothing to change their minds. They think it's boring lounge music, and it some respects, they're right. The rawness that started it all is missing from OUR music, but still exists in alot of the electronic music MAINSTREAM clubbers listen and dance to. Why isn't Blaze and Amp Fiddler played at major sporting events?? Why don't pom-pom and dance squads perform to "Cerca De Mi" at football and basketball games?? Think about how ridiculous the last two questions sound. Everybody wants to be UNDERGROUND, yet MAINSTREAM at the same time. It ain't happening. We don't know what we want or how to get there, but we reserve the right to bitch about those that are doing their thing. We want to be #1 on a DJ list but nobody knows us. We detest ANYTHING commercial, but don't understand why our music fails to attract major labels anymore. We talk about PLUR (bullshit), and how our scene brings people of all races and backgrounds together, yet we hate EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY that's considered MAINSTREAM. House music never went wrong. House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it, just as hip hop is headed in the same direction. Commercial hip hop is WACK as soon as it crosses over to a WHITE audience. PLUR doesn't exist. Never did. Probably never will. Hypocrisy reigns supreme in the UNDERGROUND, and that's why things are so phucked up. Most people don't wan't to face the truth, which is difficult to do while running away from it. I have spoken........JMJ graemlins/jpshakehead.gif This may actually be the best thing you have written since I have been reading your responses.

There are many things that you are dead on right about.....there are a few things that you have said that I don't see a problem with, even if you wrote it from the aspect that we have done wrong.

Good post...it should have been a topic on it's own.

dj c-los

11-04-2003, 06:22 AM

I know I jump around too and have fun when i spin but next time i think I'm going to point at people in the crowd and smile at the ceiling just to add more to the show!

graemlins/cheering.gif

DJ76

11-04-2003, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by mk7:
That sh*t is just funny - 99% of the heads on this board should be happy not upset/frustrated watching that ****

I agree with JMJ's sentiment, but I think the basis premise is flawed... to say that the house 'scene' is not reaching that kind of commercial pinnacle because of any wrongdoing on behalf of those involved is simply not true.

this comes down to taste alone: our music will never reach the mainstream audience required to create obscene specticles like tiesto's circus... the regular punter that is looking for that instant 'energy' kick. it's simply that taste's differ and we should be celebrating this difference. what we'd term 'real' house music in all it's forms will never appeal to those who have no more than a passing recreational interest in music, thats f***ing great with me - you guys do your thing, we'll do ours and good luck to you!

it's really pointless to frustrate yourself over why we're not standing in a 30000+ arena. i for one am very glad not to be! i wonder how many of us would still be here if Kerri, Timmy and others were actually playing this type of circus, and our music was accepted by the mainstream??!?

peace
mark I think what you just wrote in spot-on. I regularly expose friends and co-workers to the music we listen to and I can see how they attention time span is short because most of them don't spend as much time and energy with regards to music. They go out to clubs or bars and just dance to whatever is out there, purely recreational whereas for some of us, it's a life style.

I lent one of my CDs to a colleague, and she told me "if it's one of those songs that go on forever, forget about it", which shows right away the difference between those that want that instant kick in comparison to those that want to enjoy the track and get into it. The repetitive nature of our music really ticks of a lot of people, and we like it! I had read somewhere that repetitive beats calm down your cerebral nerves or something to that sort, I'm not expert in that field; perhaps a portion of music listeners don't listen to music to have a mind trip but want constant stimulation by a 3-minutes track that'll do the job.

liL Ray

11-04-2003, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by mk7:
i wonder how many of us would still be here if Kerri, Timmy and others were actually playing this type of circus, and our music was accepted by the mainstream??!?

peace
mark A very profound statement...very deep...my spin on the above statement that I always harp on is, how many of us would be able to get in?

Good point.

liL Ray

11-04-2003, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by DJ76:
[QUOTE]
I lent one of my CDs to a colleague, and she told me "if it's one of those songs that go on forever, forget about it", isn't she/he describing what trance is all about? I don't think the music we play/love is repetitive...unless that's how you want to present it in a mix.

For the record, I did enjoy what Tiesto was playing on that little clip and could probably get into it under the right situation.

Ron la Rock

11-04-2003, 08:51 AM

altrrdst8

11-04-2003, 09:09 AM

omg the mixing is hideous. makes you wonder. this euro pap has not evolved in over 10 years. nasty nasty nasty.

[ November 04, 2003, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: altrrdst8 ]

Cheddar

11-04-2003, 09:15 AM

Know thyself...
Differentiate...this is for fun/love....that is for Money.
I would go shirtless for that money and believe me it aint pretty.

Ron la Rock

11-04-2003, 09:21 AM

all the typical deeep house responses I'm not feelin at all graemlins/puke.gif graemlins/puke.gif

i still fail 2 see the humor in fact I think it should be taken dead serious
(not in a hate on way/but lets face it in areal plan action way)

1 where and how far dance music can go
(do we agree we are still apart of dance music?)

