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The Buddy Love Show
04-27-2003, 04:39 PM
ask the hiphop playas...white audiences (especially female) are driving their success and taking themup and out of the ghetto....

i was spinning last nite for such an audience and ALL they wanted was rap music PERIOD...and they are driving a dollar delivery to the venue (and ultimately the promoters and myself) that is outrageous...the love of the music is driving 50K bar reciepts on some of my nites..

from rap to ktu to bloomies, record sales and fashion to event coordination these broads are a driving force ($$$$$)

if ya know like i know ya best add some cream to dat coffee

then again, i'm a mercenary

mo money mo money mo money

HML
04-27-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
ask the hiphop playas...white audiences (especially female) are driving their success and taking themup and out of the ghetto....

i was spinning last nite for such an audience and ALL they wanted was rap music PERIOD...and they are driving a dollar delivery to the venue (and ultimately the promoters and myself) that is outrageous...the love of the music is driving 50K bar reciepts on some of my nites..

from rap to ktu to bloomies, record sales and fashion to event coordination these broads are a driving force ($$$$$)

if ya know like i know ya best add some cream to dat coffee

then again, i'm a mercenary

mo money mo money mo money LOL!! graemlins/grinyes.gif I gotta give it to you Buddy, you always tell it straight! graemlins/respekt.gif There's a lot of truth in the above statements... In the music and club industries, if you wanna make ends, you have to appeal to those who have money AND and are willing to spend it!!!

-HML

The Buddy Love Show
04-27-2003, 08:17 PM
just tryin to get paid...

on the same note there was an article in NY Magazine a few months back which addressed the issue of women (basically white women) who were paying out enormous sums to personal trainers, yoga teachers, personal shoppers and massage therapists in order to have those luxuries and to have a non sexually threatening man in their life (basically on call emergency dick)

these cats were raking in six figure incomes

jerzeeee h christ

HML
04-27-2003, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
just tryin to get paid...

on the same note there was an article in NY Magazine a few months back which addressed the issue of women (basically white women) who were paying out enormous sums to personal trainers, yoga teachers, personal shoppers and massage therapists in order to have those luxuries and to have a non sexually threatening man in their life (basically on call emergency dick)

these cats were raking in six figure incomes

jerzeeee h christ Oh HAIL yeah!! These high income females are harvesting plenty of corn and have mega-amounts of disposable cash! They don't hesitate to pamper themselves with luxuries that the average Joan could only dream of! I ain't mad at 'em though!! I just wish I could get a little piece of that change!! You ever watch To Live and Date in NYC on Metro? Man, the women on that program are livin' so large its just plain ridiculous... :rolleyes:

Peace,
HML

[ April 28, 2003, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: HML ]

richierich
04-28-2003, 07:32 AM
Shut up already with your stupid posts...need a white woman for what???

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by richierich:
Shut up already with your stupid posts...need a white woman for what??? kiss my entire ass - i mean her

as for you, eat the peanuts outta my shit - ya don't like my topics don't read em - or is someone twisting your arm?

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by richierich:
Shut up already with your stupid posts...need a white woman for what??? ps ...i'm sure you'd take any woman you could get...ewe know?

Fletch
04-28-2003, 07:44 AM
Another public service announcement from your idol, Buddy Love.

[ April 28, 2003, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: einnod23 ]

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 07:47 AM
hey as the broads will tell ya, service is my middle name - now let me go ice my tool down - hard weekend ya know

Martin Red
04-28-2003, 08:04 AM
Do they have to be white ? is it just the white females who are making cash in New York ?

Leslie
04-28-2003, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
Do they have to be white ? is it just the white females who are making cash in New York ? Ahhh - YES.

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
Do they have to be white ? is it just the white females who are making cash in New York ? Of course they don't have to be white....but the truth is thatSWFs in this city have a huge disposable income at the ready and are being catered to by innumerable sources from spas to clubs to department stores and to the rap industry..Puffy is a millionaire today because he has catered to this audience and his tracks are on their lips in the form of requests and in their minds cause they know all the lyrics

Savvy niteclubs are going after this trendy demographic with constant renovations and offerings of drinks and other amenities

its business yo

get me a vanilla dream girl with lots of $$$$$$ a full rolodex and boomin T&A and my ass will be set


JERZEEEEE

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 08:13 AM
for example

check out www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

the owner of this site is a BLACK dude who has been doing it in NYC for a while now....the support he got has allowed him to now be in nyc, la and miami

lawdy lawd....wheres da white women?

