Question:Who in the hell records the audio samples for Dancetracks website??

[Jamie 3:26]

Man,I will never buy a damn play copy from them.They just rip the damn needle off of the record and switch tracks.Not professional at all.

[ August 12, 2003, 12:19 PM: Message edited by: JAMIE 3:26 ]

[mdpm99]

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[ August 12, 2003, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[rob gregory]

Peace.

You're right. However, I've just chalked it up to them having a lot of sound clips to do and they are trying to do it as quickly as possible.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
I for one can't say I am surprised with anything dance tricks, opps dance tracks does.

graemlins/rofl.gif

d Ps. this is the bootleg version of someone else's message. biggrinangel.gif

[Brut by Faberge]

LOL! I agree, that is very annoying.

Gotta say, satelliterecords.com has nice samples. Very clear, and each track fades out rather than just being disemboweled at the end, and they have a lot of stock to put online too!

peace

[Tony Cano]

if you dont like it, go somewhere else.

graemlins/tongueout.gif

[DJ76]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
I for one can't say I am surprised with anything dance tricks, opps dance tracks does.

graemlins/rofl.gif

d Ps. this is the bootleg version of someone else's message. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]oh ho ho ho! The whip came out.... swoooooshhhhh!
I must say I'm guilty of buying those that I have not found the originals of. :( But once I do, I buy them too.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by Tony Cano:
if you dont like it, go somewhere else.

graemlins/tongueout.gif Hey,man it's been 4 years since I first started goin to that site.I guess today it really drove me up the wall. graemlins/rofl.gif

[YUJI-SAN]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Man,I will never buy a damn play copy from them.They just rip the damn needle off of the record and switch tracks.Not professional at all. hahahahahaa Yo you aint lying Jamie, this one time when I was listening to a clip, dude was back cueing for like 5 seconds like he was going to make a mix lol. and another time all I heard was 2 mins of silence lol. icon_rofl.gif

[Tony Cano]

i've noticed this too. just giving the typical nyc respone. people are so angry.

smile.gif

tc

[AD]

That used to bug the hell outta me at first, but now you get used it. In fact, I expect that ripping of the needle on the virgin vinyl. I wonder who gets that copy of scratched vinyl? :eek:

[D J 1 3 8]

I digress slightly, but have you been in Satellite records lately? That place looks like a bomb went off and all the records that were remotely new got magically replaced with 2-3 year old leftovers. What the hell is going on there?

[Tony Cano]

you try getting someone at dance tracks to pick up the phone?

:eek:

[housebe4titties]

i've heard more complaints than good things about satellite.com.
anyone here try deepfix(deepfixrecords.com)?
they have longer, clearer samples than most sites i've come across. and 2 day shipping.

[illiciumverum]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
I for one can't say I am surprised with anything dance tricks, opps dance tracks does.

graemlins/rofl.gif

d Ps. this is the bootleg version of someone else's message. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]nice graemlins/rofl.gif

[YUJI-SAN]

Originally posted by Tony Cano:
you try getting someone at dance tracks to pick up the phone?

:eek: Phil D is too busy mixing than worrying about some phone ringing hahahaa icon_rofl.gif

[kev]

ha ha ha. I've heard sound clips from DT where whoever was recording it had it on the wrong speed. Then silence for 5 seconds. |And then the song at the right speed.

[Tony Cano]

Originally posted by YUJI-SAN:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tony Cano:
you try getting someone at dance tracks to pick up the phone?

:eek: Phil D is too busy mixing than worrying about some phone ringing hahahaa icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]i know. it's hard to be mad at them. graemlins/lol.gif

[saadir7]

the needle moving never bothered me.
i figured they were trying to showcase
different parts of the song.
i like dance tracks; i buy a lot of
stuff from there.
yo dave, why'd you call them "dance tricks"?

