Pre Disco

[djezmike]

What are some of the songs that were hits in the nightclubs between 1970-1975. I have read about "The Loft", "The Gallery" " Better Days" and of Dj's as Nicky Siano, Walter Gibbons,David Mancuso and many others.Does anyone of some of their favorite songs they would play, or what was popular and the clubs they played in? Thanks hail.gif

[MC]

I wanna know, too..


MJC
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[djezmike]

sup Mikee Man My Cubs got me all tense..

[Soleful]

Why not go through all those mixes in the archives and have a listen to the earlier ones.

[John Hall]

Originally posted by OneLove:
Why not go through all those mixes in the archives and have a listen to the earlier ones. Hi OneLove
I've done some digging there and did not see much
of anything from the 70's, let alone the EARLY 70's.

That time-frame appears to be poorly represented in
the world of mix tapes.

Discotiser from 78 is very interesting.
Have you seen any mixes on the archives that are
earlier than that?

[John Hall]

Originally posted by djezmike:
What are some of the songs that were hits in the nightclubs between 1970-1975. I have read about "The Loft", "The Gallery" " Better Days" and of Dj's as Nicky Siano, Walter Gibbons,David Mancuso and many others.Does anyone of some of their favorite songs they would play, or what was popular and the clubs they played in? Thanks hail.gif In the earliest days of "disco" and proto-disco,
anything that was danceable was played, in the sense
that there was even more eclecticism than later.

If you look at a playlist of the top 100 Pop, Rock
and Soul/R&B songs of a given year from the late
60's through the early 70's, you'll find the songs
that were played by the early DJ's.

The real question is, what did they play at that time
that was "UNDERGROUND", ie, NOT on the charts and
not "popular".
THAT's the stuff I want to know about, since I've
heard and grew up on all the obvious stuff that can
be danced to.

Here's an url for a google search I did of 1970's
popular choons from WABC, a nyc top-40 radio station
I grew up to:

http://snurl.com/2ker

Here's the page I came up with, a 1970 WABC survey:


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From: Ken Williamson (kentaur@***.com)
Subject: WABC, New York Survey/ 3 November 1970
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Date: 2000-10-31 08:54:53 PST

WABC Music Power Survey for Week of 3 November 1970

TW LW
1. I’ll Be There - The Jackson 5 (Motown) *5 weeks #1* 1
2. We’ve Only Just Begun - The Carpenters (A&M) 2
3. Fire and Rain - James Taylor (Warner Brothers) 5
4. Indiana Wants Me - R. Dean Taylor (Rare Earth) 4
5. All Right Now - Free (A&M) 6
6. Cracklin’ Rosie - Neil Diamond (Uni) 3
7. It Don’t Matter to Me - Bread (Elektra) 14
8. Green-Eyed Lady - Sugarloaf (Liberty) 15
9. Somebody’s Been Sleeping -
100 Proof (Aged in Soul) (Hot Wax) 10
10. 5-10-15-20 (25-30 Years of Love) - The Presidents (Sussex) 8
11. I Think I Love You - The Partridge Family (Bell) 25
12. Express Yourself - Charles Wright &
the Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band (Warner Brothers) 12
13. Still Water (Love) - The Four Tops (Motown) 9
14. Candida - Dawn (Bell) 7
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15. Lola - The Kinks (Reprise) 13
16. Super Bad, Part 1 & Part 2 - James Brown (King) 16
17. See Me, Feel Me - The Who (Decca) 23
18. Look What They’ve Done to My Song Ma -
The New Seekers (Elektra) 11
19. Montego Bay - Bobby Bloom (L&R) 24
20. Heaven Help Us All - Stevie Wonder (Tamla) 30
21. Yellow River - Christie (Epic) --
25. The Tears of a Clown -
Smokey Robinson & the Miracles (Tamla) --
34. Cry Me a River - Joe Cocker (A&M) 47
40. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? -
Chicago (Columbia) --
50. Only Love Can Break Your Heart - Neil Young (Reprise) HP
68. After Midnight - Eric Clapton (Atco) --

Hot Prospects:
Don’t Try to Lay No Boogie Woogie On the King of Rock & Roll
- Crow (Amaret)
No Matter What - Badfinger (Apple)
Share the Land - The Guess Who (RCA)
Be My Baby - Andy Kim (Steed)

Album Cuts:
It’s Up to You - The Moody Blues (Threshold)
Black Magic Woman/Gypsy Queen - Santana (Columbia)
Carol - The Rolling Stones (London)
Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin (Atlantic)
Bron-y-aur Stomp - Led Zeppelin (Atlantic)

Action Albums:
After the Gold Rush - Neil Young (Reprise)
Abraxas - Santana (Columbia)
Sweet Baby James - James Taylor (Warner Brothers)
Led Zeppelin III - Led Zeppelin (Atlantic)
“Get Yer Ya-Ya’s Out!” - The Rolling Stones (London)
A Question of Balance - The Moody Blues (Threshold)
Mad Dogs and Englishmen - Joe Cocker (A&M)
Tommy - The Who (Decca)
The Jackson 5 Third Album - The Jackson 5 (Motown)

All American of the Week:
Dan Ingram - 2:00-6:00 PM, Monday - Saturday


SPECIAL NOTE: “You Don’t Have to Say You Love Me” by Elvis
Presley (RCA) is listed on the printed survey, between between
#34 ("Cry Me a River") and #40 ("Does Anybody Really Know What
Time It Is?"). It does not receive airplay this week, nor is it
on the in-house playlist, even though it was #17 last week and
moves into the Top 14 next week.

©2003 Google


I don't remember the name and artist for everything
I've heard in my life, but I'm sure you can spot
material that was GOOD and DANCEABLE on this list,
though not a lot on this particular list.
The great stuff that's got a good dance beat
are songs were played by DJs, including NYC jocks of course.
Most early jocks were playing LOTS OF SOUL AND FUNK before DISCO became a unique, specialized sound.
What I'd really like to see
is the playlists for the NYC soul stations, which
would have tons of DJ material that never cracked
the pop charts.

Somewhere out there are ancient DJ playlists too.
Google is your friend.
:D

[MC]

A good example would be the DJ Discotizer mix, but no one can seem to ID the tracks. So that brings up back to Mike's original query, which was songs were played?

Listen to DJ Discotizer 1970's (http://deephousepage.com/discotizer1.ram)

Jam this mix Mike it's dope.

[MC]

Nice list there John. Can you maybe ID the Discotizer mix or at least give it a try?


MJC
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[John Hall]

Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
A good example would be the DJ Discotizer mix, but no one can seem to ID the tracks. So that brings up back to Mike's original query, which was songs were played?

Listen to DJ Discotizer 1970's (http://deephousepage.com/discotizer1.ram)

Jam this mix Mike it's dope. Hi Michael,
Excellent mix, one of my favorites so far, even
though I've only begun to dig on the archives

I'm STILL WAITING for someone to help me identify
the first cut on that mix...it's a must-own!!!
This mix has been discussed repeatedly on this board
and no one seems to know what that first track is.

In answer to your real question, I would have
to compile a list of everything from the
R&B/Soul
Soul/Funk
Rock
charts of the late 60's and early 70's, weed out
the horrible/no-staying-power/non-classic crap,
weed out the slow ballads and non-danceable stuff,
and we'd wind up with a list that would be pretty
interesting.
We could show that list to David Mancuso and others
from my age group, like Nicky Siano and Frankie Knuckles, plus any English DJs our age, and we'd
have the beginnings of the answer.
That's a lot of work.
The REAL work is to get these other old-timers to
dig up a list of jams that were NOT pop/radio hits,
ie the real underground shit.
Here's one for ya:

Blues Magoos: "Never Goin' Back to Georgia"

Here's another one for ya:

Music From Lil Brown: "Paint It Black"

(are you listening Jolyon? ;) )

[Jolyon]

I'm listening... ;)

This list has been on the internet for ages...but is still the best. Bill B. is a real expert on this area...he has loads more outside this top 100...

