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Martin Red
11-17-2003, 09:05 AM
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Bush security swings into action
Numbers of British police officers during the visit have risen to 14,000
An "unprecedented" security operation is under way ahead of President Bush's state visit to Britain.
Police say they have increased the number of officers on duty to 14,000 for the three days and hundreds of US special agents are already in the UK.
Prime Minister Tony Blair said on Monday he strongly believes it is the right time for Mr Bush to visit.
The Stop the War Coalition is meeting the police to discuss Thursday's march involving tens of thousands of people.
'Fantastic trip'
Responding to suggestions the visit was ill-timed, Mr Blair said: "Now is the right moment for us to stand firm with the US in defeating terrorism wherever it is.
"Now is not the time to waver, now is the time to see it through."
The heightened state of security has seen extra police at ports and airports and checking people arriving on Eurostar trains from France.
Scotland Yard is in overall charge of security for Mr Bush's visit - which begins on Tuesday - and on Monday said it had increased from 5,000 to 14,000 the number of officers it will have on the streets during the visit.
Mr Bush will also be protected by hundreds of armed guards from the US.
They will not be granted diplomatic immunity, and will be subject to the British legal system if they shoot anybody, the Home Office has promised.
'Opportunity'
Mr Bush has shrugged off the prospect of protests, saying he supports free speech and expects the trip to be "fantastic".
There is currently a stand-off between the police and the Stop the War Coalition over which roads can be included in the march.
The coalition insists protesters should be allowed through Whitehall and close to the Houses of Parliament, although that seems unlikely...............
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3275907.stm
Cheddar
11-17-2003, 09:08 AM
GWB will be there for how many days?
The 40 year anniversary of JFK Assassination is Saturday right?
May be the reason why security is so tight.
[ November 17, 2003, 09:09 AM: Message edited by: 1343 ]
ChiJAM
11-17-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
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Bush security swings into action
An "unprecedented" security operation is under way ahead of President Bush's state visit to Britain.
Australia had an "unprecedented" security operation when Bush visited some weeks ago, too. This man knows he is despised...In the US, they have "free speech zones", i.e., you're so far away his oblivious to your presence.
ChiJAM
Martin Red
11-17-2003, 09:24 AM
Cheers Chi Jam graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Originally posted by 1343:
GWB will be there for how many days?
The 40 year anniversary of JFK Assassination is Saturday right?
May be the reason why security is so tight. It's funny you mention JFK. They showed footage of JFK's visit women screaming etc, proper love, like at a Beatles concert.
Bush isn't gonna get JFK treatment, he's more likeley to get rotten eggs than kisses thrown at him, saying that, the crowd won't even get that close.
mdpm99
11-17-2003, 09:30 AM
Greetings Martin Red:
Thank you for posting this information. I am watching from over "hear" every detail re this.
I think the Brits can send a very strong and worthwhile message by standing up to this fool.
The British are much more passionate about their politics then the Americans.
I am hoping that this event will be peaceful and that it will provoke some people to wake the fok' up.
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Ps. We owe you big time. You are giving us a break as he will be away from here for few days graemlins/biglaugha.gif
Clarkeecat
11-17-2003, 09:33 AM
well there's that plan to organise mass moon-ings at old Dubyah.... I'm up for it!
did you see him on David Frost? It's all about freedom apparently....
Matthew
Martin Red
11-17-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by david mancuso:
Greetings Martin Red:
Thank you for posting this information. I am watching from over "hear" every detail re this.
I think the Brits can send a very strong and worthwhile message by standing up to this fool.
The British are much more passionate about their politics then the Americans.
I am hoping that this event will be peaceful and that it will provoke some people to wake the fok' up.
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Ps. We owe you big time. You are giving us a break as he will be away from here for few days graemlins/biglaugha.gif David, sounds like your advice is much like Mr Moores graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Michael Moore is also over here at the moment, Bowling for Columbine is running every night this week on Channel Four Film channel. Michael was asked in an interview at the weekend about Bush visit and he asked the British to protest, basically explained that some of USA need to be made aware on exactly how unpopular the president is overseas as well as how unpopular the war is , especailly in regards to allies.
