Question to the dj's:Have you been accused of being too deep?

[Jamie 3:26]

I am asking this question because I didn't know whether to be offended or just take it with a grain of salt.Here's the scenerio:I gave a cd to my girl who works at the MAC counter at Marshall Fields.Her girl says that my music is too deep.Her friend brings in a cd of a guy named DJ Mark,not the FullaFlava guy,I like him,the cd is chop full of the same 30 songs.I heard the mix and I could guess the next song.No blends,if he did blend,he used the effects to play it off.

My cd I gave her was for her personal use and did not know she was doing shows with them.The cd's had a nice selcetion of modern tunes.I even pt a few r+B remixes on there,cause that's what I use to reel folks in who are not hip.

It just really pissed me off to have someone say my shit is too deep,when I know I get critized at times for not going deep enough...that's a whole different story,but anyways,it really frustrtaed me to see another example of folks not really understanding music and being one-dimensional.

I just wanted to know was I really over-reacting??

Honest opinions and serious dialog please...

[djdub63]

I've been over the years been told I was either too loungey, too hard, and or too deep. Keep doin what ya doin and don't worry bout them folks!

['Magic' Juan]

People who are in the know about current House music selections may the be ones who demand "deeper" sounds. Those who are still stuck in the past cannot move beyond the bygone era, and want to hear the same 30 songs because it puts them in a comfort zone. Obviously, this individual fits into the latter category. Nothing you should fret about, just let it go and keep trying to expand peoples minds. Those who want to hear the new sounds will seek it out. Those who do not will continue to repeat history forever. Just my 2 bits.

magic_juan

[Bill Blake]

Your over-reacting

Like the girl that made the comment even knows what the **** ‘too deep’ means anyways.

Another soon to be over-reaction will be the competition tomorrow after I smoke their ass.

Havent ginen much of any though to what Ill play but I guess I need to give a little tonight since the sets are only 25-30 minutes but sh---------

Im too deep, I cant lose.

[Mocambo]

Take it with a grain of salt Jamie. You had progressed on with the music. Alot of people have not. I gave a sister a CD here where I work. She was expecting 'Dr. Love', 'Time to Jack', etc. I gave her Glenn Underground, Phil Asher and Nathan Haines. Her response was 'Too Deep'. She admitted of not moving past the late 80s. So, I did not trip. It was a free CD. When she asked for a second CD, I made her pay for all the songs she wanted. Hell, this is a hobby for me. Not a labor of love.

Take it in stride.

[Jamie 3:26]

Like I said ya'll,it ain't got me down.It's actually making me go further away from classics..period.

[Koffy Brown]

Maybe your pissed because she actually had the ardacity to criticize your mix...it just wasn't her speed, you can't be mad about that...I'm sure there are people out there who don't like my mixes, but hey graemlins/rofl.gif ..


anyways..I have been trying to get a gig at the MAC counter do your girl have any connects...

[e2e4]

Once after a gig, a few people came to and ask: 'Why don't you play some tunes with vocals'. The next time(after playing a mixture between tracky and vocal) they ask: 'Why do you play vocal tunes at all'

So what, if the party is good, I don't care about such comments anymore, and if it's not I don't care either because sometimes I like it deep, sometimes a bit harder, etc..

If you honestly think and know that you've made enough compromises for the folks, then it must be ok, otherwise you will suffer, and this is not good, imho

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by Ashaki:
Maybe your pissed because she actually had the ardacity to criticize your mix...it just wasn't her speed, you can't be mad about that...I'm sure there are people out there who don't like my mixes, but hey graemlins/rofl.gif ..


anyways..I have been trying to get a gig at the MAC counter do your girl have any connects... I do not really know.Lemme see.

[RaHaAn81]

Well Jamie that's chicago. They only dance to songs they know or on the radio and being that the radio dj's just play those same songs all f_cking time and most of the club dj's play the same two hundred records for the past twenty years and now they say if you play song that came out maybe six months ago your late and you need to get updated with your muzik. That's BS if it's hot it's hot. I just think people in the states are LATE. Everybody is programmed, The slave mind,like the matrix and thats with everything.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by RaHaAn81:
Well Jamie that's chicago. They only dance to songs they know or on the radio and being that the radio dj's just play those same songs all f_cking time and most of the club dj's play the same two hundred records for the past twenty years and now they say if you play song that came out maybe six months ago your late and you need to get updated with your muzik. That's BS if it's hot it's hot. I just think people in the states are LATE. Everybody is programmed, The slave mind,like the matrix and thats with everything. RA,your mind was opened to a whole different world brother.I know where you are getting at.It's a shame.Like you said,folks have these crazy ass rules here when it comes to music.

