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Jamie 3:26
10-08-2003, 10:19 AM
I am considering doing this.Just wondering what are the pro's and cons of this.

Bold Soul
10-08-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
I am considering doing this.Just wondering what are the pro's and cons of this. Check your PMs. :D

Specter
10-08-2003, 10:40 AM
it seems like that is the way to go now. With so many dj's out there something needs to distinguish you from the rest and that is a sad fact. You could have the best skills in the world but if you dont have tracks out ,no one will even look at you. This is just from what i encountered while putting out tracks. Honestly there is no real money from putting tracks out unless your gonna be selling thousands and thousands of units.But shopping tracks to a label is another thing, some labels can give you a good penny for a couple tracks, but thats probably all youll see to.
So you have to have a level head when deciding to do this and keep things in perspective. Jmo. peace

SMOOTH87
10-08-2003, 11:10 AM
1. Other label besides your own they will always come out on top point blank.

2. With your own label you can keep your name out there.

3. If you have a hit your label will make all the profits.

With a label there is a lot of work but if you are in it to win it you will come out on top. I do suggest before you start your own label to put out music on other label first to get your self some exposure. Having records outs help you with contacts with stores and distributors. Think about it, would you listen to an unknown first or a new MAW or Kerri Chandler in a record store. The more relases you have the more better you look to a distributor that will pick up your label. How well you deal with them, the quality of your work and how you deal with the public will determine how long your label will survive....

AgentDoubleA
10-08-2003, 11:14 AM
What they said + what I pm'ed you.

Bill Blake
10-08-2003, 11:24 AM
Just dont forget to send me promos

SMOOTH87
10-08-2003, 11:52 AM
Also take note of the Osulande interview. He gives lot of insights of the ups and downs of a label..

Nege
10-08-2003, 12:57 PM
I can be worth it,
just keep track of the amount of money you spend doing it and you will be fine.( found that out the hard way)
all you need is one big release to make things easier for you.

djfunq
10-08-2003, 01:36 PM
I'm also planning to bring something out in the future. For now I got my 4 track recorder and stuff, but in the beginning of next year I'm going to study lessons (after work) of audio, film ,... just the basics(12 months, 1000euro), and after that i'll probably take the studio engineering (18 months, +-7500 euro) in this time I can use a pro.studio as much as I like!!! biggrinangel.gif
Note: for those who are interested, musicschool is in Rotterdam, and if you pass the "studio engineering" test, your degree will be equally based as one of a doctor! And that can count!

ruse
10-08-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by djfunq:
I'm also planning to bring something out in the future. For now I got my 4 track recorder and stuff, but in the beginning of next year I'm going to study lessons (after work) of audio, film ,... just the basics(12 months, 1000euro), and after that i'll probably take the studio engineering (18 months, +-7500 euro) in this time I can use a pro.studio as much as I like!!! biggrinangel.gif
Note: for those who are interested, musicschool is in Rotterdam, and if you pass the "studio engineering" test, your degree will be equally based as one of a doctor! And that can count! what is the name of the school? sounds interesting. thanks
Ruse

BigPoppa
10-08-2003, 04:35 PM
Don't forget the business side! You have to move 3000 units to basically break even on a project.

Brian
10-08-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by SMOOTH87:
Also take note of the Osulande interview. He gives lot of insights of the ups and downs of a label.. Where is this interview?

jpsf
10-08-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by BigPoppa:
Don't forget the business side! You have to move 3000 units to basically break even on a project. nah, 1000 - 1500 is more like it. but it depends on what you spend money on.

and of course, there is the difference between records sold and money collected. that is to say there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between the two :(

SMOOTH87
10-08-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Brian:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SMOOTH87:
Also take note of the Osulande interview. He gives lot of insights of the ups and downs of a label.. Where is this interview? </font>[/QUOTE]This is one the interviews posted by Raven Fox..

eileen
10-08-2003, 05:41 PM
i think a lot depends on why you want to get into it and what you mean by "worth".

if you are into it for the love of spreading the music you are feeling then it makes a lot of sense and it's totally worth it.

