Pacers Fire Isiah

[mhd]

you knew that shit was coming

[Fletch]

NBA coaching hiring is like a flava of the moment. Unbelievable. Peace.

[richierich]

graemlins/scared.gif Is Byrd in the front office? I don't know just because you were a good player doesn't mean you will be a good coach. Some of those new coaches have never even been an assistant coach.

[Mr 1977]

You knew that Bird wanted Rick Carlisle all the time. Drinks on me if he ISN'T named the new coach of Indiana.

[Sharp Eye Washington]

http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=032987

[Sharp Eye Washington]

http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=032987

[mhd]

Originally posted by Phil Bernard:
http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=032987 you called it!

[Mike Barnes]

Isiah Thomas getting cancelled(fired)at Indiana, Just opens the door for Bob Johnson to truely consider him(Isiah Thomas)as the coach for his Charlotte Franchise in 2004, I've said this months before, But, I strongly feel that Bob Johnson,Ed Tapscott(Executive Vice President of the Charlotte Franchise)should get intouch with Magic(Magic Johnson)about becoming the General Manager of the Charlotte Team, Because Magic knows the game(Of Basketeball)and the League/NBA, And he keeps in touch with the College game also(You can't watch a Major College Tournament without Magic Being There), This is the best time for Bob Johnson and Ed Tapscott to improve there team RIGHT NOW, I feel Magic would definitely take the spot(General Manager)if offered,(On the Low, Let magic Run the player personnel side, Draft picks,Free agents/Jerking cats out of there draft picks, Then, Let Ed Tapscott handle the contract negotations/The Business side, Put Isiah Thomas down as the coach(Because he is a great teacher of the game for young cats and a player's coach who cats/especially young cats will truely respect because he was crazy nice,and from What i heard still is, And he has rings on his fingers(Championship rings/chips), Then, Put Kareem(Kareem Jabbar)down as an Assistant Coach, To help develop the young cats(Especially the big men)and the so-called veterans on the crew, Also, How can anyone playing for an organization with Magic,Kareem,Isiah Thomas being down, Not respect them and not go hard every night(Or at least most of the time), Shit, I feel cats would bumrush the Charlotte Team if they would step to this(Putting Magic Johnson as General Manager, Isiah Thomas as coach, Kareem Jabbar as an Assistant coach), Here are 3 Hall of Famers who are looking to get back in the league/NBA, All 3 of these cats have crazy Juice respect wise in the league/NBA and around the world, If i were Bob Johnson or Ed Tapscott, I would definitely step to Magic,Kareem and Isiah Thomas with offers to join the Charlotte Franchise right about now.
Later
Mike Barnes

P.S. For the cats who don't think that Isiah Thomas has the discipline to run a Pro Crew(Team), Just because Ron,Ron(Ron Artest),was Bugging, On the low, Isiah Thomas plays mind games with cats as far as getting them to play to there full potential and instilling toughness to your team(It's very hard to take it/Win a championship being milk and cookies(Having soft cats on the team), And having Ron Artest go hard at cats like he did this past year, Isiah Thomas only wanted to instill a certain toughness in a very young team(Isiah Thomas learned that from Bobby Knight when he played at Indiana in the late 70's early 80's), That's the reason why Isiah Thomas very rarely said anything to Ron Artest(To bring toughness to your crew you have to have one cat who is buckwild with his, But can play though, and will do anything to win), With Charlotte, Depending on the direction that the organization wants to go, If Isiah Thomas were to get the head coaching job there, Maybe he would not have to go that route(Letting a cat get buckwild on the court)depending on the cats you put down on your crew(Free agents, Draft picks), But Cats have to understand, It's very hard to take it(win a championship)Being milk and cookies(Soft), the Los Angeles Lakers of the early to mid 80' found that shit out going up against the Boston Celtics back then(LOL).