Take my president, please ! graemlins/rofl5.gif
[ November 17, 2003, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]
mdpm99
11-17-2003, 10:07 AM
".......that some of USA need to be made aware on exactly how unpopular the president is overseas as well as how unpopular the war is , especailly in regards to allies."
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EXACTLY! And Bliar and Bu$h are like twins...if one goes than the other will too.
We need you all to send the message as only you can.
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Martin Red
11-17-2003, 10:07 AM
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UK National Demonstration
20
nov
Thursday 20th November
Assemble 2pm at Malet Street, Central London (nearest tubes: Goodge Street, Russell Square and Euston/Euston Sq). March to Trafalgar Square where a statue of George Bush will be pulled down. This event will continue until 7pm to allow for people coming from work.
If there is only one STOP BU$H event that you can make - this is the one.
Bulletin 11 November 2003
Protest against the exclusion zone!
As you may be aware, the Metropolitan Police (more like the White House) have denied the Stop the War Coalition a route for the National Demonstration on the 20th of November which will pass the Houses of Parliament and Whitehall.
We would ask you to send an urgent message to the Home Office protesting against this outrageous decision.
The Home Office
50 Queen Anne's Gate
London SW1H 9AT
public.enquiries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
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George W Bush to visit UK
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/images/stopbush.gif
18 Nov
Public Rally:
Speakers: Ron Kovic (Vietnam veteran), Harold Pinter (playwright), George Galloway MP (ex-Labour Party), Tony Benn, John Rees (Stop the War Coalition), Kate Hudson (CND), MAB speaker and Caroline Lucas MEP (Green Party).
Tuesday 18th November, 7.30pm
Friends Meeting House, Euston Road, opposite Euston BR (nearest tube Euston / Euston Sq).
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Wednesday 19th November
London: 11am The alternative state procession "will assemble at my Jubilee Gardens, South Bank, London SE1 on the 19th day of November at the hour of 11 o’clock" > Leaflet
Edinburgh: 2pm Bristo Square
Scotland Demo: 6pm Charlotte Square, Edinburgh. March to US Consulate
A Royal Welcome
Plays by Tony Kushner, Caryl Churchill and Martin Crimp
Wednesday 19th November, 1pm
Royal Court Theatre, Sloane Square, nearest tube Sloane Square, Entrance: free.
Walker
Alex Cox introduces Walker, his film about Nicaragua.
Wednesday 19th November, 5pm
The Deal and Ken Loach's 9/11
Stephen Frears will attend the showing, his recent TV film about events surrounding Tony Blair’s rise to power. Ken Loach will then introduce his segment of 9/11 dealing with ‘the other September 11th’ – the coup against the democratically elected government of Chile in 1973.
Wednesday 19th November, 8pm
Prince Charles Cinema, 7 Leicester Place, London WC2, nearest tube Leicester Square. Tickets are £7 each from the box office: 0207 494 3654 (1:30pm to 9pm).
Tell me lies... An Evening of Poetry and Music
With: Adrian Mitchell, Mike Rosen, Saadi Yousef, Mark Steel and Tino Gonzales & band.
Wednesday 19th November, 8.30pm
Camden Centre, Bidborough Street (Opposite Kings X Station). Tickets cost £7 (concessions £5). To reserve a ticket call 0207 053 2153/4/5/6 or office@stopwar.org.uk
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STP BU$H in Sedgefield
Friday 21st November, 10am
Assemble: Village Green, Sedgefield
Guantanamo Bay Protest
Friday 21st November, 11am
Outside the US Embassy, Grosvenor Square. Nearest tube: Bond Street
Report War Crimes to the Police!
how to do it
Friday 21st November, 12 noon
Organised by Legal Action Against War.
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/images/cairo2.gif
LATEST: Booking information. Form cairosupport@stopwar.org.uk
Please note change of date and flight and accomodation information.