Bill Blake
04-28-2003, 08:19 AM
See Ive always had this idea of taking Mel’s White Lines and changing the Chorus to ‘White Girls, going through my mind…….’ (Sing it to yourself right now and just feel the catchy-ness) with some shit like that and change the lyrics about em….blow up and make mad money.

Hip hop tune about how cool white girls are= mad mad mad mad money.

Im always thinking yo.

Drrtynewyork
04-28-2003, 08:19 AM
i love vanilla

Bill Blake
04-28-2003, 08:21 AM
But then a hip hop tune about how much of a bunch of bitches they are by some thugged out guy might even = more more more mad mad mad mad mad mad money.

Who loves abuse?

Drrtynewyork
04-28-2003, 08:24 AM
jamie lennox = vanilla ice fan club president

Bill Blake
04-28-2003, 08:27 AM
"The more I see the more I do"

****! Im a genius!

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
See Ive always had this idea of taking Mel’s White Lines and changing the Chorus to ‘White Girls, going through my mind…….’ (Sing it to yourself right now and just feel the catchy-ness) with some shit like that and change the lyrics about em….blow up and make mad money.

Hip hop tune about how cool white girls are= mad mad mad mad money.

Im always thinking yo. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...have you copywritten that?

Fletch
04-28-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
for example

check out www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

the owner of this site is a BLACK dude who has been doing it in NYC for a while now....the support he got has allowed him to now be in nyc, la and miami

lawdy lawd....wheres da white women? You forgot, thast website has a Vegas link.

Martin Red
04-28-2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
for example

check out www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

the owner of this site is a BLACK dude who has been doing it in NYC for a while now....the support he got has allowed him to now be in nyc, la and miami

lawdy lawd....wheres da white women? http://www.allnightclubs.com/images/gloriavelez/globoard.jpg
Being a female emcee is a tough gig, period. Being a doll and having done many videos, Gloria has made the choice of being an emcee hers. After going into meetings with some record execs (none will be named for their protection), many could only look and not listen. And it wasn’t until 2002 when she signed with producer Ty Fyffe’s production company, TyBu Entertainment, (whose clients include Ja Rule, LL Cool J, Foxy Brown, Jay Z, and Fat Joe) and worked side by side with him to create her image, style, and CD. Then the execs really listened. Ty was able to land Gloria a deal with Darkchild (Producer Rodney Jerkins Label).

SOURCE = www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

Im wondering, I wonder if she's any good on the mic
:rolleyes:

[ April 28, 2003, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by einnod23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
for example

check out www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

the owner of this site is a BLACK dude who has been doing it in NYC for a while now....the support he got has allowed him to now be in nyc, la and miami

lawdy lawd....wheres da white women? You forgot, thast website has a Vegas link. </font>[/QUOTE]yeah but you see the bazoombas on that cover model....tell me you'd throw her outta bed

mmmmmmmm vanilla mammarypies

Martin Red
04-28-2003, 08:43 AM
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/99042303a/D033_t.jpg
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/99042303a/D026_t.jpg
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/455042403a/D003_t.jpg
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/99042103a/D043_t.jpg

Gives the site more balance I suppose :eek:

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 08:43 AM
DAMN am i always right or what

even as i spout this that site has a cover story on Sean Combs....y'all cats better recognize

"first ya get the money, then ya get the power and then ya get the pussy"...and a good white woman in your corner at the kickooff don't hurt either

[ April 28, 2003, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: your idol, Buddy Love ]

Martin Red
04-28-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
DAMN am i always right or what

even as i spout this that site has a cover story on Sean Combs....y'all cats better recognize

"first ya get the money, then ya get the power and then ya get the pussy"...and a good white woman in your corner at the kickooff don't hurt either http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/270042503a/D039_t.jpg
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/455042403a/D048_t.jpg

Drrtynewyork
04-28-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
for example

check out www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

the owner of this site is a BLACK dude who has been doing it in NYC for a while now....the support he got has allowed him to now be in nyc, la and miami

lawdy lawd....wheres da white women? http://www.allnightclubs.com/images/gloriavelez/globoard.jpg
Being a female emcee is a tough gig, period. Being a doll and having done many videos, Gloria has made the choice of being an emcee hers. After going into meetings with some record execs (none will be named for their protection), many could only look and not listen. And it wasn’t until 2002 when she signed with producer Ty Fyffe’s production company, TyBu Entertainment, (whose clients include Ja Rule, LL Cool J, Foxy Brown, Jay Z, and Fat Joe) and worked side by side with him to create her image, style, and CD. Then the execs really listened. Ty was able to land Gloria a deal with Darkchild (Producer Rodney Jerkins Label).

