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kev

08-01-2003, 10:45 AM

I just remembered one of my dreams last night. I remember some guy was telling me that Sasha was in the hospital and dying. That's all I remember now.

Martin Red

08-01-2003, 10:49 AM

weird

It may mean that you are going to start purchasing "progressive" and get lotsa girls paying you in band aids and gas & air ?

meaning two: Sacha is a shoe shop also, have you a fear of walking with bear feet.

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And

08-01-2003, 11:55 AM

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MYOR

08-01-2003, 12:19 PM

Eww I hate dreams that tell you someone is dying....

speaking of dreams and sleeping has this ever happened to you...

Last night I was asleep. I heard a noise. I woke up look around see if anything was going on.. went back to sleep.. As I'm falling asleep I feel somethin pressing me down.. I tell myself ok I'm dreaming then I feel some thing stroke my hair and neck and i think to myself( in my sleep) oohh thats just my hair falling down onto my neck... then I realized.. hey it can't be my hair I cut it.. its not that long.. then I proceed to feel as if someone is holding my shoulder and wispering in my ear.. Then I force myself to wake up... Needless to say I was scerd to go back to sleep.... :( graemlins/mecry.gif

GrantB

08-01-2003, 12:24 PM

Terri 447

08-01-2003, 12:41 PM

ughhh! i know EXACTLY what you mean!!!

the other night...when i was falling asleep, it felt like someone blew air in my face. I woke up and was SCARED!! When i was FINALLY falling back to sleep...we had a thunderstorm!!

Needless to say, I was a complete bitch the following morning from not sleeping!

And

08-01-2003, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by MYOR:
Eww I hate dreams that tell you someone is dying....

speaking of dreams and sleeping has this ever happened to you...

Last night I was asleep. I heard a noise. I woke up look around see if anything was going on.. went back to sleep.. As I'm falling asleep I feel somethin pressing me down.. I tell myself ok I'm dreaming then I feel some thing stroke my hair and neck and i think to myself( in my sleep) oohh thats just my hair falling down onto my neck... then I realized.. hey it can't be my hair I cut it.. its not that long.. then I proceed to feel as if someone is holding my shoulder and wispering in my ear.. Then I force myself to wake up... Needless to say I was scerd to go back to sleep.... :( graemlins/mecry.gif Oh yeah ... I've had that happen. One time I even felt someone climb into bed next to me. There were depressions in the bed wherever they leaned but there was NO ONE there! graemlins/scared.gif
Then I've had the sensation of a small creature sitting right on my chest. I'm frozen stiff in bed, wide awake but can't move or speak or scream. I've read there are things called incubus and succubus that do that to men and women.

Hippie

08-01-2003, 07:47 PM

Actually there is a sleep state ( I forget the name now) for this that is recognized by scientist. You sleep and you can fell like your awake but you can't get up. Meanwhile shit happens around you. I use to get it alot when I was younger. I learned how to control it so I would try to hold out as long as possible then when I wanted to wake I reminded myself it's just a dream and I would tell myself at the count of 3 I will wake and sure enough after counting to 3 I would wake. smile.gif

Friday

08-01-2003, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by 6 23:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
Eww I hate dreams that tell you someone is dying....

speaking of dreams and sleeping has this ever happened to you...

Last night I was asleep. I heard a noise. I woke up look around see if anything was going on.. went back to sleep.. As I'm falling asleep I feel somethin pressing me down.. I tell myself ok I'm dreaming then I feel some thing stroke my hair and neck and i think to myself( in my sleep) oohh thats just my hair falling down onto my neck... then I realized.. hey it can't be my hair I cut it.. its not that long.. then I proceed to feel as if someone is holding my shoulder and wispering in my ear.. Then I force myself to wake up... Needless to say I was scerd to go back to sleep.... :( graemlins/mecry.gif Oh yeah ... I've had that happen. One time I even felt someone climb into bed next to me. There were depressions in the bed wherever they leaned but there was NO ONE there! graemlins/scared.gif
Then I've had the sensation of a small creature sitting right on my chest. I'm frozen stiff in bed, wide awake but can't move or speak or scream. I've read there are things called incubus and succubus that do that to men and women. [/QUOTE]Serious guys...whoa! A couple of weeks ago in Montreal, I am getting ready to sleep and just as I was about to fall off, I hear a man's voice close to my ear speaking to me in a strange language really loud and mean. Scared the shit out of me...had to sleep with the light on. :(

Usually, I will hear someone yelling my name but this will happen when I am driving or just walking down the street. No one has ever spoken to me. :eek:

The last time I remember anything super weird happen was a good few months ago. I was doing my dishes at around 2am and I felt something behind me stroking my arm...not cool. However, my mother gets the same strange sensations...she can swear her mother came to visit her a few days after she had died.

