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statuskuo
10-24-2003, 08:53 AM
hail.gif ^1000

Leslie
10-24-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by statuskuo:
hail.gif ^1000 Absolutely, I get very annoyed when I see those damn things.

And
10-24-2003, 09:05 AM
Pardons, I didn't see this thread before I started another one on the same subject. I'm with you on the praise. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

imported_Gman
10-24-2003, 09:42 AM
PLenty of them on Ebay if you would like to order one....

http://members.aol.com:/primitivejake/jockey.jpg

D J 1 3 8
10-24-2003, 09:42 AM
When I was growing up, the only people in my neighborhood who had one of these things in their driveway were black folks. At one point people even asked them to take it down but they refused. You see those things all over the South.

imported_Gman
10-24-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by DJ 138:
When I was growing up, the only people in my neighborhood who had one of these things in their driveway were black folks. At one point people even asked them to take it down but they refused. You see those things all over the South. I had read somewhere that they were "orignally" a symbol for slaves on the Underground railroad to follow. Thats probably why blacks folks collect them.

D J 1 3 8
10-24-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
When I was growing up, the only people in my neighborhood who had one of these things in their driveway were black folks. At one point people even asked them to take it down but they refused. You see those things all over the South. I had read somewhere that they were "orignally" a symbol for slaves on the Underground railroad to follow. Thats probably why blacks folks collect them. </font>[/QUOTE]Interesting. I've never heard that. I grew up in Cincinnati, which was the major hub of the underground railroad and considered the first safe city just north of Kentucky. A lot of people I knew growing up had hidden rooms and hidden cellars in their houses which had been used in the underground railroad. The whole history of the U.R. was mandatory curiculum in most elementary schools.

Jolyon
10-24-2003, 09:57 AM
Can someone explain to a Brit what those figures are/what people do with them/what they are supposed to represent?


Thanks.

mhd
10-24-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
Can someone explain to a Brit what those figures are/what people do with them/what they are supposed to represent?


Thanks. technically, you would ride up to a house and put the reins of your horse through the metal ring that the jockey has in its hand. this is a statue representing a stablehand slave that would hold the reins of your horse and take it to the stable once the rider got off the horse, now it is an insulting reminder of those times

Jolyon
10-24-2003, 10:04 AM
Thanks Mark...the pic makes more sense to me now.

[ October 24, 2003, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: Jolyon ]

Jolyon
10-24-2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by DJ 138:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
When I was growing up, the only people in my neighborhood who had one of these things in their driveway were black folks. At one point people even asked them to take it down but they refused. You see those things all over the South. I had read somewhere that they were "orignally" a symbol for slaves on the Underground railroad to follow. Thats probably why blacks folks collect them. </font>[/QUOTE]Interesting. I've never heard that. I grew up in Cincinnati, which was the major hub of the underground railroad and considered the first safe city just north of Kentucky. A lot of people I knew growing up had hidden rooms and hidden cellars in their houses which had been used in the underground railroad. The whole history of the U.R. was mandatory curiculum in most elementary schools. </font>[/QUOTE]Again...I know nothing about the underground railroad. I'll do some googling. Thanks for this thread.

Leslie
10-24-2003, 10:08 AM
Also, you will see some of them holding lanterns. This was to symbolize when slaves would hold lanterns waiting for the slave owner or guests who where coming to the house late at night. I suppose they were left to stand out there all night since its not as though slaves had time pieces or clocks as it was illegal for them to read/write, etc..

As for the piece about them being a symbol along the underground railroad I honestly had never heard that but then again it could have been different symbols used in different parts along the line, so I won't say it ain't so just yet. We all know about the quilts and how they used the stars as guides, I suppose anything could have been used in an effort to thwart the efforts of those trying to recapture runaway slaves.

Leslie
10-24-2003, 10:12 AM
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/railroad/

and

http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/underground/

and

http://www.undergroundrailroad.org/

mhd
10-24-2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Leslie:
Also, you will see some of them holding lanterns. This was to symbolize when slaves would hold lanterns waiting for the slave owner or guests who where coming to the house late at night. I suppose they were left to stand out there all night since its not as though slaves had time pieces or clocks as it was illegal for them to read/write, etc..