SOURCE = www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

Im wondering, I wonder if she's any good on the mic
:rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]what mic are you talking about?? lollol who cares she look good mmmmmmmm

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/99042303a/D033_t.jpg
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/99042303a/D026_t.jpg
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/455042403a/D003_t.jpg
http://64.239.33.208/i/gallery/99042103a/D043_t.jpg

Gives the site more balance I suppose :eek: oh he most definitely covers the jiggy black parties tooo - the common denominator = DA PAPER

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 08:52 AM
another black dude who realizes the value of some good white women - Sean Michaels who has taken interracial sex and made himself a MAJOR player in the porn industry a feat unheard of for a black man

WHERE'S DA WHITE WUMMIN I SAY?

Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand
04-28-2003, 09:35 AM
You like startin stuff don't ya? I ain't biting, everyone knows that you like to kick off some mornings with a crazy topic. All I can say is graemlins/spanka.gif , Oh wait you'll probably like it graemlins/conf44.gif

The Buddy Love Show
04-28-2003, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by DiscoLady:
You like startin stuff don't ya? I ain't biting, everyone knows that you like to kick off some mornings with a crazy topic. All I can say is graemlins/spanka.gif , Oh wait you'll probably like it graemlins/conf44.gif "women beat their men...the men beat on their....."

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 08:16 AM
heard a commercial this morning for the woman who epitomizes my hypothesis:

Oprah Winfrey

she's damn near a billionaire playing to the concerns and pleasures of white women in America

mhd
04-29-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
heard a commercial this morning for the woman who epitomizes my hypothesis:

Oprah Winfrey

she's damn near a billionaire playing to the concerns and pleasures of white women in America bingo

DJ George Bates
04-29-2003, 02:48 PM
You know... there's a formula for club success that some one once told me...:

1. Get white women to come to the club..they will dance with or without men and have a good time.

2.get white men.. they will come where the hottest white women are...and spend money at the bar buying them drinks...

3. gay men are next.. they typically make a few dollars and will dance and party like there's no tomorrow !

4. Black women... they love gay men and they will dance with them or each other....

5. black men...they will come where ever the party is reputed to be " live " and will spend their money on women ...period.

These are not my own personal views but those of someone who has done this for a long time ...what do you think?????
graemlins/conf44.gif

LEONARD REMIX RROY
04-29-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
DAMN am i always right or what

even as i spout this that site has a cover story on Sean Combs....y'all cats better recognize

"first ya get the money, then ya get the power and then ya get the pussy"...and a good white woman in your corner at the kickooff don't hurt either With all due respect (none) Sir, You are a Douchbag.
graemlins/lol.gif

Keith Blackstone
04-29-2003, 02:54 PM
I smell an experiment...

LEONARD REMIX RROY
04-29-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
another black dude who realizes the value of some good white women - Sean Michaels who has taken interracial sex and made himself a MAJOR player in the porn industry a feat unheard of for a black man

WHERE'S DA WHITE WUMMIN I SAY? Still a Douchbag

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by LEONARD REMIX RROY:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
DAMN am i always right or what

even as i spout this that site has a cover story on Sean Combs....y'all cats better recognize

"first ya get the money, then ya get the power and then ya get the pussy"...and a good white woman in your corner at the kickooff don't hurt either With all due respect (none) Sir, You are a Douchbag.
graemlins/lol.gif </font>[/QUOTE]you have no respect for me yet here you are reading my threads...what kind of an asshole would read shit he don't respect from peeps he don't respect - case in point; i stopped reading the ny post years ago cause i don't respect them ...it's so easy to do you just stop reading

but i can understand how some peeps need to hurl invective at me in order to make their miserable little lives complete, and thats cool too as it shows i give purpose to even the most dimwitted amongst us

by the way, you spelled douch(e)bag wrong - but then again you didn't know the meaning of obtuse either (angle?!!!, how verbally limited are you?) so vocabulary isn't your strong point either

now get off the dick

[ April 29, 2003, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: your idol, Buddy Love ]