See also: Cairo Declaration Tokyo Declaration
23 Oct: George Galloway expelled from the Labour Party > Seamus Milne in the Guardian
Defend Galloway & Dalyell > Papers from the disciplinary hearing
Solidarity: 5 Egyptian Anti-War activists face prosecution
Sign the petition against US govt suing Voices in the Wilderness for sanctions-busting
support soldiers who refused to fight Irish Anti-war activists Aus. Anti-war protestors (Sydney Opera House)
Appeals for witnesses: 5 Apr 03 Parliament Sq 20 Mar 03 Lewisham 20 Mar 03 (two acquitted, one still facing trial)
The official cost of war and occupation has now risen to *$85,417,390,709 (*watch counter go up)
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
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mdpm99
11-17-2003, 10:08 AM
Great!!!!!
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Supine
11-17-2003, 01:12 PM
Lots of people are taking thursday off work for this. graemlins/respekt.gif
Hopefully a peaceful message from britains public.
From Blaine baiting to Bush baiting smile.gif
Supine
Brut by Faberge
11-17-2003, 01:20 PM
disheartening post on BBC Web site:
"I don't support the protest rather condemn it strongly. The reason is, this is an official visit from a great leader who is trying to protect his country from terrorists. Most protests are motivated by individual organisation for their fame. If you see your fellow countrymen dying, as a leader what you expect him to do?
Issac Elayaraja, London, UK"
ugh! people actually feel this way overseas!? i do not understand...
Jolyon
11-17-2003, 01:22 PM
I'll be there on Thursday
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Jolyon
11-17-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Clarkeecat:
well there's that plan to organise mass moon-ings at old Dubyah.... I'm up for it!
did you see him on David Frost? It's all about freedom apparently....
Matthew That interview was a disgrace. Frost had his tongue so far up Bush's arse it was untrue. Time for Frostie The Snowman to retire. And if you ever want to know why he's called the Snowman...you might ask why he had a nose bleed on air a few years back...
MarkK
11-17-2003, 02:32 PM
I for one am glad they are protecting him. If something happened, well we would be left with this ASSHOLE:
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2002/pics/cheney-glory.jpg
Cheddar
11-17-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by MarkK:
I for one am glad they are protecting him. If something happened, well we would be left with this ASSHOLE:
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2002/pics/cheney-glory.jpg He is really a DICK
assholes delight
11-17-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
George W Bush to visit UK
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/images/stopbush.gif
18 Nov
Public Rally:
Speakers: Ron Kovic (Vietnam veteran), Harold Pinter (playwright), George Galloway MP (ex-Labour Party), Tony Benn, John Rees (Stop the War Coalition), Kate Hudson (CND), MAB speaker and Caroline Lucas MEP (Green Party).
Tuesday 18th November, 7.30pm
Friends Meeting House, Euston Road, opposite Euston BR (nearest tube Euston / Euston Sq).
This guy George Galloway has some balls. People are trying to pin a Saddam-Lover badge on him, which he's not. Could he actually be an honest Labour (or ex) member?
Moksha
11-17-2003, 03:29 PM
I'm going to the march on Thursday with my 80-something-year-old grandparents, They despise Bush.
ramar
11-17-2003, 03:56 PM
from the Observer Newspaper:
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'Shoot-to-kill' demand by US
Martin Bright, home affairs editor
Sunday November 16, 2003
The Observer
Home Secretary David Blunkett has refused to grant diplomatic immunity to armed American special agents and snipers travelling to Britain as part of President Bush's entourage this week.
In the case of the accidental shooting of a protester, the Americans in Bush's protection squad will face justice in a British court as would any other visitor, the Home Office has confirmed.
The issue of immunity is one of a series of extraordinary US demands turned down by Ministers and Downing Street during preparations for the Bush visit.
These included the closure of the Tube network, the use of US air force planes and helicopters and the shipping in of battlefield weaponry to use against rioters.
In return, the British authorities agreed numerous concessions, including the creation of a 'sterile zone' around the President with a series of road closures in central London and a security cordon keeping the public away from his cavalcade.