2 its appeal and power in the market place
as we've been thru many a time some buisness sense and money wouldn't hurt any of our artist/lables/producers/djs we claim 2 love
so much
this says we really don't have 2 imagine it
it can happen how I don't know
but there s a team who made this guy work
can't be but so impossible.......

ramblin i know

[ November 04, 2003, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Ron paizley ]

D J 1 3 8

11-04-2003, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
how many of us would be able to get in?Indeed.

[ November 04, 2003, 10:00 AM: Message edited by: DJ 138 ]

marki

11-04-2003, 10:16 AM

Just talking in terms of the records this is playing, how much SOUL is within? let me ask. We all love to listen to soul music don't we? Thats what I think. I don't care what this guy earns, I don't care how many kids pile in and pay through the nose to fry there brains on god knows what, listening to god knows what. But I'm as open as the next man, and I am happy in the fact that I know what I like and its musical and above all its got SOUL.

5haus

11-04-2003, 10:22 AM

it seems that (unproportional) success in itself is desirable for many of you. that's the result of a trick played on you. keep em down but let them dream and get glimpses of the holy grail so they'll gladly bend their backs to the system's rules.

but it's tipical for the times we live in: success is unconditionally good

on a practical note, how in hell can you even think of separating form (success) so bluntly from content (mass-appealing populist music in this case) and naively ask why deep house is not as successful as trance. graemlins/stupid.gif

gabriel

11-04-2003, 10:29 AM

i think alot of the music coming out now, house included perhaps, is the result of musical ADD that's developed. the formula has gotten so engrained (since say, elvis) that people can only focus on a piece of music for 3.32 seconds.

no one has any patience to feel music develop. it's why "classical" music is such an astoundingly niche, geezer-driven market. and that's pretty sad.

luckly some rockers are starting to defy that (like, say radiohead a bit)...but mostly we've all got ADD.

5haus

11-04-2003, 10:36 AM

check what theo parrish has to say on this, it's in the news section

http://deephousepage.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=039741

DJ76

11-04-2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ76:

I lent one of my CDs to a colleague, and she told me "if it's one of those songs that go on forever, forget about it", isn't she/he describing what trance is all about? I don't think the music we play/love is repetitive...unless that's how you want to present it in a mix.

For the record, I did enjoy what Tiesto was playing on that little clip and could probably get into it under the right situation. Sorry, I forgot to specify that she isn't into trance either, she listens mostly to hip-hop or rock as well as other mainstream sort of music. She wouldn't be able to stand trance. On that note, she would be ready to dance to some of our music, the ones that are closer to the hip-hop sound and I know many people that have a similar state. So I didn't even try to shove some Detroit sound in her ears, she'd just fall asleep! LOL!

Ray, to a certain extent, our music is repetitive if we compare to other style of music, for example rock, where the tempo and the melody will vary to a higher extent than house or techno.

And to add to what you were saying about enjoying his set, it's a question of tolerance and how difficult one can get. As much as I like the music we listen to, I try not to be a party-pooper when I'm with people in a club where they play trance, rock, crap, etc... luckily there is graemlins/all_coholic.gif

jsd540

11-04-2003, 11:40 AM

Although I really can't listen to trance for too long (those high pitched arpeggios (sp?) give me a headache ) I can imagine the palce was bumpin' and people payed 40-50 bucks to get in. So he made money and he had a good time, thats all I really want too, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Ron la Rock

11-04-2003, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by jsd540:
Although I really can't listen to trance for too long (those high pitched arpeggios (sp?) give me a headache ) I can imagine the palce was bumpin' and people payed 40-50 bucks to get in. So he made money and he had a good time, thats all I really want too, and there is nothing wrong with that. exactley but it was posted like it was a joke
where can any of us deeep folk go and get t like that and have the guy leaving knowing he got paid for his service as well

julian_kelly

11-04-2003, 12:07 PM

Scenario:

You are offered to spin at a massive trance gig in an area like Tiesto....40 thousand or more folk...$50 a head...4 hours you get paid

The promoter gives you a few thousand dollars to buy all the current and old trance tunes...plus the time to learn them.

How many of you would take the gig?

How many wouldnt?

julian kelly

JMJ

11-04-2003, 12:09 PM

daniel

11-04-2003, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it please point to the timeline and show me where the first white person enjoyed house music.

Querck

11-04-2003, 12:18 PM

jimmymack-2000

11-04-2003, 12:21 PM

JMJ

11-04-2003, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it please point to the timeline and show me where the first white person enjoyed house music. [/QUOTE]Time to get stupid, right?? OK, I'll play along. 1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. It's got nothing to do with enjoying. Once house crossed over and became ACCEPTED by WHITES, it was over. How old are you??......JMJ

Ron la Rock

11-04-2003, 12:25 PM

JMJ

11-04-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it please point to the timeline and show me where the first white person enjoyed house music. [/QUOTE]Hahaha, JMJ hisself would have to be one of the first, wouldn't he? THANKS FOR RUINING HOUSE JMJ!! [/QUOTE]Hahaha @ hisself. Your command of the language is amazing.......JMJ

liL Ray

11-04-2003, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by julian_kelly:
Scenario:

You are offered to spin at a massive trance gig in an area like Tiesto....40 thousand or more folk...$50 a head...4 hours you get paid

The promoter gives you a few thousand dollars to buy all the current and old trance tunes...plus the time to learn them.

