Messiah or Anybody: Went to Shelter this week.........

[Basecore Boy]

I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am.

[ March 03, 2003, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]

[messiah]

Imma chill from the Shelter for a while. It has not done anything for me as of late. Thought about going Sunday when I woke up but was too relaxed to even consider taking the drive.

[Basecore Boy]

Do they have an Asian floor now or they like house music. That kind of freaked me out, never saw that many Asians at a house music party.

[messiah]

They just like the music. Unless they had a special party in the basement.

[MsAlayneous]

[ March 31, 2003, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: deepred ]

[Basecore Boy]

That's a good thang to have other folks liking the music. We always talk about Europeans and blacks fighting over who represents this music. Asian may be takin over the house scene.

[MsAlayneous]

[ March 31, 2003, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: deepred ]

[D J 1 3 8]

Downstairs has a lesbian party that goes on until 4 or 5, and it's not Asian-focused as far as I can tell.

[Basecore Boy]

It just tripped me out to see so many.

[Koffy Brown]

I hope we can have a shelter good time...April 12-13...that's my shelter weekend experience...

[TAD]

is there a problem with Asians supporting dance music?

[Basecore Boy]

No, it is a good thang. The more people the bigger the scene.

[TAD]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
The music was good, but maybe I went to early.then explain this quote.

[Maria]

Asians as you call them have practically single handedly supported the music since the very early nineties and probably earlier. They, the Japanese, according to at least one conversation I had with Kevin Hedge are the reason he can dedicate all his time to making music, they buy his (Blaze's) CDs like the shit was going out of style, while we wine and bitch about everything under the sun here. Yep that's the Asians for you and lets not even talk about the support they give to the Loft! There is no thanking those folks for how much they love the music and spend money to support. All of our biggest DJ's make buco (sp?) $$ in Japan, these guys spend upwards of $40 US just to get in the door to hear these DJs, need I say more? They turn out when Timmy plays there, so when I see em in the house I'm tickled pink. I showed up at 8:30am and I did not see an overwhelming number myself.

[Bill Blake]

I was at this restaurant in Tribecca on Saturday.

Funny thing was this place was very fine dinning and VERY expensive and low and behold there was this big table of black folks in the restaurant.

I had never seen that many black folks in a fine dinning restaurant before.

Wonder what that was about?

[MsAlayneous]

[ March 31, 2003, 04:39 PM: Message edited by: deepred ]

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Maria:
Asians as you call them have practically single handedly supported the music since the very early nineties and probably earlier. They, the Japanese, according to at least one conversation I had with Kevin Hedge are the reason he can dedicate all his time to making music, they buy his (Blaze's) CDs like the shit was going out of style, while we wine and bitch about everything under the sun here. Yep that's the Asians for you and lets not even talk about the support they give to the Loft! There is no thanking those folks for how much they love the music and spend money to support. All of our biggest DJ's make buco (sp?) $$ in Japan, these guys spend upwards of $40 US just to get in the door to hear these DJs, need I say more? They turn out when Timmy plays there, so when I see em in the house I'm tickled pink. I showed up at 8:30am and I did not see an overwhelming number myself.Thank you Maria - continue to teach lady!!! hail.gif

[Bill Blake]

I was also at the Shelter that night.

I went with an Asain too.

[Sharp Eye Washington]

I heard alot of African & Latino Americans were at the Shelter this weekend. Can this be confirmed?

[TAD]

i heard they were waiting for the Asians to leave b4 they decided to go in

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
i heard they were waiting for the Asians to leave b4 they decided to go inWell that makes sense...it's not like everyone can actually party together and have the same appreciation for the music that is played in there...I mean that is just unimaginable... :rolleyes:

[Master Kev]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
I was also at the Shelter that night.

I went with an Asain too.Sorry I missed you guys there. I got to Shelter around 8 AM. I was with liL Ray for a few hours. Someone mistakenly took his car keys and I didn't want to leave him by himself. Stayed at Shelter until around 10 and Timmy was ripping new sh*t.

[YUJI-SAN]

Originally posted by Maria:
Asians as you call them have practically single handedly supported the music since the very early nineties and probably earlier. They, the Japanese, according to at least one conversation I had with Kevin Hedge are the reason he can dedicate all his time to making music, they buy his (Blaze's) CDs like the shit was going out of style, while we wine and bitch about everything under the sun here. Yep that's the Asians for you and lets not even talk about the support they give to the Loft! There is no thanking those folks for how much they love the music and spend money to support. All of our biggest DJ's make buco (sp?) $$ in Japan, these guys spend upwards of $40 US just to get in the door to hear these DJs, need I say more? They turn out when Timmy plays there, so when I see em in the house I'm tickled pink. I showed up at 8:30am and I did not see an overwhelming number myself.thanks maria.

