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socratez
12-10-2003, 04:58 PM
Im thinking about buying the Yamaha rs7000, but i havent heard much about it. Because it has only got 1 stereo output, im doubting that it will be capable of producing studioquality drum tracks.
I want to use the rs mainly for beats.

Is there anyone who has got some experience with the RS??

DJ George Bates
12-10-2003, 06:15 PM
I bought it a month ago... it's dope but I haven't used it very much... I'm still trying to figure it out.... smile.gif

alex zen
12-10-2003, 06:24 PM
some reviews http://www.sonicstate.com/synth_reviews/_inc/user_comments.cfm?id=1211&print=1

socratez
12-10-2003, 06:42 PM
The reviews look good.

I want to use the RS (if it suits my needs) for beats. I want to make my beats in the rs,,, and do the music and other sounds in logic, and run the RS as midislave to LOgic. ANd later on, i want to make an audio track of the beats. But i dont know if the RS is powerfull enough,,, soundwise,,, to carry the beats on its own without expensive mixing consoles and stuff.

Bold Soul
12-10-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by socratez:
The reviews look good.

I want to use the RS (if it suits my needs) for beats. I want to make my beats in the rs,,, and do the music and other sounds in logic, and run the RS as midislave to LOgic. ANd later on, i want to make an audio track of the beats. But i dont know if the RS is powerfull enough,,, soundwise,,, to carry the beats on its own without expensive mixing consoles and stuff. What type of audio interface are you going out on the RS to?

socratez
12-10-2003, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by socratez:
The reviews look good.

I want to use the RS (if it suits my needs) for beats. I want to make my beats in the rs,,, and do the music and other sounds in logic, and run the RS as midislave to LOgic. ANd later on, i want to make an audio track of the beats. But i dont know if the RS is powerfull enough,,, soundwise,,, to carry the beats on its own without expensive mixing consoles and stuff. What type of audio interface are you going out on the RS to? </font>[/QUOTE]To my pc/soundcard,, a M-audio. Mixing the beats with the sounds will take place on my pc.

Bold Soul
12-10-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by socratez:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by socratez:
The reviews look good.

I want to use the RS (if it suits my needs) for beats. I want to make my beats in the rs,,, and do the music and other sounds in logic, and run the RS as midislave to LOgic. ANd later on, i want to make an audio track of the beats. But i dont know if the RS is powerfull enough,,, soundwise,,, to carry the beats on its own without expensive mixing consoles and stuff. What type of audio interface are you going out on the RS to? </font>[/QUOTE]To my pc/soundcard,, a M-audio. Mixing the beats with the sounds will take place on my pc. </font>[/QUOTE]Can you get a clean feed from the RS to your M-Audio? The sound from the RS will just as good as sound from any other source - I'm assuming you have 1/4" a stereo feed.

What types of inputs do you have on your soundcard, and what sample rates are supported?

socratez
12-10-2003, 09:57 PM
My soundcard is 24/96 smile.gif

I think i have SPDIF,


I just read the RS7000 has 24 bit outputs. I dont know if the RS7000 has the same 32 bits floating point structure as LOgic has,,, if so, ill be fine..

IF not, ill save some money, make a couple of moves and buy a MPC4000

Bold Soul
12-10-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by socratez:
My soundcard is 24/96 smile.gif

I think i have SPDIF,


I just read the RS7000 has 24 bit outputs. I dont know if the RS7000 has the same 32 bits floating point structure as LOgic has,,, if so, ill be fine..

IF not, ill save some money, make a couple of moves and buy a MPC4000 The MPC is the holy grail, but I really can't see how those extra bits are doing anything else but adding storage requirements. And the 32 bit floating point structure in Logic is related to processing, not audio. Those 24 bits in the outputs of the RS are pretty nice.

socratez
12-10-2003, 10:10 PM
Yeah the MPC is the shizzle, but for the price the RS should be nice to. I might even be able to buy some cheap ass yamaha fm-synths.

Are you into producing to??

[ December 10, 2003, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: socratez ]

alex zen
12-10-2003, 10:13 PM
mpc's strongest points are the sequencer and the pads. if you have your heart set on logic, why not get a mp7 and use a soft sampler?

Bold Soul
12-10-2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by socratez:
Yeah the MPC is the shizzle, but for the price the RS should be nice to. I might even be able to buy some cheap ass yamaha fm-synths.

Are you into producing to?? Yep.

socratez
12-10-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
mpc's strongest points are the sequencer and the pads. if you have your heart set on logic, why not get a mp7 and use a soft sampler? I only want to use Logic for audio, and some composing chord changes and stuff like that. For the rest i want to have an intuitive hardware interface because:
A They are more fun
B The are less time consuming (pressing a button is faster then draggin a mouse)
C PC's are source of frustration for me and i dont want the frustration have an influence on my music.
D The interface is based on stepwrite sequencing, i like stepsequencing.