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by saadir7:
the needle moving never bothered me.
i figured they were trying to showcase
different parts of the song.
i like dance tracks; i buy a lot of
stuff from there.
yo dave, why'd you call them "dance tricks"? Long story.....

graemlins/cool_shades.gif

d

Ps.

Albert: Great point re "who gets the "needle scratched copy" - purrhaps no one? Good point tho'

[TAD]

how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price.

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. True, but the only other option is to not let you listen to records on your own. Personally, I prefer to have the option. I buy stuff at Dancetracks all the time.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. Greetings Cosmic_Twin:

Hope your day is everything you wish it to be.

Imagine a record store being a food store. And your food had fingerprints all over it. Lot of these stores (not all) have no respect for the customer nor for music. Their behavaior is disgraceful. We should stand up for our rights and "peacefully" shout back whenever it is called for.

d

If music be the food of love, play on.

-Shakespeare

[TAC]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. This is a tough one. Generally, your right. If there are unopened copies left, I insist on having a fresh unopened copy. Also, if its an import that I opened and played, then I make it a point to take that very copy.

But if its the last copy, then in the grand scheme of things, IMO, its only one record. Remember, WE, yes WE buy a lot of music, and one dusty record is not going to make or break us. Besides, if it is really that dirty, but that good, you can always take the record home and give it a "bath."

FWIW, the folks at Dancetracks try hard to please. This has been the case over the years, even when Joe Clausell, Jennifa, Kemati, et al. worked there.

Now that Phil is there, there is continuity. I really will not speak bad about them because they do right by me.

Peace

[ August 13, 2003, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: TAC ]

[Tony Cano]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. Greetings Cosmic_Twin:

Hope your day is everything you wish it to be.

Imagine a record store being a food store. And your food had fingerprints all over it. Lot of these stores (not all) have no respect for the customer nor for music. Their behavaior is disgraceful. We should stand up for our rights and "peacefully" shout back whenever it is called for.

d

If music be the food of love, play on.

-Shakespeare </font>[/QUOTE]agreed. i hate when djs stuff their records in milk crates. they don't even fit. the jackets extend outside the milk crate and get bent and torn.

i dont see this as much as i did when i was younger.

[rob brito]

Originally posted by YUJI-SAN:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tony Cano:
you try getting someone at dance tracks to pick up the phone?

:eek: Phil D is too busy mixing than worrying about some phone ringing hahahaa icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/grinyes.gif

[TAC]

Originally posted by Tony Cano:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. Greetings Cosmic_Twin:

Hope your day is everything you wish it to be.

Imagine a record store being a food store. And your food had fingerprints all over it. Lot of these stores (not all) have no respect for the customer nor for music. Their behavaior is disgraceful. We should stand up for our rights and "peacefully" shout back whenever it is called for.

d

If music be the food of love, play on.

-Shakespeare </font>[/QUOTE]agreed. i hate when djs stuff their records in milk crates. they don't even fit. the jackets extend outside the milk crate and get bent and torn.

i dont see this as much as i did when i was younger. </font>[/QUOTE]So you saying I'm obselete? Old school in the house. Bad back, worn out knees from carrying the crates. Every-damn-thing!!! icon_rofl.gif

[jimmymack-2000]

Originally posted by TAC:
If there are unopened copies left, I insist on having a fresh unopened copy.Some of the most badly warped records I ever bought were "still sealed"... :(

[TAD]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. Greetings Cosmic_Twin:

Hope your day is everything you wish it to be.

Imagine a record store being a food store. And your food had fingerprints all over it. Lot of these stores (not all) have no respect for the customer nor for music. Their behavaior is disgraceful. We should stand up for our rights and "peacefully" shout back whenever it is called for.

d

If music be the food of love, play on.

-Shakespeare </font>[/QUOTE]Hello David,

Blessings to you.

i like to shout but more often than not my bark is louder than my bite & and that can be a problem. icon_rofl.gif

[jsd540]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. Greetings Cosmic_Twin:

Hope your day is everything you wish it to be.