[Sharp Eye Washington]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
[QB]I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club.

Basecore wonders why NJ parties doesn't get the support from NY heads.

[TAD]

Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
i heard they were waiting for the Asians to leave b4 they decided to go inWell that makes sense...it's not like everyone can actually party together and have the same appreciation for the music that is played in there...I mean that is just unimaginable... :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]i agree

[TAC]

Yo brother man, you be saying some ignant sh*t.

Hisa Ishioka

Peace
TAC

[Maria]

You know I'm gettin' a little paranoid here, maybe I just missed the whole ball entirely. Is this whole Asian question just another pot shot at the Shelter? Some thinly veiled criticism by the love committee of haters? :( ,,,ok I'm goin home to a glass of wine, I got suckered again... :rolleyes:

[Soleful]

I'm just curious if any of those Japanese (how come they couldn't of been Korean, Chinese, Philipino,etc. don't they all look alike) just happened to be GAY??? graemlins/scared.gif Now that would've been scandalous

[Tenyu]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am.this is the first time i've been glad to hear that an old head doesn't go to shelter anymore... or at least frequently

[Basecore Boy]

It's funny how people look for something to attack folks. I was just surprised to see all the Asians there. The Shelter in the past had alot of blacks and latino.

They should name the board Deep House Page attacks.

People everything is not hate. If you guys read my post, I'm in favor of more people getting involved in this music.

Yes, I know the history about the Japanese loving this music. Dah

Respect.

[Basecore Boy]

Originally posted by Maria:
You know I'm gettin' a little paranoid here, maybe I just missed the whole ball entirely. Is this whole Asian question just another pot shot at the Shelter? Some thinly veiled criticism by the love committee of haters? :( ,,,ok I'm goin home to a glass of wine, I got suckered again... :rolleyes: Maria,

This was not a pot shot at Shelter. Why is that as soon as you say the word Shelter, people look for you to be dissing them. I think people want to say bad thing about the Shelter and are just chickens to do so. I have no ill feelings for Shelter. They never crossed me and they don't stop my flow. Me and my organization have alot to benefit from the Shelter doing well. Try this with someone else. I'm not your guy.

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
It's funny how people look for something to attack folks. I was just surprised to see all the Asians there. The Shelter in the past had alot of blacks and latino.

They should name the board Deep House Page attacks.

People everything is not hate. If you guys read my post, I'm in favor of more people getting involved in this music.

Yes, I know the history about the Japanese loving this music. Dah

Respect.The way your post was written did NOT convey that - if anything it made you sound ignorant. Consider thinking about what you write prior to writing and how it may be taken as offensive - which your post was to me and I ain't even Asian. Go back and read what you wrote and see if you can see how it might have been taken offensively and WHY people attacked what you wrote - again it speaks volumes. There is a REASON TAC, myself and others wrote those responses. Just because the crack pipe is there doesn't mean you have to point it out to everyone, much less smoke it. Comprende?

[Basecore Boy]

Could it be that you are reading it in a negative way. I was just surprised to see that many Asians. Remember I used to be employed by them and did not see that many then. That's all.

Stop putting spins on my writing. Aren't you one of those who were attacking me with your other friend. Oh, I see.

[ March 04, 2003, 08:11 AM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]

[Cheddar]

Another trait evident in a certain outspoken group of people on this board:
Make some wild ass statements...which provoke response..followed by a full retreat and defensive...

[Basecore Boy]

Believe me folks if I have anything I want to say. I will call names and blast folks. I'm not like most folks on this board that are pussies. I will say exactly what I mean. Why does everybody want me to diss Shelter. graemlins/nono.gif

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Could it be that you are reading it in a negative way. I was just surprised to see that many Asians. Remember I used to be employed by them and did not see that many then. That's all.