I'll Bake Me a Man - Barbara Acklin (Brunswick, 1973)
If You Love Me Like You Say You Love Me - Betty Wright (Alston, 1972)
Black Skin Blue Eyed Boys - Equals (Shout, 1972)
Rain - Dorothy Morrison (Elektra, 1971)
Fencewalk - Mandrill (Polydor, 1973)
Street Dance/Njia (Nija) Walk (Street walk) - The Fatback Band (Perception, 1973)
Sultana/Rain 2000 - Titanic (Epic, 1972/1973)
Dust Yourself Off and Try It Again - Beautiful Zion Choir (Myrrh, 1973)
You're the One - Little Sister (Stone Flower, 1970)
Music For Gong Gong - Osibisa (Decca, 1971)
I Got It - Gloria Spencer (Jay Walking, 1971)
Girl You Need a Change of Mind/Date With the Rain - Eddie Kendricks (Tamla, 1972)
You Sure Know How To Love Your Man - Willie Hutch (Motown, 1974)
Think (About It) - Lyn Collins (People, 1972)
I Like What I Like - Everyday People (Paramount, 1972)
Twenty-Five Miles/Running Back and Forth - Edwin Starr (Gordy, 1969)
Feel the Need in Me - Detroit Emeralds (Westbound, 1972)
Giving Up - Zulema (Sussex, 1973)
Doing it to Death - Fred Wesley & The J.B.'s (People, 1973)
Melting Pot - Boris Gardiner Happening (Dynamic, 1973)
Beggin' - Timebox (Deram, 1968)
Woman/Wild Safari - Barrabas (RCA, 1973)
The Bottle - Gil Scott-Heron (Strata-East, 1974)/Brother to Brother (Turbo, 1974)
I Can Understand It - The New Birth (RCA, 1973)/Valentinos (Atlantic, 1973)/Kokomo (Columbia, 1975)
Pursuit of the PimpMobile - Isaac Hayes (Enterprise, 1974)
Take Off Your Make-up - Lamont Dozier (ABC, 1973)
Love and Happiness - Al Green (Hi, 1972)
Main Line - Ashford & Simpson (Warner Bros., 1974)
Armed and Extremely Dangerous/Smarty Pants - First Choice (Philly Groove, 1973)
Zing Went the Strings of My Heart - The Trammps (Buddah, 1972)
Who is He And What is He to You - Creative Source (Sussex, 1974)
Life and Death in G & A - Abaco Dream (A&M, 1969)
Half a Cup - Reggie Gardner (ABC, 1974)
We the People - Soul Searchers (Sussex, 1972)
Crazy 'Bout My Baby - Bonnie Bramlett (Columbia, 1973)
Getting Together - Brothers Guiding Light Featuring David (Mercury, 1973)
Sweet Charlie Babe/Time - Jackie Moore (Atlantic, 1973)
What Goes Around (Comes Around) - Black Ivory (Kwanza, 1974)
Soul Makossa - Manu Dibango (Atlantic, 1973)
Good Things Don't Last Forever - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette, 1974)
Koke - Tribe (ABC, 1973)
Pull Yourself Together - Buddy Miles (Columbia, 1974)
Papa Was a Rollin' Stone - The Temptations (Gordy, 1972)
Under the Influence of Love - Love Unlimited (20th Century, 1973)
Little Bit of Love - Brenda & The Tabulations (Epic, 1972)
And You Call That Love - Vernon Burch (75)
Ask Me - Ecstacy, Passion & Pain (74)
Brazil - Ritchie Family (75)
Breaking Out All Over - Lamont Dozier (73)
Brother's Gonna Work It Out - Willie Hutch (73)
Call Me Your Anything Man - Bobby Moore (75)
Casanova Brown - Gloria Gaynor (75)
Change With The Times - Van McCoy (75)
Checkmate - Barrabas (75)
City Country City - War (72)
Crystal World - Crystal Grass (75)
Dance And Hum Along - Jackson 5 (73)
Do It Anyway You Wanna - People's Choice (75)
Do The Bus Stop - Fatback Band (75)
Eleanor Rigby - Wing & A Prayer (75)
Erucu - Jermaine Jackson (Instr.) (75)
Expansions - Lonnie Liston Smith (75)
Face The Music - Dynamic Superiors (75)
Foot Stompin' Music - Bohannon (75)
Free Man - South Shore Commission (75)
Give It Up Or Turn It Loose - James Brown (69)
Give Me Your Love - Sisters Love (73)
Got To Get A Knutt - New Birth (73)
Helplessly - Moment Of Truth (75)
Hi-Jack - Herbie Mann (75)
I Can Understand It - Bobby Womack (72); he also played
I'll Do Anything For You - Barry White (75)
I'm In Heaven - Touch Of Class (75)
It Only Takes A Minute - Tavares (75)
It's Just Begun - Jimmy Castor Bunch (72)
Law Of The Land - Undisputed Truth (73)
Look Me Up - Blue Magic (73)
Love & Happiness - First Choice (73)
Love Don't You Go Through No Changes On Me - Sister Sledge (74)
Love Is The Message - MFSB (74)
Make Me Believe In You - Patti Jo (75)
Mellow Blow - Barrabas (75)
Melting Pot - Booker T. & MGs (71)
Messin' With My Mind - Labelle (75)
Mirrors Of My Mind - Jackson 5 (74)
Mister Magic - Grover Washington, Jr. (75)
Move Me No Mountain - Love Unlimited (74)
Peace Pipe - B.T. Express (75)
Peanut Vendor - Ritchie Family (75)
Put The Music Where Your Mouth Is - Olympic Runners (74)
Rock Steady - Aretha Franklin (71)
Salsoul Rainbow - Salsoul Orchestra (75)
Save Me - Silver Convention (75)
Somebody's Gotta Go - Mike & Bill (75)
Sugar Pie Guy - Joneses (74)
The Family Tree - Family Tree (75)
The Player - First Choice (74)
Walk On By - Gloria Gaynor (75)
Waterbed - LTG Exchange (74)
Corazon - LTG Exchange (7x)
What Can I Do For You - Labelle (75)
Where Do I Go From Here - Supremes (75)
Cymande - Bra

[MC]

John Hall,

Dude that first track is superb... that sound is soothing with those horns, and that bassline. Those background lyrics "Tell me, Tell me when you're coming home" make the song complete. BTW what's the second song, they say "The beat goes on, the beat goes on and on, Sweet music (Do it!)", which "And the beat goes on is this one"?

[ October 05, 2003, 08:28 AM: Message edited by: Michael J. Carmona ]

[MC]

Can anyone ID the track at the 11:22 mark? http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif

[ladyboygrimsby]

I've done quite a bit of digging on this front (including the British Library and the New York Performing Arts Library) and unearthed quite a lot of records. I found them in playlists, charts etc.

Here's a few:
Rockin' Horse - Love Do Me Right
John Lennon - What You Got
Apatchi Band - Issmak
Marsha Hunt's 22 - Oh No Not The Beast Day
Osibisa - Music For Gong Gong
Brooklyn People - Brooklyn Express
Chakachas - Africa Yama
Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose - Got To Testify
Wilson Pickett - Don't Knock My Love (Pt. 2)
Jackson 5 - I Am Love
El Bimbo - Bimbo Jet
Exectuve Suite - You Believed In Me
Al Foster Band - Night Of The Wolf
Ground Hog - Bumping
Blood Hollins - How Have You Been
Hook - Hesitation
Etta James - Out On The Streets Again
Tamiko Jones - Touch Me Baby
James Last - Summertime
LTG Exchange - Waterbed
Major Harris - Each Morning I Wake Up
Buddy Miles - Pull Yourself Together
The Mission - Fear No Evil
Modulations - Can't Fight Your Love
Timebox - Beggin'
Mongo Santamaria - Lady Marmalade
Tom Scott & LA Express - Tom Cat
Sons Of Robin Stone - Got To Get Back To You
Spaghetti Head - Big Noise From Winnetka
Titanic - Sultana/Rain 2000/Santa Fe
Margo Thunder - Expressway To Your Heart
Ben Vereen - Stop Your Half Steppin' Mama
Soul Searchers - We The People
Bobby Wilson - Deeper & Deeper
Wisdom - Nefertiti
Zulema - Wanna Be Where You Are

There are more. I'll type them in when I can remember

[John Hall]

Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
John Hall,

Dude that first track is superb... that sound is soothing with those horns, and that bassline. Those background lyrics "Tell me, Tell me when you're coming home" make the song complete. BTW what's the second song, they say "The beat goes on, the beat goes on and on, Sweet music (Do it!)", which "And the beat goes on is this one"? Ripple, THE BEAT GOES ON, originally on a U.S.
Salsoul 12", included in vairous legit CD re-issues/
compilations of Salsoul material.
From my repeated study of this, it sounds like the
12" version is really just an extended edit that
repeats the song 2 times.