I am just tired of sheeple here in Chicago.I also hate the fact that folks are just plain late and country as hell.It's an embarassment.It's not doing anything but making me stronger and knowing that I can no longer have home in my scope.

[richierich]

Jaimie I don't claim to be an expert on this stuff but I say play what is in you heart and not necessarily what you think a persom might like. Some will like it and some will not. That way you develope your own following. There are enough people playing classics to last a lifetime. Then sometimes you might want to play classics because that's what you are feeling. You never know she might give that CD to someone else and they might think that it's the bomb. What's good for some might not be good for others, but at least when you play from the heart they know where you are with your music and you might not have even played the same type of sound as opposaed to trying to get with the people let the people get with you, that way you will have people liking what Jaimie plays. People are just too fickle and if she didn't like it OH WELL. Play from the heart and feel good about your shit anyways.
Peace
Richie Rich
Soul in the Hole

[RaHaAn81]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Like I said ya'll,it ain't got me down.It's actually making me go further away from classics..period. It dose not make a diffrents if it's old or new. Just don't play sh_tout on what ever you play.new or old. Don't be a slave. Don't go with flow thats when you stand out.

[ March 12, 2003, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: RaHaAn81 ]

[darrow]

The answer to the question/topic title is...yes.

"too deep"
"too underground"
"too too"
"too straight" - Yeah, I got that one from a promoter at a gay club that wanted someone to spin House

The comments usually irritates me for a couple of reasons...

1) that sort of feedback is typically vague and does nothing to help identify what the person felt was wrong with the mix or what they really wanted out of the mix. I am frustrated by people that do not communicate well.

2) I'm a fan of the music I play and can react automatically and negatively when I hear comments that sometimes indicate the commentors ignorance of the music. The reaction isn't a logical one, but I have to admit that it is a real one for me.

3) I can be one touchy brother when it comes to criticizing my mixes. smile.gif

[djdub63]

Originally posted by darrow:

"too straight" - Yeah, I got that one from a promoter at a gay club that wanted someone to spin House

Thanks Darrow, forgot that one!

[Jamie 3:26]

Rich,I feel ya.Believe me one person is not going to set me off.It's just frustrating to me to say the least.I have over 15 folks who want cd's..of what they heard on the cd.

I will continue to do my thang and give my musical expressions they way I think it should be presented,whether they like it or not.

It's just a shame folks are missing out on so much good music...house,soul,hip-hop,jazz and so on,just for being closed minded.

George Clinton said it best.."Free your mind...and your ass will follow"

[JMJ]

I say PHUCK'EM!!! There are a lot of clueless PHUCKS out there that pass judgement and make assumptions based on things they know nothing about. My friend said this, my girl said that....COME OUT FROM UNDER THE COVERS, open your ears, shut the phuck up, and learn something!!!!! Hell, ya might even like it!!! They're all phucking sheep. Good music is what it is. Go get some! OK, I'm done ranting now......JMJ graemlins/cussing.gif

[The Real Dragonfly Jones]

I was told I was playing too deep @ some parties. But too deep just means too much stuff they never heard before!!!

I wouldn't sweat it. Especially if it's just a CD.

[Jamie 3:26]

Tell me if this is too deep...I had a blend riding African Jive's beats over the whole song of When I think of you-Janet Jackson.It's just amazing.I guess folks would have to be here in Chicago to truly understand this.It's not the fact that one person did not like my shit,it's the fact that what I was playing was not even treading the waters of deepness.

It's so frustrating being a jock in Chicago at times.

[Koffy Brown]

I say just send me the cd's you were giving her...

