So...Househeads don't drink and support the bar...WHY exactly?

[D J 1 3 8]

I've seen this mentioned many times on DHP, and there is some truth to it. My question is: WHY?

Is it because:

A) househeads are all recovering alcoholics

B) househeads are just cheap

C) househeads are just plain broke

D) househeads are just too old to drink and still go to work the next day

E) househeads don't want alcohol to interfere with their dancing

F) househeads are on drugs already (like weed, coke, whatever) therefore they require no alcohol consumption.

G) househeads partied SO hard in the 80s & 90s that one more drink might kill them

H) all of the above

[bitonti]

its the value system - when one drink is the same price as one domestic 12" - i mean at the end of the day you don't pee away the 12" at least thats the way i look at it.

[Moksha]

all of the above...plu: a lot of house heads just plain don't like booze.

[rob gregory]

Peace.

I'll drop a minimum of $40 when I'm alone. If I'm out with peeps, I'll buy atleast one round.

I can't dance. I listen to loud music and drink.

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by bitonti:
its the value system - when one drink is the same price as one domestic 12" - i mean at the end of the day you don't pee away the 12" at least thats the way i look at it. Interesting. Yet this only applies to DJs.

[kev]

Almost every bartender in this city knows my name.

[Drrtynewyork]

usually no hot girls like in the hiphop/latin clubs, so you dont need to consume alcohol. Hiphop/spanish clubs are mostly about mackin' so of course everyone wants to get blitzed. house parties are mostly for the music.

['Magic' Juan]

I just don't drink ... or smoke, either.

magic_juan graemlins/beerchug.gif (Kool-Aid mugs)

[Friday]

I) You have not seen me dance drunk :eek: graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

[Jamie 3:26]

Now if you sold weed at house events...no issues.

Some folks do not have it like they did back in the day.Kids,families,jobs, all come into the picture.

Most of the older folks who are still partying,still get in free or haggle their way in,then just come to dance thier asses off.

It's different in certain situations,but the ones who come to party,pay to get in,by drinks..water or likka,and come to dance..are the heart of the whole shabang.

It don't matter if you got DJ Jesus on the box,if the nucleus "the party people" are not there,you just lost out.

[DJJM3.COM]

DUI laws are stricter...............

[MYOR]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
Is it because:

A) househeads are all recovering alcoholics

B) househeads are just cheap

C) househeads are just plain broke

F) househeads are on drugs already (like weed, coke, whatever) therefore they require no alcohol consumption.

[/QB]I think its mostly about that.. I have at least 3 drinks when I'm out... Try not to drink and drive graemlins/beerchug.gif

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by DJ JM3:
DUI laws are stricter............... True. This doesn't apply to most in NYC (subways/cabs) but I know it's an issue everywhere else on the planet.

[jimmymack-2000]

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure many will), but I think there's also an implicit rejection of alcohol as a "white man's drug" in there as well.

Many househeads make choices that take them out of the consumer mainstream, such as being vegan, riding a bicycle around the city instead of driving, etc. Alcohol would fall into that category, I think. Also, there's an element of "respect your body" spiritualism that's big in the house community.

P.S. I do know that beer was first brewed in Egypt, so it's not technically a white thing...

If you go to mainstream venues you'll no doubt see fighting and other things that aren't "house" mostly due to alcohol consumption.

[ June 17, 2003, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: jimmymack-2000 ]

[The Donger]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure many will), but I think there's also an implicit rejection of alcohol as a "white man's drug" in there as well.

Many househeads make choices that take them out of the consumer mainstream, such as being vegan, riding a bicycle around the city instead of driving, etc. Alcohol would fall into that category, I think. Also, there's an element of "respect your body" spiritualism that's big in the house community.

P.S. I do know that beer was first brewed in Egypt, so it's not technically a white thing...

If you go to mainstream venues you'll no doubt see fighting and other things that aren't "house" mostly due to alcohol consumption. But that's so boring.

[El Mayimbe]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
I've seen this mentioned many times on DHP, and there is some truth to it. My question is: WHY?

Is it because:

A) househeads are all recovering alcoholics

B) househeads are just cheap

C) househeads are just plain broke

D) househeads are just too old to drink and still go to work the next day

E) househeads don't want alcohol to interfere with their dancing

F) househeads are on drugs already (like weed, coke, whatever) therefore they require no alcohol consumption.