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by LEONARD REMIX RROY:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
another black dude who realizes the value of some good white women - Sean Michaels who has taken interracial sex and made himself a MAJOR player in the porn industry a feat unheard of for a black man

WHERE'S DA WHITE WUMMIN I SAY? Still a Douchbag </font>[/QUOTE]sir...if ya wanna call me names at least be able to spell what you wanna call me...i have enough trouble with your babbling inanities without having too decipher you when you're trying to be insulting.......next time stick with words that are befitting of your mental level...like calling me icky or poopoohead

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
heard a commercial this morning for the woman who epitomizes my hypothesis:

Oprah Winfrey

she's damn near a billionaire playing to the concerns and pleasures of white women in America bingo </font>[/QUOTE]next on deck

B Smith

cats better recognize that we are an economy that is largely based around service from legal and banking to shopping and fitness...and the target audiences are those with the most disposable income

due to the struggles of black people the biggest recipients of the benefits of affirmative action have been WHITE WOMEN whose incomes have grown tremendously in the last three decades......

too bad i'm so incendiary...i'm dropping game and numbnuts are getting peeved...then again we always need cannon fodder

mhd
04-29-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
heard a commercial this morning for the woman who epitomizes my hypothesis:

Oprah Winfrey

she's damn near a billionaire playing to the concerns and pleasures of white women in America bingo </font>[/QUOTE]next on deck

B Smith

cats better recognize that we are an economy that is largely based around service from legal and banking to shopping and fitness...and the target audiences are those with the most disposable income

due to the struggles of black people the biggest recipients of the benefits of affirmative action have been WHITE WOMEN whose incomes have grown tremendously in the last three decades......

too bad i'm so incendiary...i'm dropping game and numbnuts are getting peeved...then again we always need cannon fodder </font>[/QUOTE]B Smith is definitely stepping into the role that Oprah and Martha Stewart pioneered, more power to her. And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.

keep dropping knowledge, more people read and agree with a lot of it and those that don't are hung up on the delivery

Fletch
04-29-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
heard a commercial this morning for the woman who epitomizes my hypothesis:

Oprah Winfrey

she's damn near a billionaire playing to the concerns and pleasures of white women in America bingo </font>[/QUOTE]next on deck

B Smith

cats better recognize that we are an economy that is largely based around service from legal and banking to shopping and fitness...and the target audiences are those with the most disposable income

due to the struggles of black people the biggest recipients of the benefits of affirmative action have been WHITE WOMEN whose incomes have grown tremendously in the last three decades......

too bad i'm so incendiary...i'm dropping game and numbnuts are getting peeved...then again we always need cannon fodder </font>[/QUOTE]B Smith is definitely stepping into the role that Oprah and Martha Stewart pioneered, more power to her. And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.

keep dropping knowledge, more people read and agree with a lot of it and those that don't are hung up on the delivery </font>[/QUOTE]More power to her, but I got to call it: B Smith's food is WACK!!!!!!! She sure aint cookin' for people of color.

TAC
04-29-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by einnod23:
More power to her, but I got to call it: B Smith's food is WACK!!!!!!! She sure aint cookin' for people of color. Have you eaten at both restaurants? IMO, the food at her DC joint is tight...

Peace
TAC

Fletch
04-29-2003, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by einnod23:
More power to her, but I got to call it: B Smith's food is WACK!!!!!!! She sure aint cookin' for people of color. Have you eaten at both restaurants? IMO, the food at her DC joint is tight...

Peace
TAC </font>[/QUOTE]Alright, I should check the DC spot. The New York joint is not all that. And I went quite a few times. Unless she got a new chef. I hope she does blow up like Martha, though. Just come correct with the stocks and mutuals. Rembember, there are TWO stikes against her...

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by einnod23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by einnod23:
More power to her, but I got to call it: B Smith's food is WACK!!!!!!! She sure aint cookin' for people of color. Have you eaten at both restaurants? IMO, the food at her DC joint is tight...