The White House initially demanded the closure of all Tube lines under parts of London to be visited during the trip. But British officials dismissed the idea that a suicide bomber could kill the President by blowing up a Tube train. Ministers are also believed to have dismissed suggestions that a 'sterile zone' around the President should be policed entirely by American special agents and military.
Demands for the US air force to patrol above London with fighter aircraft and Black Hawk helicopters have also been turned down.
The President's protection force will be armed - as Tony Blair's is when he travels abroad - and around 250 secret service agents will fly in with Bush, but operational control will remain with the Metropolitan Police.
The Americans had also wanted to travel with a piece of military hardware called a 'mini-gun', which usually forms part of the mobile armoury in the presidential cavalcade. It is fired from a tank and can kill dozens of people. One manufacturer's description reads: 'Due to the small calibre of the round, the mini-gun can be used practically anywhere. This is especially helpful during peacekeeping deployments.'
Ministers have made clear to Washington that the firepower of the mini-gun will not be available during the state visit to Britain. In return, the Government has agreed to close off much of Whitehall during the visit - the usual practice in Britain is to use police outriders to close roads as the cavalcade passes to cause minimal disruption to traffic.
A Home Office spokeswoman said: 'Negotiations between here and the US have been perfectly amicable. If there have been requests, they have not posed any problems.'
An internal memo sent to Cabinet Office staff and leaked to the press this weekend urged staff to work from home if at possible during the presidential visit. Serious disruption would be caused by 'the President Bush vehicle entourage requesting cleared secured vehicle routes around London and the security cordons creating a sterile zone around him'.
Meanwhile, negotiations are continuing between police and demonstrators about the route of the march. Representatives of the Stop the War Coalition will meet police at Scotland Yard tomorrow to discuss whether protesters will be able to march through Parliament Square and Whitehall. Spokesman Andrew Burgin said he hoped for 'a good old-fashioned British compromise'.
ramar
11-17-2003, 04:02 PM
from me & 100's of 1000's, young and old:
NOT WELCOME
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Moksha
11-17-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by ramar:
from the Observer Newspaper:
the shipping in of battlefield weaponry to use against rioters. :eek: :eek:
altrrdst8
11-17-2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by ramar:
from the Observer Newspaper:
'Due to the small calibre of the round, the mini-gun can be used practically anywhere. This is especially helpful during peacekeeping deployments.'
what wonderful logic
gabriel
11-17-2003, 05:18 PM
wow
and i live in this country.
Martin Red
11-18-2003, 08:18 AM
Urrrrrrm, I wondering who will end up footing the £5Million this visit is costing...
Leslie
11-18-2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MarkK:
I for one am glad they are protecting him. If something happened, well we would be left with this ASSHOLE:
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2002/pics/cheney-glory.jpg He is really a DICK </font>[/QUOTE]And he'd have a heart attack 2 weeks into his reign of terror - who's next on the list, I think the head of the Senate right?
[ November 18, 2003, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: Leslie ]
I heard of the support to protest in the UK because the US furor is coming to town.....
I am hoping that one of those bear bottles or nail
bombs does the trick.
ramar
11-18-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Hk:
one of those bear bottleslethal... graemlins/rofl.gif
domodisco
11-18-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MarkK:
I for one am glad they are protecting him. If something happened, well we would be left with this ASSHOLE:
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2002/pics/cheney-glory.jpg He is really a DICK </font>[/QUOTE]And he'd have a heart attack 2 weeks into his reign of terror - who's next on the list, I think the head of the Senate right? </font>[/QUOTE]The Speaker of the House is next in succession - Denny Hastert, after that the pres. of the senate. Scary thought, as Hastert is LIKETHIS with the Christian Coalition and is basically a tool of *shudder* Tom DeLay.
mdpm99
11-18-2003, 01:35 PM
London Mayor Ken Livingstone, who this week called Bush "the greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen," complained that £2 of a typical Londoner's local taxes would be spent on policing the visit.
