Should the Human Shields in Irag be prosecuted when they return........

[Basecore Boy]

I can't wait to see your response.

[Basecore Boy]

Nothing on this topic. Some Senators are thinking about do just that.

[Balactus]

they could be. i don't think it's unreasonable.

w

[Basecore Boy]

This is what my take is on this. If the police were gonna arrest my brother for drug dealing and I try to stand in front of my brother to stop them from arresting him. That would be obstructing justice. I may be wrong on this one.

[Balactus]

it seems to me as if they're allying themselves with the enemy. which is treason. whatever you think of the war you still can't go and join up with the enemy if they come back they'll prolly get tried for treason.

w

[D J 1 3 8]

I don't think Iraq is legally considered "the enemy" until war has been declared, which it may never be, whether we bomb or not. I don't think those human sheild folks have done anything illegal up to this point.

[lyot]

the war itself is gonna be illegal if the UN Security council doesn't legalize it. And it looks like it's going that way

[Basecore Boy]

I'm sorry the UN is a joke now. They can prevent war, by demanding Irag give up weapons of mass destruction.

[lyot]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I'm sorry the UN is a joke now. They can prevent war, by demanding Irag give up weapons of mass destruction.No one can prevent war..The decision has already been taken a long time ago..If you think this has anything to do with weapon inspections, I believe you're missing the point.. This is all just a facade. So of course the UN is a joke. The US wants to have Saddam out,and every pretext is a good one..The UN is powerless, and it's not gonna keep the US from attacking.. Do you honestly believe Saddam has real weapons of mass destruction in his country? Let me say this : why, if the US is so certain about this fact, doesn't it show the weapon inspectors where it has to look ? Why aren't Blix & Barradei taken to the CIA headquarters and told where they have to look ? The UN inspection team didn't found A SINGLE CLUE proving Irak still has these kind of weapons.

peace

[richierich]

I don't know about the prosecution thing, I do think that if it comes to it and they are actually in the way of some serious mission the US troops will snatch their asses and remove them from any blocking they are trying to do. They might get shot point blank and dealt with later. That is some dangerous shit to be doing, they don't know if the Iraqi troops will capture them and torture them just for being foreigners. If that were to happen who would they call to rescue them since they put themselves in harms way. Human shield my ass, those rifles will shoot right through them and hit whoever is behind them. I think that they will get blown to hell with everybody else if it comes down to it and the government will just throw some money at their families and be done with it. All is fair in love and war. You mean "If" they return!!! Fifty Iraqi fighter ar holed up in an abandoned building and two human shields are in there with them, "Oh let's not bomb the building" yeah right they better be ready to die cause they aint gonna stop nothin'
Peace

[ March 06, 2003, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[Basecore Boy]

Saddam may be a crazy man, but he's not stupid.

MOVIN THANGS AROUND. ???????????????

[konbit]

Or...more likely...he doesn't have any.

[konbit]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
This is what my take is on this. If the police were gonna arrest my brother for drug dealing and I try to stand in front of my brother to stop them from arresting him. That would be obstructing justice. I may be wrong on this one.The difference is...we are not "the police," and Iraq is not a criminal. Tell me...what laws have they broke?

[Basecore Boy]

The world community say's they have weapons of mass destruction. I guess the whole world is wrong.

[domodisco]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Saddam may be a crazy man, but he's not stupid.

MOVIN THANGS AROUND. ???????????????You don't just 'move thangs around'. The US has the most advanced intelligence technology in the world - radiation detectors that can find radioactive signatures from miles away, reconnaissance flights, the ability to listen in on all electronic communications, hell, we even have satellites that can read a matchbox from space. If he really had any 'weapons of mass destruction', we would sure as hell know about it. This nonsense about 'mobile bioweapons labs' is just that: nonsense. Creating these weapons takes a HUGE industrial facility, and current technology, neither of which Saddam has, mainly because we BLEW IT ALL UP in the first Gulf war and in the 12 years since...

[ March 06, 2003, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: domodisco ]

[Balactus]

whether the WAR is legal or not is not the issue. the issue is when USA goes to war against iraq no u.s. citizen can be over there providing support for iraq. if back in the 60's protestors had flown over to vietnam and stood infront of vietnamese targest they would've been blown up or arrested.

w

[Basecore Boy]

Originally posted by willdabeast:
whether the WAR is legal or not is not the issue. the issue is when USA goes to war against iraq no u.s. citizen can be over there providing support for iraq. if back in the 60's protestors had flown over to vietnam and stood infront of vietnamese targest they would've been blown up or arrested.

wtrue

[konbit]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
The world community say's they have weapons of mass destruction. I guess the whole world is wrong.No...nobody else does, actually.

The "human shields" are willing to die for something they believe in (weren't you praising this in another thread?) They beleve in peace, not in Iraq...which makes them braver and strongert than any soldier.