Imagine a record store being a food store. And your food had fingerprints all over it.
d

If music be the food of love, play on.

-Shakespeare </font>[/QUOTE]I love a a little greasy food once and a while and a little grimy vinyl from time to time. icon_rofl.gif

[TAC]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
If there are unopened copies left, I insist on having a fresh unopened copy.Some of the most badly warped records I ever bought were "still sealed"... :( </font>[/QUOTE]That's because you don't know your sh*t (not really a diss, more a joke. In other words, just kidding). But you can tell home much a record is warped by looking at the tension on the shrink wrap. Also, these things come in batches. So if the play copy is warped, there's a good chance the unopened copy is warped. Generally, what I do from here is go through the
entire batch and look for the record that is least warped.


Peace
TAC

[kev]

I bought a record from DT via their mail order system and the damn thing came to me cracked in half. The rubber band they rapped around the record was too tight. That was the only mishap I've had from them. I bought a ton of records from them when Tyrone Francis worked there. He always hooked me up with the hot sh!t.

[TAD]

Originally posted by TAC:
This is a tough one. Generally, your right. If there are unopened copies left, I insist on having a fresh unopened copy. Also, if its an import that I opened and played, then I make it a point to take that very copy.

But if its the last copy, then in the grand scheme of things, IMO, its only one record. Remember, WE, yes WE buy a lot of music, and one dusty record is not going to make or break us. Besides, if it is really that dirty, but that good, you can always take the record home and give it a "bath."

FWIW, the folks at Dancetracks try hard to please. This has been the case over the years, even when Joe Clausell, Jennifa, Kemati, et al. worked there.

Now that Phil is there, there is continuity. I really will not speak bad about them because they do right by me.

Peace most imports have no shrink rap. there's a store in my neck of the woods that removes the shrink rap from all domestic copies prior to shelving them. you have stock items that have been sitting in the bins for months that have been listened to over & over again but are not marked down.

also how often do the stores change the stylus. it takes only one play with a worn stylus to ruin a record. you can hear the grittiness after the second play with a perfectly good stylus. you can actually watch the grooves change shade while the dirty needle tracks. it's a no win situation.

i value my collection & treat it with respect. i wipe my records before each play & never touch the surface. i've stopped loaning records out because most jocks don't give a shit.

also why should i pay full price & then go home & clean my record. they should pay me to clean it.

[DJ Rated M]

Originally posted by casscade:
i've heard more complaints than good things about satellite.com.
anyone here try deepfix(deepfixrecords.com)?
they have longer, clearer samples than most sites i've come across. and 2 day shipping. Satellite used to be the BOMB...especially when they had they old store.......they had stuff you couldn't find anywhere else..........they fell off bad....the website is wack now too....

[AgentDoubleA]

"have you been in Satellite records lately? That place looks like a bomb went off and all the records that were remotely new got magically replaced with 2-3 year old leftovers. "

Went there (NY) on a last minute shopping spree b4 heading to the airport. To say the least I left unimpressed. First cause they were'nt carrying any Smooth Agent stuff biggrinangel.gif , and second everything was 2-3 months old :( . I did leave a new one sided Defected promo that looked like someone was eating Fried Chicken and listening to the record at the same time.

[larry rauson]

When I was working at Dancetracks, how many clowns got cussed out for mishandling the records? plenty. it's my experience the main ones that want sealed copies of records are the primary ones that don't know how to handle a damn record. I'd make em buy the play copies, especially after they've played frisbee wit the damn thing.

Larry "You'd better buy that damn record, no, that damn record" Rauson

[ August 13, 2003, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: larry rauson ]

[DJ Rated M]

Originally posted by AgentDoubleA:
"have you been in Satellite records lately? That place looks like a bomb went off and all the records that were remotely new got magically replaced with 2-3 year old leftovers. "

Went there (NY) on a last minute shopping spree b4 heading to the airport. To say the least I left unimpressed. First cause they were'nt carrying any Smooth Agent stuff biggrinangel.gif , and second everything was 2-3 months old :( . I did leave a new one sided Defected promo that looked like someone was eating Fried Chicken and listening to the record at the same time. it "used" to be good....