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by RaHaAn81:
Well Jamie that's chicago. They only dance to songs they know or on the radio and being that the radio dj's just play those same songs all f_cking time and most of the club dj's play the same two hundred records for the past twenty years and now they say if you play song that came out maybe six months ago your late and you need to get updated with your muzik. That's BS if it's hot it's hot. I just think people in the states are LATE. Everybody is programmed, The slave mind,like the matrix and thats with everything. RA,your mind was opened to a whole different world brother.I know where you are getting at.It's a shame.Like you said,folks have these crazy ass rules here when it comes to music.

I am just tired of sheeple here in Chicago.I also hate the fact that folks are just plain late and country as hell.It's an embarassment.It's not doing anything but making me stronger and knowing that I can no longer have home in my scope. </font>[/QUOTE]you haven't seen country as hell until you've visited Cincinnati

[Jamie 3:26]

Ashaki,I have heard about Cincinatti.My guy goes out there every other weekend to be with his daughter.

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Ashaki,I have heard about Cincinatti.My guy goes out there every other weekend to be with his daughter. What have you heard? graemlins/rofl.gif

[RaHaAn81]

Originally posted by JMJ:
I say PHUCK'EM!!! There are a lot of clueless PHUCKS out there that pass judgement and make assumptions based on things they know nothing about. My friend said this, my girl said that....COME OUT FROM UNDER THE COVERS, open your ears, shut the phuck up, and learn something!!!!! Hell, ya might even like it!!! They're all phucking sheep. Good music is what it is. Go get some! OK, I'm done ranting now......JMJ graemlins/cussing.gif It needs to be said
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[Oak Pk, IL's Best Bedroom DJ, serge]

I've been accused of being many things: "enemy of the state", "Perry Mason", "god", "jesus", "ay papi, right there" (these latter three on a nightly basis ;) )....

But one thing that irks me, but which I have learned to let go, is when I'm accused of being "too deep."

I just turn this view on it head, and back onto the accuser by saying, "No, you're too shallow!"

Que pasa, que pasa?!?!? graemlins/acclaim.gif

[MC]

I feel the same way. Sometimes when I have friends over that don't really listen to the deep disco or WBMX mixes I play what I am feeling and they usually give me this weird like what is that? I kinda hate it because they don't even give it a chance. I try to play at least soulful to get them into it, but still nothing.

[ March 12, 2003, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: Michael J. Carmona ]

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by Michael J. Carmona:
I feel the same way. Sometimes when I have friends over that don't really listen to the deep disco or WBMX mixes I play what I am feeling and they usually give me this weird like what is that? I kinda hate it because they don't even give it a chance. I try to play at least soulful to get them into it, but still nothing. when we're at my crib...we listen to what I want to hear...unless you bought a lot of smoke and a good bottle of wine or vodka with you...otherwise my friends like my taste in music...they are very open minded

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Ashaki,I have heard about Cincinatti.My guy goes out there every other weekend to be with his daughter. What have you heard? graemlins/rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]there are some freaky women..

[richierich]

Let me ask you this J. Would you take a gig playing stuff that you didn't particularly like just for the sake of getting a gig or would you turn it down. Now you know when I first got started and couldn't even blend two Traxx records you were there. I probably don't have any more records than the next guy (maybe less) but let me tell you I have gotten a lot of gigs for me to be a newbie. Gigs that people that have been playing way longer, have way more records and have way better skills than me should be getting. I have never asked to spin anywhere but it surprises and amazes me when people compliment me on what and how I played. And I'm like Damn I'm really only playing stuff that I like not what I think They will like. Therefore when I get gigs they already like what I play. EEEEEAAAASSSSYYYYYY NO WORRIES.
If you want to just get gigs to say you get gigs that's you but you might not always get them when you play from the heart because it might not be the typical stuff. You are too good of jock to be pussy footing around with mediocre shit. Chicago has enough mediocre DJs and it does us a disservice for people with your talent to be playing stuck music to stuck people. The rest of the world has left us behind because Some of the jocks wil not play from the heart and are scared that people will not dance to the stuff that they are playing. Well if you bought it you must like it so put it out there and let the chips fall where they may. Help pull Chicago out of this stuck assed rut. This aint about new music vs old music just good music period. I know what you can do so just Do it. One example you remember the party you Greg and Boo did for Cheeze at Hi - Ricky's? Well Greg was the first person that I heard play "Star Suite" I snapped something fierce on that shit and Noone else danced at all everyone was just standing around looking at me jack by myself. The thing is he had the balls to let that piece play damn near all the way thru because it needed to be played. NOW how many people have danced to that record. It Cleared the floor here then when he played it. That's Chicago for ya. If you try to please Chicago you'll be playing sing a longs forever. Play from the heart and be with the rest of the House world.
Peace