[DLow]

Originally posted by Mike Barnes:
Isiah Thomas getting cancelled(fired)at Indiana, Just opens the door for Bob Johnson to truely consider him(Isiah Thomas)as the coach for his Charlotte Franchise in 2004, I've said this months before, But, I strongly feel that Bob Johnson,Ed Tapscott(Executive Vice President of the Charlotte Franchise)should get intouch with Magic(Magic Johnson)about becoming the General Manager of the Charlotte Team, Because Magic knows the game(Of Basketeball)and the League/NBA, And he keeps in touch with the College game also(You can't watch a Major College Tournament without Magic Being There), This is the best time for Bob Johnson and Ed Tapscott to improve there team RIGHT NOW, I feel Magic would definitely take the spot(General Manager)if offered,(On the Low, Let magic Run the player personnel side, Draft picks,Free agents/Jerking cats out of there draft picks, Then, Let Ed Tapscott handle the contract negotations/The Business side, Put Isiah Thomas down as the coach(Because he is a great teacher of the game for young cats and a player's coach who cats/especially young cats will truely respect because he was crazy nice,and from What i heard still is, And he has rings on his fingers(Championship rings/chips), Then, Put Kareem(Kareem Jabbar)down as an Assistant Coach, To help develop the young cats(Especially the big men)and the so-called veterans on the crew, Also, How can anyone playing for an organization with Magic,Kareem,Isiah Thomas being down, Not respect them and not go hard every night(Or at least most of the time), Shit, I feel cats would bumrush the Charlotte Team if they would step to this(Putting Magic Johnson as General Manager, Isiah Thomas as coach, Kareem Jabbar as an Assistant coach), Here are 3 Hall of Famers who are looking to get back in the league/NBA, All 3 of these cats have crazy Juice respect wise in the league/NBA and around the world, If i were Bob Johnson or Ed Tapscott, I would definitely step to Magic,Kareem and Isiah Thomas with offers to join the Charlotte Franchise right about now.
Later
Mike Barnes

P.S. For the cats who don't think that Isiah Thomas has the discipline to run a Pro Crew(Team), Just because Ron,Ron(Ron Artest),was Bugging, On the low, Isiah Thomas plays mind games with cats as far as getting them to play to there full potential and instilling toughness to your team(It's very hard to take it/Win a championship being milk and cookies(Having soft cats on the team), And having Ron Artest go hard at cats like he did this past year, Isiah Thomas only wanted to instill a certain toughness in a very young team(Isiah Thomas learned that from Bobby Knight when he played at Indiana in the late 70's early 80's), That's the reason why Isiah Thomas very rarely said anything to Ron Artest(To bring toughness to your crew you have to have one cat who is buckwild with his, But can play though, and will do anything to win), With Charlotte, Depending on the direction that the organization wants to go, If Isiah Thomas were to get the head coaching job there, Maybe he would not have to go that route(Letting a cat get buckwild on the court)depending on the cats you put down on your crew(Free agents, Draft picks), But Cats have to understand, It's very hard to take it(win a championship)Being milk and cookies(Soft), the Los Angeles Lakers of the early to mid 80' found that shit out going up against the Boston Celtics back then(LOL). I thought I heard Ron Artest was traded within the past few days. I could be wrong. If he did get traded, it seems to me that someone's trying to clean house...almost as if they don't WANT the type of toughness you discussed.

[Leslie]

"To bring toughness to your crew you have to have one cat who is buckwild with his, But can play though, and will do anything to win)" = Jeremy Shockey of the Giants

I agree.

[Sharp Eye Washington]

I can see Ron Artest being dealt. I know he was one of Zeke's boys & his hard nose play may not fit Carlisle & Bird's scheme. Also Larry Bird was always fond of scrub ass Austin Croshere. Carlisle will find minutes for Austin perhaps at the expense of Artest. If I remember correctly, before Bird quit he (Bird) suggested they (Pacers) sign Austin to a long term deal. That was a smart move ( graemlins/puke.gif )Jermaine O'Neal signed his long term deal only because he thought Zeke would remain the coach. I know he's not going to be a happy camper. Maybe the Knicks can ship Keith Van Horn to the Pacers for O'Neal ( smile.gif The pieces are in place. Let's see what President Larry Legend can produce.

[fred da warrior]

Here's Jermaine's thoughts about the matter....


SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- Jermaine O'Neal would not have re-signed with the Indiana Pacers if he had known they were going to fire Isiah Thomas.

“ I don't know who I would have signed with, but I would not have signed back there. Bottom line. ”
— Jermaine O'Neal
on the firing of Isiah Thomas

"I don't know who I would have signed with, but I would not have signed back there. Bottom line," O'Neal said early Thursday at the Tournament of the Americas, where he is competing for the United States in qualifying for the 2004 Olympics.

Visibly angered and upset by the move to fire Indiana's coach, O'Neal said he'll address the situation with the Pacers' front office next week. He would not answer when asked if he would demand a trade.

"Am I disappointed? Hell, yeah. I'm extremely disappointed for multiple reasons," O'Neal said. "I was told he would be here before I re-signed."