"I think most Londoners would be happy to give £4 for him not to come," said Livingstone, who has planned an alternative anti-war reception at City Hall on Wednesday.
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Ps.
Bush, Dick, & Colin.....
FOOTNOTE(S)
As his ratings slip he travels to London where even more people think he sucks! 50% of Americans can't stand him, didn't vote for him, and still think he is an illegal president!
:D Give him hell London! We can't wait to get rid of this idiot in 2004!
graemlins/cool_shades.gif Watch out kids -- he's gonna reinstitute the draft and it's gonna be Vietnam all over again. You had better register to vote and help get the other 50% of Americans that don't bother to vote to come out against him in 2004 before you are all killed for oil in the name of terror!
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[ November 18, 2003, 01:35 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]
Yo ramar, just depends on which way one uses it, dont it.
mdpm99
11-18-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Hk:
I heard of the support to protest in the UK because the US furor is coming to town.....
I am hoping that one of those bear bottles or nail
bombs does the trick. Greetings HK:
Let's hope it is peaceful. We will get more with honey than with vinegar.
Hope all is well with you, HK smile.gif
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Jolyon
11-18-2003, 02:57 PM
The estimate is that around 20,000 people will march on Thursday...not bad! I wonder if the US networks will be beaming that into your living rooms? Methinks Fox will stick to Bush and the Queen smiling at each other.
mdpm99
11-18-2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
The estimate is that around 20,000 people will march on Thursday...not bad! I wonder if the US networks will be beaming that into your living rooms? Methinks Fox will stick to Bush and the Queen smiling at each other. ....considering that it is directly to do with him visiting England, then yes, these are great
numbers.
I say ole' chap, ....moon him!!!
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Jolyon
11-18-2003, 03:05 PM
I don't think he'd see the moon...he'll be locked away in Buckingham Palace watching the Queen's holiday home movies.
Moksha
11-18-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
The estimate is that around 20,000 people will march on Thursday...not bad! I wonder if the US networks will be beaming that into your living rooms? Methinks Fox will stick to Bush and the Queen smiling at each other. I heard 60,000.
Jolyon
11-18-2003, 03:20 PM
Let's hope so Orion...although the anti war demonstrators always over-estiamte the numbers and the police always under estimate the numbers...
David Le C
11-18-2003, 03:37 PM
I can't believe there are people still defending Bush, and most of all, how they narrow down the discussion about his regime in an endless pro/contra war against terrorism debate... can't they see that Bush is simply incompetent on all levels? I've read that 50% of the people in the US don't support him, that's great... but actually it frightens me that it's only 50%. I mean, if I can see from my cosy little chair in Belgium that Bush is blowing up the US from the inside, then it stupifies (spell?) me that only 50 % of the US citizens see the same thing. I guess Gunther Grass was right when he said that eye-witnesses are mostly too blind to see the facts in all the excitement...
just my 2 eurocents...
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Moksha
11-18-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by David Le C:
how they narrow down the discussion about his regime in an endless pro/contra war against terrorism debate... Bush recently used this line of reasoning in an interview. Of course. . .the public has already forgotten the fact that Iraq and terrorism have NOTHING to do with each other.
Mark Gurney
11-18-2003, 04:11 PM
I'm not happy that us Londoners have to pay for this farce. My council tax is high enough already, now its getting increased for this nonsense.
Why can't the government/royal family pay for it ? They're meeting the fool not me !!
Martin Red
11-19-2003, 03:14 AM
Security Breach at The Palace
uurrrrrm, £5million on security - that was well spent (sarcasm)
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Reporter Parry got a job as a royal footman
'I COULD HAVE KILLED BUSH'
An undercover newspaper reporter has told how he could have killed President Bush after breaching royal security at Buckingham Palace.
Ryan Parry said: "Had I been a terrorist intent on assassinating the Queen or American president George Bush, I could have done so with absolute ease."
The Daily Mirror journalist posed as a footman for two months and was due to serve breakfast to President Bush's top aides this morning, the newspaper said.