[John Hall]

Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
Can anyone ID the track at the 11:22 mark? http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif That's DISCO DANCE by MICHELE, IIRC, an early
Tom Moulton extended remix on WEST END RECORDS...
amazing shit...discotizer is consistently working
two copies on a lot of the portions of this mix.

I THINK west end re-issued that one recently,
and I'm sure they reissued it in the 80's too.

I'm gonna be late for breakfast over at the B&H
diner on 2nd ave and 7th st.
I'll be back...this is one of the few times
that NYers and Brits can "chat" in "real time"
on this board. :D

[Jolyon]

Who is Discotiser - and is it really a mix from the 1970s?

[MC]

Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
Can anyone ID the track at the 11:22 mark? http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif That's DISCO DANCE by MICHELE, IIRC, an early
Tom Moulton extended remix on WEST END RECORDS...
amazing shit...discotizer is consistently working
two copies on a lot of the portions of this mix.

I THINK west end re-issued that one recently,
and I'm sure they reissued it in the 80's too.

I'm gonna be late for breakfast over at the B&H
diner on 2nd ave and 7th st.
I'll be back...this is one of the few times
that NYers and Brits can "chat" in "real time"
on this board. :D </font>[/QUOTE]That's for that ID, man!!! BTW I'm from Texas.... not NY.


MJC
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[MC]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
Who is Discotiser - and is it really a mix from the 1970s? Dude from what I've read on previous post concerning this mix. DJ Discotizer doesn't even exist, but maybe someone can answer your question with more details (If not look in the archives, this mix has been brought up more than 10 times) BUT what I do know is the mix is SMOKIN!!!!

[greg wilson]

The first year-end Billboard New York Disco chart was from 1974. It's listed in alphabetical order. The 1975 chart is in order of popularity.

TOP 50 DISCO HITS OF '74
(New York City)
(In Alphabetical Order)

1 ASK ME - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette)
2 BOOGIE DOWN - Eddie Kendricks (Tamla LP version)
3 CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE, BABE - Barry White (20th Century Fox--vocal & inst.)
4 DANCE MASTER - Willie Henderson (Playboy -Part 1 & 2)
5 DOCTOR'S ORDERS - Carol Douglas (Midland Intl)
6 DO IT (TIL YOU'RE SATISFIED) - B.T. Express (Scepter LP only)
7 DREAM WORLD - Don Downing (Scepter Disco mix)
8 EVERLASTING LOVE - Carl Carlton (Backbeat)
9 EXPRESS - B.T. Express (Scepter LP only)
10 GOOD THINGS DON'T LAST FOREVER - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette)
11 GOT TO GET YOU BACK - Sons Of Robinstone (Atco)
12 HANG ON IN THERE BABY - Johnny Bristol (MGM)
13 HAPPINESS IS JUST AROUND THE BEND - The Main Ingredient (RCA)
14 HEY BABY - The Jonses (Mercury Par 1 & 2)
15 HEY GIRL COME & GET IT - The Stylistics (Avco LP only)
16 HONEY BEE - Gloria Gaynor (MGM & Columbia)
17 HONEY PLEASE - Barry White (20th Century Fox vocal & inst.)
18 I CAN'T FIGHT FOR YOUR LOVE - The Modulations (Buddah)
19 I'LL BE HOLDING ON - Al Downing (Chess disco mix)
20 I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU UP - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette)
21 GET DANCIN' - Disco Tex & The Sex-O-Lettes (Chelsea)
22 GUT LEVEL - The Blackbyrds (fantasy LP only)
23 LA LA PEACE SONG - O.C. Smith (Columbia)
24 LOVE EPIDEMIC - The Trammps (Golden Fleece)
25 LOVE IS THE ANSWER - The Stylistics (Avco LP only- vocal & inst)
26 LOVE IS THE MESSAGE - MFSB (Phila. Intl LP only)
27 MACHINE GUN - The Commodores (Motown)
28 MAINLINE - Ashford & Simpson (WB)
29 MELTING POT - Boris Gardiner (Dynamic Import-Jamaica)
30 MIGHTY CLOUDS OF JOY - Mighty Clouds Of Joy (ABC LP only)
31 NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE - Gloria Gaynor (MGM)
32 ROCK ME AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN - Lyn Collins (People)
33 ROCK THE BOAT - The Hues Corporation (RCA)
34 ROCK YOUR BABY - George McCrae (T.K.)
35 SHAME, SHAME, SHAME - Shirley & Company (Vibration)
36 SISTERS & BROTHERS - Rita Fortune (Columbia vocal & inst)
37 STOP, I DON'T NEED NO SYMPATHY - Lyn Roman (Brunswick)
38 SUGAR PIE GUY - The Joneses (Mercury - Part 1 & 2)
39 TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT - Jimmy Ruffin (Chess-English Polydor)
40 THE BOTTLE - Gil Scott-Heron (Strata East LP only)
41 THEN CAME YOU - The Spinners & Dionne Warwick (Atlantic)
42 THE PLAYER - First Choice (Philly Groove LP only)
43 TSOP - MFSB (Phila. Intl)
44 WATERBED - LTG Exchange (Wand Part 1 & 2)
45 WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND - Black Ivory (Ewamza)
46 WHEN THE FUEL RUNS OUT - Executive Suite (Babylon)
47 WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE - The Trammps (Golden Fleece)
48 WHERE IS THE LOVE - The Whispers (Janus LP only)
49 YOU LITTLE TRUSTMAKER - The Tymes (RCA - unreleased original & released version)
50 YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING - Barry White (20th Century Fox --vocal & inst.)


TOP NEW YORK HITS OF 1975
(In Order Of Popularity)

1 BAD LUCK - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes (Phila. Intl. LP)
2 HIJACK - Herbie Mann (Atlantic)
3 FLY, ROBIN FLY/ I LIKE IT - Silver Convention (Midland Intl LP)
4 FREE MAN - South Shore Commission (Wand)
5 WHERE IS THE LOVE - Betty Wright (Alston LP)
6 CASANOVA BROWN/ DO IT YOURSELF/HOW HIGH THE MOON - Gloria Gaynor (MGM LP)
7 EASE ON DOWN THE ROAD - Consumer Rapport (Wing & a Prayer)
8 HONEY BEE/ NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE/ REACH OUT - Gloria Gaynor (MGM LP)
9 I LOVE MUSIC - The O'Jays (Phila. Intl LP)
10 FOREVER CAME TODAY - Jackson Five (Motown LP)
11 BRAZIL - Ritchie Family (20th Century)
12 WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG AND IN LOVE - Ralph Carter (Mercury)
13 PEACEPIPE- B.T. Express (Roadshow LP)
14 SHAME, SHAME, SHAME - Shirley & Co. (Vibration)
15 E-MAN BOOGIE - Jimmy Castor Bunch (Atlantic LP)
16 EL BIMBO - Bimbo Jet (Scepter)
17 HELPLESSLEY - Moment Of Truth (Roulette)
18 DREAMING A DREAM - Crown Heights Affair (De-Lite)
19 BABY FACE - Wing & A Prayer Fife & Drum Corps (Wing & A Prayer)
20 WHAT A DIFF'RENCE A DAY MAKES - Esther Phillips (Kudu LP)
21 I'LL BE HOLDING ON - Al Downing (Chess)
22 CRYSTAL WORLD - Crystal Grass (Phillips French Import)
23 IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE - Tavares (Capitol disco version)
24 LOVE TO LOVE YOU BABY - Donna Summer (Oasis LP)
25 EVERY BEAT OF MY HEART - Crown Heights Affair (De-Lite)
26 THE HUSTLE - Van McCoy (Avco)
27 CARAVAN/WATUSI STRUT - Deodato (MCA LP)
28 DO IT ANY WAY YOU WANNA - People's Choice (TSOP)
29 SWEARIN' TO GOD - Frankie Valli (Private Stock disco version)
30 LADY BUMP/THE LADY BUMPS ON - Penny McLean (Atco)
31 I JUST CAN'T SAY GOODBYE - The Philly Devotions (Columbia)
32 THREE STEPS FROM TRUE LOVE - The Reflections (Capitol)
33 TRAMMPS DISCO THEME/ STOP AND THINK - The Trammps (Gold Fleece LP)
34 SALSOUL - Salsoul Orchestra (Salsoul LP)
35 FIRE/ YOU SET MY HEART ON FIRE - Tina Charles (Columbia)
36 JUMP FOR JOY/ I COULD HAVE DANCED ALL NIGHT - Biddu Orchestra (Epic)
37 EXPRESS - B.T. Express ( Scepter LP)
38 HOOKED FOR LIFE - The Trammps (Atlantic -long version)
39 GLASS HOUSE - The Temptations (Gordy LP)
40 I AM SOMEBODY - Jimmy James & The Vagabonds (Pye LP)
41 BLUE EYED SOUL - Carl Douglas (20th Century LP)
42 LADY MARMALADE/ WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU - Labelle (Epic LP)
43 MIGHTY HIGH/ EVERYTHING IS LOVE - Mighty Clouds Of Joy (ABC LP)
44 UNDECIDED LOVE - The Chequers (Scepter disco mix)
45 SUMMER OF '42/ EXODUS - Biddu Orchestra (Epic)
46 MESSIN' WITH MY MIND - Labelle (Epic LP)
47 FOOT STOMPIN' MUSIC/ DISCO STOMP - Bohannon (Dakar LP)
48 SEXY/ T.L.C. - MFSB ( Phila. Intl. LP)
49 SUNNY - Yambu (Montuno)
50 OVERTURE/ LOVE MACHINE - The Miracles (Tamla LP)