How many of you would take the gig?

How many wouldnt?

julian kelly I would do it....and it's not because of the money....as a person playing records, there is nothing more exhilarating and stimulating than playing music to crowd of people who are loosing there minds to what you are playing....the crowd is why I would do it...why we would all do it.

...let's keep it real!!

jimmymack-2000

11-04-2003, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
Hahaha @ hisself. Your command of the language is amazing.......JMJ Is this how you bolster your self-esteem? Making fun of the linguistically challenged?

Anyway, whitey was into "Jack Your Body" a year earlier than "Big Fun," easily.

daniel

11-04-2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it please point to the timeline and show me where the first white person enjoyed house music. [/QUOTE]Time to get stupid, right?? OK, I'll play along. 1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. It's got nothing to do with enjoying. Once house crossed over and became ACCEPTED by WHITES, it was over. How old are you??......JMJ [/QUOTE]but you just said that house music was ruined when white people started enjoying it. now it's not about enjoying it? you're very confusing.

JMJ

11-04-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Hahaha @ hisself. Your command of the language is amazing.......JMJ Is this how you bolster your self-esteem? Making fun of the linguistically challenged?

Anyway, whitey was into "Jack Your Body" a year earlier than "Big Fun," easily. [/QUOTE]Big Fun had a much bigger impact. Multimedia marketing. Self-esteem is not a problem. Learn the language.....JMJ

JMJ

11-04-2003, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it please point to the timeline and show me where the first white person enjoyed house music. [/QUOTE]Time to get stupid, right?? OK, I'll play along. 1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. It's got nothing to do with enjoying. Once house crossed over and became ACCEPTED by WHITES, it was over. How old are you??......JMJ [/QUOTE]but you just said that house music was ruined when white people started enjoying it. now it's not about enjoying it? you're very confusing. [/QUOTE]Be confused then. Maybe it's your multiple chins.......JMJ

11-04-2003, 01:26 PM

F House music. I will convert to Trance so I can be bling blingin' and get some bizznitches up on deez nuts. Trance is the way to go. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/djmixing.gif

daniel

11-04-2003, 01:28 PM

Be confused then. Maybe it's your multiple chins.......JMJ

contradiction, deflection and weak jokes. all in a days work, eh?

[ November 04, 2003, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: daniel ]

JMJ

11-04-2003, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Be confused then. Maybe it's your multiple chins.......JMJ

contradiction, deflection and weak jokes. all in a days work, eh? [/QUOTE]Whatever works. Nice edit, chins.....JMJ

D J 1 3 8

11-04-2003, 01:37 PM

:rolleyes:

NOW wer're gettin' somehere...

:popcorn:

daniel

11-04-2003, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Be confused then. Maybe it's your multiple chins.......JMJ

contradiction, deflection and weak jokes. all in a days work, eh? [/QUOTE]Whatever works. Nice edit, chins.....JMJ [/QUOTE]the edit was due to your shadow cuttin' in.

all i asked for was a simple answer. you couldn't provide one that made sense, then went into defense mode and deferred to jokes. now, did you have a point to make with anything, or are you just trying to look like the funny guy in front of everyone?

JMJ

11-04-2003, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Be confused then. Maybe it's your multiple chins.......JMJ

contradiction, deflection and weak jokes. all in a days work, eh? [/QUOTE]Whatever works. Nice edit, chins.....JMJ [/QUOTE]the edit was due to your shadow cuttin' in.

all i asked for was a simple answer. you couldn't provide one that made sense, then went into defense mode and deferred to jokes. now, did you have a point to make with anything, or are you just trying to look like the funny guy in front of everyone? [/QUOTE]Sorry, I just can't take you seriously......JMJ

daniel

11-04-2003, 02:15 PM

sorry for poking holes in your argument, i promise to make you look smarter next time.

JMJ

11-04-2003, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
sorry for poking holes in your argument, i promise to make you look smarter next time. I stand by my original statement. Have you considered lipo??......JMJ

daniel

11-04-2003, 02:38 PM

i see you still can't see a post of mine go un-replied.

have you considered a hat?

JMJ

11-04-2003, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
i see you still can't see a post of mine go un-replied.

have you considered a hat? I love you and your chins. Have a great day......JMJ graemlins/remybussi.gif

Martin Red

11-04-2003, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Hahaha @ hisself. Your command of the language is amazing.......JMJ Is this how you bolster your self-esteem? Making fun of the linguistically challenged?