G) househeads partied SO hard in the 80s & 90s that one more drink might kill them

H) all of the above From my experience all this would apply to DEEPHOUSE parties, cause in parties for Prog/Tracne or faster hosue music tends to make a killing @the bar
graemlins/acclaim.gif

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure many will), but I think there's also an implicit rejection of alcohol as a "white man's drug" in there as well.
That's hilarious. It never occurred to me that some would consider alcohol a "white man's drug".

I recognize that there are some spiritual "respect your body" types in the scene. That is evident.

And there is a definitely a lack of alcohol-fueled brawls, but I think the music (& the message) may have more to do with that than the liquor. Househeads just tend to be more respectful of others in general, which leads to much fewer fights.

[Koffy Brown]

To answer your question I may have a beer or two when i go out dancing...no liquor...liquor has a tendancy to slow me down...I don't need that on the dancefloor...so water is it when I begin to really get my boogie, dance and sweat on...

[Red D]

*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD

[Hk]

Cant speak for anyone but myself;

I dont drink alcohol, 1, and I dont
like paying 6 clams 4 a bottled water! mad1.gif

[Mack-Williams]

I need drinks to loosen up then it is on. So I probably will spend about 40 bucks at a party depending on how cheap the drinks are.

[DJJM3.COM]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ JM3:
DUI laws are stricter............... True. This doesn't apply to most in NYC (subways/cabs) but I know it's an issue everywhere else on the planet. </font>[/QUOTE]Most of us "heads" are far beyond high school and drive to most of the parties. Lot of us live in the 'Burbs and drive to the City......and no one wants to be the Driver for the night.......

[MYOR]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure many will), but I think there's also an implicit rejection of alcohol as a "white man's drug" in there as well.
graemlins/rofl.gif Now even drinking is a black/white thing.. come one icon_rofl.gif

[cynti]

At times the choice between gas money home and booze... well let's just say I'd rather be a bit sober than be walkin all hours in Chicago honey !!

[Moksha]

Originally posted by Red D:
smile.gif[/img]
Oh, really . . . http://deephousepage.com/smilies/scratchchin.gif

[Jolyon]

Well in many house clubs here (though less so these days) most of the punters are on pills and just drink water.

[daniel]

Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure many will), but I think there's also an implicit rejection of alcohol as a "white man's drug" in there as well.
graemlins/rofl.gif Now even drinking is a black/white thing.. come one icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]yes. however, please understand that tequila and sake do not fall under the white man's umbrella.

[däp]

Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD i'm curious to know the number of alcohol-related accidents that occur in your country.

[Red D]

Originally posted by Orion:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
smile.gif[/img]
Oh, really . . . http://deephousepage.com/smilies/scratchchin.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Did I mention the chores?

biggrinangel.gif

RD

[MYOR]

Originally posted by daniel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure many will), but I think there's also an implicit rejection of alcohol as a "white man's drug" in there as well.
graemlins/rofl.gif Now even drinking is a black/white thing.. come one icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]yes. however, please understand that tequila and sake do not fall under the white man's umbrella. </font>[/QUOTE]How about Ron Bermudex or Presidente Beer? graemlins/all_coholic.gif graemlins/all_coholic.gif

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by torin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD i'm curious to know the number of alcohol-related accidents that occur in your country. </font>[/QUOTE]The way that damn Belgian beer is...I would expect to see cars crashed all over the damn place. graemlins/all_coholic.gif

[Red D]

Originally posted by torin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD i'm curious to know the number of alcohol-related accidents that occur in your country. </font>[/QUOTE]Surprisingly enough that's not the number you would expect. Dunno by heart but it's not substantially different from the rest of Europe, dunno about the US though.
Will try to look that up!

RD

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by PhoreAyem:
Peace.

I'll drop a minimum of $40 when I'm alone. If I'm out with peeps, I'll buy atleast one round.

I can't dance. I listen to loud music and drink. Sounds like me. So when we hangin'? I missed you the last time at Deep.