[MC]

Thanks Greg!! Your expertise is always appreciated. I meant to tell you this ealier, but DUDE your mix is HOT HOT (Both ones)!! 1983 was a great year for music and dancing!!!

[Soleful]

Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by OneLove:
Why not go through all those mixes in the archives and have a listen to the earlier ones. Hi OneLove
I've done some digging there and did not see much
of anything from the 70's, let alone the EARLY 70's. Also check out Dj Marble # 498.

That time-frame appears to be poorly represented in
the world of mix tapes.

Discotiser from 78 is very interesting.
Have you seen any mixes on the archives that are
earlier than that? </font>[/QUOTE]My early fav's are Larry Levan's Mix number 7, 18 and 25. Although he doesn't play many early 70's
cuts.
I think your comment about poor representation is correct, so I stand corrected.

[ October 05, 2003, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: OneLove ]

[djezmike]

Thanks for the replies you have made. It really helps!

[jeremy]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
Who is Discotiser - and is it really a mix from the 1970s? That's exactly what I was thinking.

It's easy to put together a 'cutting edge' mix tape, with a good record collection and a liberal sprinkling of hindsight.
Maybe G-man knows the history of that tape?

[john]

Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
Can anyone ID the track at the 11:22 mark? http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif That's DISCO DANCE by MICHELE, IIRC, an early
Tom Moulton extended remix on WEST END RECORDS...
amazing shit...discotizer is consistently working
two copies on a lot of the portions of this mix.

I THINK west end re-issued that one recently,
and I'm sure they reissued it in the 80's too.

I'm gonna be late for breakfast over at the B&H
diner on 2nd ave and 7th st.
I'll be back...this is one of the few times
that NYers and Brits can "chat" in "real time"
on this board. :D </font>[/QUOTE]john, thats actually not tom moultons mix but the GREAT Patrick Cowleys mega mix..

first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john

[imported_Gman]

Originally posted by jeremy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
Who is Discotiser - and is it really a mix from the 1970s? That's exactly what I was thinking.

It's easy to put together a 'cutting edge' mix tape, with a good record collection and a liberal sprinkling of hindsight.
Maybe G-man knows the history of that tape? </font>[/QUOTE]I got this tape from trading tapes over the internet some time ago. I have no idea who DJ discotizer is and don't know if its really from 1978 or not. The only thing I know is that he is supposed to be from NY.

-Gerard

[music]

pre disco were the real dancing days.

[djklas]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
Who is Discotiser - and is it really a mix from the 1970s? I heard that DJ Discotizer was actually Rufus Simms in his later years...when he moved to NY and started to play doubles of every record... :D

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I've been wanting an ID on that first track which I still have not seen since the mix got put up. Does anyone know it? What about Mancuso or FK? Someone has to know it.

[djklas]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
I've been wanting an ID on that first track which I still have not seen since the mix got put up. Does anyone know it? What about Mancuso or FK? Someone has to know it. John just ID'd it foolio...


Originally posted by john:
first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john

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Originally posted by djklas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
I've been wanting an ID on that first track which I still have not seen since the mix got put up. Does anyone know it? What about Mancuso or FK? Someone has to know it. John just ID'd it foolio...


Originally posted by john:
first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john </font>[/QUOTE]http://www.akri.org/research/images/doh.jpg

[DEEPHOUSEHEAD]

I posted an interview with Nicky Siano and Mel Cheren on

www.vjsproductionsinc.com (http://www.vjsproductionsinc.com)
(click on the "tapes" area)

the recording includes Nicky dropping many early 70's tracks, and commenting on them.

[Sam The Man Burns]

graemlins/mecry.gif *sniff* my life has just been flashed before me...........

Great Topic!

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Originally posted by Sam The Man Burns:
graemlins/mecry.gif *sniff* my life has just been flashed before me...........

Great Topic! Don't sniff. Be proud. You were lucky to have lived through that era.

[MC]

Originally posted by john:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
Can anyone ID the track at the 11:22 mark? http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif That's DISCO DANCE by MICHELE, IIRC, an early
Tom Moulton extended remix on WEST END RECORDS...
amazing shit...discotizer is consistently working
two copies on a lot of the portions of this mix.

I THINK west end re-issued that one recently,
and I'm sure they reissued it in the 80's too.

I'm gonna be late for breakfast over at the B&H
diner on 2nd ave and 7th st.
I'll be back...this is one of the few times
that NYers and Brits can "chat" in "real time"
on this board. :D </font>[/QUOTE]john, thats actually not tom moultons mix but the GREAT Patrick Cowleys mega mix..

first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john </font>[/QUOTE]Dude thanks!!! The search is on for this record.

[greg wilson]

Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
Thanks Greg!! Your expertise is always appreciated. I meant to tell you this ealier, but DUDE your mix is HOT HOT (Both ones)!! 1983 was a great year for music and dancing!!! Nice one, thanks for the props Michael.

[upliftdisco365]

Originally posted by djklas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
Who is Discotiser - and is it really a mix from the 1970s? I heard that DJ Discotizer was actually Rufus Simms in his later years...when he moved to NY and started to play doubles of every record... :D </font>[/QUOTE]Urban Legend. DJ Discotizer, whose real name is Luscious Simms, was the love child of a teenage Rufus Simms and then, 20-year-old Leslie Uggams. Rufus became a mail clerk for Chess Records and then later a roadie, for the likes of Percy Sledge, O.C. Smith and Bobby Blue Bland. He was absent from the life of young Luscious, but not at all surprised to hear of his ascent to superstar Disco DJ status. They were reunited during a tagteam set at the Barrelhouse in Watts, CA. I have a copy of the set on 1/2 inch audio tape for sale on Ebay for $11,000.00

[jeremy]

graemlins/lol.gif

[jsd540]

Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by djklas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
Who is Discotiser - and is it really a mix from the 1970s? I heard that DJ Discotizer was actually Rufus Simms in his later years...when he moved to NY and started to play doubles of every record... :D </font>[/QUOTE]Urban Legend. DJ Discotizer, whose real name is Luscious Simms, was the love child of a teenage Rufus Simms and then, 20-year-old Leslie Uggams. Rufus became a mail clerk for Chess Records and then later a roadie, for the likes of Percy Sledge, O.C. Smith and Bobby Blue Bland. He was absent from the life of young Luscious, but not at all surprised to hear of his ascent to superstar Disco DJ status. They were reunited during a tagteam set at the Barrelhouse in Watts, CA. I have a copy of the set on 1/2 inch audio tape for sale on Ebay for $11,000.00 </font>[/QUOTE]C'mon papi I thought you would hook me up with a copy... :(

[Wild i]

2 of my favorites from the mid-late 70s that I rarely heard on the radio: Love Dancing and Touch and Go.

[John Hall]

Originally posted by john:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
Can anyone ID the track at the 11:22 mark? http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif That's DISCO DANCE by MICHELE, IIRC, an early
Tom Moulton extended remix on WEST END RECORDS...
amazing shit...discotizer is consistently working
two copies on a lot of the portions of this mix.

I THINK west end re-issued that one recently,
and I'm sure they reissued it in the 80's too.