And

08-02-2003, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Hippie:
Actually there is a sleep state ( I forget the name now) for this that is recognized by scientist. You sleep and you can fell like your awake but you can't get up. Meanwhile shit happens around you. I use to get it alot when I was younger. I learned how to control it so I would try to hold out as long as possible then when I wanted to wake I reminded myself it's just a dream and I would tell myself at the count of 3 I will wake and sure enough after counting to 3 I would wake. smile.gif I think hypnogoggia (sp) is the state you're talking about ... Hold on a sec ...

HYPNOGOGIA: An Explanation for Strange Nighttime Visitations

It was late at night; I awoke and saw a shape at the end of my bed. As the shape floated closer I could see that it was an old ugly woman. I tried to move but I was paralyzed. She moved onto my chest, I could feel her weight on me and I could smell her breath. I tried to move and scream but I couldn't. Suddenly, when I thought I could not take any more, she disappeared.

The above scenario is not an atypical one in paranormal literature. Many accounts involve sensing a presence, hearing footsteps, and the inability to move. Another common element of visitations is their occurrence at night while going to sleep or early in the morning upon waking from sleep. This characteristic is very important because it points to a more reasonable explanation than a paranormal one; that of a waking dream or hypnogogia.

Hypnogogia is a well described neurological phenomenon that can occur when one is waking up (hypnopompic) or going to sleep (hypnogogic). It is an in-between state where one is neither fully awake nor fully asleep. In this state very realistic images and sounds can be experienced. Although visual and auditory hallucinations are most common, experiences can range from hearing your name whispered to ones involving all the senses, including touch. They are in essence dream images that are occurring while you are awake. These waking dreams can be bizarre and terrifying and as such are often referred to as night terrors.

Also associated with hypnogogia is temporary paralysis. Normal sleep contains periods of REM (rapid eye movement-dream sleep) during which the brain stem inhibits, or turns off, the motor neurons in our spinal column, preventing any movement except for the eyes. Normally, this only occurs during dream sleep. The apparent reason for sleep paralysis is our safety. Without this safeguard, we would act out anything we were dreaming and most likely injure ourselves. Paralysis persists during waking dreams because the affected neurons have not been reactivated immediately as they normally should. Therefore waking dreams are in a sense a fusion of normal wakeful consciousness and the distinctive characteristics of dream sleep. We are indeed awake but the paralysis and bizarre imagery typical of dreaming have not yet loosed their hold.

Many sleep specialists are familiar with hypnogogia and sleep paralysis. They frequently encounter a sleep disorder called narcolepsy in which sufferers can, within moments and at any time of day, drop into REM-dream sleep (referred to as decreased REM latency). Other symptoms include excessive daytime sleepiness, cataplexy (sudden weakness often resulting in dropping to the ground), disrupted nighttime sleep, paralysis, and hypnogogic imagery. These last two symptoms, however, occur in 6-10% of the population independent of any pathology. They can often occur in normal individuals who have had recent sleep deprivation.
Reports of apparent waking dreams can be traced back to the Middle Ages when men and women recorded nighttime visitations of a sexual nature by demons called a succubus or incubus. In Newfoundland this visitor was called an Old Hag due to its frequent resemblance to an old woman. In the 19th century they were thought to be witches. Each culture and time interprets events in light of their outlooks and beliefs. Today, many people conclude that they have been visited by aliens. A textbook example can be found in Whitley Streiber's book Communion in which he describes waking up in the middle of the night, feeling paralyzed, and seeing strange alien-like beings.