[Red D]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by torin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD i'm curious to know the number of alcohol-related accidents that occur in your country. </font>[/QUOTE]The way that damn Belgian beer is...I would expect to see cars crashed all over the damn place. graemlins/all_coholic.gif </font>[/QUOTE]We can take it... graemlins/beerchug.gif

RD

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by daniel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure many will), but I think there's also an implicit rejection of alcohol as a "white man's drug" in there as well.
graemlins/rofl.gif Now even drinking is a black/white thing.. come one icon_rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]yes. however, please understand that tequila and sake do not fall under the white man's umbrella. </font>[/QUOTE]How about Ron Bermudex or Presidente Beer? graemlins/all_coholic.gif graemlins/all_coholic.gif </font>[/QUOTE]White man's, yellow man's, red man's, brown man's...shit, even some WOMEN's...

GIVE ME ALL THAT SHIT! The white devils make some biz-angin' liquor.

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by torin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD i'm curious to know the number of alcohol-related accidents that occur in your country. </font>[/QUOTE]The way that damn Belgian beer is...I would expect to see cars crashed all over the damn place. graemlins/all_coholic.gif </font>[/QUOTE]We can take it... graemlins/beerchug.gif

RD </font>[/QUOTE]Isn't Brueg (or Breug - sp) from Belgium? MAN, awesome brew! Awesome!

[And]

Just can't handle much more than a glass or 3 of wine. When I'm out alcohol does slow me down. Plus I love traveling solo (do what I want when I want) and being drunk behind the wheel is NEVER an option.

[JL]

clearly none of you have been to a DC house event - bunch of alkies.

[The Donger]

Originally posted by JL:
clearly none of you have been to a DC house event - bunch of alkies. I heard it's cause the music sux.

[MusicFilter]

Sing along now!

Set up one more ro-ound.

Baby hit me one more time,

Startin' to enjoy iiiit! graemlins/all_coholic.gif

I'm ole' school. I get my drink on in the car before I come to the party. graemlins/respekt.gif

[And]

Originally posted by JL:
clearly none of you have been to a DC house event - bunch of alkies. and you know why I'm doing this right now right JL? icon_rofl.gif

;)

[Bill Blake]

I woke up this morning and told myself I wasnt gonna drink tonight but I remembered that I got seasons one and two of Sex In The City which just aint the same without a bottle of wine so now Ill be drinking every night straight for the next two weeks until I get through all the episodes and Ill be damned if going to a house club will get in the way of my watching Sex In The City!

[JL]

bigsy drinking? there can only be one reason for that

[The Donger]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
I woke up this morning and told myself I wasnt gonna drink tonight but I remembered that I got seasons one and two of Sex In The City which just aint the same without a bottle of wine so now Ill be drinking every night straight for the next two weeks until I get through all the episodes and Ill be damned if going to a house club will get in the way of my watching Sex In The City! That show is terrible.

Try smoking a joint and watching "Curb Your Enthusiasm".

[JL]

sign of a pothead -

i smoked a blunt and made a mix
i smoked a few bowls and went skating
i smoked a joint and watched tv

is anything you enjoy weed free?

[Red D]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by torin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD i'm curious to know the number of alcohol-related accidents that occur in your country. </font>[/QUOTE]The way that damn Belgian beer is...I would expect to see cars crashed all over the damn place. graemlins/all_coholic.gif </font>[/QUOTE]We can take it... graemlins/beerchug.gif

RD </font>[/QUOTE]Isn't Brueg (or Breug - sp) from Belgium? MAN, awesome brew! Awesome! </font>[/QUOTE]Doesn't ring a bell, are you sure about the spelling?
We have one called 'Brigand'?
RD

[jsd540]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DJ 138:
[QB]
G) househeads partied SO hard in the 80s & 90s that one more drink might kill them

icon_rofl.gif

Seriously I at least have a coffee or order a beer for some friends. 'cause hangin all night w/o a drink ain't cool...

[And]

Originally posted by JL:
bigsy drinking? there can only be one reason for that Yeah ... but if you're thinking what I suspect you're thinking ... then er ... Shhhhhh! Hahaha
Went "JL" style over the weekend with some 141 proof Absinthe from Spain.
Okay I'm bragging ... I didn't go "JL" style. Only three glasses .. :D

and er ... Mary Jane loves you too. graemlins/rofl.gif

[daniel]

Originally posted by JL:
sign of a pothead -

i smoked a blunt and made a mix
i smoked a few bowls and went skating
i smoked a joint and watched tv

is anything you enjoy weed free? hangin' with the moms and surfing.