"If your boss told you your ace is going to be there for you if you come back, and once you come back not even a month later he's not there, that hurts. That hurts a lot. He was more than a coach to me. He was like a father."

O'Neal joined the Pacers three years ago after Larry Bird resigned and was replaced by Thomas. Indiana made the playoffs for three straight years but was eliminated in the first round each time.

Bird, who returned to the Pacers last month as their president of basketball operations, fired Thomas on Wednesday and said the team plans to hire Rick Carlisle as its new coach.

O'Neal got the news in a phone call from Thomas.

"It was extremely strange. I was taking a nap and got the phone call and was like, let me sit up for a second, you're kidding me," O'Neal said. "I was extremely excited about coming back into the situation. We have a crew that's been together for a while and is really ready to focus in on trying to get to the NBA Finals. I don't know exactly where my organization is trying to go. I'm kind of dumbfounded right now."

O'Neal said he telephoned Bird and team president Donnie Walsh asking for an explanation, giving no details except to say it was a brief discussion.

He said it was Walsh who assured him during contract negotiations that Thomas would return. O'Neal signed a seven-year, $126 million deal.

"To me, it's mind-blowing that we would do this, and do it 4-5 weeks before the season," O'Neal said. "I'm more hurt than anything."

O'Neal had spoken with Thomas earlier this week in Puerto Rico, where Thomas was attending the Tournament of the Americas.

Thomas checked out of his hotel unexpectedly Tuesday after being summoned back to Indianapolis.

"He didn't really sound upset. I think he's more hurt than anything. He's been trying to scrap up new plays, new ways to get his players motivated," O'Neal said.

O'Neal spoke on the phone with teammates Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender and Jamison Brewer after learning of the firing.

"Everybody's just extremely surprised. We were geared up to go at this real strong. Now we've got to retool, look at a new system," O'Neal said. "I mean, I don't know if we're really trying to win the championship this year."

Bird said he didn't feel comfortable with the Pacers' direction after a second-half swoon that knocked them out of first place in the Eastern Conference. Bird also said there were other problems with Thomas, including a lack of communication this summer.

O'Neal defended Thomas, saying the public never knew that he occasionally slept in his office at Conseco Fieldhouse after staying late to draw up game plans.

"The slump at the end of the season, we were still 16 games over .500. What else do you want?'' O'Neal said. "I thought in this league you're determined on what you do, wins and losses. He's 16 games better than he was the year before, and he's taking one of the youngest teams in the league and making them contenders and giving us confidence to say that we feel we can come out of the East and get to the finals.

"That was our goal, but all of a sudden now we're not really trying to get to the finals. We're trying to get guys together and compete. I didn't come back to Indiana just to compete. I want to win the finals."

O'Neal had a poor game for the U.S. team Wednesday night in a 96-69 victory over Mexico, fouling out in just 12 minutes after scoring 11 points and grabbing seven rebounds.

"I'm continuing to figure it out every single year: Life is a challenge, and the ones that succeed in life are the tough-minded ones that are not willing to accept failure,'' O'Neal said. "And no matter what, at the end of the day whether it's with the Pacers or somewhere else, I'm going to continue to succeed."

[fred da warrior]

Jeremy Shockey of the Giants....

Two touchdowns last year in the regular season and dropped the one that would have took NYG to the SuperBowl.....a little less toughness and a bit more concentration, I think.

[Mike Barnes]

Say Derrick, From what i heard, Ron Artest is still down with Indiana money, Now for how long it's anybody's guess(LOL), Especially with Larry Bird running the yard(Running the Team), And if Larry Bird can get Rick Carlisle(Who may not like Ron Artest's style of play),Well then, You know the time, Say Phil Bernard, I agree with your comment about Larry Bird being on Austin Croshere's joint(Lovemuscle), But, To me, Austin Croshere can play(LOL), The year that Indiana went to the Finals(I think that was in 2000), Austin Croshere was in the last year of his contract and he was rocking(Playing very well), I feel the cat(Austin Croshere)got crazy lazy once he signed the multi-year contract with Indiana that summer of 2000, And just didn't care(I heard he was crazy out of shape once he came back into the Indiana Pacers came in October of 2000 and was not focused and hungry), On the low, Austin Croshere was playing very well against the Lakers in the Finals(To me, He was there best player in the Finals against the Lakers), Hopefully for him, If Rick Carlisle takes the position of head Coach at Indiana, Austin Croshere will go hard from the start(Like he's playing for a new contract), Because Rick Carlisle knows what he can do, Isiah Thomas was more concerned with cats who went hard and do anything to win and earn playing time(Like it should be), Playing cats like Al Harrington,Jonathan Bender, At that Small Foward/Power Forward slot was very hard for Austin Croshere to get any time(Especially when your not concerned with playing for the right reasons/To Win).
Later
Mike Barnes

[The Real Dragonfly Jones]

So Zeke got canned... Hey, whatcha' gonna do?? graemlins/conf44.gif

[fred da warrior]

Originally posted by fred:
Jeremy Shockey of the Giants....