The reporter used bogus references to get a job while the police and royal staff were preparing for the visit of President George Bush.
The shocking investigation covered 15 pages in today's edition of the newspaper and raises questions over royal security.
'Incompetence'
The story includes pictures by photographer Phil Harris from inside the palace of the president and his wife's bedroom, The Belgian Suite, the Queen's breakfast table and the Duke of York's room, complete with soft toys.
He wrote: "This morning I would have been serving breakfast to key members of his government, including National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice and US Secretary of State Colin Powell.
"Such is the shocking incompetence at the heart of the biggest security operation ever in Britain.
Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan told Sky News: "When we became aware of our reporter's ability to move around the Palace we were horrified.
He added the Palace way of checking security "...was a system whereby someone phoned his local pub and a local in the corner of the bar yelled out: 'I know Ryan Parry!'."
"I should imagine there are a few pretzels being choked over this morning... it is scandalous."
The White House press office and Buckingham Palace made no comment about the story.
Metropolitan Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner Andy Trotter said security was being reviewed, but admitted: "We are extremely concerned."
Parry, who was pictured in red livery riding in a gilded horse-drawn carriage yesterday, claimed no rigorous security checks were done after he responded to a job ad on the Buckhingham Palace official website.
Despite this, he claimed he was given a full all-areas security pass on his first day and during a security blitz ahead of the president's visit, he was able to walk through rooms he and his wife would use.
Last Updated: 08:51 UK, Wednesday November 19, 2003
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DJ Duke
11-19-2003, 03:37 AM
Hey,
Is it true that Bush is going to the UK to figure out the Neu Federal Police Uniforms they plan to enforce within the next 5 years. I hears they are thinking about all black, thigh high black boots and a arm band with the eagle as the logo. They were orginally thinking about using a Tibeten Swastika, but Bush told the desginers that it was too bad, but it was already used by one of his heros 60 years ago. So I think they are going with a Red arm band and a black Eagle logo. The offical sign when you enter the US will be "Wilkomman to da United Statez"
We MUST vote for Bush again folks..... Don't knock a dumb.. oops I mean great dictator... oops I mean leader..
uzibee
11-19-2003, 05:23 AM
They will all were big Black Doc Martens boots (curtusy of Blair) with big red laces on them (curtusy of W.Bush)
Fletch
11-19-2003, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by domodisco:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MarkK:
I for one am glad they are protecting him. If something happened, well we would be left with this ASSHOLE:
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2002/pics/cheney-glory.jpg He is really a DICK </font>[/QUOTE]And he'd have a heart attack 2 weeks into his reign of terror - who's next on the list, I think the head of the Senate right? </font>[/QUOTE]The Speaker of the House is next in succession - Denny Hastert, after that the pres. of the senate. Scary thought, as Hastert is LIKETHIS with the Christian Coalition and is basically a tool of *shudder* Tom DeLay. </font>[/QUOTE]Not necessarily.
Technically, there's no provision if BOTH kick the bucket or are unable. Amendment 25 only provides for if the Prez is unable. This came up during the Reagan assassination attempt. While Ronnie boy was in the hospital, Daddy Bush was on Air Force 2 on the way back to Washington. The Cabinet couldn't reach him. That's when Al Haig (Sec of State) went out and said "I'm in charge". House Speaker Tip O'Neil put his *** in check, though, calling him wrong! I don't think O'Neil claimed himself being next, though.
That's why you NEVER see GWB and Cheney together.
PS--I saw "I'm in charge" both live (what was Al Haig thinkin'?) and in the movie (Richard Dreyfuss should have got an Emmy for that role: "Cap, where's the f'in football?")
[ November 19, 2003, 06:28 AM: Message edited by: Fletch ]
mdpm99
11-19-2003, 09:21 AM
"I should imagine there are a few pretzels being choked over this morning... it is scandalous."
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furrrr sure!
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Ps.
"A smirking, self-important, yet befuddled little boy, playing soldier in grown-ups' clothing..."Inspecting the Honor Guard" at Buckhingham Palace. How did such a disgraceful sight ever come to be?"