Stop putting spins on my writing. Aren't you one of those who were attacking me with your other friend. Oh, I see.At some point you'll stop being on the constant defensive and listen and learn. Words are not alway interpreted they way you intend - but I suppose you have to be somewhat adult to understand that - which everyone reaches that point at their own designated time. As for me attacking you with my "other friend". I have no idea what you mean. If you mean I pointed something out to you that you never considered - well then I suppose I am guilty as charged on that. Although in the future, I'd rather you name exactly who I was in cahoots with and specifically what I attacked you on - it just makes the process that much easier. smile.gif

[DJ76]

I don't see where he was being offensive, asides from asking if there was an "asian floor" graemlins/rofl.gif
Y'all very sensitive. Unless there's some prior story or inside between you and the original poster, which there seems to be, his post taken word for word doesn't seem offensive.

[Basecore Boy]

Some people like shit!

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Do they have an Asian floor now or they like house music. That kind of freaked me out, never saw that many Asians at a house music party. Do they have a Black floor now or they like House Music. Never saw that many Blacks and it freaked me out. Maybe I should go later next time...Oh by the way substitute Black/Asian for whatever Nationality you are ok.

[Basecore Boy]

Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Do they have an Asian floor now or they like house music. That kind of freaked me out, never saw that many Asians at a house music party. Do they have a Black floor now or they like House Music. Never saw that many Blacks and it freaked me out. Maybe I should go later next time...Oh by the way substitute Black/Asian for whatever Nationality you are ok.</font>[/QUOTE]Are you one of the board keepers. Timmy Regisford, oh Timmy Richardson.

hail.gif

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Do they have an Asian floor now or they like house music. That kind of freaked me out, never saw that many Asians at a house music party. Do they have a Black floor now or they like House Music. Never saw that many Blacks and it freaked me out. Maybe I should go later next time...Oh by the way substitute Black/Asian for whatever Nationality you are ok.</font>[/QUOTE]Are you one of the board keepers. Timmy Regisford, oh Timmy Richardson.

hail.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I wish you enough.....

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Master Kev:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
I was also at the Shelter that night.

I went with an Asain too.Sorry I missed you guys there. I got to Shelter around 8 AM. I was with liL Ray for a few hours. Someone mistakenly took his car keys and I didn't want to leave him by himself. Stayed at Shelter until around 10 and Timmy was ripping new sh*t.</font>[/QUOTE]Cool mo deal

[Basecore Boy]

You know what is funny. How I talk to other folks around the United States and they say that the board has a crew of people that actively chase folks of the board that doesn't follow them.

I'm sure everyone know who they are. If anybody has anything they like to attack me on see me in the street. Face to Face.

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

I think we need to pull out Lil Ray's post about baiters...In these instances silence would be golden. You and your organization just dont realize how petty you look.

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:

I'm sure everyone know who they are. If anybody has anything they like to attack me on see me in the street. Face to Face.I'll make sure I bring all my Asian Brothers & Sisters with me!!

[Basecore Boy]

Another guy thinking they are the gospel to house music.

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Another guy thinking they are the gospel to house music.This is why you get clowned...
Stop talking about other people and state your case (gospel) already.

[JL]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
You know what is funny. How I talk to other folks around the United States and they say that the board has a crew of people that actively chase folks of the board that doesn't follow them.

I'm sure everyone know who they are. If anybody has anything they like to attack me on see me in the street. Face to Face.You said made an ignorant comment, got called out for it by the DHP massive (thanks guys, this means lots to the KAZI), and now you're squirming. Be a man, say you said some stupid shit, and let's move on.

I went to the library and saw a bunch of latinos and blacks, that was really weird this past weekend. I'm used to only seeing whites and asians up in there.

What you said is essentially the same as what I wrote above.

[Maria]

I am not "trying" anything, am I clear? I call it the way I see it as you claim to be doing. I did write that I'm probably getting paranoid but you ignore that. I left myself a little bit of space because I'm essentially an optimist. So let me spell it out since you clearly asked why "people respond like this".

It was just 1996 when these here boards lit up with "the Shelter's goin' down" "ain't nobody showin' up at the Shelter no more" "the core Shelter crowd doesn't come any more, it ain't black enough". So when I start reading insinuations that the "shelter's not black enough" AGAIN in whichever form that insinuation comes, I ain't feelin' it. I can't get any clearer in explaining myself.

I expect you will repeat yourself and write that you were just making an observation without any agenda attached to it, and thats ok too I truly hope you're sincere. But there is one thing I've learned on these here boards and that is that EVERYONE and I repeat EVERYONE has an agenda. Mine is to keep the party goin. I care about the music, its the only regularly running party that makes no compromises, you never step into the Shelter and wonder. You know its black music, Timmy makes sure you know it. My father taught me that before I ever knew there was a Timmy Regisford, I inherited his love of it and I support it. I don't try to give it fancy f**ckin names to please anybody else's palate.