Anyway, whitey was into "Jack Your Body" a year earlier than "Big Fun," easily. [/QUOTE]over a year - easily graemlins/grinyes.gif

Jack your body - 1986
Big Fun - 1988

JMJ

11-04-2003, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Martin Red:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Hahaha @ hisself. Your command of the language is amazing.......JMJ Is this how you bolster your self-esteem? Making fun of the linguistically challenged?

Anyway, whitey was into "Jack Your Body" a year earlier than "Big Fun," easily. [/QUOTE]over a year - easily graemlins/grinyes.gif

Jack your body - 1986
Big Fun - 1988 [/QUOTE]1985 for some of us with test pressings in Chicago, but again, Big Fun had a much greater IMPACT.....JMJ

Martin Red

11-04-2003, 02:57 PM

Oh you lucky Chi cat JMJ

UK Chart wise: -

"and then a record that spent months gestating in the clubs before it was finally catapulted to Number One in January 1987 - Jim Silk's 'Jack Your Body' "
http://www.jahsonic.com/DJInternational.html

Did it ever make it into U.S charts ?

daniel

11-04-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. 1) you're white
2) you had house music records in 1985
3) house was ruined when white people got into it in 1988 because of a beer commercial

somehow this makes sense to you?

jimmymack-2000

11-04-2003, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Martin Red:
Oh you lucky Chi cat JMJ

UK Chart wise: -

"and then a record that spent months gestating in the clubs before it was finally catapulted to Number One in January 1987 - Jim Silk's 'Jack Your Body' "
http://www.jahsonic.com/DJInternational.html

Did it ever make it into U.S charts ? "Big Fun," meanwhile, made its U.K. chart debut at 25, climbing to the Top Ten for one week only at 7...

Retrocharts--Early September 1988 (http://www.everyhit.com/retrocharts/1988-SeptemberA.html)

Martin Red

11-04-2003, 03:06 PM

I won't answer for anyone but I'll say this before i go, There is a difference between a guy being into something and a company using the music to sell a product.

all the best

JMJ

11-04-2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. 1) you're white
2) you had house music records in 1985
3) house was ruined when white people got into it in 1988 because of a beer commercial

somehow this makes sense to you? [/QUOTE]I'll disregard #3 because you've taken it out of context. As to #1 & #2, what do you know about me or the Chicago scene back then? NOTHING, so shut up and listen. I was the EXCEPTION, not the rule back then. Chicago is HIGHLY segregated, and WHITES were not into house music back then. I didn't make it playing to a WHITE crowd, Einstein. Blacks and Hispanics attended most of the clubs and parties that I played, and were the target audience of the WBMX and WGCI mixshows. It wasn't until B96 switched formats that whites really started getting into house music here. Rather than being an argumentative phucking know-it-all that knows nothing, why not sit back and LISTEN for once. Have you ever done ANYTHING in this business other than run your mouth??......JMJ

[ November 04, 2003, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: JMJ ]

mhd

11-04-2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. 1) you're white
2) you had house music records in 1985
3) house was ruined when white people got into it in 1988 because of a beer commercial

somehow this makes sense to you? [/QUOTE]I'll disregard #3 because you've taken it out of context. As to #1 & #2, what do you know about me or the Chicago scene back then? NOTHING, so shut up and listen. I was the EXCEPTION, not the rule back then. Chicago is HIGHLY segregated, and WHITES were not into house music back then. I didn't make it playing to a WHITE crowd, Einstein. Blacks and Hispanics attended most of the clubs and parties that I played, and were the target audience of the WBMX and WGCI mixshows. It wasn't until B96 switched formats that whites really started getting into house music here. Rather than being an argumentative phucking know-it-all that knows nothing, why not sit back and LISTEN for once. Have you ever done ANYTHING in this business other than shoot your mouth??......JMJ [/QUOTE]word, j, what year was that when B96 changed formats?

JMJ

11-04-2003, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
Oh you lucky Chi cat JMJ

UK Chart wise: -

"and then a record that spent months gestating in the clubs before it was finally catapulted to Number One in January 1987 - Jim Silk's 'Jack Your Body' "
http://www.jahsonic.com/DJInternational.html

Did it ever make it into U.S charts ? "Big Fun," meanwhile, made its U.K. chart debut at 25, climbing to the Top Ten for one week only at 7...