Peace
TAC </font>[/QUOTE]Alright, I should check the DC spot. The New York joint is not all that. And I went quite a few times. Unless she got a new chef. I hope she does blow up like Martha, though. Just come correct with the stocks and mutuals. Rembember, there are TWO stikes against her... </font>[/QUOTE]hey bro...you also might have been in her nyc spot after she relinquished control to another group who were allowed to use the name for 2 years....

she also has a place in the hamptons

Fletch
04-29-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
[QUOTE]

she also has a place in the hamptons Damn.

Looks like another comment from Chris from the Sopranos:

"Meetings with Whitney Houston?
Nice hotel?
House in the Hamptons?
Yo, them moolies got it goin' on".

[ April 29, 2003, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: einnod23 ]

TAC
04-29-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by einnod23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by einnod23:
More power to her, but I got to call it: B Smith's food is WACK!!!!!!! She sure aint cookin' for people of color. Have you eaten at both restaurants? IMO, the food at her DC joint is tight...

Peace
TAC </font>[/QUOTE]Alright, I should check the DC spot. The New York joint is not all that. And I went quite a few times. Unless she got a new chef. I hope she does blow up like Martha, though. Just come correct with the stocks and mutuals. Rembember, there are TWO stikes against her... </font>[/QUOTE]Just as I thought. I didin't want to jump to conclusions but the NY place was always iffty. The DC restaurant is a nice place. IF your down there give it a try.

Peace
TAC

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by einnod23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:



she also has a place in the hamptons Damn.

Looks like another comment from Chris from the Sopranos:

"Meetings with Whitney Houston?
Nice hotel?
House in the Hamptons?
Yo, them moolies got it goin' on". </font>there are a lot of peeps who are prospering by catering to a certain demographic; namely swf between 18 - 35..these women are having fewer children and have a large amount of discretionary dollars to spend

a mo could find himself rich

TAD
04-29-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by mhd:
And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.but will they, and are they? and if white women are their choice group, are they the ones that are benefitting more NOW? if so when will Oprah make enough dollars to change that?

also this marketing strategy by Black entrepeneurs that places emphasis on white dollars first. is this a conscious effort to reap the rewards of upwardly mobile whites in order to bring back to the community, or is it a survival of the fittest move that focuses on the me & not the we?

TAD
04-29-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
i have enough trouble with your babbling inanities without having "too"decipher you when you're trying to be insulting.......next time stick with words that are befitting of your mental level...like calling me icky or poopoohead...... at least be able to spell....me "too" poopoohead graemlins/tongueout.gif

too=to

Gman does poopoohead count as an insult? graemlins/rofl.gif

Pete Nice
04-29-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.but will they, and are they? and if white women are their choice group, are they the ones that are benefitting more NOW? if so when will Oprah make enough dollars to change that?

also this marketing strategy by Black entrepeneurs that places emphasis on white dollars first. is this a conscious effort to reap the rewards of upwardly mobile whites in order to bring back to the community, or is it a survival of the fittest move that focuses on the me & not the we? </font>[/QUOTE]it's usaully just about me and not we
:(

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 07:56 PM
Oprah employs a lot of blacks..makes movies about blacks (giving further employment to writers and directors) funds scholarships for blacks..etc...she has done more than her share

and most of all she is a role model...her success has helped blacks galore

as far as the argument of chasing white dollars...given the fact that most businesses in the world are white owned we are ALL in one way or another chasing white dollars - whether it be working FOR whites as a peon or as an alternative choice for their spending dollar its all the same

i myself prefer the latter as it allows me some small amount of individual control of by destiny through entrepeneurship

The Buddy Love Show
04-29-2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.but will they, and are they? and if white women are their choice group, are they the ones that are benefitting more NOW? if so when will Oprah make enough dollars to change that?

also this marketing strategy by Black entrepeneurs that places emphasis on white dollars first. is this a conscious effort to reap the rewards of upwardly mobile whites in order to bring back to the community, or is it a survival of the fittest move that focuses on the me & not the we? </font>[/QUOTE]as for the second part of your question, i think it merits serious discussion. i would hope that blacks who acquire wealth thru catering to mostly white audiences don't acquire so much green that they forget to give back and help others from their roots.....but on the other hand is this a requirement?...further still does the success of one member of the community confer its own benefits to the community by making others aspire to the same greatness (a la tiger woods or reggie lewis [to all the numbnuts - i don't mean the basketball player]) and allowing others to see us differently?