[ March 12, 2003, 03:42 PM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[JMJ]

I've been accused of going too deep, but that has nothing to do with music........JMJ biggrinangel.gif

[Oak Pk, IL's Best Bedroom DJ, serge]

Hey. What do we expect in a country where a badly produced song called "Wankster" hits the top of the charts, and a movie about a rapping kangaroo who steals a bag of cash becomes a box office smash?!?

Cultural expression and appreciation is dead in America.

"He stole the money. And he ain't giving it back!"

Shiiiit..

Serge left to Mexico. And he ain't coming back! mad1.gif

[ March 12, 2003, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: serge ]

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Ashaki,I have heard about Cincinatti.My guy goes out there every other weekend to be with his daughter. What have you heard? graemlins/rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]there are some freaky women.. </font>[/QUOTE]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/jawdrop.gif

[JL]

deep is relative and has so many meanings now - don't sweat it.

[MC]

Originally posted by Ashaki:
when we're at my crib...we listen to what I want to hear...unless you bought a lot of smoke and a good bottle of wine or vodka with you...otherwise my friends like my taste in music...they are very open mindedAshaki,

You are lucky, I have a few friends that really digg the real stuff, but majority of them don't. Like for example of my buddies likes the same ole songs, he doesn't think it's a good tape if it doesn't have "Jack your Body" on it, Now that is sad. I mean I try to school him with Donna McGhee, Gene Chandler, Kikrokos, Liaison Dangereuses, etc. All they say is "Oh I remember that", but they show no emotion finally I gave up on them! But Like I said you are lucky to have friends that really like the SOULFUL songs. mad1.gif

[ March 12, 2003, 04:06 PM: Message edited by: Michael J. Carmona ]

[Jamie 3:26]

Rich,true that.You have come a long way baby....lol.It's all good bruh.I remember those Gemini tables..lol.

Honestly,I will play whatever I have to at times to get a gig.I have made more money doing gigs playing tunes I don't like,than for playing the shit I really love.

The kicker is I do not get any satisfaction out of it.It's like having sex with a person you can't stand.Money is not everything to me.I did the club thing and honestly playing the same crate of cuts everynite got on my nerves after a while.

I have played steeper's tunes,Hip-Hop,Booty House and a whole lot of other things,I just do not get any satisfaction out of it anymore.It does not mean I will do an mediorce job,but I just don't feel it like the shit that gets me going.

Trust me,I am doing my part,along with a lot of other jocks out here,SITH included to open folks minds.It just gets frustrating at times that's all.

Like I said before,something must be right,because 15 folks want a copy of that cd. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Hey man,check your pm's too.We need to plug.I was your way last nite and could have stopped by.

[KragShot]

It's as I've always said it ever since I've come to this page.

Being a DJ is no longer about just playing records. Today's DJ is a performance artist and as such, should be respected for their creativity in a mix.

It's a damn shame that Chicago in particular and the USA in general doesn't appreciate that.

Me, I do my own thing...classics, new stuff (when I can afford to get them) and the esoteric jams that I find. Folks don't like my stuff, I just give 'em a FYM. I have enough people who do.

Jamie, just follow your own old tag line;

Just beat that shit.

And give those lame folks a hearty FYM (see "Fear of a Black Hat" to learn what that means).

KragShot

BTW, seeing as you are in the habit of giving away CDs, why don't you see your way about kicking me out one of those gems?

[ March 12, 2003, 04:24 PM: Message edited by: KragShot ]

[richierich]

Yo jaimie I didn't see anything hit me on one of the numbers that you have for me.