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. Greetings Cosmic_Twin:

Hope your day is everything you wish it to be.

Imagine a record store being a food store. And your food had fingerprints all over it. Lot of these stores (not all) have no respect for the customer nor for music. Their behavaior is disgraceful. We should stand up for our rights and "peacefully" shout back whenever it is called for.

d

If music be the food of love, play on.

-Shakespeare </font>[/QUOTE]Hello David,

Blessings to you.

i like to shout but more often than not my bark is louder than my bite & and that can be a problem. icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I hear ya'

smile.gif

d

Sometimes even the fig branch will wilt.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by larry rauson:
When I was working at Dancetracks, how many clowns got cussed out for mishandling the records? plenty. it's my experience the main ones that want sealed copies of records are the primary ones that don't know how to handle a damn record. I'd make em buy the play copies, especially after they've played frisbee wit the damn thing.

Larry "You'd better buy that damn record, no, that damn record" Rauson Greetings Sire:

You are making a good point.....Did they have a
"customer copy" - handle with care.... that would state such? -- whenever possible of course.

d

[ August 13, 2003, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[larry rauson]

Mr. Mancuso, the pleasure is mine, and in response to your previous reply to this thread, my response would be a good number of dj's are illiterate, and, or blind. There is in fact a sign at DT's stating handle the vinyl with care.

Larry

[TAC]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
This is a tough one. Generally, your right. If there are unopened copies left, I insist on having a fresh unopened copy. Also, if its an import that I opened and played, then I make it a point to take that very copy.

But if its the last copy, then in the grand scheme of things, IMO, its only one record. Remember, WE, yes WE buy a lot of music, and one dusty record is not going to make or break us. Besides, if it is really that dirty, but that good, you can always take the record home and give it a "bath."

FWIW, the folks at Dancetracks try hard to please. This has been the case over the years, even when Joe Clausell, Jennifa, Kemati, et al. worked there.

Now that Phil is there, there is continuity. I really will not speak bad about them because they do right by me.

Peace most imports have no shrink rap. there's a store in my neck of the woods that removes the shrink rap from all domestic copies prior to shelving them. you have stock items that have been sitting in the bins for months that have been listened to over & over again but are not marked down.

also how often do the stores change the stylus. it takes only one play with a worn stylus to ruin a record. you can hear the grittiness after the second play with a perfectly good stylus. you can actually watch the grooves change shade while the dirty needle tracks. it's a no win situation.

i value my collection & treat it with respect. i wipe my records before each play & never touch the surface. i've stopped loaning records out because most jocks don't give a shit.

also why should i pay full price & then go home & clean my record. they should pay me to clean it. </font>[/QUOTE]Like I said, its a tough issue... I agree with you in all aspects.

[E-Phi]

Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
Satellite used to be the BOMB...especially when they had they old store.......they had stuff you couldn't find anywhere else..........they fell off bad....the website is wack now too.... PROCESSING...............

[Javier Drada]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
If there are unopened copies left, I insist on having a fresh unopened copy.Some of the most badly warped records I ever bought were "still sealed"... :( </font>[/QUOTE]You know I get allot of warped records from them too...

[ August 13, 2003, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: Javier Drada ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by larry rauson:
Mr. Mancuso, the pleasure is mine, and in response to your previous reply to this thread, my response would be a good number of dj's are illiterate, and, or blind. There is in fact a sign at DT's stating handle the vinyl with care.

Larry Greetings larry:

When I worked at Dub Spot (I sure miss that place)
I would cringe and become literally nauseous if someone started to handle the vinyl poorly. I would try to find gentle ways to get them to be more careful. I was shocked by some ...whom I never thought would do such a thing.