So I attended the party back then when there were maybe a 100 people on the floor, and I said to myself I will be here till I'm the last one. I will pass on this torch if I have to freakin' party till I'm 70 to do it. That's my friggin' agenda, out there for everyone to read. I don't get paid for it, I'm not affiliated in the business of Shelter or any other organization in any which way. I just know that the music and the culture is a part of my life and for whatever its worth I think its opened up my eyes and my world. What's your agenda?

[Cheddar]

***sound of a pin being dropped***

[Leslie]

Basecore Boy, why don't you join us on Friday night "face to face" at 2i's?

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by Leslie:
Basecore Boy, why don't you join us on Friday night "face to face" at 2i's?Flyer courtesy of my Asian Brother..Kai Kuo

http://unixcore.com/~statuskuo/temp/030703.jpg

[Leslie]

Remember, the Truth shall set you free... ;)

[Basecore Boy]

I respect everyone here and if I offended anyone. I'm very sorry. Peace.

[mdpm99]

Maria as always, is profound - and one can learn from her wisdom. smile.gif

Jamie Lennox....u r 2 real and funny at the same time. smile.gif

The Japanese community respects and has supported the House Music Scene here and wherever there is House music.........100%.

d

[ March 04, 2003, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[d.j. earon]

Originally posted by Maria:
I am not "trying" anything, am I clear? I call it the way I see it as you claim to be doing. I did write that I'm probably getting paranoid but you ignore that. I left myself a little bit of space because I'm essentially an optimist. So let me spell it out since you clearly asked why "people respond like this".

It was just 1996 when these here boards lit up with "the Shelter's goin' down" "ain't nobody showin' up at the Shelter no more" "the core Shelter crowd doesn't come any more, it ain't black enough". So when I start reading insinuations that the "shelter's not black enough" AGAIN in whichever form that insinuation comes, I ain't feelin' it. I can't get any clearer in explaining myself.

I expect you will repeat yourself and write that you were just making an observation without any agenda attached to it, and thats ok too I truly hope you're sincere. But there is one thing I've learned on these here boards and that is that EVERYONE and I repeat EVERYONE has an agenda. Mine is to keep the party goin. I care about the music, its the only regularly running party that makes no compromises, you never step into the Shelter and wonder. You know its black music, Timmy makes sure you know it. My father taught me that before I ever knew there was a Timmy Regisford, I inherited his love of it and I support it. I don't try to give it fancy f**ckin names to please anybody else's palate.

So I attended the party back then when there were maybe a 100 people on the floor, and I said to myself I will be here till I'm the last one. I will pass on this torch if I have to freakin' party till I'm 70 to do it. That's my friggin' agenda, out there for everyone to read. I don't get paid for it, I'm not affiliated in the business of Shelter or any other organization in any which way. I just know that the music and the culture is a part of my life and for whatever its worth I think its opened up my eyes and my world. What's your agenda?...RESPECT... graemlins/clap.gif

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by Leslie:
Basecore Boy, why don't you join us on Friday night "face to face" at 2i's?I'll have your card for you Friday ..you have earned it
:D

[Basecore Boy]

What's my agenda: The music and respect for all people, not those who team up together to attack others. If I move to NYC can I become one of the team members.

[ March 04, 2003, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]

[Basecore Boy]

[ March 04, 2003, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's my agenda: The music and respect for all people, not just those who team up together to attack others.I don't think anyone would have "attacked" you had you not posted something which was interpreted (perhaps wrongly so) as being derogatory towards Asian people at Shelter.

I'm sure you can re-read your post and see why people interpreted it this way.

[Basecore Boy]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's my agenda: The music and respect for all people, not just those who team up together to attack others.I don't think anyone would have "attacked" you had you not posted something which was interpreted (perhaps wrongly so) as being derogatory towards Asian people at Shelter.

I'm sure you can re-read your post and see why people interpreted it this way.</font>[/QUOTE]I keep reading and don't see what others see. Negativity.

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's my agenda: The music and respect for all people, not just those who team up together to attack others.I don't think anyone would have "attacked" you had you not posted something which was interpreted (perhaps wrongly so) as being derogatory towards Asian people at Shelter.