[ March 12, 2003, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[floorgasm]

do you think you'd get anything other than a dirty look if you went up to her and told her that her lipstick is too red?

she may know mac but she doesn't know jack ;)

[Cordell]

About 3-4 years ago, I was looking for a residency or a guest spot at several places which they all said I was too soulful or too deep. Even now, I've heard some of the big name cats come in and play the same type of set and get mad love while getting booked over and over again. mad1.gif
And i see in some of the cheesy joints that the residents for these places are adding some soulful house to their set. Gee, i wonder why?

[gabriel]

[ March 12, 2003, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: gabrielloveshouse ]

[Pete Nice]

screw what people think... do your thing and sleep better at night. if you like it, then someone else will to. then stalk them and make them listen to every damn record you got unitl their sick of you. graemlins/cussing.gif here is something to remember: "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink." graemlins/soapbox.gif

[ March 12, 2003, 07:02 PM: Message edited by: square root ]

[djmarbll]

If you have to dj to eat, then eventually you will have to play some music you might not like to get a check. Most of the dj's I know on this page have other jobs which affords them the chance to play what they really like when they spin out somewhere. Right now I play drums and make beats to eat. There are many songs I hate to play, but the crowds loves them so I play them. There are many tracks I've made that I can't stand to listen now, but rappers bought them. Sometimes that sacrifice has to be made, but when people say you're too deep Jamie, I say f*ck 'em. They're mind is just too conformed to what is acceptable. I've been accused of not being deep enough and being too deep, but the people who accused me of either aren't paying my bills. I would be different if it was a party and no one was dancing, but this just a cd. That lady has her nerve. Ignorance use to be considered a sin, when did it become bliss?

[SEAN SOUNDS]

Hey Jamie. I feel you should play what you like. That's what I do. Like Marbll said, some of us have jobs and don't have to play for a check. Whenever I'm asked to do a gig I always tell them one of two things....1) Listen to one of my CDs or 2) Go to my site and listen to one of my mixes, then call me if you still want to book me. Mixing is something I enjoy and I view it as a hobby. If it makes me money great, if not...great. The day you stop playing what you like is the day when your hobby turns into a "job". graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

Don't stop having fun.... graemlins/nono.gif

[Jamie 3:26]

Sean,it ain't getting me down or making me want to quit.Hell,it's making me want to do this thing even more.

Like I said earlier,it's a shame that folks are ignoring so much quality music out here.I am cool with it.I also have noticed that folks will snap to songs a big name jock will rock,yet a local cat could be playing the same thing and get ignored.That's a problem to me.

I am not dissing big name jocks who come thru town,hell that helps out also,but there's a ton of untapped talent here.Frankie had to leave and come back to get the real props.

I know that there are lazy dj's who continue to dig us into a deeper hole,by playing the same ol same ol.They along with lazy radio jocks are to blame.

I am not saying spend 200 bucks a week at G'phone and Hot jams,I am saying that in order to turn this place around more jocks should be able to at least drop a few modern tunes in their sets.I ain't talking about playing Flowers or Change for me either.

There's a ton of untouched gems that are being slept on.I am not even dissing disco.I know there is a ton of disco cuts that only a certain ratio of Chicago jocks are playing.

I just do not know where or when it will end.I am happy playing what I play.One person will not shut me down or up for that matter.I guess it's just a frustrating situation to be a dj in Chicago at times.For this to be the city where House Music originated,folks are really behind in the times.It's just sad to me. mad1.gif

[jsd540]

This is an age old problem brrro. People are sheep wherever you go. I have people come to my house and ask me to play the same 30 records. I have a fairly large collection, yet people never ask me to play something they have'nt heard a million times.

Worse yet music is different than it was 20 years ago but people want to waste time reliving the clubs of bygone days. I won't do it, I have changed my hair, clothes, and road in life. My soundtrack must also evolve.

But I digress. Up hers... she don't know deep. Give her 4 more discs baby and show her what deep really is... graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[AK]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Like I said ya'll,it ain't got me down.It's actually making me go further away from classics..period. I feel you on this, J. When people turn a "blind ear" to good new music because they "know what's house," it really does drive me away from the classics. And that's a shame because it's what I grew up on as a DJ and what I still do love, on a certain level. I still like to listen to classics, mostly at home for my own personal enjoyment, but I am generally not feeling the vibe that needs to hear that stuff out to have a good "house party." I do understand that classic and retro parties have their place, but the mentality that limits house to that genre, in my opinion, trivializes our music and threatens to be the death of it. Using music--any music--to resurrect old feelings and good times is all well and good, but I resist anything or anyone who, deliberately or not, treats our music like "Motown" or golden oldies. In the final analysis, it warms my heart to see anyone diggin' house of any kind rather than the absolute crap we hear on the radio. However, there's a certain "house classics" mentality, in Chicago in particular, that I just don't want to be associated with or feed into.