i think that there are some who reach out and do a lot of good with their newfound wealth, tiger, oprah, david robinson, marcus camby, spike lee and so many more...the comment that its about self is so untrue

sure their are cats who forget but they are overshadowed by those who do give back

questions

thanks for spurring some thoughts

mhd
04-29-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by square root:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.but will they, and are they? and if white women are their choice group, are they the ones that are benefitting more NOW? if so when will Oprah make enough dollars to change that?

also this marketing strategy by Black entrepeneurs that places emphasis on white dollars first. is this a conscious effort to reap the rewards of upwardly mobile whites in order to bring back to the community, or is it a survival of the fittest move that focuses on the me & not the we? </font>[/QUOTE]it's usaully just about me and not we
:( </font>[/QUOTE]wrong

mhd
04-29-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.but will they, and are they? and if white women are their choice group, are they the ones that are benefitting more NOW? if so when will Oprah make enough dollars to change that?

also this marketing strategy by Black entrepeneurs that places emphasis on white dollars first. is this a conscious effort to reap the rewards of upwardly mobile whites in order to bring back to the community, or is it a survival of the fittest move that focuses on the me & not the we? </font>[/QUOTE]that's always the question with black business. as for oprah, she brought to screen novels by gloria naylor and toni morrison, she also hired cheryl mills from the white house counsel's office over at oxygen, just a few examples. problem is, we can never do enough. good part is we always have access.

going after the mainstream dollar is always a good strategy, but don't sleep on the black dollar, its very loyal

The Buddy Love Show
04-30-2003, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by mhd:

going after the mainstream dollar is always a good strategy, but don't sleep on the black dollar, its very loyal just azzz deep inside women are all pink...da paper is ALL green

i aint discriminatin

just going thru targets in sequential order

Balactus
04-30-2003, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
See Ive always had this idea of taking Mel’s White Lines and changing the Chorus to ‘White Girls, going through my mind…….’ (Sing it to yourself right now and just feel the catchy-ness) with some shit like that and change the lyrics about em….blow up and make mad money.

Hip hop tune about how cool white girls are= mad mad mad mad money.

Im always thinking yo. yo jamie

someone already did that there's a video for it i've seen on BET uncut latenite it's a pretty horrible song and the video looks like they made it with a camcorder. the white chicks in it are straight busted too they look like they just got off the greyhound from bumble**** falls Nebraska and tried to get into porn but were too busted. but the song is kinda funny.

w

Drrtynewyork
04-30-2003, 08:09 AM
ok this is getting to deep, just show some more white girls graemlins/beerchug.gif

The Buddy Love Show
04-30-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
ok this is getting to deep, just show some more white girls graemlins/beerchug.gif www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

that site is a fuggin flesh fiesta - and gots some black broads actin up in it too

The Buddy Love Show
04-30-2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
ok this is getting to deep, just show some more white girls graemlins/beerchug.gif www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

that site is a fuggin flesh fiesta - and gots some black broads actin up in it too </font>[/QUOTE]although the below might be more for your taste

WARNING PORNO LINK

http://www.blacksonblondes.tv/dogfart_movie_previews/dec02/december4th.shtml

Jamie 3:26
04-30-2003, 09:11 AM
I liked Oprah when she had a curl...sista used to be busted up.This is way before she blew up.She hosted AM Chicago.She even used to do Jerry Springer type shit.She's had pimps on there.She put Don Juan in the spotlite one show.

Drrtynewyork
04-30-2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
ok this is getting to deep, just show some more white girls graemlins/beerchug.gif www.allnightclubs.com (http://www.allnightclubs.com)

that site is a fuggin flesh fiesta - and gots some black broads actin up in it too </font>[/QUOTE]although the below might be more for your taste

WARNING PORNO LINK

http://www.blacksonblondes.tv/dogfart_movie_previews/dec02/december4th.shtml </font>[/QUOTE]hooooooooo.. www.necrohiphop.com!!!lol (http://www.necrohiphop.com!!!lol)

TAD
05-01-2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
Oprah employs a lot of blacks..makes movies about blacks (giving further employment to writers and directors) funds scholarships for blacks..etc...she has done more than her share

and most of all she is a role model...her success has helped blacks galore

as far as the argument of chasing white dollars...given the fact that most businesses in the world are white owned we are ALL in one way or another chasing white dollars - whether it be working FOR whites as a peon or as an alternative choice for their spending dollar its all the same

i myself prefer the latter as it allows me some small amount of individual control of by destiny through entrepeneurship While I have no doubt that oprah does in fact employ blacks, funds scholarships (so do many whites) I would argue that she has not done more than her share. I have a problem with the amount of money extremely successful people, black & white, keep for themselves. The level of excess exceeds human comprehension. There is no reason people should own 6 mansions while millions starve. It is a fact that something like 90% of the wealth is in the hands of only 3% of the population. I would imagine oprah is in the 3%. This is insanity & will lead to our eventual self-destruction. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Man has outdone himself, he’s at the point of no return & nothing can stop the tsunami. Evil will self-destruct, but unfortunately the weak & helpless will be catch the most hell.