I'm sure you can re-read your post and see why people interpreted it this way.</font>[/QUOTE]I keep reading and don't see what others see. Negativity.</font>[/QUOTE]What was positive about it...Enighten us

[Basecore Boy]

I thought it was a great thang having a large portion of Asian here in America supporting dance music. I just wanted to know was this going on at the Shelter now or was it a one nighter.

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
[QUOTE]I keep reading and don't see what others see. Negativity.Allow me to explain, and I'm not trying to be a smart-ass. You posted this:

"I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am."

In particular, this line is what seems to have gotten folks attention: "The music was good, but maybe I went too early."

I think people interpreted this as "the music was good, but the scene/vibe was not." if that is the interpretation, the inferrence is that the scene was not good because of the presence of a lot of Asian folks. This is a leap of association but it is based solely on your prior comment about the abundance of Asian people that night. The further implication of "maybe I went too early" is that "perhaps it would have been better if I waited until the Asian folks had left/more regs showed up".

Again, it is completely possible that this was not your intention. However, it was interpreted as such, so people asked you to explain yourself.

We all know that by posting something in a public forum, we run the risk of our post being misinterpreted. All we can do is defend it or try to clarify it further.

From your responses, I do believe that this was not what you meant by your original post. But as we all know, race, support for the scene, and above all else, SHELTER, are sensitive topics on the DHP.

Peace.

[Basecore Boy]

No, I was looking for old friends also. That's why I said maybe I went to early.

Respect.

[TAD]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
No, I was looking for old friends also. That's why I said maybe I went to early.

Respect.ahahahahahhaha. please don't cry me a river.

[flypitcher]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am.I think board members are being over zealous here as to the opening post.First of all he states that he went to the Shelter and admits he has not attended in several months. He says this as way of explanation to his question"Did they have a special event going on?" The reason he is asking this is because he saw a lot of Asians there and in the past times he has went to shelter there has never been large amounts of "Asians" which he confirms by saying that Shelter has definitely changed since the last time he went here.

He does not say that too many Asians spoil the mix or criticize them or the Shelter infact he says the music was good.

Too many of dhp members attack prematurely and form petty cliques which in the end will alienate newer people who have a contribution to make and ultimately the demise of the board.

Take time to read g-man's comments about the personal attacks, I feel he is getting tired of having to adjudicate between who talks the worst shit.(myself included)

The board is a labour of love for him and it wouldn't surprise me if he just closes the message board and carries on putting up the mixes because after all it is about the music isn't it?

Think twice before you type once.

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
No, I was looking for old friends also. That's why I said maybe I went to early.

Respect.ahahahahahhaha. please don't cry me a river.</font>[/QUOTE]LOL

[mhd]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I respect everyone here and if I offended anyone. I'm very sorry. Peace.Respect

[TAD]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I respect everyone here and if I offended anyone. I'm very sorry. Peace.Respect</font>[/QUOTE]true

[JL]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I respect everyone here and if I offended anyone. I'm very sorry. Peace.Respect</font>[/QUOTE]word

[DJ Rated M]

Originally posted by flypitcher:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am.I think board members are being over zealous here as to the opening post.First of all he states that he went to the Shelter and admits he has not attended in several months. He says this as way of explanation to his question"Did they have a special event going on?" The reason he is asking this is because he saw a lot of Asians there and in the past times he has went to shelter there has never been large amounts of "Asians" which he confirms by saying that Shelter has definitely changed since the last time he went here.

He does not say that too many Asians spoil the mix or criticize them or the Shelter infact he says the music was good.

Too many of dhp members attack prematurely and form petty cliques which in the end will alienate newer people who have a contribution to make and ultimately the demise of the board.

Take time to read g-man's comments about the personal attacks, I feel he is getting tired of having to adjudicate between who talks the worst shit.(myself included)

The board is a labour of love for him and it wouldn't surprise me if he just closes the message board and carries on putting up the mixes because after all it is about the music isn't it?

Think twice before you type once.</font>[/QUOTE]WORD!!!

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by flypitcher:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am.I think board members are being over zealous here as to the opening post.First of all he states that he went to the Shelter and admits he has not attended in several months. He says this as way of explanation to his question"Did they have a special event going on?" The reason he is asking this is because he saw a lot of Asians there and in the past times he has went to shelter there has never been large amounts of "Asians" which he confirms by saying that Shelter has definitely changed since the last time he went here.

He does not say that too many Asians spoil the mix or criticize them or the Shelter infact he says the music was good.