As for the piece about them being a symbol along the underground railroad I honestly had never heard that but then again it could have been different symbols used in different parts along the line, so I won't say it ain't so just yet. We all know about the quilts and how they used the stars as guides, I suppose anything could have been used in an effort to thwart the efforts of those trying to recapture runaway slaves. les, break it down about the quilts, that is a fascinating story

Leslie
10-24-2003, 10:19 AM
The Underground Railroad
and the Use of Quilts
as Messengers for Fleeing Slaves
by Kimberly Wulfert, PhD




The Underground Railroad and the Use of Quilts as Messengers for Fleeing Slaves
by Kimberly Wulfert, PhD

To many of us, the use of quilts as messengers on the Underground Railroad (UGRR) is a myth. It cannot be proven through recorded historical documents or defendable oral history. It is a concept that seemed to descend on the quilt world in the late 1990s, following the publication of, "Hidden in Plain View" (HIPV), written by two professors: J. Tobin and R. Dobard, PhD. In this book, Tobin and Dobard relate a story about this topic, based on the words of a woman who spoke to Ms. Tobin in the early 1990s. The woman said it was a secret and orally passed-down bit of black history, but a true fact, that quilts were made in certain colors and patterns in order to give directions, in a broad sense, to the slaves fleeing on the Underground Railroad. She said the quilts hung on the porches and drying lines of sympathetic houses along the figurative underground railroad.

Tobin and Dobard relayed this story in their 1998 book, which did not come out until a short time after the woman's death. Yet, the 1998 publication was four years after Tobin was told the story in person by the woman, Ozella McDaniel Williams; she was the only provider of information upon which this book's story is based. Hence, since drawing conclusions of history, whether hard or soft, requires support from the literature -- and there is none found to date -- there has been an ongoing discussion of this use of quilts, ever since Tobin and Dobard's book came out.

The publication also paralleled the increasing requirements put on schools in the 1990s, to offer lessons in black history (a long overlooked aspect of our history). From the lower grades on up, students were learning about Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, William Still, Frederick Douglass, Quaker Francis D. Pastorius (a Caucasian who, in 1688, was the first to write on anti-slavery in the Colonies), and other influential black Americans, in connection with the Underground Railroad and anti-slavery activities,.

In 2001, a respected authority on the UGRR, Giles R. Wright, a Black American (which is the term he uses), did a critique of the book. He has graciously given me permission to discuss his critique and quote him for this article. In addition, he provided me a version of the critique newer than the one available on the Web.1 Mr. Wright states he is determined to dispense facts about the UGRR, since it is being distorted and misrepresented of late.

Giles R. Wright also authored, "Afro-Americans in New Jersey: A Short History." 2 Mr. Wright is Director of the Afro-American History Program of the New Jersey Historical Commission, in Trenton, NJ. He conducted the most extensive research project ever done on New Jersey's UGRR heritage. This study was legislated and funded by New Jersey State legislators. Information was gathered with the help of historical societies in Ohio and New Jersey, libraries, Rutgers University, cultural heritage communities, and the like. From the cumulative research, the NJ Historical Commission published the booklet, "Steal Away…A Guide to the Underground Railroad in New Jersey," 3 written by Mr. Wright, and Edward Lama Wonkeryor (the coordinator of the project).

Regarding the use of quilts to send messages along the railroad, Wright told the Camden County Historical Society, in June 2001,4 the following about HIPV: It is "sheer conjecture and speculation that greatly misrepresents black history, it is nonsense and a perfect example of what those of us who are attempting to do serious Underground Railroad Research are up against."

He believes the book has sold well because it is a very appealing idea. I would agree with him on this and note that the popularity appears to be amongst non-quilters and quiltmakers not particularly interested or knowledgeable about the history of quilts. I have had the same impression after talking to elementary school and quilt shop teachers. And, the women I have spoken with are good-intentioned. The schoolteachers think the children will enjoy learning about mid-19th Century Black History in America, and the period surrounding the Civil War, when 'messages in quilts' is the leading perspective. Classroom visuals are easy, children's books are readily available on the subject, and assignments to reproduce the patterns (as shown in the quilt books they use, HIPV, and children's books) are simple and fun to do, using crayons and paper or fabric.

Quilt shop teachers have the class ready-made for them when using the patterns identified in HIPV. Additionally, these blocks are easy enough for beginners and are readily available as pre-drafted patterns in many how-to quilt books available today.

With all the reproduction fabrics on the market today, it is a wise 'business' decision for quilt shop owners to add this class in their schedule. Some quilters will make this quilt, while feeling a sense of history, or at the least, a connection to America's past that they do not feel while making Stack & Whack or other popular contemporary quilts of today. They soak up the information presented in the book, as they cut those patterns in class, while reading it at home, or while watching one of the authors discuss it on TV talk shows. Some leave with a sense that they have tapped into quilt history, a subject that seems intimidating on the surface to casual observers. They are thrilled to make the inroad and feel a part of the past. After the fact, they do not want to give up this tie with quilt history (especially if they have made the quilt), or the myth that brought the feeling of connection around.