[AD]

Yes I've been accused of it plenty of times, but when Mr. Big Time Super Star DJ does it, then it's all of a sudden ok. F that! smokin.gif

[sammyrock]

Dont sweat it Jamie.Your selections are excellent!Ive been accused as well for this.I say mabe Im more laid back then playing 140bpms,but when I play live,peeps is like man,it was deep but you made me sweat!,so Im kinda confused my damm self.Like I posted before.."Larry Heard"(Deep) or Frankie Knuckles "Peak-Hour"???soooooooooo I said to myself let me try BOTH.Start out deep and work my way to 128bpms,that is it.Although I did go to 137 bpms..lol but the crowd was drunk and people were yelling..I mean its all in the Soul!and you Jamie 3:26 are A GREAT PERSON AND DJ!!!,One last thing.Last time I played at the radio station here in Tampax,Florida,the mofo of the radio show asked me.."Sam,your not going too deep are you"??I was like what?He replied you need to play something "pumpier",what the **** is pumpier???Im not ****ing a female or dog...lol so I played what I wanted too,a little faster then usual but still effective.Peace be unto to ALL my brothers and sisters in the struggle!. :rolleyes: smile.gif

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:


Like I said before,something must be right,because 15 folks want a copy of that cd. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Hey man,check your pm's too.We need to plug.I was your way last nite and could have stopped by. 16 people biggrinangel.gif

[steffenb]

i get about 3-4 private partys fall asleep
completely ... am i too deep ? :D

[Martin Red]

Jamie,

It's a shame that the music is that far travelled now every cunt thinks they have some usefull comment from their vast experince, I wouldn't worry.

People are quick to comment, I hate to be introduced to non musiocal people as a dj, actually I hate being introduced as a DJ to anyone.

You put music out on CD , no charge , and the C*** starts acting like a music critic, f*ck em', ask for the CD back and give it to someone else.

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by Martin Red:
Jamie,

It's a shame that the music is that far travelled now every cunt thinks they have some usefull comment from their vast experince, I wouldn't worry.

People are quick to comment, I hate to be introduced to non musiocal people as a dj, actually I hate being introduced as a DJ to anyone.

You put music out on CD , no charge , and the C*** starts acting like a music critic, f*ck em', ask for the CD back and give it to someone else. cunt I haven't heard that in while graemlins/rofl.gif

[Ken1015]

Jamie, always consider the source. As we have already discussed, this is Chicago and the general population here is late. The same person that told you that your music was too deep had her musical foundation built by what she listens to on WGCI and WVAZ. The mixes I hear on these stations today sound exactly like the ones I heard 20 years ago. Her and her ilk labelling you as "too deep" is indeed a badge of honor.

[Doug]

Jamie,

Listen to the criticism thoughtfully and carefully. Then politely tell your friend's friend to eat shit and die.

Peace,

Doug

[JMJ]

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
Jamie, always consider the source. As we have already discussed, this is Chicago and the general population here is late. The same person that told you that your music was too deep had her musical foundation built by what she listens to on WGCI and WVAZ. The mixes I hear on these stations today sound exactly like the ones I heard 20 years ago. Her and her ilk labelling you as "too deep" is indeed a badge of honor. The mixes on the radio now aren't even close in quality and programming to what they were 20 years ago. Just my opinion.....JMJ

[Ken1015]

Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Soulful1015:
Jamie, always consider the source. As we have already discussed, this is Chicago and the general population here is late. The same person that told you that your music was too deep had her musical foundation built by what she listens to on WGCI and WVAZ. The mixes I hear on these stations today sound exactly like the ones I heard 20 years ago. Her and her ilk labelling you as "too deep" is indeed a badge of honor. The mixes on the radio now aren't even close in quality and programming to what they were 20 years ago. Just my opinion.....JMJ </font>[/QUOTE]I believe that the style of mixing is somewhat different but the music selection is exactly the same. One of 'em even brought back Kenny "Jammin" Jason and he's playing the same damn music now as he did then. No dis to him since I'm sure that's what they hired him for but it illustrates the mentality we're dealing with.