I think the responsibility towards the uplifting of any community ultimately lies in the hands of the wealthy. They are in a better position to provide what is necessary for its citizens to live in a peaceful & stress free environment, free from the burdens that underdeveloped urban centres provide. I think this is a requirement because it is the morally correct thing to do. It is the greater good & must be adhered to.

I also have a problem with the measuring stick people use to determine success. Happiness comes from peace of mind. It cannot be measured in dollars or status and I think that’s where things have to change if we are to evolve. Don’t get me wrong, I like money. money is good for good purposes & we all must exercise prudence & develop security where our livelihoods are concerned.

TAD
05-01-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
And with each dollar Oprah and B Smith make they are in position to do that much more for people of color.but will they, and are they? and if white women are their choice group, are they the ones that are benefitting more NOW? if so when will Oprah make enough dollars to change that?

also this marketing strategy by Black entrepeneurs that places emphasis on white dollars first. is this a conscious effort to reap the rewards of upwardly mobile whites in order to bring back to the community, or is it a survival of the fittest move that focuses on the me & not the we? </font>[/QUOTE]that's always the question with black business. as for oprah, she brought to screen novels by gloria naylor and toni morrison, she also hired cheryl mills from the white house counsel's office over at oxygen, just a few examples. problem is, we can never do enough. good part is we always have access.

going after the mainstream dollar is always a good strategy, but don't sleep on the black dollar, its very loyal </font>[/QUOTE]i would think a lot of people would like to do more but their hands are tied so to speak

The Buddy Love Show
05-01-2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
Oprah employs a lot of blacks..makes movies about blacks (giving further employment to writers and directors) funds scholarships for blacks..etc...she has done more than her share

and most of all she is a role model...her success has helped blacks galore

as far as the argument of chasing white dollars...given the fact that most businesses in the world are white owned we are ALL in one way or another chasing white dollars - whether it be working FOR whites as a peon or as an alternative choice for their spending dollar its all the same

i myself prefer the latter as it allows me some small amount of individual control of by destiny through entrepeneurship While I have no doubt that oprah does in fact employ blacks, funds scholarships (so do many whites) I would argue that she has not done more than her share. I have a problem with the amount of money extremely successful people, black & white, keep for themselves. The level of excess exceeds human comprehension. There is no reason people should own 6 mansions while millions starve. It is a fact that something like 90% of the wealth is in the hands of only 3% of the population. I would imagine oprah is in the 3%. This is insanity & will lead to our eventual self-destruction. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Man has outdone himself, he’s at the point of no return & nothing can stop the tsunami. Evil will self-destruct, but unfortunately the weak & helpless will be catch the most hell.

I think the responsibility towards the uplifting of any community ultimately lies in the hands of the wealthy. They are in a better position to provide what is necessary for its citizens to live in a peaceful & stress free environment, free from the burdens that underdeveloped urban centres provide. I think this is a requirement because it is the morally correct thing to do. It is the greater good & must be adhered to.

I also have a problem with the measuring stick people use to determine success. Happiness comes from peace of mind. It cannot be measured in dollars or status and I think that’s where things have to change if we are to evolve. Don’t get me wrong, I like money. money is good for good purposes & we all must exercise prudence & develop security where our livelihoods are concerned. </font>[/QUOTE]on this point our paths diverge...while i do have many socialist tendencies i am not on who believes we should soak the rich and make them responsible for everyone elses welfare....to do so would breed a class of human sheep who would have no ncentive for hard work or entrepeneurship

while i am for more progressive tax rates and wealthredistribution (mainly thru inheritance taxes and speculative investment gains) i don't feel we should go overboard with personal taxation

and remember..oprah was po...she made it, so can the next woman/man