Two touchdowns last year in the regular season and dropped the one that would have took NYG to the SuperBowl.....a little less toughness and a bit more concentration, I think. My bad. I meant NFC Championship game.

[Leslie]

Originally posted by fred:
Jeremy Shockey of the Giants....

Two touchdowns last year in the regular season and dropped the one that would have took NYG to the SuperBowl.....a little less toughness and a bit more concentration, I think. No argument but he brings an attitude that has been lacking for sometime - he gets them charged up and last year was his rookie season.

[Ronnie Ron]

From a Bird's-eye view

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/whitlock/030828.html


By Jason Whitlock
Page 2 columnist


Larry Bird won't be the first team president to try to win a championship
fueled by ego and deception. That doesn't make it right or comforting.
Basketball fans aren't used to seeing Bird as a devious conniver.


But it appears now that Bird can connive with the best of them.


Two egos too many for Indiana.
Bird, the newly installed president of my Indiana Pacers, has earned the
right to own a huge ego, especially in his home state. And it was with that
ego that Bird dumped Indiana coach Isiah Thomas, also a man of considerable
conceit, Wednesday afternoon.


In the process of buffaloing Jermaine O'Neal into re-signing with the Pacers

a month ago, Bird assured O'Neal that Thomas would be his coach. Now, Bird
figures his own status as an NBA legend, along with O'Neal's new $120
million contract spread over seven years, will square things with the star
forward, who views Thomas as a father figure.


"I think (O'Neal) will be disappointed," Bird told an ESPN reporter
Wednesday. "But I also think that he'll sit down and talk to us, and we'll
have a conversation with him about why it was done.''


Translation: "We gave Jermaine his money. He'll shut his mouth and like it
because I'm Larry Bird, the larger-than-life Indiana State, Boston Celtics,
Indiana Pacers legend. And if he doesn't learn to like it, we'll give
Jermaine's minutes to my main man Austin Croshere."


You think that last line is a joke?


In his three years as coach of the Pacers, Bird had two pet projects:
assistant coach Rick Carlisle, and Croshere.


Before walking out on the Pacers after their NBA finals run, Bird told
then-team-president Donnie Walsh two things:


1. Make Carlisle the next coach.


2. Fatten Croshere's contract.


Walsh ignored the Carlisle suggestion and hired Thomas instead. And Walsh
bought into the hype that Croshere is a poor man's Larry Bird and gave him
$51 million over seven years. You could argue that he regrets both
decisions.


There's no arguing that those decisions are the fuel propelling Bird's ego
and deception as it relates to Isiah. Oh yes, it's personal. Bird and Thomas

don't like each other. There is little mutual respect. This is a Chicago
city kid vs. a hick from French Lick. In terms of basketball core values and

culture, this is Palestine vs. Israel, "Hoosiers" vs. "Above the Rim,"
pick-n-roll vs. get-n-go.


Bird and Thomas could never co-exist. Bird couldn't afford to let Thomas
coach another season. The Pacers could be good. Thomas was in the last year
of his contract. If the Pacers won, Thomas could command a fat, long
contract extension. Bird would miss out on his chance to hire Carlisle.


Big Bird's buddy, Rick Carlisle.
Doesn't it all make sense now? Carlisle gets canned in Detroit and decides
to sit out a year and wait patiently for his next NBA opportunity. I'm sure
Bird told him he wouldn't be waiting long. Bird just needed to fix his
O'Neal problem before implementing the plan.


So Bird and Walsh used Thomas. They needed Zeke to re-sign O'Neal.


Now that they have O'Neal, Bird can go about the business of proving that he

was right about Croshere and Carlisle. When Bird took over the Pacers seven
weeks ago, he immediately referred to Croshere as one of the Pacers'
outstanding young players. Never mind that Croshere has been a flop in the
three years since Bird departed. Never mind that the Pacers have shopped
Croshere around the league and found that no GM will touch him or his
$51-million contract. Never mind that Croshere is too slow to guard small
forwards and too weak to bang with the Chris Webber crowd.