[Guillaume]

Like I said earlier,it's a shame that folks are ignoring so much quality music out here.I am cool with it.I also have noticed that folks will snap to songs a big name jock will rock,yet a local cat could be playing the same thing and get ignored.That's a problem to me.
That is SooOOooo true... Somehow I think that a lot of people are just a little bit too Star struck graemlins/1luvu.gif and it is indeed very frustrating to see people going mad to something that was played to them before [it gets even more frustrating when you happen to be the one who played it!!!] and created absolutely no response at all!!! So how does that work then???? graemlins/stupid.gif

Anyway, if you are accused of being "Too deep", surely it can't be bad at all and you are certainly doing something right!

G.

[ March 13, 2003, 08:45 AM: Message edited by: Guillaume ]

[däp]

when someone complains about what's being played by stating it's too deep, i ignore them. The CD wasn't for her in the first place, it was for your girl. did your friend defend you when the other girl made that comment?

when someone feels that you're too deep, it usually means they unfamiliar with the tunes.

i like to have my "mind blown" when i go out to hear music (house). that means hearing some great new stuff or songs that i've heard on a big system. the majority of people aren't like that. chicago's major party scene is social not musical.

invite her to your next gig w/complimentary admission and see if she has the same attitude! :eek:

[lola desire]

jamie,

it's funny how we tend to ignore/downplay the positive feedback and embrace the negative feedback in our lives. there are people who love the way you spin. there will always be someone who will criticize.

as a friend once mentioned, at the end of the day, when all is said and done... you've got to follow your bliss.

take it with a grain of salt and keep keepin' on. smile.gif

[Bernie]

Originally posted by Doug:
Jamie,

Listen to the criticism thoughtfully and carefully. Then politely tell your friend's friend to eat shit and die.

Peace,

Doug graemlins/rofl.gif

Jaime,

I know you won't let her comment get you down. Just continue to play from the heart. It will take some time to "raise the remnant", but there are those here in Chicago besides DJ's who want to hear what's new along with older tunes (are classics songs that are six months old, one year old, five years old, twenty years old? Hmmmmmm :rolleyes: )

[djmarbll]

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
Jamie, always consider the source. As we have already discussed, this is Chicago and the general population here is late. The same person that told you that your music was too deep had her musical foundation built by what she listens to on WGCI and WVAZ. The mixes I hear on these stations today sound exactly like the ones I heard 20 years ago. Her and her ilk labelling you as "too deep" is indeed a badge of honor. It's funny you mentioned WVAZ. Herb Kent "The Kool Gent" and "Mayor of Bronzeville" plays some of the deepest soul I've ever heard on Sundays. He was accused of being too deep too. Now he's a living legend. There's a vast library of new and older stuff that would awaken the programmed ears of the general poulace.

[djmarbll]

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
Jamie, always consider the source. As we have already discussed, this is Chicago and the general population here is late. The same person that told you that your music was too deep had her musical foundation built by what she listens to on WGCI and WVAZ. The mixes I hear on these stations today sound exactly like the ones I heard 20 years ago. Her and her ilk labelling you as "too deep" is indeed a badge of honor. It's funny you mentioned WVAZ. Herb Kent "The Kool Gent" and "Mayor of Bronzeville" plays some of the deepest soul I've ever heard on Sundays. He was accused of being too deep too. Now he's a living legend. There's a vast library of new and older stuff that would awaken the programmed ears of the general populace.

[Djay Raare]

Too Deep mmmm, I remember one time the first time I played at this lil underground party 5/94, Yeah I was gettin into my set & then I started gettin deep into it wit the Whitle Song yall know the jam (( Frankie knuckles ))& the guy throwing the party tells me to play something else like a mmm "" Pump up the jam "" or something like that I was F!%K that!!! I told his ass this is who i am & who I be (( a true deep house Deejay )) so I guess what im trying to say is keep it real, keep it underground dont worry about them other heads they just dont understand word.......Peace