I find those who are less involved are more open to the other viewpoint. When discussing the book's story and its feasibility, I begin with suggesting this scenario: Imagine a slave, who remained hidden as much as possible to avoid capture, punishment, or death, running up the front porch steps of a stranger's house to get a close look at the quilt. Imagine the time it took to search and see encoded messages in the quilt stitches, patterns, colors, and then note which way the motifs are pointing, in order to tell which way they were supposed to turn next.

The usual response is something like, "and didn't they usually run after dark, too?," as they remember there were no porch lights or modern lighting products, such as flash lights. And it would be nearly impossible to see the idiosyncrasies of the quilt, much less the quilt itself, as they pass by, hidden in the deep brush or trees.

The next skeptical viewpoint I offer for consideration is that had this messaging system taken place over which would have been a span of 31 years (the period of time the UGGR was running), do they not think that other people would have figured it out? The UGRR began in 1830, as the rise of the anti-slavery movement took effect, following the start of railroad transportation in 1829. And industrial spies have been around at least since the late 18th Century, when American textile businessmen sent them over to England to memorize their equipment and industry methods, in order to replicate them here. Legitimate acquisition of this information was against the law, as England wanted to keep the Colonies under their control, by having them purchase all they needed from them. It seems quite likely there were 'pro-slavery' spies on the UGRR, befriending the Abolitionists, to get the inside dynamics used on the railroad that was facilitating the flight of slaves.

If they (those who are less involved) are not convinced by then, I tell them the quilt patterns described in the book have not been found to date back as far as the early 1800s. I add that Barbara Brackman, a well-known pattern historian and research scholar in quilts made in association with the period before and during the Civil War, has found no supporting evidence or information in her research. This includes many diaries written at the time.

I end with my impression that of the quilt historians I have met and/or know, via the Quilt History List on the Internet, and via the professional organization for the study of quilt history, the American Quilt Study Group, there is no doubt that their only agenda is the historical facts. Were there any solid facts on this topic, these people would be the first to embrace them and dispense them in their teachings and writings.

It is a win-win situation when new information on quilt history is uncovered. To this same end, Mr. Wright is conducting his research by requesting any information someone has about local sites, safe havens, or people who participated in the UGRR activities in NJ. He will give it to the Historical Commission to investigate and derive an accurate history of the slaves and the sites participating on the route. His research goal is not quilt related per se, but the book aroused so much attention, he took time to read and access it as well.


His critique is entitled "Hidden in Plain View: The Secret Code Story of Quilts and the Underground Railroad." Mr. Wright felt compelled to write it because the book, "gives those who know very little about Black American history in general, and the UGRR in particular, a distorted view of this form of slave protest." He found, "many factual errors, ones that would never be made by even a novice in the field of African-American history." He states three in this critique, not quilt related, but about historical facts known about the UGRR. These are presented to support his rejection of the authors' expertise to write a book on this topic.

One of the factual errors occurs on page 62 of HIPV and concerns George Rawick.5 The book states that, as part of a WPA project in the 1930s, he compiled oral history interviews from former slaves. In fact, Rawick, a well-known slave historian, was not born until 1929.

Another factual error occurs on page 73, where the authors state Josiah Henson founded the Dawn settlement in the early 1800s. In fact, he fled to Canada in 1830. He, along with others, purchased land in Dawn Township and established the vocational school for slaves in 1841, and in fact, Henson is regarded as founder of Dresdan, established 13 years after the Dawn settlement.

Like B. Brackman, Mr. Wright remarks on the lack of corroborating historical evidence, saying, "The book offers no documentation for its thesis, relying instead on sheer conjecture and speculation in its lack of fidelity to historical truth."

While he does not discount the value oral histories can offer, my understanding of his contention is that documented research should be provided before asserting what someone said in private is enough proof to assert changing our understanding of the dynamics of communication used on the UGRR.

Speaking as a former PhD student myself, it is drummed into our heads, via the courses and dissertation, to think critically in evaluating research findings, and to pay close attention to assertions put forth without the support of hard facts or time-tested material findings accepted as facts today. The dissertation hypothesis should be just on the other side (as in a thread's width) of the facts. If the facts are absent, the research results are categorized as unreliable, faulty, or exploratory. In HIPV's case, I believe my dissertation committee members would have referred to the findings as anecdotal at best, and unworthy of their time or of granting a degree. There is one sentence where Dobard states that this book is not really research. I believe he may have (erroneously) called it exploratory research. (It is in the first 60 pages or so. I invite anyone who stills has the book in their library to email me the quote and page number to include for future readers.)