Retrocharts--Early September 1988 (http://www.everyhit.com/retrocharts/1988-SeptemberA.html) [/QUOTE]It's not about charts. No house music record had been marketed thru radio, video, clubs, or advertising like Big Fun at that point. That's what made the difference......JMJ

JMJ

11-04-2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by mhd:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. 1) you're white
2) you had house music records in 1985
3) house was ruined when white people got into it in 1988 because of a beer commercial

somehow this makes sense to you? [/QUOTE]I'll disregard #3 because you've taken it out of context. As to #1 & #2, what do you know about me or the Chicago scene back then? NOTHING, so shut up and listen. I was the EXCEPTION, not the rule back then. Chicago is HIGHLY segregated, and WHITES were not into house music back then. I didn't make it playing to a WHITE crowd, Einstein. Blacks and Hispanics attended most of the clubs and parties that I played, and were the target audience of the WBMX and WGCI mixshows. It wasn't until B96 switched formats that whites really started getting into house music here. Rather than being an argumentative phucking know-it-all that knows nothing, why not sit back and LISTEN for once. Have you ever done ANYTHING in this business other than shoot your mouth??......JMJ [/QUOTE]word, j, what year was that when B96 changed formats? [/QUOTE]They switched to a Dance format in 1988, although they started playing Top 40 mixes in 86, and experimented with dance mixes in late 87......JMJ

daniel

11-04-2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. 1) you're white
2) you had house music records in 1985
3) house was ruined when white people got into it in 1988 because of a beer commercial

somehow this makes sense to you? [/QUOTE]I'll disregard #3 because you've taken it out of context. As to #1 & #2, what do you know about me or the Chicago scene back then? NOTHING, so shut up and listen. I was the EXCEPTION, not the rule back then. Chicago is HIGHLY segregated, and WHITES were not into house music back then. I didn't make it playing to a WHITE crowd, Einstein. Blacks and Hispanics attended most of the clubs and parties that I played, and were the target audience of the WBMX and WGCI mixshows. It wasn't until B96 switched formats that whites really started getting into house music here. Rather than being an argumentative phucking know-it-all that knows nothing, why not sit back and LISTEN for once. Have you ever done ANYTHING in this business other than run your mouth??......JMJ [/QUOTE]fukkin' finally. why did it take you so long to write this? there are exceptions to everything, so why go and make statements that you are an exception to? and finally, why are you so mad?

JMJ

11-04-2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. 1) you're white
2) you had house music records in 1985
3) house was ruined when white people got into it in 1988 because of a beer commercial

somehow this makes sense to you? [/QUOTE]I'll disregard #3 because you've taken it out of context. As to #1 & #2, what do you know about me or the Chicago scene back then? NOTHING, so shut up and listen. I was the EXCEPTION, not the rule back then. Chicago is HIGHLY segregated, and WHITES were not into house music back then. I didn't make it playing to a WHITE crowd, Einstein. Blacks and Hispanics attended most of the clubs and parties that I played, and were the target audience of the WBMX and WGCI mixshows. It wasn't until B96 switched formats that whites really started getting into house music here. Rather than being an argumentative phucking know-it-all that knows nothing, why not sit back and LISTEN for once. Have you ever done ANYTHING in this business other than run your mouth??......JMJ [/QUOTE]fukkin' finally. why did it take you so long to write this? there are exceptions to everything, so why go and make statements that you are an exception to? and finally, why are you so mad? [/QUOTE]You are clueless. Argue with someone else.....JMJ

daniel

11-04-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
1988 - Inner City - Big Fun becomes a huge MAINSTREAM hit. Remember the beer commercial?? That was the beginning. 1) you're white
2) you had house music records in 1985
3) house was ruined when white people got into it in 1988 because of a beer commercial

somehow this makes sense to you? [/QUOTE]I'll disregard #3 because you've taken it out of context. As to #1 & #2, what do you know about me or the Chicago scene back then? NOTHING, so shut up and listen. I was the EXCEPTION, not the rule back then. Chicago is HIGHLY segregated, and WHITES were not into house music back then. I didn't make it playing to a WHITE crowd, Einstein. Blacks and Hispanics attended most of the clubs and parties that I played, and were the target audience of the WBMX and WGCI mixshows. It wasn't until B96 switched formats that whites really started getting into house music here. Rather than being an argumentative phucking know-it-all that knows nothing, why not sit back and LISTEN for once. Have you ever done ANYTHING in this business other than run your mouth??......JMJ [/QUOTE]fukkin' finally. why did it take you so long to write this? there are exceptions to everything, so why go and make statements that you are an exception to? and finally, why are you so mad? [/QUOTE]You are clueless. Argue with someone else.....JMJ [/QUOTE]when someone makes statements i find to be incorrect, i usually do.

i'm only arguing with a statement i found to be untrue, you just happened to say it.

why are you so mad?

john

11-04-2003, 03:53 PM

HOLY MACARONI...

King Vitamin

11-04-2003, 04:18 PM

hail.gif hail.gif
I was theEXCEPTION, not the rule back then.Woody has spoken, i mean come on, he's the "exception", so just bow down and let him reign supreme, it doesn't matter if he's white with a fade, it's all about the music ya know, he's old school, wise, experienced, and may know a bit more than most people, so don't come to DHP with a topic like that because well, Mr. Stash is too busy with other things, just let him rest, he needs it, he's getting to old for this crap.