If they are not providing material aid to the Iraq army...what laws are they breaking?

[Basecore Boy]

Obstructing Justice. Is what Senators are saying.

[floorgasm]

america IS the world police. you follow their laws, or you get nailed. and if the UN doesn't back them, they'll go it alone. but they won't subject their citizens and soldiers to international war crimes legislation and they certainly won't charge anyone in camp xray without letting them cool off for a few years.

[mk7]

Basecore Boy

With respect, from your posts it seems you have taken the official US Gov. line on Iraq as gospel. You have Saddam 'moving' around his huge w.o.m.d. arsenal and keeping it from the hapless inspectors, waiting til he can launch an attack on the innocent, while the whole world loses patience for this badboy to bendover. Meanwhile anyone who believes that this war is morally wrong, and does whatevers left in their power to stop it (lets face it, demostrating at home is ignored) is a criminal.

This is NOT the humanitarian matter the US/UK governments are painting it - GOOD Vs EVIL. If we are so concerned with human rights abuse there are plenty of other instances around the world that we are conveniently ignoring. No, this is just another attempt by the US to mop up more disasterous foreign policy of the past, and grab a healthy control over resourses to boot. When Iran was the bad guy, the US thought it had an ally in Iraq and supplied the weapons we're now so threatened by.

It is a mastersroke of 'spin' that the US has managed to steer the backlash to the terrible events of 9/11 towards this Iraq stituation. Please ask yourself, what is it that YOU want out of this war? Revenge for 9/11? Do you feel that Saddam Hussein is a true threat to the world? What is driving you to form your opinions of Iraq? Can you believe everything you get from the media coverage?

Please don't think the rest of the world wants the war that's about to kick off, we don't. However the US government trade/aid policies can buy a lot of silence.

Peace
Mark

[f0reverneverm0re]

"Should the Human Shields in Irag be prosecuted when they return........"

no, the Whitehouse administration and congress should be replaced by these people

[Red D]

Indeed, this whole Iraq is a world threat propaganda should be obvious even to the most dimwitted US Citizens.

I'm guessing 70% of the US citizens don't even know where Iraq is situated, and now suddenly a majority wants to see it destroyed and its bad leader captured and/or killed.

The Star Wars styled US foreign policy is a complete joke, but sadly enough it isn't a funny one...

RD

[Mah'chew]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
This is what my take is on this. If the police were gonna arrest my brother for drug dealing and I try to stand in front of my brother to stop them from arresting him. That would be obstructing justice. I may be wrong on this one.Who made your mad adminisration the Police in this scenario? No wonder the US has an image problem, you automatically think that you're a global police force. You're not wanted in this role, please don't assume it is your right to be a policeman for the rest of the world!

[Mah'chew]

These are testing times for our US brothers and sisters, a time when the rest of the world, the world outside the DHP, see you as the enemy, not just muslims, but people in europe too..

In the words of Ice Cube, you need to check yo'self before you wreck yo'self

[the crackhouse]

Originally posted by floorgasm:
america IS the world police. Things are changing...
The rest of the world is saying the big brotha to shut up.
Also, in 9/11, the big brotha has shown that he could be attacked, even if he's strong.
Why Bush didn't get that ?
He's ready to pay for war in Iraq by the loss of US citizens in horrible terrorists acts...
US troops and citizens will pay for Bush convoiting oil.

[Basecore Boy]

I heard last night they are hauling ass out of Irag. Saddam gave them nice rooms and alot of food to stay in these areas. The man is thug.

[House]

Originally posted by willdabeast:
whether the WAR is legal or not is not the issue. the issue is when USA goes to war against iraq no u.s. citizen can be over there providing support for iraq. if back in the 60's protestors had flown over to vietnam and stood infront of vietnamese targest they would've been blown up or arrested.

wyou mean like jane fonda....
nice to see you don't know what you're talking about

[House]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Obstructing Justice. Is what Senators are saying.too bad for your argument that the senate ain't the judiciary

[Basecore Boy]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Obstructing Justice. Is what Senators are saying.too bad for your argument that the senate ain't the judiciary</font>[/QUOTE]They are asking the courts to deal with this issue.

[f0reverneverm0re]

Originally posted by Mathius:
These are testing times for our US brothers and sisters, a time when the rest of the world, the world outside the DHP, see you as the enemy, not just muslims, but people in europe too..

In the words of Ice Cube, you need to check yo'self before you wreck yo'selfyou do mean the US govt controllers and all ignorant chest beating citizen monkeys, right?

just finished watching a film about how not all US citizens hate being reminded of the callous nuclear test on Japan conducted by Harry Truman and co. ("Rhapsody in August", directed by Akira Kurasawa)

i can handle being hated by others for the simple reason that the nation whose flag i live under wreaks havoc on other nations and people. i understand and i apologize on behalf of "the US"...

..hopefully we can all come together without any more nationality baiting and shit...