There are two obvious sources of possible documentation available to the authors, but these offer no support of their claims. The first is, "19th Century slave narratives." The others are 1930s oral testimonies taken from former slaves, such as the, classic UGRR studies of William Still (1872) 6 and Wilbur H. Siebert (1989) 7.

Due to the absence of similar information in these documents to that of the book's story, as told by Ozella Williams, Mr. Wright asks, "And why weren't others in this [Black community] in possession of the same oral tradition that Williams related? Isn't it likely that Williams was putting Tobin on? Williams story is nice and appealing, but it defies logic; and it doesn't stand up to close scrutiny."

The book's story focuses on fugitive slaves running from Charleston, SC, usually headed toward Cleveland, Ohio. Mr. Wright tells us that Black History research found most slaves headed in a northeasterly direction. There were essentially two corridors north - - one up the coast, the other inland. Slave inland states included Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi. The free inland states they escaped to were Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan. The coastal route included states along the Atlantic Coast, from which the slaves ran for freedom in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and Canada. He goes on to say it would seem logical the Charleston slaves would travel the coastal route, which is documented in Still's 1872 research on the routes taken by slaves leaving from SC. Mr. Wright, referring to HIPV's map on page 50, sees no route leading from Charleston to Cleveland, and he asks, "Why wouldn't Charleston UGRR runaways have taken a boat north, rather than heading for Cleveland across the Appalachian mountains?" Mr. Wright and others find very few slaves actually passed through, from the South; 30,000 -50,000 out of a total of 4 million in the US.

That means about 1% of all slaves escaped to the North, yet the premise of the book asserts this elaborate coding system was designed and put into quilts (which are time consuming to make, not to mention costly for some). Was the code only put on Charleston's quilts, as the book's authors, "are silent on the system's existence in other parts of the Antebellum South."

The book implies slaves made plans before their flight, including learning the 10-point quilt code. "Recent scholarship pertaining to fugitive slaves suggests that running away was much more complex than this, motivated as it was by various causes. In some cases fugitive slaves, out of necessity, ran away immediately."

Finally, "We are never told in HIPV who created the encoded quilt system. Who made the quilts and hung them? Was it other slaves? The book does not comment on the great risks for either group, another critical omission."

One final comment: I heard lately that Mr. Wright may be writing a book to refute the findings of HIPV. I checked with him and he replied, "I am not writing a book on NJ's UGRR at the present time." Let us not start any more myths.


References:

1 Giles Wright's Original Critique of HIPV
http://historiccamdencounty.com/ccnews11_doc_01a.shtml

2 Wright, Giles R., "Afro-Americans in New Jersey: A Short History." Trenton: New Jersey Historical commission, 1988. A brief overview and discussion of NJ's UGRR and map of main routes.

3 Wright, Giles R. and Edward Lama Wonkeryor, "Steal Away, Steal Away… A Guide to the Underground Railroad in New Jersey" New Jersey Historical Commission, NJ Dept. of State, Cultural Affairs, Trenton, NJ.

4 June 4, 2001, Historic Camden County News article by Hoag Levin, NEW JERSEY'S UNDERGROUND RAILROAD MYTH-BUSTER: Giles Wright is on a Mission to Fine Tune Black History
http://historiccamdencounty.com/ccnews11.shtml

5 Tobin, Jacqueline L. and Raymond G. Dobard, et al. "Hidden in Plain View: A Secret Story of Quilts and the Underground Railroad." Publisher of the hardback is Random House, 1998. Paperback version published by Bantam Doubleday Dell, 1999

6 Still, Williams, "The Underground Railroad." Reprint of the 1872 Study by Johnson Publishing Co. in 1970, Chicago. Stills uses his records for this study of fugitive slaves in Philadelphia, a major UGRR center.

7 Siebert, Wilbur H., "The Underground Railroad: From Slavery to Freedom" Reprint of the 1898 study by Arno Press & the NY Times in 1967. An early study of the overall operations of the UGRR, including the routes and operatives.