Bird blames Thomas for Croshere's failure. Bird believes the right system,
Carlisle's system, will hide Croshere's weaknesses.


Croshere's contract has handcuffed the Pacers, financially. He was the 10th
or 11th man in Thomas' rotation. He isn't good enough to steal minutes from
Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender or Ron Artest.


Somebody is getting traded to make room for Croshere.


I hope Bird is right about Carlisle and Croshere. My gut feeling, though, is

that Bird screwed this up. He should've tolerated Thomas for a season or had

the courage to fire Thomas seven weeks ago.


The Pacers are a young, petulant bunch. They aren't impressed by Bird's
reputation. His rep won't carry any weight when it comes to correcting the
chemistry problems that wrecked the second half of last season. You don't
build winning chemistry by misleading your best player, particularly one
armed with a $120-million contract.


If Thomas is as conniving and ego-driven as Bird -- which I'm sure he is --
then the Pacers will have trouble controlling O'Neal over the next few
years. I wouldn't want to be the Three Amigos -- Bird, Carlisle and Croshere

-- when O'Neal turns to Isiah, his father figure, for advice during key
stretches of the season.

[Fletch]

Sorry, Mike Barnes, but I have to disagree about Magic being in the front office at Charlotte. I know he's Magic, but I think he (and Mike) have an impatient edge that could prevent young, expansion teams from developing slowly into a contender. (See Mike's tenure with the Wiz's and see Magic's coaching the Lakers in the early 90s).

I want to see Ron Artest with Rick Carlisle. I really want to see that one.

Sorry, y'all, but Jeremy Shockey is a HIGHLY overrated tight end. His smack is a little over his game. Wait 'till his former Miami mate Kellen Winslow comes to the show. Kellen will revolutionize the position like his pops! Peace.

[fred da warrior]

Sorry, y'all, but Jeremy Shockey is a HIGHLY overrated tight end. His smack is a little over his game. Wait 'till his former Miami mate Kellen Winslow comes to the show. Kellen will revolutionize the position like his pops! Peace. [/QB][/QUOTE]\


I agree. Todd Heap (Baltimore) is the best young TE on the east coast.

[mhd]

"Isiah Thomas only wanted to instill a certain toughness in a very young team(Isiah Thomas learned that from Bobby Knight when he played at Indiana in the late 70's early 80's"

yo mike, great post, let me just add that Isiah learned a little bit about toughness growing up on the west side of chicago, long before he met bobby knight!

[Mike Barnes]

Say einnod23, I respect your comments and views on the subject of Magic becoming General Manager of the Charlotte Franchise, And i agree that Magic was very impatient with the Lakers when he coached them in 1993/94, I felt that Magic was impatient with the Lakers back then because he felt that they still had a very good team, And also, Magic was still in very good shape(And Truley wanted to play,Rather than Coach), And being a fierce competitor like he is, Felt that even though he could not physically play, he could mentally structure and develop cats on the team(Lakers)via the sidelines(coaching), But, I'm sure if Magic was asked if he made mistakes, he would most definitely say yes in reference to being able to adapt to todays players, Who have very little since of Passion/Love for the game,Fundementals, Being Hungry,Developing on your on during the summertime,Taking care of your body year round,Doing whatever it takes to win, I felt Magic came in the head coaching Position feeling that he could inflict his will as an player on the Lakers at that time, Because he is not playind and directing cats on what spots to go to on the floor,Setting picks,helping out on Defense,Filling the lanes on a fast break,Etc, Cats on the lakers did not know how to do these Basic things and along with not caring about winning(Just getting the Stacks/Money), magic was bugging to the highest order(LOL), magic could not inforce his will on the Lakers back then, And Magic never coached before so he did not know anything about adapting to your personnel, But, people cahnge through the years, and i feel Magic, If giving the opportuinity would make an Excellent General Manager because he has learned to be patient with todays players seeing them through the years when he first took the job as head coach, Cats like Larry Brown,Lenny Wilkins,Rudy Tomjanovich, Are Pure old School, But, They knew in order to develop todays players you have to adapt and change your style(Look at all of the dumb shit Larry Brown has taken from Allan Iverson the last 6 years, You Know Larry Brown had to change his ways to make that relaionship work), But I feel Magic would see the bigger picture with todays players and come at that with more support and encouragment along with the knowledge of the game and development part to.
Later
Mike Barnes

[Leslie]

Highley overrated - we'll see....why do we alwasy assume just cause someone's Dad was of a certain caliber that the kid will automatically pick up where he left off - lets see him get into the league before we start writing checks one's ass can't cash.....