All too often, people jump to an extraordinary explanation for an apparently extraordinary event. They rarely consider the more mundane but much more likely possibilities. Even if they do consider them, they quickly discount them in favor of the more fantastic and appealing option. The principle of Occam's Razor can help us in situations like this. This principle states that when choosing between two or more competing theories each of which can explain the observed facts, choose the simplest for it is the most likely to be true. This does not mean that the simplest theory is always right, but there is no need to believe a complicated theory if a simpler one does just as well.

Hypnogogia is a well understood neurological phenomenon which provides a compelling and elegant mundane explanation for many claims of alien or supernatural visitations. Of course, it is impossible to prove that all such claims are the result of hypnogogia. The burden of proof, however, is on those making supernatural or extraordinary claims to prove that their experiences are not due to hypnogogia, or other natural or commonplace causes. Also, it is easy to imagine how an individual who has had a hypnogogic hallucination with sleep paralysis, and who is not familiar with the neurological cause, will likely interpret their strange experience in terms of their cultural beliefs. Hypnogogia is therefore an excellent example of how resisting the temptation to accept emotionally appealing and fantastical explanations even for very bizarre experiences, and determinedly searching for a scientific explanation, can lead us out of superstition and into the light of reason.

http://www.theness.com/articles/hypnagogia-cs0102.html

[ August 02, 2003, 07:01 AM: Message edited by: 6 23 ]

And

08-02-2003, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by gf:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
Eww I hate dreams that tell you someone is dying....

speaking of dreams and sleeping has this ever happened to you...

Last night I was asleep. I heard a noise. I woke up look around see if anything was going on.. went back to sleep.. As I'm falling asleep I feel somethin pressing me down.. I tell myself ok I'm dreaming then I feel some thing stroke my hair and neck and i think to myself( in my sleep) oohh thats just my hair falling down onto my neck... then I realized.. hey it can't be my hair I cut it.. its not that long.. then I proceed to feel as if someone is holding my shoulder and wispering in my ear.. Then I force myself to wake up... Needless to say I was scerd to go back to sleep.... :( graemlins/mecry.gif Oh yeah ... I've had that happen. One time I even felt someone climb into bed next to me. There were depressions in the bed wherever they leaned but there was NO ONE there! graemlins/scared.gif
Then I've had the sensation of a small creature sitting right on my chest. I'm frozen stiff in bed, wide awake but can't move or speak or scream. I've read there are things called incubus and succubus that do that to men and women. [/QUOTE]Serious guys...whoa! A couple of weeks ago in Montreal, I am getting ready to sleep and just as I was about to fall off, I hear a man's voice close to my ear speaking to me in a strange language really loud and mean. Scared the shit out of me...had to sleep with the light on. :(

Usually, I will hear someone yelling my name but this will happen when I am driving or just walking down the street. No one has ever spoken to me. :eek:

The last time I remember anything super weird happen was a good few months ago. I was doing my dishes at around 2am and I felt something behind me stroking my arm...not cool. However, my mother gets the same strange sensations...she can swear her mother came to visit her a few days after she had died. [/QUOTE]There are explanations for some things ..
I don't believe all these weird happenings can be explained away with some sleep disorder .. Some maybe but not all ...
Speaking of which ... I think I've experienced that Cataplexy thing they're talking about in the article. A few weeks ago trying to make a sandwich, my knees buckled and I came to with my brothers staring at me all funny. Yesterday I almost dropped but made it to bed in time .. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/faint.gif

ivanjb

08-02-2003, 09:32 AM

Wow this is an interesting thread. I just woke up from a very strange dream of which I can remember quite a bit. I had been hanging out with long lost friends on an island I used to live on. It was one of those spontaneous gatherings at an apartment with good music and moods and we were all in the same outfits and styles and so on from the era (late 80's) when I used to hang with them. We were getting some stuff out of the freezer and I found an old striped shirt I used to love but half the stripes were faded off. That set me off for some reason and I woke up. I had this really haunting chorus looping through my head. Wish I could have recorded it somehow.

I think something was telling me to go back and gather some of the youthful energy I had back then and put it towards creativity.

I got out of bed, dropped Larry Heard's new album on and am now litening to it straight through for the first time. This man can do some really moving music.