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When quiltmaker Ozella McDaniels told Jacqueline Tobin of the Underground Railroad Quilt Code, it sparked Tobin to place the tale within the history of the Underground Railroad. Hidden in Plain View documents Tobin and Raymond Dobard's journey of discovery, linking Ozella's stories to other forms of hidden communication from history books, codes, and songs. Each quilt, which could be laid out to air without arousing suspicion, gave slaves directions for their escape. Ozella tells Tobin how quilt patterns like the wagon wheel, log cabin, and shoofly signaled slaves how and when to prepare for their journey. Stitching and knots created maps, showing slaves the way to safety.
The authors construct history around Ozella's story, finding evidence in cultural artifacts like slave narratives, folk songs, spirituals, documented slave codes, and children's' stories. Tobin and Dobard write that "from the time of slavery until today, secrecy was one way the black community could protect itself. If the white man didn't know what was going on, he couldn't seek reprisals." Hidden in Plain View is a multilayered and unique piece of scholarship, oral history, and cultural exploration that reveals slaves as deliberate agents in their own quest for freedom even as it shows that history can sometimes be found where you least expect it. --Amy Wan --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.


The New York Times Book Review, Andrea Higbie
Jacqueline L. Tobin and Raymond G. Dobard present the fascinating theory that slaves created quilts coded with patterns to help one another flee to freedom. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.


Book Description
The fascinating story of a friendship, a lost tradition, and an incredible discovery, revealing how enslaved men and women made encoded quilts and then used them to navigate their escape on the Underground Railroad.

"A groundbreaking work."--Emerge

In Hidden in Plain View, historian Jacqueline Tobin and scholar Raymond Dobard offer the first proof that certain quilt patterns, including a prominent one called the Charleston Code, were, in fact, essential tools for escape along the Underground Railroad. In 1993, historian Jacqueline Tobin met African American quilter Ozella Williams amid piles of beautiful handmade quilts in the Old Market Building of Charleston, South Carolina. With the admonition to "write this down," Williams began to describe how slaves made coded quilts and used them to navigate their escape on the Underground Railroad. But just as quickly as she started, Williams stopped, informing Tobin that she would learn the rest when she was "ready." During the three years it took for Williams's narrative to unfold--and as the friendship and trust between the two women grew--Tobin enlisted Raymond Dobard, Ph.D., an art history professor and well-known African American quilter, to help unravel the mystery.

Part adventure and part history, Hidden in Plain View traces the origin of the Charleston Code from Africa to the Carolinas, from the low-country island Gullah peoples to free blacks living in the cities of the North, and shows how three people from completely different backgrounds pieced together one amazing American story.

Jolyon
10-24-2003, 10:24 AM
Fascinating. Thanks Leslie.

imported_Gman
10-24-2003, 10:32 AM
From Blakcvoices.com:

ALTON, ILLINOIS' UNDERGROUND NETWORK
Written by Barbara Morgan
(special for blackvoices.com)
We saw the quilt but we didn't know its significance. We saw the lawn jockey but we didn't know its significance either until we climbed down the creaky cellar stairs.



1816 - Basement Kitchen of the The Seward House. Part of the Underground Railroad, fleeing slaves hid in this kitchen.


Our guide, Eric Robinson asked one of the journalists in our group to wait outside until the rest of us were in the cellar. This done, he switched off the light then asked our colleague to join us. When she descended the stairs he asked her what she could see: "Nothing", she said. The cellar was pitch black and the small adjacent area was even darker. We would soon learn that it is highly probable that runaway slaves hid in this very cellar; that the quilt and the lawn jockey we saw upstairs were all- important anti-slavery symbols.

These and numerous other artifacts, photographs and memorabilia are part of the Alton Museum of History which was originally Shirtleff College, a one-time Baptist seminary. We soon learn that Alton was the site of an Underground Railroad network that ran the length of the Mississippi and was conducted by free Blacks.

Underground networks used various signs to designate who they were and for this Network, the sign was Jocko The Jockey. If Jocko held a lantern in his left hand, that was the code used to indicate a safe house. Other networks used pies cooling on the window pane or a quilt hanging outside. Others used plants to designate safe houses.

Charles Hunter was one of Alton's best known Underground Railroad conductors. A major developer, his Hunterstown area, founded in the 1830's, had many free Blacks as residents, some of whom were escaped slaves. Within a seven-block radius in Upper Alton alone, there are five Underground Railroad stations and most are private homes.

Other local groups actively involved in the anti-slavery movement were the AME and Baptist churches. Union Baptist Church and Campbell Chapel AME are among the oldest Black churches in Illinois. Both played major roles on the Underground Railroad. Priscilla Baltimore, one of Campbell Chapel's organizers is said to have been the "Harriet Tubman of Alton."