But the downside of it all are the $$$$$$$$$$$$

socratez
12-10-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
mpc's strongest points are the sequencer and the pads. if you have your heart set on logic, why not get a mp7 and use a soft sampler? Whats a MP7??

And what equipment yall using??

Bold Soul
12-10-2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
mpc's strongest points are the sequencer and the pads. if you have your heart set on logic, why not get a mp7 and use a soft sampler? Or Reason 2.5, with the Reload Akai 1000/3000 sample converter.

MAN OH MAN! It's totally bananas in the Lab. I've abandoned SampleTank and resisted procuring MOTU's Mach 5 because I have a kick-ass rack with DP4, Rewire, OS X's Audio Units...man oh man oh man...

alex zen
12-10-2003, 10:28 PM
my fault i meant mpd16 http://www.akaipro.com/int/mpd16/images/mpd16top_b_s.jpg http://www.akaipro.com/us/mpd16.html

i hear you on the hardware issue because i'm the same way.

alex zen
12-10-2003, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
mpc's strongest points are the sequencer and the pads. if you have your heart set on logic, why not get a mp7 and use a soft sampler? Or Reason 2.5, with the Reload Akai 1000/3000 sample converter.

MAN OH MAN! It's totally bananas in the Lab. I've abandoned SampleTank and resisted procuring MOTU's Mach 5 because I have a kick-ass rack with DP4, Rewire, OS X's Audio Units...man oh man oh man... </font>[/QUOTE]sounds like a hell of a lot of fun.

socratez
12-10-2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
mpc's strongest points are the sequencer and the pads. if you have your heart set on logic, why not get a mp7 and use a soft sampler? Or Reason 2.5, with the Reload Akai 1000/3000 sample converter.

MAN OH MAN! It's totally bananas in the Lab. I've abandoned SampleTank and resisted procuring MOTU's Mach 5 because I have a kick-ass rack with DP4, Rewire, OS X's Audio Units...man oh man oh man... </font>[/QUOTE]HOw is the MAch-5??
Is it possible to assign samples to different a outputs&gt;&gt;???

IMO thats the biggest problem with softsynths,,, the lack of possibilities of assigning samples to different tracks/busses/ or outputs for further processing.

Bold Soul
12-10-2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by socratez:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Danny Gardner:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
mpc's strongest points are the sequencer and the pads. if you have your heart set on logic, why not get a mp7 and use a soft sampler? Or Reason 2.5, with the Reload Akai 1000/3000 sample converter.

MAN OH MAN! It's totally bananas in the Lab. I've abandoned SampleTank and resisted procuring MOTU's Mach 5 because I have a kick-ass rack with DP4, Rewire, OS X's Audio Units...man oh man oh man... </font>[/QUOTE]HOw is the MAch-5??
Is it possible to assign samples to different a outputs&gt;&gt;???

IMO thats the biggest problem with softsynths,,, the lack of possibilities of assigning samples to different tracks/busses/ or outputs for further processing. </font>[/QUOTE]With Reason, you can run outs to any number of outputs, busses, etc. via Logic's mixer. With Mach 5 and SampleTank, you can take instances of the sampler and route them same as hardware. It's really sweet...but Reason is sweeter.

And I hear what you're saying about hardware, mice, etc., etc...which is why I use one of DEZE!

http://www.radikaltechnologies.com/Products/SAC-2_2/sac22ored.jpg

alex zen
12-10-2003, 10:48 PM
i know a guy who uses 8 out usb cards x 4 (32 out). he goes from logic --&gt; desk --&gt; pro tools. it's over kill like a mother but i sure is useful.

edit: i'll never be a grammer champion graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

[ December 10, 2003, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: sex, drugs, and alex zen ]

Bold Soul
12-10-2003, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
i know a guy who uses 8 out usb cards x 4 (32 out). he goes from logic --&gt; desk --&gt; pro tools. it's over kill like a mother but i sure is useful.

edit: i'll never be a grammer champion graemlins/jpshakehead.gif Just be a music champion. :D

And that config seems really cumbersome. Were it me, I would use a 2408. MOTU provides some serious i/o configurations in their hardware.

[ December 10, 2003, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: Danny Gardner ]

Specter
12-11-2003, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by sex, drugs, and alex zen:
my fault i meant mpd16 http://www.akaipro.com/int/mpd16/images/mpd16top_b_s.jpg http://www.akaipro.com/us/mpd16.html

i hear you on the hardware issue because i'm the same way. Dam i didnt knew this came in colors. I got the grey one , the unit is pretty nice.