</font>[/QUOTE]john, thats actually not tom moultons mix but the GREAT Patrick Cowleys mega mix..

first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john </font>[/QUOTE]Hey John, can you please provide a reference?
It sounds to me like the West End 12", and I thought
it was Tom Moulton who did that "megamix".
I love Patrick Cowley's work, but had no idea that
he did any work for West End.
So a link to anything that confirms that would
be appreciated.
(I wouldn't be surprised if I was totally misinformed...
years of free Vodka Screwdrivers can do that to ya. ;) )

AND THANKS MUCHO for the head's up on Claudja Barry.

I've seen that 12" many times, but had no idea it
was THAT good....will find one asap.

Thanks SO much for that info! smile.gif

[john]

Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by john:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
Can anyone ID the track at the 11:22 mark? http://deephousepage.com/smilies/praise2.gif That's DISCO DANCE by MICHELE, IIRC, an early
Tom Moulton extended remix on WEST END RECORDS...
amazing shit...discotizer is consistently working
two copies on a lot of the portions of this mix.

I THINK west end re-issued that one recently,
and I'm sure they reissued it in the 80's too.


</font>[/QUOTE]john, thats actually not tom moultons mix but the GREAT Patrick Cowleys mega mix..

first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john </font>[/QUOTE]Hey John, can you please provide a reference?
It sounds to me like the West End 12", and I thought
it was Tom Moulton who did that "megamix".
I love Patrick Cowley's work, but had no idea that
he did any work for West End.
So a link to anything that confirms that would
be appreciated.
(I wouldn't be surprised if I was totally misinformed...
years of free Vodka Screwdrivers can do that to ya. ;) )

AND THANKS MUCHO for the head's up on Claudja Barry.

I've seen that 12" many times, but had no idea it
was THAT good....will find one asap.

Thanks SO much for that info! smile.gif </font>[/QUOTE]whats up john,
yes you´re right Michele is on west end.. I just wanted to clarify that it was Cowleys mix not moultons..

My reference is my own copy I´m looking at smile.gif

side a patrick cowley mega mix 14 min
side b moulton mix

the tasty part of the cowley track is only 5-6 min something, discotizer (great name..) rocks two copies ( as with everything else ..)

bout claudja barry, I´m not 100% sure its the one since I dont have a copy.. however If my memory serves me right claudja recorded a track called "johnny johnny please come home"..

I only know a few of the other disco-breaks he plays. for ex king errison -well have a nice day
there a re many yet to be id´d!

peace in the middle east /john

[Sam The Man Burns]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sam The Man Burns:
graemlins/mecry.gif *sniff* my life has just been flashed before me...........

Great Topic! Don't sniff. Be proud. You were lucky to have lived through that era. </font>[/QUOTE]Proud and happy to live through this music frontier too! graemlins/grinyes.gif

[Hippie]

A couple of missed tracks are (Ipi Tombia), (You Can't Even Walk In The Park) on the " Shaft In Africa Album " and (Gimme Some Mo) by Redd Holt.

[Hippie]

Also forgot (Spaghetti Head).

[ladyboygrimsby]

Originally posted by Hippie:
Also forgot (Spaghetti Head). Big Noise From Winnetka? Or Funky Axe?

[Hippie]

Big Noise

[Hippie]

Also forgot (Hurt So Bad) by Philly Devotion

[Hippie]

My bad I see you included Spaghetti Head Bill.

[5haus]

maybe discotizer will provide us with a complete tracklisting himself graemlins/conf44.gif

http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=030289

[Hippie]

Another record forgotten is James Brown's Live version of (Give It Up Turn It Loose). Big record in the early 70's and still a classic.

[Hippie]

Anyone mention Manu Dibango's " New Bell "?

[Mr 1977]

Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:


first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john Dude thanks!!! The search is on for this record. [/QB][/QUOTE]

You might have better luck finding her album Claudja Barry "Claudia" (Salsoul-5525) 1978. The album version is 7:09 minutes long.

[John Hall]

Originally posted by Hippie:
Another record forgotten is James Brown's Live version of (Give It Up Turn It Loose). Big record in the early 70's and still a classic. That James Brown classic is on the consolidated, alphabetized-by-first
name master list that I spent 2 1/2 hours working on
on Sunday Morning.
(Of course there are about 2 or 3 dozen other
JB and related cuts that qualify too!)

Instead of working, silly me did my best to sort
and consolodate the lists on this
Pre Disco thread that were posted by

Jolyon
Ladyboygrimsby and
Greg Wilson

and I've been adding other songs as they come
up...please make sure your suggestions are
not later than 1975.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Abaco Dream (A&M, 1969) - Life and Death in G & A -
Al Downing (Chess disco mix) - I'LL BE HOLDING ON -
Al Foster Band - Night Of The Wolf
Al Green (Hi, 1972) - Love and Happiness -
Apatchi Band - Issmak
Aretha Franklin (71) - Rock Steady -
Ashford & Simpson (Warner Bros., 1974) - Main Line -

B.T. Express (Roadshow LP 75) - PEACEPIPE-
B.T. Express (Scepter LP only) - DO IT (TIL YOU'RE SATISFIED) -
B.T. Express (Scepter LP only) - EXPRESS -
Babe Ruth - The Mexican
Barbara Acklin (Brunswick, 1973) - I'll Bake Me a Man -
Barrabas (75) - Checkmate -
Barrabas (75) - Mellow Blow -
Barrabas (RCA, 1973) - Wild Safari -
Barrabas (RCA, 1973) - Woman
Barry White (20th Century Fox --vocal & inst.) - YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING -
Barry White (20th Century Fox vocal & inst.) - HONEY PLEASE -
Barry White (20th Century Fox--vocal & inst.) - CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE, BABE -
Barry White (75) - I'll Do Anything For You -
Beautiful Zion Choir (Myrrh, 1973) - Dust Yourself Off and Try It Again -
Ben Vereen - Stop Your Half Steppin' Mama
Betty Wright (Alston LP) - WHERE IS THE LOVE -
Betty Wright (Alston, 1972) - If You Love Me Like You Say You Love Me -
Biddu Orchestra (Epic) - JUMP FOR JOY -
Biddu Orchestra (Epic) - EXODUS -
Biddu Orchestra (Epic) - I COULD HAVE DANCED ALL NIGHT -
Biddu Orchestra (Epic) - SUMMER OF '42
Bimbo Jet (Scepter) - EL BIMBO -
Black Ivory (Kwanza, 1974) - What Goes Around (Comes Around) -
Blackbyrds (fantasy LP only) - GUT LEVEL -
Blood Hollins - How Have You Been
Blue Magic (73) - Look Me Up -
Bobby Moore (75) - Call Me Your Anything Man -
Bobby Wilson - Deeper & Deeper
Bobby Womack (72) - I Can Understand It -
Bohannon (75) - Foot Stompin' Music -
Bonnie Bramlett (Columbia, 1973) - Crazy 'Bout My Baby -
Booker T. & MGs (71) - Melting Pot -
Boris Gardiner Happening (Dynamic, 1973) - Melting Pot -
Brenda & The Tabulations (Epic, 1972) - Little Bit of Love -
Brooklyn People - Brooklyn Express
Brothers Guiding Light Featuring David (Mercury, 1973) - Getting Together -
Buddy Miles (Columbia, 1974) - Pull Yourself Together -

Carl Carlton (Backbeat) - EVERLASTING LOVE -
Carl Douglas (20th Century LP) - BLUE EYED SOUL -
Carol Douglas (Midland Intl) - DOCTOR'S ORDERS -
Chakachas - Africa Yama
Chequers (Scepter disco mix) - UNDECIDED LOVE -
Commodores (Motown) - MACHINE GUN -
Consumer Rapport (Wing & a Prayer) - EASE ON DOWN THE ROAD -
Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose - Got To Testify
Creative Source (Sussex, 1974) - Who is He And What is He to You -
Crown Heights Affair (De-Lite) - EVERY BEAT OF MY HEART
Crown Heights Affair (De-Lite) - DREAMING A DREAM -
Crystal Grass (75) - Crystal World -
Crystal Grass (Phillips French Import) - CRYSTAL WORLD -
Cymande - Bra -

Deodato (MCA LP) - CARAVAN
Deodato (MCA LP) - WATUSI STRUT -
Detroit Emeralds (Westbound, 1972) - Feel the Need in Me -
Diana Ross (Motown LP) - Love Hangover
Disco Tex & The Sex-O-Lettes (Chelsea) - GET DANCIN' -
Don Downing (Scepter Disco mix) - DREAM WORLD -
Donna Summer (Oasis LP) - LOVE TO LOVE YOU BABY -
Dorothy Morrison (Elektra, 1971) - Rain -
Dynamic Superiors (75) - Face The Music -