[House]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Obstructing Justice. Is what Senators are saying.too bad for your argument that the senate ain't the judiciary</font>[/QUOTE]They are asking the courts to deal with this issue.</font>[/QUOTE]someone asked you "what laws were they breaking?"

your response was:
"Obstructing Justice. Is what Senators are saying"

now your saying something different..that they are asking the courts to look at this...translation they don't know and neither do you.

[Basecore Boy]

I will say this that obstructing justice, is obstructing justice. I don't have to be a lawyer to figure that one out.

[House]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I will say this that obstructing justice, is obstructing justice. I don't have to be a lawyer to figure that one out.and exactly what is "obstructing justice"

[Basecore Boy]

Your kidding right?

[House]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Your kidding right?no..i'm not kidding...explain it to us...

[House]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Your kidding right?no..i'm not kidding...explain it to us...</font>[/QUOTE]your reply implied a simple answer - yet i'm still waiting....should i assume you want to say "i don't know"

[House]

damnation i better stop holding my breath...just like i thought ya don't know what the legal term meant- hell, neither do I and as it is applied to international law and us citizens neither does the senate....but as usual when you call the right wing to task..they just run and hide behind smoke and mirrors and draft deferrments and BS

[martino]

The real issue is dissent. Senators really want to charge these ppl for dissent, not obstructing justice. thats what its about really. Treason is aiding the enemy Not sitting in a civilan neighbourhood in protest...that's not obstructing anything.

[Basecore Boy]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
damnation i better stop holding my breath...just like i thought ya don't know what the legal term meant- hell, neither do I and as it is applied to international law and us citizens neither does the senate....but as usual when you call the right wing to task..they just run and hide behind smoke and mirrors and draft deferrments and BSSorry, I was in a meeting. Can't talk right now. I don't hide. I don't know anything but Fox news.

[Clay BoogieDown Bonifield]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
damnation i better stop holding my breath...just like i thought ya don't know what the legal term meant- hell, neither do I and as it is applied to international law and us citizens neither does the senate....but as usual when you call the right wing to task..they just run and hide behind smoke and mirrors and draft deferrments and BSSorry, I was in a meeting. Can't talk right now. I don't hide. I don't know anything but Fox news.</font>[/QUOTE]You still haven't answered the question....... graemlins/sleep.gif

[Basecore Boy]

How about this I don't know!

[House]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
How about this I don't know!now we're making progress

[konbit]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I don't know anything but Fox news.AAAhhahahahahahahahahahaha

[Querck]

Originally posted by willdabeast:
it seems to me as if they're allying themselves with the enemy. which is treason. whatever you think of the war you still can't go and join up with the enemy if they come back they'll prolly get tried for treason.

wWho says? Your posts seem to be hypocritical. On one hand, you don't seem to mind that U.S. will be breaking the law if it invades Iraq, but on the other hand, you want the law to punish those who commit treason. Well, you can't have it both ways. Either you respect the rule of law, or you don't. If you do respect the rule of law, then you would agree that U.S. invasion of Iraq is prohibited.

[House]

Originally posted by konbit:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I don't know anything but Fox news.AAAhhahahahahahahahahahaha</font>[/QUOTE]i would have been shocked if he said he READS this stuff

oooh thats a shot

[Basecore Boy]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by konbit:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I don't know anything but Fox news.AAAhhahahahahahahahahahaha</font>[/QUOTE]i would have been shocked if he said he READS this stuff

oooh thats a shot</font>[/QUOTE]Are you upset with me because I didn't respond. Maybe I didn't want to.

[House]

Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by willdabeast:
it seems to me as if they're allying themselves with the enemy. which is treason. whatever you think of the war you still can't go and join up with the enemy if they come back they'll prolly get tried for treason.

wWho says? Your posts seem to be hypocritical. On one hand, you don't seem to mind that U.S. will be breaking the law if it invades Iraq, but on the other hand, you want the law to punish those who commit treason. Well, you can't have it both ways. Either you respect the rule of law, or you don't. If you do respect the rule of law, then you would agree that U.S. invasion of Iraq is prohibited.</font>[/QUOTE]who says its treason anyway...is that what the LAW states...i love how cats just make shit up to fit their cause

[Basecore Boy]

Quiet. Can you hear them.

The FBI is listening.

[House]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by konbit:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I don't know anything but Fox news.AAAhhahahahahahahahahahaha</font>[/QUOTE]i would have been shocked if he said he READS this stuff

oooh thats a shot</font>[/QUOTE]Are you upset with me because I didn't respond. Maybe I didn't want to.</font>[/QUOTE]Hey...does this sentence sound familiar "How about this i don't know"?...are you too stupid to follow your own convo?...as i said IQ entrance exams are really needed...as well as more funding for our educational systems...sheesh

[Basecore Boy]

Your talking about a guy that finished 5th grade. How about that!