[Mike Barnes]

I just wanted to add that when i made the comment, 'Instilling toughness into a team', You can do that two ways, Mentally and physically, Alot of cats from the 60's,70's,Early 80's, Were lucky enough to get the proper coaching and guidance to develop in Basketball back then, And along with the fundemental training that cats would do on there own(Love for the Game), And a great hunger to be the best(Around your neighborhood,In the city you live in or just rocking anyone who you may play against), Cats had that inner desire to do whatever it took to win and succeed in Basketball and hopefully in life, Now the mental toughness comes from your upbringing in reference to overcoming very hard obstacles in your life(Family having very little money, Family Structure is not Solid, No 2 parent family,Neighborhood is buckwild ),Living through conditions like those and others will Hopefully give a cat the resilency to come through no matter what happens in your life(Good or bad), Sometimes cats can't make it(Teddy Grubbs from Chicago is one who comes to mind), While others come off hard(Isiah Thomas,Mark Aguairre,Bernard King,David Thompson,Allan Iverson,etc), When you combine the mental toughness that's instilled in a cat from the conditions that he has to face in his life, and overcoming those condtions(Making him or her stronger), Along with being a very good athlete, And add a commitment to listen and respect older cats who give you much needed advice and encouragment and help you develop as a athlete, Shit, You have a Hall of Famer in the makings(LOL), The Physical toughness comes from being an imtimidator like say Rick Mahorn(Cats are unaware that Rick Mahorn used to be nice with the Washington Bullets in the early 80's/And he did much work at Hampton Institute in Virginia in the mid to late 70's),Jeff Ruland,Gus Johnson(Honeycomb from the Baltimore Bullets days in the 70's/RIP),Bill Laimbeer,Lonnie Shelton But my alltime favorite 'Make a MF Fess',(Imtimiditing presence)cat is Maurice Lucas, From his days at Marquette in the early 70's and the Portland Trailblazers in the mid to late 70's, Cats like these and others inforced there will physically on you and that shit(Playing very physical)carries on to the rest of the cats on your crew, Say Fred, You mentioned that Jeremey Shockey dropped a touchdown pass that would ahve sent the giants to the Superbowl, I would like to know your thoughts on the Giants Defense, Which to me cancelled the Giants chances of winning that game against San Francisco, To me, One play does not win or lose a game(Cats came hard at Fred Brown from Georgetown in the Championship game against North Carolina, But on the low, If Matt Doherty would have made that Freethrow(One and One)Maybe Fred Brown would not have had the ball in his hands at that time in the game(Were was Eric Floyd should be the question),Also, Cats came hard at Chris Webber in the 1993 NCAA Championship game against North Carolina when he got the rebound and Walked(Traveled), But the ref did not make the call(The ref was right on the play and that shit was crazy Obivious), Then Chris Webber called that timeout, On the low, a cat from the Michigan Bench named Michael Talley yelled to Chris Webber to call a timeout, but cats blame Chris Webber for the lost(LOL), Quiet as its kept, The question should be, Why was Jalen Rose hiding from the ball once Chrs Webber got the Rebound from the missed foulshot(By Pat Sullivan from North Carolina), And, Steve Fisher should have been greatly critized for not letting his crew know that they do not have any timeouts left(LOL), I've seen interviews with Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, And Chris Webber, a few weeks after the game, Were they mentioned that Steve Fisher was casually saying, guys we don't have anytime outs left(LOL), This game(NCAA Championship)is for all the chips(NCAA title), And your coach is casually saying something as important as this(No timeouts), Shit, a Good coach is supposed to be screaming that shit at his team(We have know timeouts)like Lou Gossett was screaming in Richard Gere's fronts(Face)At that bootcamp in Officer and a Gentleman, But to me, One play does not make a vitory or defeat, There are always other plays(good or bad)that lead up to the cat who is the hero or the goat that cats do not focus on(Like Charles Barkley Hiding from the ball in the game 6 against Chicago in the 4th Quarter, But cats come hard at Dan Marjele for shooting an airball in the heat(Important time of the game), Shit at least Dan Marjele shot it(LOL).
Later
Mike Barnes

[mhd]

damn, mike, that was the deepest post you ever made. you got science, money. your formula for transferring hardship into success is brilliant. i agree totally