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-04-2003, 04:33 PM

"Am I tripping or does this guy look a little like me (especially when I'm wearing one of my Dutch soccer shirts)" - DANNYBOY

Dan I swear the first time i watched it I was like "Damn dude looks like Dannyboy up there

hahaha icon_rofl.gif

statuskuo

11-04-2003, 04:38 PM

King Vitamin

11-04-2003, 04:40 PM

graemlins/beerchug.gif

statuskuo

11-04-2003, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
Be confused then. Maybe it's your multiple chins.......JMJ [/QUOTE] originality in disses counts a lot here on DHP.

think about it.

Jamie 3:26

11-04-2003, 04:47 PM

What's the big deal over this guy anyways???

No one ever got paid staying underground.

This shit goes for deephouse too.
Cats tripped on Frankie when he flipped the script..then he left.Hmmm,do you think he would have reached the level he is on now if he stayed true to the underground and continued playing the shit he was known for??

These professionals who gig out on the norm are artists,just like comedians and bands,they have a routine they do,it changes from city to city,but it's mainly the same thing they just change up certain things due to location.

If you can get paid doin' what you love...do it...forget what others think,they just may be scared to just say f.uck it and just do it.It takes a lot to go out and get something that you want.It don't take shit or any effort to knock something...

daniel

11-04-2003, 04:47 PM

hahahaha, nice kuote.

statuskuo

11-04-2003, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
hahahaha, nice kuote. why are you so fat, chins? don't make me "clown" you here, surfer whale.

King Vitamin

11-04-2003, 04:53 PM

why are you so fat, chins? don't make me "clown" you here, surfer whale.you forgot your momma

statuskuo

11-04-2003, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by jmpayne:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />why are you so fat, chins? don't make me "clown" you here, surfer whale.you forgot your momma [/QUOTE]post of the week. rezpek.

daniel

11-04-2003, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by statuskuo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
hahahaha, nice kuote. why are you so fat, chins? don't make me "clown" you here, surfer whale. [/QUOTE]hahahaha

john

11-04-2003, 05:07 PM

House music never went wrong. House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it, just as hip hop is headed in the same direction. Commercial hip hop is WACK as soon as it crosses over to a WHITE audience. [/QB][/QUOTE]

hmmmmmmmmmm???? :rolleyes:

statuskuo

11-04-2003, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by john:
House music never went wrong. House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it, just as hip hop is headed in the same direction. Commercial hip hop is WACK as soon as it crosses over to a WHITE audience. hmmmmmmmmmm???? :rolleyes: [/QB][/QUOTE] enjoy = spending money on it.

King Vitamin

11-04-2003, 05:16 PM

post of the week. rezpek.respect=rezpek or is it rezpek=respect

ahh man. i don't know.

where is T.J. hooker when you need him

JMJ

11-04-2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by jmpayne:
hail.gif hail.gif <blockquote>quote:<hr />I was theEXCEPTION, not the rule back then.Woody has spoken, i mean come on, he's the "exception", so just bow down and let him reign supreme, it doesn't matter if he's white with a fade, it's all about the music ya know, he's old school, wise, experienced, and may know a bit more than most people, so don't come to DHP with a topic like that because well, Mr. Stash is too busy with other things, just let him rest, he needs it, he's getting to old for this crap. [/QUOTE]And just who the PHUCK are you????......JMJ

King Vitamin

11-04-2003, 06:09 PM

im sorry mastah jay, didn't mean to respond so late, i'll do my best next time, don't wanna upset mastah jay, you ain;t gonna punish me right? mastah jay?

JMJ

11-04-2003, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by jmpayne:
im sorry mastah jay, didn't mean to respond so late, i'll do my best next time, don't wanna upset mastah jay, you ain;t gonna punish me right? mastah jay? Your grammar is horrible. I feel sorry for you.....JMJ

DJ Michael Terzian (Sinister)

11-04-2003, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Steve Price:
Quite possibly he made more money on that one day than many people on this board have made in an entire year. That top 100 list has its place in terms of increasing your earning potential. Don't be so quick to judge inclusion or the list itself as a bad thing. I don't think anyone of the complainers on this board would bitch/complain/object to his or her own inclusion in that top 100 list. DON'T FRONT because in the end it comes down to one thing $$$!!!

SteveP I beg to differ Steve. If I had to play that kind of crap to make it on the list, I would decline. I would be much more fulfilled to be a bedroom jock playing "peach melba" by Blaze. Money isn't everything.