if you are into it for pure monetary gain, then i think there are easier ways to make a living! smile.gif

my experience is that the more monetary gain oriented you are, the more sacrifices you have to make in terms of your artistic vision and integrity, such as paying ridiculous sums of money for remixes, tailoring your product to make it more "sellable", watching $$ get exchanged in order to get good press, etc., etc. it can be really discouraging for your artistic process.

so i guess the monetary/business side of it is fine if that's up front and you realize it going in, because that's how it is with most businesses. you just have to apply the formulas that work and you can make a small profit.

but it can be hard if you are kind of against those rules - where you try to do whatever you feel like artisically and still stay in the black.

that's my experience, anyway.

beaniboy67
10-08-2003, 06:08 PM
I think in the house industry it is far easier to produce and release a record than it is in the Alternative music industry.I played in an independent phycadelic type rock band for around 4 years and the shiet you have to go through is terrible.Playing up and down the country for pittence trying to get a break in an industry that cares only about sales and image sucks.i was doing a 5 year Honours degree at the time in Audio technology and media and it was hard work.Since i finished University i have left my band and im going to start concentrating more on producing house music.Although i have had experience of this kinda production before i have never had enough free time to do what i wanted but the time is now here.


If i was you Jamie i would make the music you wanna make and find the sound you are looking for!

In the circle you are in and with the people you know, will probably benefit you. Youre in the game anyways so promoting youreself is probably gonna be easier.Also, releasing a house record doesnt rely a lot on image,band name,track name,artwork and most of all playing youre music live.This is a blessing as 99% of the major music industry is intrested in these factors.

If you do a track and its good id guess word will get around quick enough that you are rolling.Me and a friend have started producing house stuff aswell and once i get to grips with all the equipment inside and out then with both our musical backgrounds taken into consideration i guess we can do something worthwhile.

You can be 50 years old and producing house music in youre spare bedroom and no one cares who you are or what age you are.Thats the great thing about house.In the mainstream u have to have the haircut the clothes and the energy to gig 200 times a year.

i say bring it on.i say you do the same dude!! smile.gif

suenomartino
10-08-2003, 07:06 PM
Just to balance it out, the independant record industry is really suffering at the moment and quite honestly I think it's probably a bad time to consider starting a label.. Your sound would have to be pretty fkn hot for most distributors to even consider taking 500 copies of your record.

Having said that, if you don't mind risking the ~$3000 it'll take to get something out there, then do it! Ideally you would want to shop your record around and try and find a distribtor who'll be willing to do a P&D (pressing and dist) deal with you..

djfunq
10-09-2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by ruse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by djfunq:
I'm also planning to bring something out in the future. For now I got my 4 track recorder and stuff, but in the beginning of next year I'm going to study lessons (after work) of audio, film ,... just the basics(12 months, 1000euro), and after that i'll probably take the studio engineering (18 months, +-7500 euro) in this time I can use a pro.studio as much as I like!!! biggrinangel.gif
Note: for those who are interested, musicschool is in Rotterdam, and if you pass the "studio engineering" test, your degree will be equally based as one of a doctor! And that can count! what is the name of the school? sounds interesting. thanks
Ruse </font>[/QUOTE]Schools name: S.A.E
A friend of mine is doing those lessons and he will bring some info next week. I'll PM you with the info! Peace,

djfunq
10-09-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by djfunq:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ruse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by djfunq:
I'm also planning to bring something out in the future. For now I got my 4 track recorder and stuff, but in the beginning of next year I'm going to study lessons (after work) of audio, film ,... just the basics(12 months, 1000euro), and after that i'll probably take the studio engineering (18 months, +-7500 euro) in this time I can use a pro.studio as much as I like!!! biggrinangel.gif
Note: for those who are interested, musicschool is in Rotterdam, and if you pass the "studio engineering" test, your degree will be equally based as one of a doctor! And that can count! what is the name of the school? sounds interesting. thanks
Ruse </font>[/QUOTE]Schools name: S.A.E
A friend of mine is doing those lessons and he will bring some info next week. I'll PM you with the info! Peace, </font>[/QUOTE]Note: There are many schools of this(International), I also know there is a same one in London, and if you go there you will probably have lessons from Darren Emmerson(Producer and former Underworld member).