[ November 19, 2003, 09:35 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]
the crackhouse
11-19-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
The heightened state of security has seen extra police at ports and airports and checking people arriving on Eurostar trains from France. Yeah, we've come to see the monster...
Mark Gurney
11-19-2003, 06:02 PM
How comes these protesters have not had a full on pop at Tony Blair in the last 8 months ? Surely he's as bad Mr Bush ?
Brut by Faberge
11-19-2003, 09:00 PM
man i hope they televise the good stuff. i was just flipping through the news channels but didn't see anything about the demonstrators' presence specifically.
what is the official word on how close to parliament people will be able to get? this president is such a pussy.
blast! back to my beer http://deephousepage.com/smilies/40s.gif
GrantB
11-19-2003, 09:22 PM
How about this for protest:
SCRAP BUSH! Call to women's action! Women's shaving protest! Includes the call for women to join in protest by shaving their bushes and sending the trimmings to the Queen. Put them in an envelope with a note saying, "We've got rid of our bush, you get rid of yours!" When you have done this please send us an e-mail at: God_shave_the_queen-s@yahoogroups.com. You don’t have to put your name if you don’t want to, we would just like an idea of the number of women who have taken part in the action. www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/279894.html (http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/279894.html) or www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/london/2003/11/280538.html (http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/london/2003/11/280538.html)
http://www.resistbush.org/events.html
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Martin Red
11-20-2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by GrantB:
How about this for protest:
SCRAP BUSH! Call to women's action! Women's shaving protest! Includes the call for women to join in protest by shaving their bushes and sending the trimmings to the Queen. Put them in an envelope with a note saying, "We've got rid of our bush, you get rid of yours!" When you have done this please send us an e-mail at: God_shave_the_queen-s@yahoogroups.com. You don’t have to put your name if you don’t want to, we would just like an idea of the number of women who have taken part in the action. www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/279894.html (http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/11/279894.html) or www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/london/2003/11/280538.html (http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/london/2003/11/280538.html)
http://www.resistbush.org/events.html
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Baring Your Bum
If you hear of a visit to your part of town or happen to see George W Bush, bare your arse in his general direction. Don't be afraid to wiggle it about a bit and maybe even spread your cheeks; this is a political statement you're making and you don't want to do things by halves, now do you?
Threatening To Bare Your Bum
Write to your chosen local, national or foreign newspaper and inform them that you, as a British citizen, fully intend to do your civic duty and bare your arse at George W Bush. In this same letter, you may also wish to call upon other readers to do the same.
Don't wait for the official visit; get typing and do this now. With any luck, Georgie will hear of the unwelcome reception that awaits him and decide to stay at home.
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Using a More Modest Approach
If you're too shy to bare your arse or have any kind of difficulty in the trouser department, you may choose instead to use the following poster and wave this in his general direction instead. Clicking on the sample below will open a large version in a new window. (If this poster is not to your taste, there is a wide selection of alternatives available at waketheworld.org)
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Martin Red
11-20-2003, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by THX-1138:
what is the official word on how close to parliament people will be able to get? this president is such a pussy.
blast! back to my beer http://deephousepage.com/smilies/40s.gif http://www.birmingham-photos.co.uk/images/PB3/C1photos/C1JPEG/PB3p10B.jpg
Put it this way, he certainly will not be getting as close as Clinton in the above pic. And I don't he will be displaying the word below on his visit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/85000/images/_85031_clinton300.jpg
Mayor protests at Bush 'exclusion zone'
Matthew Tempest and agencies
Tuesday November 11, 2003
Ken Livingstone stepped into the row over the US president's state visit to London today, insisting that George Bush should witness those protesting against him, and that the capital's taxpayers should not foot the bill for his security.
Organisers of the various protests planned for Mr Bush's three-day visit are now in negotiations with police, after reports that a march down Whitehall to Parliament Square would be banned at the insistence of the White House.