King Vitamin

11-04-2003, 06:27 PM

ahh.... the grammar line, well i didn't expect that one, so i better run and hide now. good night hail.gif

Brut by Faberge

11-04-2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
You actually asked TWO questions, but the answer is very simple. House music didn't go wrong. WE DID, or more correctly, those that enjoy our music and our scene being UNDERGROUND. Trance is just another spinoff, or subgenre (I hate labels) of house music, and Tiesto appeals to the MAINSTREAM, something the UNDERGROUND loathes with a passion. 21-25 year olds don't dig OUR music, and WE'RE doing nothing to change their minds. They think it's boring lounge music, and it some respects, they're right. The rawness that started it all is missing from OUR music, but still exists in alot of the electronic music MAINSTREAM clubbers listen and dance to. Why isn't Blaze and Amp Fiddler played at major sporting events?? Why don't pom-pom and dance squads perform to "Cerca De Mi" at football and basketball games?? Think about how ridiculous the last two questions sound. Everybody wants to be UNDERGROUND, yet MAINSTREAM at the same time. It ain't happening. We don't know what we want or how to get there, but we reserve the right to bitch about those that are doing their thing. We want to be #1 on a DJ list but nobody knows us. We detest ANYTHING commercial, but don't understand why our music fails to attract major labels anymore. We talk about PLUR (bullshit), and how our scene brings people of all races and backgrounds together, yet we hate EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY that's considered MAINSTREAM. House music never went wrong. House music became WACK as soon as WHITE PEOPLE began to enjoy it, just as hip hop is headed in the same direction. Commercial hip hop is WACK as soon as it crosses over to a WHITE audience. PLUR doesn't exist. Never did. Probably never will. Hypocrisy reigns supreme in the UNDERGROUND, and that's why things are so phucked up. Most people don't wan't to face the truth, which is difficult to do while running away from it. I have spoken........JMJ graemlins/jpshakehead.gif damn...i mean can we just permanently post this at the top of every thread so we never need bother again....to wonder WHYYYYY!

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-04-2003, 06:34 PM

can anybody help me to name a few financialy successful "deep house" djs out there. You know the type of dudes walkin with 10Gs in the pocket after a night of playing records :eek:

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-04-2003, 06:36 PM

ok how about just "house" djs

Jay Rags

11-04-2003, 11:44 PM

Man what would a list do for you....It would only show you that there are actually Underground House dj's who make a lot of money creating and playing good sounding House music.......I would rather be a money making dj who plays good quality music than a money making dj who plays crap to some music fans who are just "stopping by" a genre while they are in their early 20's.

Querck

11-04-2003, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by DJ CHRIS PURTELL:
can anybody help me to name a few financialy successful "deep house" djs out there. You know the type of dudes walkin with 10Gs in the pocket after a night of playing records :eek: Do you really not know the answer to your own question?

11-05-2003, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by Big Sexy:
What's the big deal over this guy anyways???

No one ever got paid staying underground.

This shit goes for deephouse too.
Cats tripped on Frankie when he flipped the script..then he left.Hmmm,do you think he would have reached the level he is on now if he stayed true to the underground and continued playing the shit he was known for??

These professionals who gig out on the norm are artists,just like comedians and bands,they have a routine they do,it changes from city to city,but it's mainly the same thing they just change up certain things due to location.

If you can get paid doin' what you love...do it...forget what others think,they just may be scared to just say f.uck it and just do it.It takes a lot to go out and get something that you want.It don't take shit or any effort to knock something... "ding, ding, ding...we have a winner."

Woody Rosen

11-05-2003, 01:08 AM

Martin Red

11-05-2003, 06:15 AM

This thread has actually turned out OK, better than Tiesticles pic.

Some things to point out from people comments, Big Fun being a huge crossover hit - with video etc.

Well, There was a BBC video made for "Jack you body" a lot earlier, when it went straight in at No 1. The BBC made the video as they couldn't locate J M Silk to do a live TV appearance, the BBC video became the video for the song.

U.S.A may have spawned House but it's the UK where it got chart success...

Jack your Body -
*No. 1 MAINSTREAM CHART SUCCESS *

so we must remember this in the future as our country/ experiences gives us some opinions that may vary depending where you are.

Mainstream chart success.

Farley - Love can't turn around - charted

Raze - Jack the groove - charted

Nitro Deluse - this Brutal house - charted

Dhar Braxton - Jump Back - charted

etc etc etc.

Also remember , when it came to Frankie Knuckles:- here in the UK he was probably better known as a producer, so when we talk about him selling (whatever) try and remember that it was his recordings getting him in the spotlight.

daniel

11-05-2003, 12:28 PM

so instead of blaming whitey, we'll just blame the brits.

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-05-2003, 02:23 PM

"do you really not know the answer to your own question" - DANNYBOY
November, 2003

is this legal talk ??

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-05-2003, 02:25 PM

I thought the Brits and Whitey were the same right ... graemlins/cool_shades.gif

And

11-05-2003, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by DJ CHRIS PURTELL:
I thought the Brits and Whitey were the same right ... graemlins/cool_shades.gif I'll refer you to Martin Red's UK Black History Month thread. biggrinangel.gif

daniel

11-05-2003, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by DJ CHRIS PURTELL:
I thought the Brits and Whitey were the same right ... graemlins/cool_shades.gif yes, even the black people in england are whitey.