Thank you larry for your response smile.gif

d

[mylesdakat]

my first experience with dt was a nightmare. i got a warped record a couple records i didn't even buy and they backordered at least half of my order (which i still never got). so i called them to try to correct things. after speaking to the cat on the phone i realized that this was a lost cause. since then everything has been ok. no major complaints here.
to me it beats waiting in line at gramaphone for a needle. i find more stuff that i want and i find some of their stuff to be cheaper than satellite

[Kenrick _]

Originally posted by E-Phi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
Satellite used to be the BOMB...especially when they had they old store.......they had stuff you couldn't find anywhere else..........they fell off bad....the website is wack now too.... PROCESSING............... </font>[/QUOTE]hahahahahahah, i know right.

something is terribly wrong over there. i am now waiting a week and almost a half for my purchase and i only live in JERSEY!!! (i normally get delivery 2 business days, three tops)

some of what the site said to be in stock was not...

i emailed them but all i got back was this weeks newsletter of new releases graemlins/conf44.gif

but hey, i apreciate them, dt and all the other underground shops for selling the music i like...

[Kenrick _]

on the sound sample tip. i have heard dt sample records which turned out not to be the actual record when it arrived.

but i most say that damien(sp) is always forthcomming in correcting any issues i have had.

that is important too...

[saadir7]

Originally posted by Tony Cano:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
how do you deal with import copies that come without the shrink rap. if 20 people went through one copy, doesn't it technically become a used copy? i have a real problem with paying full price for a brand new record with 25 different sets of fingerprints. i bought a new copy of an osunlade record that looked like it had been through 40 gigs & the dude still wanted to charge me full price. Greetings Cosmic_Twin:

Hope your day is everything you wish it to be.

Imagine a record store being a food store. And your food had fingerprints all over it. Lot of these stores (not all) have no respect for the customer nor for music. Their behavaior is disgraceful. We should stand up for our rights and "peacefully" shout back whenever it is called for.

d

If music be the food of love, play on.

-Shakespeare </font>[/QUOTE]agreed. i hate when djs stuff their records in milk crates. they don't even fit. the jackets extend outside the milk crate and get bent and torn.

i dont see this as much as i did when i was younger. </font>[/QUOTE]yo kid i'm rockin milk crates and mail crates
and proud of it.

[E-Phi]

Originally posted by Kenrick _:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by E-Phi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
Satellite used to be the BOMB...especially when they had they old store.......they had stuff you couldn't find anywhere else..........they fell off bad....the website is wack now too.... PROCESSING............... </font>[/QUOTE]hahahahahahah, i know right.

something is terribly wrong over there. i am now waiting a week and almost a half for my purchase and i only live in JERSEY!!! (i normally get delivery 2 business days, three tops)

some of what the site said to be in stock was not...

i emailed them but all i got back was this weeks newsletter of new releases graemlins/conf44.gif

but hey, i apreciate them, dt and all the other underground shops for selling the music i like... </font>[/QUOTE]Satellite doesn't process their orders on a daily basis like DT. It takes 2-4 days to process the order and 3 days min to ship UPS ground (or USPS priority).

[kev]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by larry rauson:
Mr. Mancuso, the pleasure is mine, and in response to your previous reply to this thread, my response would be a good number of dj's are illiterate, and, or blind. There is in fact a sign at DT's stating handle the vinyl with care.

Larry Greetings larry:

When I worked at Dub Spot (I sure miss that place)
I would cringe and become literally nauseous if someone started to handle the vinyl poorly. I would try to find gentle ways to get them to be more careful. I was shocked by some ...whom I never thought would do such a thing.

Thank you larry for your response smile.gif

d </font>[/QUOTE]You could put a neon sign that's 10 feet by 10 feet right in front of the listening stations, and people are still gonna manhandle the damn things.