Ecstacy, Passion & Pain (74) - Ask Me -
Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette 1974) - GOOD THINGS DON'T LAST FOREVER -
Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette) - I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU UP -
Eddie Kendricks (Tamla LP version) - BOOGIE DOWN -
Eddie Kendricks (Tamla, 1972) - Date With the Rain -
Eddie Kendricks (Tamla, 1972) - Girl You Need a Change of Mind
Edwin Starr (Gordy, 1969) - Running Back and Forth -
Edwin Starr (Gordy, 1969) - Twenty-Five Miles
El Bimbo - Bimbo Jet
Equals (Shout, 1972) - Black Skin Blue Eyed Boys -
Esther Phillips (Kudu LP) - WHAT A DIFF'RENCE A DAY MAKES -
Etta James - Out On The Streets Again
Everyday People (Paramount, 1972) - I Like What I Like -
Exectuve Suite - You Believed In Me
Executive Suite (Babylon) - WHEN THE FUEL RUNS OUT -

Family Tree (75) - The Family Tree -
Fatback Band (75) - Do The Bus Stop -
Fatback Band (Perception, 1973) - Street Dance/Njia (Nija) Walk (Street walk) -
First Choice (73) - Love & Happiness -
First Choice (74) - The Player -
First Choice (Philly Groove LP only) - THE PLAYER -
First Choice (Philly Groove, 1973) - Armed and Extremely Dangerous/
First Choice (Philly Groove, 1973) - Smarty Pants -
Frankie Valli (Private Stock disco version) - SWEARIN' TO GOD -
Fred Wesley & The J.B.'s (People, 1973) - Doing it to Death -

George McCrae (T.K.) - ROCK YOUR BABY -
Gil Scott-Heron - Brother to Brother (Turbo, 1974)
Gil Scott-Heron - The Bottle (Strata-East, 1974)
Gloria Gaynor (75) - Walk On By -
Gloria Gaynor (MGM & Columbia) - HONEY BEE -
Gloria Gaynor (MGM LP 75) - CASANOVA BROWN
Gloria Gaynor (MGM LP) - DO IT YOURSELF
Gloria Gaynor (MGM LP) - HOW HIGH THE MOON -
Gloria Gaynor (MGM LP) - NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE
Gloria Gaynor (MGM LP) - REACH OUT -
Gloria Spencer (Jay Walking, 1971) - I Got It -
Ground Hog - Bumping
Grover Washington, Jr. (75) - Mister Magic -

Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes (Phila. Intl. LP) - BAD LUCK -
Herbie Mann (75) - Hi-Jack -
Hook - Hesitation
Hues Corporation (RCA) - ROCK THE BOAT -

Isaac Hayes - (Enterprise, 1974) - Pursuit of the PimpMobile -

Jackie Moore (Atlantic, 1973) - Sweet Charlie Babe
Jackie Moore (Atlantic, 1973) - Time -
Jackson 5 (73) - Dance And Hum Along -
Jackson 5 (74) - Mirrors Of My Mind -
Jackson 5 - I Am Love
Jackson Five (Motown LP) - FOREVER CAME TODAY -
James Brown (69) - Give It Up Or Turn It Loose -
James Last - Summertime
Jermaine Jackson (Instr.) (75) - Erucu -
Jimmy Castor Bunch (72) - It's Just Begun -
Jimmy Castor Bunch (Atlantic LP) - E-MAN BOOGIE -
Jimmy James & The Vagabonds (Pye LP) I AM SOMEBODY -
Jimmy Ruffin (Chess-English Polydor) - TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT -
John Lennon - What You Got
Johnny Bristol (MGM) - HANG ON IN THERE BABY -
Joneses (74) - Sugar Pie Guy -
Joneses (Mercury Par 1 & 2) - HEY BABY -

LTG Exchange (7?) - Corazon -
LTG Exchange (7?) - Waterbed -
Labelle (75) - Messin' With My Mind -
Labelle (75) - What Can I Do For You -
Labelle (Epic LP) - LADY MARMALADE
Lamont Dozier (73) - Breaking Out All Over -
Lamont Dozier (ABC, 1973) - Take Off Your Make-up -
Little Sister (Stone Flower, 1970) - You're the One -
Lonnie Liston Smith (75) - Expansions -
Love Unlimited (20th Century, 1973) - Under the Influence of Love -
Love Unlimited (74) - Move Me No Mountain -
Lyn Collins (People) - ROCK ME AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN -
Lyn Collins (People, 1972) - Think (About It) -
Lyn Roman (Brunswick) - STOP, I DON'T NEED NO SYMPATHY -

MFSB ( Phila. Intl. LP) - SEXY
MFSB ( Phila. Intl. LP) - T.L.C. -
MFSB (Phila. Intl LP only [???]) - LOVE IS THE MESSAGE -
MFSB (Phila. Intl) - TSOP -
Main Ingredient (RCA) - HAPPINESS IS JUST AROUND THE BEND -
Major Harris - Each Morning I Wake Up
Mandrill (Polydor, 1973) - Fencewalk -
Manu Dibango (Atlantic, 1973) - Soul Makossa -
Margo Thunder - Expressway To Your Heart
Marsha Hunt's 22 - Oh No Not The Beast Day
Mighty Clouds Of Joy (ABC LP only) - MIGHTY CLOUDS OF JOY -
Mighty Clouds Of Joy (ABC LP) - EVERYTHING IS LOVE -
Mighty Clouds Of Joy (ABC LP) - MIGHTY HIGH
Mike & Bill (75) - Somebody's Gotta Go -
Miracles (Tamla LP) - LOVE MACHINE -
Miracles (Tamla LP) - OVERTURE/
Mission - Fear No Evil
Modulations (Buddah) - I CAN'T FIGHT FOR YOUR LOVE -
Modulations - Can't Fight Your Love
Moment Of Truth (Roulette 75) - HELPLESSLEY -
Mongo Santamaria - Lady Marmalade

New Birth (73) - Got To Get A Knutt -
New Birth - I Can Understand It - (RCA, 1973)/
New Birth - Kokomo (Columbia, 1975)
New Birth - Valentinos (Atlantic, 1973)/

O'Jays (Phila. Intl LP) - I LOVE MUSIC -
O.C. Smith (Columbia) - LA LA PEACE SONG -
Olympic Runners (74) - Put The Music Where Your Mouth Is -
Osibisa (Decca, 1971) - Music For Gong Gong -

Patti Jo (75) - Make Me Believe In You
Penny McLean (Atco) - LADY BUMP/
Penny McLean (Atco) - THE LADY BUMPS ON -
People's Choice (TSOP 75) - DO IT ANY WAY YOU WANNA -
Philly Devotions (Columbia) - I JUST CAN'T SAY GOODBYE -

Ralph Carter (Mercury) - WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG AND IN LOVE -
Reflections (Capitol) - THREE STEPS FROM TRUE LOVE -
Reggie Gardner (ABC, 1974) - Half a Cup -
Rita Fortune (Columbia vocal & inst) - SISTERS & BROTHERS -
Ritchie Family (75) - Brazil -
Ritchie Family (75) - Peanut Vendor -
Rockin' Horse - Love Do Me Right

Salsoul Orchestra (75) - Salsoul Rainbow -
Salsoul Orchestra (Salsoul LP) - SALSOUL -
Shirley & Company (Vibration) - SHAME, SHAME, SHAME -
Silver Convention (75) - Save Me -
Silver Convention (Midland Intl LP) - FLY, ROBIN FLY
Silver Convention (Midland Intl LP) - I LIKE IT -
Sister Sledge (74) - Love Don't You Go Through No Changes On Me -
Sisters Love (73) - Give Me Your Love -
Sons Of Robin Stone (Atco) - GOT TO GET YOU BACK -
Soul Searchers (Sussex, 1972) - We the People -
South Shore Commission (75) - Free Man -
Spaghetti Head - Big Noise From Winnetka
Spinners & Dionne Warwick (Atlantic) - THEN CAME YOU -
Stylistics (Avco LP only) - HEY GIRL COME & GET IT -
Stylistics (Avco LP only- vocal & inst) - LOVE IS THE ANSWER -
Supremes (75) - Where Do I Go From Here -
Supremes - Up The Ladder To The Roof
Supremes - High Energy