Martin Red

11-06-2003, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by 6 23:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ CHRIS PURTELL:
I thought the Brits and Whitey were the same right ... graemlins/cool_shades.gif I'll refer you to Martin Red's UK Black History Month thread. biggrinangel.gif [/QUOTE]graemlins/thumbsup.gif

11 pages for your pleasure

Topic: BLACK HISTORY MONTH (UK) - OCTOBER (http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=037867)

Bande-A-Part_NYC

11-06-2003, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ CHRIS PURTELL:
I thought the Brits and Whitey were the same right ... graemlins/cool_shades.gif yes, even the black people in england are whitey. [/QUOTE]HaHaHaHahahahahahaHAHA!

Bande-A-Part_NYC

11-06-2003, 12:49 PM

Whites didn't ruin House music, black sell outs did.

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-06-2003, 02:15 PM

i think the reason why a majority of records on the wall are weak CUZ there is the whole thing going on where if you are a producer no matter how bad of a DJ you are that you get booked all over the world for $$$$$ sooo. Everybody is TRYING to make beats. Should i go any further?

Bande-A-Part_NYC

11-06-2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by DJ CHRIS PURTELL:
i think the reason why a majority of records on the wall are weak CUZ there is the whole thing going on where if you are a producer no matter how bad of a DJ you are that you get booked all over the world for $$$$$ sooo. Everybody is TRYING to make beats. Should i go any further? Yes, please include whites ruining house, and JMJ being the head honcho of the white house community.

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-06-2003, 02:32 PM

oh yea I should have said when white guys started making beats on there computer ;)

King Vitamin

11-07-2003, 04:14 AM

Yes, please include whites ruining house, and JMJ being the head honcho of the white house community.
oh yea I should have said when white guys started making beats on there computernever trust a white man with a moustache and a computer especially when she wears an EXCEPTIONAL pair of tight white jeans. graemlins/acclaim.gif

[ November 07, 2003, 04:45 AM: Message edited by: jmpayne ]

mk7

11-07-2003, 06:03 AM

oh my...

i wonder if the trance scene has this much bitchy name-calling too?

mark

altrrdst8

11-07-2003, 06:28 AM

but white people have been an integral part of electronic music from the outset. Its wholly unfair to paint whiteys part in this as completely exploitive.

JMJ

11-07-2003, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by jmpayne:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Yes, please include whites ruining house, and JMJ being the head honcho of the white house community.
oh yea I should have said when white guys started making beats on there computernever trust a white man with a moustache and a computer especially when she wears an EXCEPTIONAL pair of tight white jeans. graemlins/acclaim.gif [/QUOTE]WHO ARE YOU??.......JMJ

And

11-07-2003, 08:11 AM

graemlins/conf44.gif

[ November 07, 2003, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: 6 23 ]

DJ CHRIS PURTELL

11-07-2003, 12:20 PM

JMJ the white guy computer comment did not have anything to do with or anybody else for the matter just a joke of sorts that might have some true, but could never be proved anyway. As for Band a Part I have the feeling he likes to watch people get rialed up. graemlins/remybussi.gif

King Vitamin

11-07-2003, 12:48 PM

honestly though, i was also just having some fun. no disrespect to JMJ, just having fun thats all. he does the same so i thought i would too.

peace biggrinangel.gif

DaveR

11-07-2003, 02:21 PM

I just gotta bring this over from another thread - seems like it belongs here - I'm surprised how many folks haven't seen this (seeing as it's from 2002) - boy's got skilz !

http://www.dmcworld.com/technics/archive/2002/video/2002dj1-100k.wvx

DR

daniel

11-07-2003, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by DaveR:
I just gotta bring this over from another thread - seems like it belongs here - I'm surprised how many folks haven't seen this (seeing as it's from 2002) - boy's got skilz !

http://www.dmcworld.com/technics/archive/2002/video/2002dj1-100k.wvx

DR this guy won?

DaveR

11-07-2003, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DaveR:
I just gotta bring this over from another thread - seems like it belongs here - I'm surprised how many folks haven't seen this (seeing as it's from 2002) - boy's got skilz !

http://www.dmcworld.com/technics/archive/2002/video/2002dj1-100k.wvx

DR this guy won? [/QUOTE]Are you surprised ?

Woody Rosen

11-07-2003, 02:39 PM

daniel

11-07-2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by DaveR:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DaveR:
I just gotta bring this over from another thread - seems like it belongs here - I'm surprised how many folks haven't seen this (seeing as it's from 2002) - boy's got skilz !

http://www.dmcworld.com/technics/archive/2002/video/2002dj1-100k.wvx

DR this guy won? [/QUOTE]Are you surprised ? [/QUOTE]yeah, this was kinda boring.

kev

11-07-2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DaveR:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DaveR:
I just gotta bring this over from another thread - seems like it belongs here - I'm surprised how many folks haven't seen this (seeing as it's from 2002) - boy's got skilz !

http://www.dmcworld.com/technics/archive/2002/video/2002dj1-100k.wvx

DR this guy won? [/QUOTE]Are you surprised ? [/QUOTE]yeah, this was kinda boring. [/QUOTE]I agree. Dude was putting me to sleep. He's got nothing on Craze IMO.