Unhappy Graduation....

[Fletch]

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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/93480p-84749c.html

[Discogoddess]

Okay, beyond the mess of the violence, what's with 5th graders having graduation and a prom? Aren't they still in grammar school? Maybe I'm not hip to the new style...please enlighten me.

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[Ken1015]

It's a shame when parents act more childish than their children. These people set a horrible example.

[Fletch]

Ok, I have to blame everyone. Parents for acting stupid. Guards for the quick trigger finger (and relaxing the 2 person rule). And the school for 1) giving only 2 tickets; and 2) booking a very small auditorium (500 capacity). Unreal. Peace.

[RX]

Originally posted by Discogoddess:
Okay, beyond the mess of the violence, what's with 5th graders having graduation and a prom? Aren't they still in grammar school? Maybe I'm not hip to the new style...please enlighten me.

graemlins/conf44.gif they go on to middle school...then junior high...then high school...

[Discogoddess]

Thought I'd bump this to the top, if folk want to discuss the actual incident minus the inflammatory thread title started by Buddy Love/Mark.

[MYOR]

Thank you...

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[Discogoddess]

Originally posted by Ms Rickey X:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Discogoddess:
Okay, beyond the mess of the violence, what's with 5th graders having graduation and a prom? Aren't they still in grammar school? Maybe I'm not hip to the new style...please enlighten me.

graemlins/conf44.gif they go on to middle school...then junior high...then high school... </font>[/QUOTE]I've had a growing sinking feeling in my stomach about the importance some people place on milestones like this. My guess is that folk place greater emphasis on grammar school and junior high graduations because these ceremonies might be the first and only time families will see their kids in caps and gowns and/or dressed up in evening attire (prom).

As for the stupidity of the grown azz people at the ceremony who though violence was a reasonable action: WTF can you really say? The evening is certainly a teaching tool, but my guess is that many of the kids will pick up the lesson that this kind of behavior is acceptable, rather than the opposite. I'm sure one of these geniuses will want to sue the school for having the ceremony in a smaller venue.

[ June 19, 2003, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Discogoddess ]

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by Discogoddess:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ms Rickey X:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Discogoddess:
Okay, beyond the mess of the violence, what's with 5th graders having graduation and a prom? Aren't they still in grammar school? Maybe I'm not hip to the new style...please enlighten me.

graemlins/conf44.gif they go on to middle school...then junior high...then high school... </font>[/QUOTE]I've had a growing sinking feeling in my stomach about the importance some people place on milestones like this. My guess is that folk place greater emphasis on grammar school and junior high graduations because these ceremonies might be the first and only time families will see their kids in caps and gowns and/or dressed up in evening attire (prom).

As for the stupidity of the grown azz people at the ceremony who though violence was a reasonable action: WTF can you really say? The evening is certainly a teaching tool, but my guess is that many of the kids will pick up the lesson that this kind of behavior is acceptable, rather than the opposite. I'm sure one of these geniuses will want to sue the school for having the ceremony in a smaller venue. </font>[/QUOTE]I find it hard to believe that parents are engaging in allowing their 5th grade child to go to prom...but I guess that's something else...I also find it hard to believe that you as a parent would go way out for a 5th grade graduation, it's like saying I know you ain't gon' graduate from highschool so do it up...I don't get it...

if the school gave a 2 ticket minimum for each students the venue in which they had the graduation definitely should've been large enough to hold the people...but a 1000 people come on now...who would've thunk it....

[melodic]

This incident is silly. Nobody is innocent here except for the graduating students. When it's time for a loved one to graduate, everybody and their pet hamster wants to show up. There are several ways this incident could have been avoided: hold two graduation ceremonies one after the other; Or 2,simply put, holding the graduation in a larger space. The middle school I work in had 2 graduations ceremonies to accommodate the students, teachers/staff, and families. and of course, there were parents who wanted to rush in for seating, but our PTA president being the down to earth/ sweet person she is, was able to tone down the "tension" that could have brewed..
But honestly, it has a lot to do with how people deal with the pressure. Unfortunately Some school safety guards are quick to make decisions that could lead to bigger problems.(I've seen minor incidents that require school safety intervention turn ugly) That ceremony could have turned into a stampede, and that wouldn't be pretty.

[Fletch]

Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Discogoddess:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ms Rickey X:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Discogoddess:
Okay, beyond the mess of the violence, what's with 5th graders having graduation and a prom? Aren't they still in grammar school? Maybe I'm not hip to the new style...please enlighten me.

graemlins/conf44.gif they go on to middle school...then junior high...then high school... </font>[/QUOTE]I've had a growing sinking feeling in my stomach about the importance some people place on milestones like this. My guess is that folk place greater emphasis on grammar school and junior high graduations because these ceremonies might be the first and only time families will see their kids in caps and gowns and/or dressed up in evening attire (prom).

As for the stupidity of the grown azz people at the ceremony who though violence was a reasonable action: WTF can you really say? The evening is certainly a teaching tool, but my guess is that many of the kids will pick up the lesson that this kind of behavior is acceptable, rather than the opposite. I'm sure one of these geniuses will want to sue the school for having the ceremony in a smaller venue. </font>[/QUOTE]I find it hard to believe that parents are engaging in allowing their 5th grade child to go to prom...but I guess that's something else...I also find it hard to believe that you as a parent would go way out for a 5th grade graduation, it's like saying I know you ain't gon' graduate from highschool so do it up...I don't get it...

if the school gave a 2 ticket minimum for each students the venue in which they had the graduation definitely should've been large enough to hold the people...but a 1000 people come on now...who would've thunk it.... </font>[/QUOTE]At PS 23 in Brooklyn, we didn't have proms, but we did have a party in the gym right after the graduation ceremony (6th grade). I do believe that post-ceremony parties are appropriate, as opposed to full-fledged proms.

Still remember Curtis Blow blastin' through the speakers" on June 12, 1980:

Cause there are the breaks
break it up, break it up, breakdown!

[Koffy Brown]

Oh yea a 6th grade party is definitely acceptable...