Too many of dhp members attack prematurely and form petty cliques which in the end will alienate newer people who have a contribution to make and ultimately the demise of the board.

Take time to read g-man's comments about the personal attacks, I feel he is getting tired of having to adjudicate between who talks the worst shit.(myself included)

The board is a labour of love for him and it wouldn't surprise me if he just closes the message board and carries on putting up the mixes because after all it is about the music isn't it?

Think twice before you type once.</font>[/QUOTE]Indeed you have a slight point.
Although..there is no clique..there are just many people who happen to agree on something...it is perpetual...you never see people arguing.."yo Timmy is the best, yadadadada...." OR "Timmy gets no Respect"...the arguments are always over someone putting out some bait and when bitten starts to whine a lil bit.

As per your remark..the same can be said about people who in all reality are insulting everyone else's intelligence with the fart breathed stuff they post...just to prompt response.

[statuskuo]

Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by flypitcher:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am.I think board members are being over zealous here as to the opening post.First of all he states that he went to the Shelter and admits he has not attended in several months. He says this as way of explanation to his question"Did they have a special event going on?" The reason he is asking this is because he saw a lot of Asians there and in the past times he has went to shelter there has never been large amounts of "Asians" which he confirms by saying that Shelter has definitely changed since the last time he went here.

He does not say that too many Asians spoil the mix or criticize them or the Shelter infact he says the music was good.

Too many of dhp members attack prematurely and form petty cliques which in the end will alienate newer people who have a contribution to make and ultimately the demise of the board. Take time to read g-man's comments about the personal attacks, I feel he is getting tired of having to adjudicate between who talks the worst shit.(myself included)The board is a labour of love for him and it wouldn't surprise me if he just closes the message board and carries on putting up the mixes because after all it is about the music isn't it? Think twice before you type once.</font>[/QUOTE]WORD!!!</font>[/QUOTE]JERZEEE!

[kim lightfoot]

just imagine how all our asian friends and supporters of dance music must feel when they read posts like this...damn :(

[mattymatt]

Originally posted by Maria:
I am not "trying" anything, am I clear? I call it the way I see it as you claim to be doing. I did write that I'm probably getting paranoid but you ignore that. I left myself a little bit of space because I'm essentially an optimist. So let me spell it out since you clearly asked why "people respond like this".

It was just 1996 when these here boards lit up with "the Shelter's goin' down" "ain't nobody showin' up at the Shelter no more" "the core Shelter crowd doesn't come any more, it ain't black enough". So when I start reading insinuations that the "shelter's not black enough" AGAIN in whichever form that insinuation comes, I ain't feelin' it. I can't get any clearer in explaining myself.

I expect you will repeat yourself and write that you were just making an observation without any agenda attached to it, and thats ok too I truly hope you're sincere. But there is one thing I've learned on these here boards and that is that EVERYONE and I repeat EVERYONE has an agenda. Mine is to keep the party goin. I care about the music, its the only regularly running party that makes no compromises, you never step into the Shelter and wonder. You know its black music, Timmy makes sure you know it. My father taught me that before I ever knew there was a Timmy Regisford, I inherited his love of it and I support it. I don't try to give it fancy f**ckin names to please anybody else's palate.

So I attended the party back then when there were maybe a 100 people on the floor, and I said to myself I will be here till I'm the last one. I will pass on this torch if I have to freakin' party till I'm 70 to do it. That's my friggin' agenda, out there for everyone to read. I don't get paid for it, I'm not affiliated in the business of Shelter or any other organization in any which way. I just know that the music and the culture is a part of my life and for whatever its worth I think its opened up my eyes and my world. What's your agenda?this is why i spend way too much time reading this message board. thanks maria.

[And]

Dj 138 and Flypitcher, I applaud the way the two of you addressed this issue.
People have feelings, posted messages are misinterpreted all the time. It's important we all keep as much of an open mind as possible when handling issues like this.

[YoRel]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I went to Shelter this week. I have not attended in several months. Did they have a special event going on, because I saw a large group of Asian in the club. The club has definitely changed since my last time there. The music was good, but maybe I went to early. I left about 5:30am.I was also at the Shelter last weekend. I didn't see any Asian. :eek: It may have been because my friend that I was with took my glasses. mad1.gif She thought I was looking at another woman. I couldn't see anything after that.LOL
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[liL Ray]

Almost 80 posts and I didn't have to say a thing.... biggrinangel.gif

[ March 04, 2003, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]