Alton's most famous and outspoken abolitionist was Elijah Lovejoy who moved to the community in 1837 to escape the harassment he experienced in St. Louis against his newspaper, the St. Louis Observer, a leading anti- slavery organ. The move to Alton proved to be fatal, because a few months relocating there, Lovejoy was shot and killed as he and several supporters tried to defend the Alton Observer printing press against a pro-slavery mob attack. The murder received national attention and the fearless editor continues to be revered as both an abolitionist and defender of a free press.

For tour information, contact:

J.E. Robinson Tours
Greater Alton/Twin Rivers
Convention and Visitors Bureau
200 Plasa Street
Alton, IL 62002
(618) 465-6676

Leslie
10-24-2003, 10:39 AM
Thanks Gman! See ya learn summin new eryday on the DHP! smile.gif

imported_Gman
10-24-2003, 10:41 AM
From Black Memorabilia: An African American Newsletter:


Perhaps no African-American collectibles garner more myth, lore, and misunderstanding than the cast-iron lawn figures and other images of black jockeys. According to one legend, the cast-iron figure originated with George Washington, who commissioned a statue of Tom Graves, his black groomsman who froze to death while holding the lantern that lighted the way for troops crossing the Delaware River. Eventually, the figures found use as hitching posts—and, according to some accounts, they served to alert fugitive slaves escaping north to Canada via the Underground Railroad whether a specific house was safe: a strip of green cloth tied to the hitching post meant welcome; red cloth was a warning to keep going.
But the jockey—unlike the groom, who was depicted wearing the tattered clothes of a slave—wore "silks," the colored jacket that identified a rider with his specific stable. The jockey thus served as a symbol of the stable owner’s wealth. Eventually the American middle class embraced these figurines, making them a common ornament on lawns throughout suburbia. In the 1960s, however, the ubiquitous figure was denounced as yet another offensive stereotype, an image of plantation servitude. As a result, black jockey figures were banished from the lawn to the garage or basement. If you see a lawn jockey today, chances are his face has been painted white.

Leslie
10-24-2003, 10:52 AM
Okay if we are to be fair here then...In my opinion (as shown by the picture Gman has posted), if these truly are symbols of the Underground Railroad, then why are the features so distorted as many of us have seen in racially insensitive dipictions of blacks in the past? Not really looking for an answer just making an observation.

imported_Gman
10-24-2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Leslie:
Okay if we are to be fair here then...In my opinion (as shown by the picture Gman has posted), if these truly are symbols of the Underground Railroad, then why are the features so distorted as many of us have seen in racially insensitive dipictions of blacks in the past? Not really looking for an answer just making an observation. Leslie, even though the Jockey may have been used at one time as a sign to let slaves know which houses were members of the underground railroad the question to be asked is what does it symbolize now.

Here's one for ya on EBAY:

SAMBO JOCKEY BLACK BOY AFRICAN LAWN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3248469466&category=29458

mhd
10-24-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Leslie:
Okay if we are to be fair here then...In my opinion (as shown by the picture Gman has posted), if these truly are symbols of the Underground Railroad, then why are the features so distorted as many of us have seen in racially insensitive dipictions of blacks in the past? Not really looking for an answer just making an observation. from what i read, the statues themselves were not symbols of the underground railroad, but they were used in a way to assist travellers by attaching specific colors to them. once again,we adapted a negative and used it to our advantage.
great thread, leslie and g!

sammyrock
10-24-2003, 02:46 PM
Another exellent painting by Linda M. Extrodinary gift.Bravo! Bravo! smile.gif

Bold Soul
10-24-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
Okay if we are to be fair here then...In my opinion (as shown by the picture Gman has posted), if these truly are symbols of the Underground Railroad, then why are the features so distorted as many of us have seen in racially insensitive dipictions of blacks in the past? Not really looking for an answer just making an observation. from what i read, the statues themselves were not symbols of the underground railroad, but they were used in a way to assist travellers by attaching specific colors to them. once again,we adapted a negative and used it to our advantage.
great thread, leslie and g! </font>[/QUOTE]INDEED! Thanks to everyone!

Fletch
10-24-2003, 04:06 PM
Good painting, good references, good points, and probably one of the best threads ever on DHP!

Only one problem: Linda herself needs to come on here and explain it, unless that's her using G's login (I thought she had her own). Too busy gettin' her serve on (another tennis tournament)? :D

G, yo turn to feed the cat! :D