The London mayor, who has already declined an invitation to meet the president and will be hosting a peace reception at City Hall instead, said any attempt to try and help Mr Bush avoid protesters would be "inconceivable".
Speaking at his weekly press conference, Mr Livingstone hoped there would not be a repeat of the "shameful" scenes that arose during the visit of President Jiang Zemin of China in 1999.
When he rode up The Mall, police stopped protesters from holding up protest banners and Tibetan flags.
"The Met police were requested by Foreign Office officials that the police should make sure he did not see the demonstrators," Mr Livingstone said.
"I have to see demonstrators all the time. It is part of the great joy of politics. Those police were actually breaking the law as they took those banners away. We are not having any of that."
He added: "To create a situation in which perhaps 60,000 people remain unseen would require a shutdown of central London which is just not acceptable."
It is now a matter for Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir John Stephens to try and find "a reasonable balance" in closing roads to protect Mr Bush.
But the question of who should foot the policing bill remains a thorny issue.
Richard Barnes, deputy chairman of the Metropolitan Police Authority, said the bill should not have to be paid by local ratepayers.
"It should be met by central government. It is a central government initiative that he is here. It is a national and an international obligation that falls to the Met. You cannot expect London ratepayers to pick up the bill."
The low-key approach to policing, which has worked effectively during the weekend's Remembrance Sunday commemorations in central London attending by senior royals and politicians, shows that Sir John is best placed to oversee the operation without external interference, Mr Livingstone suggested.
He said: "We have not a had prime minister assassinated in this country for 190 years. Some absolute monsters have come to this country. People like Ceausescu [the former Romanian leader] where there are literally thousands of refugees from their country.
"They have always been protected. I do think the Americans should pay attention because we know our city best."
Meanwhile, the Stop The War Coalition, which is organising some of the protests during the president's three-day visit next week, said it would demand the right to march down Whitehall in the centre of the capital during a huge demonstration which could attract more than 100,000 people.
The group, which is organising the protests with CND and the Muslim Association of Britain, said today it had been told privately by senior police officers that the decision to ban the marchers from some parts of London followed pressure from the White House not to have people protesting near Mr Bush.
"It is an outrage that the most unwelcome guest this country has ever received will be given the freedom of the streets, while a movement that represents majority opinion is denied the right to protest in the area which is the heart of government," said Lindsey German, convenor of the Stop the War Coalition.
"The police claim that the ban is to do with the sessional order that prevents demonstrations when Parliament is sitting. But, as MP Jeremy Corbyn says, previous demonstrations have gone along this route when Parliament is in session and, in any case, it is quite possible that parliament will not even be sitting when the Bush demonstration takes place."
The demonstration is due to take place on Thursday next week after Mr Bush has laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in Westminster Abbey and held talks with the prime minister.
Tony Blair entered the row over Mr Bush's visit last night by claiming that now was the right time for the president to come to Britain.
He used a speech to guests at the lord mayor's banquet to defend Mr Bush over the war with Iraq, adding that protesters had every right to demonstrate in a free society - but urging them to draw a line under the Iraq conflict and move on.
Further talks between the coalition and the police are expected later this week, with time running out on agreeing a route for the march.
Papier-mache statues of the US president will be erected in London and other cities and then pulled down in echoes of the Saddam statue famously toppled in Baghdad towards the end of the military assault on the city.
[ November 20, 2003, 03:44 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]
Martin Red
11-20-2003, 03:35 AM
Analysis: Bush mission to explain
George Bush began his state visit to Britain with an arrival ceremony which made him look like George Custer in the badlands of Dakota.
Buckingham Palace could have been renamed Fort London.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3284747.stm
Brut by Faberge
11-20-2003, 08:23 AM
thanks for the updates Martin!
that whole "defense of 'Western' values" thing just gives me the creeps though. It's just more under-speak in lieu of not being able to call the shit a "crusade" as he had before and all blasted him for it.
And why was the response at Buckingham Palace so pansy ass? I don't understand that. With so many opponents in the UK at large, and then he gets a fucking golf clap from the politicians? graemlins/conf44.gif
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