Tamiko Jones - Touch Me Baby
Tavares (75) - It Only Takes A Minute -
Temptations (Gordy LP) - GLASS HOUSE -
Temptations (Gordy, 1972) - Papa Was a Rollin' Stone -
Temptations - The Law Of The Land
Temptations - Masterpiece
Timebox (Deram, 1968) - Beggin' -
Tina Charles (Columbia) - FIRE
Tina Charles (Columbia) - YOU SET MY HEART ON FIRE -
Titanic (Epic, 1972/1973) - Rain 2000 -
Titanic (Epic, 1972/1973) - Sultana
Titanic - Santa Fe
Tom Scott & LA Express - Tom Cat
Titanic - Santa Fe
Tom Scott & LA Express - Tom Cat
Touch Of Class (75) - I'm In Heaven -
Trammps (Atlantic -long version) - HOOKED FOR LIFE -
Trammps (Buddah, 1972) - Zing Went the Strings of My Heart -
Trammps (Gold Fleece LP) - STOP AND THINK -
Trammps (Gold Fleece LP) - TRAMMPS DISCO THEME/
Trammps (Golden Fleece) - LOVE EPIDEMIC -
Trammps (Golden Fleece) - WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE -
Tribe (ABC, 1973) - Koke - (Coke? Smoke?)
Tymes (RCA - unreleased original & released version) - YOU LITTLE TRUSTMAKER -

Undisputed Truth (73) - Law Of The Land -

Van McCoy (75) - Change With The Times -
Van McCoy (Avco) - THE HUSTLE -
Vernon Burch (75) - And You Call That Love -

War (72) - City Country City -
Whispers (Janus LP only) - WHERE IS THE LOVE -
Willie Henderson (Playboy - Part 1 & 2) - DANCE MASTER -
Willie Hutch (73) - Brother's Gonna Work It Out -
Willie Hutch (Motown, 1974) - You Sure Know How To Love Your Man -
Wilson Pickett - Don't Knock My Love (Pt. 2)
Wing & A Prayer (75) - Eleanor Rigby -
Wing & A Prayer Fife & Drum Corps (Wing & A Prayer) - BABY FACE -
Wisdom - Nefertiti

Yambu (Montuno) - SUNNY -

Zulema (Sussex, 1973) - Giving Up -
Zulema - Wanna Be Where You Are

[ October 07, 2003, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: John Hall ]

[Mark Gurney]

Originally posted by Mr 1977:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:


first cut would be claudja barry -johnny johnny.
cheers /john Dude thanks!!! The search is on for this record. </font>[/QUOTE]You might have better luck finding her album Claudja Barry "Claudia" (Salsoul-5525) 1978. The album version is 7:09 minutes long. [/QB][/QUOTE]

The version that came out on Lollipop records (6306 105) is not the same, the album does contain 'Sweet Dynamite' which for me is a better track & surprisingly one that Tom Moulton didn't mix. The version to go for is the extended mix on Salsoul.

[Wild i]

First cut I ever hear mixed was "Car Wash" by Rose Royce. It was at what my mother referred to as a rent party at Tee's apartment on Gerard Avenue. Musta been 1973-4 cause I think I was still in high school.

[John Hall]

Originally posted by Wild i:
First cut I ever hear mixed was "Car Wash" by Rose Royce. It was at what my mother referred to as a rent party at Tee's apartment on Gerard Avenue. Musta been 1973-4 cause I think I was still in high school. Wild I, when are you gonna share some more
stories about Continental Baths?

Didja see my post about working for years at
the drugstore on 74th and Amsterdam in my
Better Days post?

[greg wilson]

Originally posted by Wild i:
First cut I ever hear mixed was "Car Wash" by Rose Royce. It was at what my mother referred to as a rent party at Tee's apartment on Gerard Avenue. Musta been 1973-4 cause I think I was still in high school. Hi Wild i: The memory plays strange tricks, 'Car Wash' wasn't until '76.

[greg wilson]

I started deejaying in the clubs at the end of '75. Off the top of my head here are 30 tracks of the funkier variety, which continued to be popular when played as 'oldies':

BANBARRA shack up
BROTHER TO BROTHER chance with you
BT EXPRESS do it (‘til you’re satisfied)
BT EXPRESS express
EARTH WIND & FIRE shining star
FATBACK BAND wicki wacky
FATBACK BAND yum yum (gimme some)
FATBACK BAND (are you ready) do the bus stop
JAMES BROWN the payback
JAMES BROWN my thang
JAMES BROWN sex machine
JAMES BROWN funky president
JAMES BROWN I got ants in my pants
JIMMY CASTOR BUNCH bertha butt boogie
JIMMY CASTOR BUNCH e man boogie
K.C & THE SUNSHINE BAND get down tonight
KOOL & THE GANG funky stuff
KOOL & THE GANG hollywood swinging
KOOL & THE GANG spirit of the boogie
KOOL & THE GANG jungle boogie
MANU DIBANGO soul makossa
OHIO PLAYERS fire
OHIO PLAYERS skin tight
OHIO PLAYERS love rollercoaster
PARLIAMENT tear the roof off the sucker (give up the funk)
PEOPLES CHOICE do it anyway you wanna
RUFUS once you get started
SOUL SEARCHERS blow your whistle
STEVIE WONDER superstition
WAR me and baby brother

[quentin2bott]

i have always though the first cut on the Discotizer mix was Claudja Barry - Johnny please come home. Exist in 12"
Someone should check..
graemlins/sleep2.gif

[jcapeverde]

Originally posted by John Hall:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by djezmike:
What are some of the songs that were hits in the nightclubs between 1970-1975. I have read about "The Loft", "The Gallery" " Better Days" and of Dj's as Nicky Siano, Walter Gibbons,David Mancuso and many others.Does anyone of some of their favorite songs they would play, or what was popular and the clubs they played in? Thanks hail.gif In the earliest days of "disco" and proto-disco,
anything that was danceable was played, in the sense
that there was even more eclecticism than later.

If you look at a playlist of the top 100 Pop, Rock
and Soul/R&B songs of a given year from the late
60's through the early 70's, you'll find the songs
that were played by the early DJ's.

The real question is, what did they play at that time
that was "UNDERGROUND", ie, NOT on the charts and
not "popular".
THAT's the stuff I want to know about, since I've
heard and grew up on all the obvious stuff that can
be danced to.

Here's an url for a google search I did of 1970's
popular choons from WABC, a nyc top-40 radio station
I grew up to:

http://snurl.com/2ker

Here's the page I came up with, a 1970 WABC survey:


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From: Ken Williamson (kentaur@***.com)
Subject: WABC, New York Survey/ 3 November 1970
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Date: 2000-10-31 08:54:53 PST

WABC Music Power Survey for Week of 3 November 1970

TW LW
1. I’ll Be There - The Jackson 5 (Motown) *5 weeks #1* 1
2. We’ve Only Just Begun - The Carpenters (A&M) 2
3. Fire and Rain - James Taylor (Warner Brothers) 5
4. Indiana Wants Me - R. Dean Taylor (Rare Earth) 4
5. All Right Now - Free (A&M) 6
6. Cracklin’ Rosie - Neil Diamond (Uni) 3
7. It Don’t Matter to Me - Bread (Elektra) 14
8. Green-Eyed Lady - Sugarloaf (Liberty) 15
9. Somebody’s Been Sleeping -
100 Proof (Aged in Soul) (Hot Wax) 10
10. 5-10-15-20 (25-30 Years of Love) - The Presidents (Sussex) 8
11. I Think I Love You - The Partridge Family (Bell) 25
12. Express Yourself - Charles Wright &
the Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band (Warner Brothers) 12
13. Still Water (Love) - The Four Tops (Motown) 9
14. Candida - Dawn (Bell) 7
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15. Lola - The Kinks (Reprise) 13
16. Super Bad, Part 1 & Part 2 - James Brown (King) 16
17. See Me, Feel Me - The Who (Decca) 23
18. Look What They’ve Done to My Song Ma -
The New Seekers (Elektra) 11
19. Montego Bay - Bobby Bloom (L&R) 24
20. Heaven Help Us All - Stevie Wonder (Tamla) 30
21. Yellow River - Christie (Epic) --
25. The Tears of a Clown -
Smokey Robinson & the Miracles (Tamla) --
34. Cry Me a River - Joe Cocker (A&M) 47
40. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? -
Chicago (Columbia) --
50. Only Love Can Break Your Heart - Neil Young (Reprise) HP
68. After Midnight - Eric Clapton (Atco) --

Hot Prospects:
Don’t Try to Lay No Boogie Woogie On the King of Rock & Roll
- Crow (Amaret)
No Matter What - Badfinger (Apple)
Share the Land - The Guess Who (RCA)
Be My Baby - Andy Kim (Steed)

Album Cuts:
It’s Up to You - The Moody Blues (Threshold)
Black Magic Woman/Gypsy Queen - Santana (Columbia)
Carol - The Rolling Stones (London)
Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin (Atlantic)
Bron-y-aur Stomp - Led Zeppelin (Atlantic)

Action Albums:
After the Gold Rush - Neil Young (Reprise)
Abraxas - Santana (Columbia)
Sweet Baby James - James Taylor (Warner Brothers)
Led Zeppelin III - Led Zeppelin (Atlantic)
“Get Yer Ya-Ya’s Out!” - The Rolling Stones (London)
A Question of Balance - The Moody Blues (Threshold)
Mad Dogs and Englishmen - Joe Cocker (A&M)
Tommy - The Who (Decca)
The Jackson 5 Third Album - The Jackson 5 (Motown)

All American of the Week:
Dan Ingram - 2:00-6:00 PM, Monday - Saturday


SPECIAL NOTE: “You Don’t Have to Say You Love Me” by Elvis
Presley (RCA) is listed on the printed survey, between between
#34 ("Cry Me a River") and #40 ("Does Anybody Really Know What
Time It Is?"). It does not receive airplay this week, nor is it
on the in-house playlist, even though it was #17 last week and
moves into the Top 14 next week.

©2003 Google


I don't remember the name and artist for everything
I've heard in my life, but I'm sure you can spot
material that was GOOD and DANCEABLE on this list,
though not a lot on this particular list.
The great stuff that's got a good dance beat
are songs were played by DJs, including NYC jocks of course.
Most early jocks were playing LOTS OF SOUL AND FUNK before DISCO became a unique, specialized sound.
What I'd really like to see
is the playlists for the NYC soul stations, which
would have tons of DJ material that never cracked
the pop charts.

Somewhere out there are ancient DJ playlists too.
Google is your friend.
:D </font>[/QUOTE]Hey John, i still have some original WWRL Big 16 Survey flyers from the late 60's and early 70's. Some of my faves from back then were:
"Where Do We Go From Here", The Traamps
"Put Your Feet To The Beat", Ritchie Family
"South African Man", Bohanon
"Love The Life You Live" Kool & The Gang
"Music Is The Message" Kool & The Gang
"We Got More Soul" Dyke & The Blazers
"Funky Broadway" Dyke & The Blazers
"So Much Trouble On My Mind"
Joe Quarterman & Free Soul graemlins/acclaim.gif

[BigPoppa]

"I got this tape from trading tapes over the internet some time ago. I have no idea who DJ discotizer is and don't know if its really from 1978 or not. The only thing I know is that he is supposed to be from NY.

-Gerard"

I just listened to this and have to admit, it does sound original. A lot of people forget that the DJs were not all doing these fantastic 10 minute long overlay mixes like they do today. the technology was different and the emphasis was not always on the mix, but on the programming itself. Having started in the mid 70s myself, I've love to see some tapes from those days through the end of the 70's. What a wonderful way to chronicle our past!

[Jolyon]

More...

Nazz - Hello It's Me
Redbone - Come And Get Your Love
Sunshine Band - Blackwater GoldFANIA RECORDS -

A list from David Mancuso...

MAKE IT WITH YOU - RALFI PAGAN
TAMLA (MOTOWN RECORD CORP) - PASSION FLOWER - KENNY LUPPER
MERCURY - INTERGALACTIC LOVE SONG - CHARLES EARLAND
PLATINUM RECORD - WELCOME TO THE PARTY - WOOD, BRASS & STEEL
BANG RECORDS - DO IT WITH FEELING - MICHAEL ZAGER'S MOON BAND FEATURING PEABO BRYSON
AWARE - "COME ON AND GET IT" - THE STEPPERS
MERCURY - SOMETHING WE GOT - THE MINX
JAMIE RECORD CO - "WHAT FOR THE RAIN" INST - THE PHILLY SOUND
WAITING FOR THE RAINATLANTIC - WING AND A PRAYER "EASE ON DOWN THE ROAD" - CONSUMER RAPPORT
MOTOWN RECORD CORP - RUNNING BACK AND FORTH - EDWIN STARR
SPECTRUM RECORDS - DO IT - BILLY SHA-RAE
SUSSEX RECORDS - TAURUS - DENNIS COFFEY AND THE DETROIT GUITAR BAND
STONE FLOWER - YOU'ER THE ONE-PART1 - LITTLE SISTER
DOWN TO EARTH RECORDS - GIMME SOME GENERAL CROOK
ALSTON RECORDS - GIMME SOME- JIMMY "BO" HORNE
DOWNSTAIRS RECORDS INC.- FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY - DISCO DUB BAND
FRANKFORD/WAYNE RECORDING LABS - ASCETATE 45 - ONE DAY OF PEACE - LOVE COMMITTEE

[ October 07, 2003, 04:49 AM: Message edited by: Jolyon ]

[ladyboygrimsby]

That Kenny Lupper's an awesome tune.

[Wild i]

Originally posted by greg wilson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Wild i:
First cut I ever hear mixed was "Car Wash" by Rose Royce. It was at what my mother referred to as a rent party at Tee's apartment on Gerard Avenue. Musta been 1973-4 cause I think I was still in high school. Hi Wild i: The memory plays strange tricks, 'Car Wash' wasn't until '76. </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, I'm old so... graemlins/stupid.gif

[john]

Originally posted by quentin2bott:
i have always though the first cut on the Discotizer mix was Claudja Barry - Johnny please come home. Exist in 12"
Someone should check..
graemlins/sleep2.gif on the flip of "dancin fever" you´ll find it everywhere..

[john]

here you´ll find some great info on pre-disco
http://www.rhino.com/features/liners/75595lin9.lasso
/j

[ladyboygrimsby]

Originally posted by john:
here you´ll find some great info on pre-disco
http://www.rhino.com/features/liners/75595lin9.lasso
/j Thanks for that link, John. I'd been looking for that to post here, but thought they'd removed it. Brian Chin was very helpful to me when I was researching this stuff.

[Hippie]

No mention of (The Mexican) by Babe Ruth.

[John Hall]

Originally posted by jcapeverde:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />

Originally posted by djezmike:
[qb] What are some of the songs that were hits in the nightclubs between 1970-1975. I have read about "The Loft", "The Gallery" " Better Days" and of Dj's as Nicky Siano, Walter Gibbons,David Mancuso and many others.Does anyone of some of their favorite songs they would play, or what was popular and the clubs they played in? Thanks hail.gif Hey John, i still have some original WWRL Big 16 Survey flyers from the late 60's and early 70's. Some of my faves from back then were:
"Where Do We Go From Here", The Traamps
"Put Your Feet To The Beat", Ritchie Family
"South African Man", Bohanon
"Love The Life You Live" Kool & The Gang
"Music Is The Message" Kool & The Gang
"We Got More Soul" Dyke & The Blazers
"Funky Broadway" Dyke & The Blazers
"So Much Trouble On My Mind"
Joe Quarterman & Free Soul graemlins/acclaim.gif </font>Nice list JCapeVerde...thanks...

I remember THE BIG RL...
I mainly listened to WABC and WMCA, then got exposed to WWRL at summer day-camp, where a lot
of the kids listened to WWRL.

Didn't Frankie Crocker start out there?

I'll add this to my big list...that Joe Quarterman
LP is tha bomb...I believe the vinyl has been
reissued by Scorpio, and there's a Japanese CD
re-issue too.

[John Hall]

Originally posted by ladyboygrimsby:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by john:
here you´ll find some great info on pre-disco
http://www.rhino.com/features/liners/75595lin9.lasso
/j Thanks for that link, John. I'd been looking for that to post here, but thought they'd removed it. Brian Chin was very helpful to me when I was researching this stuff. </font>[/QUOTE]Hey Bill, the other John here, I incorporated everything from that list into my master list above.
Thanks for posting it earlier...
Brian Chin is Da Man! smile.gif

[John Hall]

Originally posted by Hippie:
No mention of (The Mexican) by Babe Ruth. Done.
Thanks for reminding me, Hippie. smile.gif