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Orion:
a lot of house heads just plain don't like booze. haven't read the rest of the post, but had to answer this.....This is not so.

As far as the choices given by dj 138, how come there is not a coice of CLUB BAR PRICES ARE OUTRAGEOUS.

[Drrtynewyork]

more women at house clubs = more drinking

no women = dancing sober with a bottle of water

[richierich]

**** that .. stick to weed!!! Alchohol is a depressant but the bar does need to make money as well. The heads I know drink their asses off.

[richierich]

Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
more women at house clubs = more drinking

no women = dancing sober with a bottle of water What does women have to do with drinking??

[rob gregory]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Orion:
a lot of house heads just plain don't like booze. haven't read the rest of the post, but had to answer this.....This is not so.

As far as the choices given by dj 138, how come there is not a coice of CLUB BAR PRICES ARE OUTRAGEOUS. </font>[/QUOTE]On average for the spots I hit: $5 for Heineken; 6-6.50 for a mixed drink.

I went to a spot where the Heineken was $8.
:eek:

[M3taPhsX]

I drink like a fish when I go out. But the prices these clubs charge for drink is a fukin rip off. Then you have to tip the snobby bartender that, (btw took 15 minutes to get to you)because if you don't, he/she will never come back to you.

[ June 17, 2003, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: M3taPhsX ]

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
how come there is not a coice of CLUB BAR PRICES ARE OUTRAGEOUS. Truedat.

[Fletch]

My take: It seems, from my view, that househeads are more about gettin' their dance on, and drinkin is secondary. At hip hop/R&B parties, getting your drink on is first, and dancing is secondary. That's the way I view it.

Let's be real, though. Many bars/clubs may not want to host house events if there's little or no support at the bar. My suggestion for non drinkers--get at least one soda or one bottle of water as a show of support. Peace.

[Moksha]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Orion:
a lot of house heads just plain don't like booze. haven't read the rest of the post, but had to answer this.....This is not so.

As far as the choices given by dj 138, how come there is not a coice of CLUB BAR PRICES ARE OUTRAGEOUS. </font>[/QUOTE]I know a lot of heads that just don't drink. I don't particularly like drinking, aside from nice wines (which you never find in a bar or club).

However, I think that all of the other reasons originally listed also apply...which include economic concerns.

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by torin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD i'm curious to know the number of alcohol-related accidents that occur in your country. </font>[/QUOTE]The way that damn Belgian beer is...I would expect to see cars crashed all over the damn place. graemlins/all_coholic.gif </font>[/QUOTE]We can take it... graemlins/beerchug.gif

RD </font>[/QUOTE]Isn't Brueg (or Breug - sp) from Belgium? MAN, awesome brew! Awesome! </font>[/QUOTE]Doesn't ring a bell, are you sure about the spelling?
We have one called 'Brigand'?
RD </font>[/QUOTE]A little research - BREUG (FLANDERS FRANCE) 8.0 OZ / 4.6% alc/vol.

http://www.brasserie-terken.com/fr/mediasfr/breug.jpg

Nice brew. I've been looking for it in LA.

[daniel]

bold soul, have you tried looking in Trader Joes?
they've got some beers i've never seen before.

[Austin/Dallas]

Since when does a DJ care about the Bar profits???????????????

So is this why most club owners will not support "House Music Sets" because they don't consume enough at the Bar.

Sorry I'm not cheap but usally drink before I get there.(at home or parking lot) graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Drinks in the club have been know to have the Upper/downer effect on me and is not relaible as a source of social enjoyment.

[KragShot]

You have to support the venue or else.

I do not drink. Now, admittedly, I'll have a beer every six months or so, but only because I'm a former beer taster and amateur brewer. I enjoy the taste of a good brew (Red Stripe, Fosters, Elephant, Mamba, or even a Sam Adams or Rolling Rock), but due to diabetes (type 2), my drinking days are over.

But back to the point, I still will buy a bottle of water, a coke & orange juice (a great combination for maintaining your blood sugar level after dancing and sweating it down) or a bottle of Sobe or Mystic (some places here serve that as well).

Why?

Because if the bar/venue doesn't make money, there's no party. So, if there's a party that I go to, I buy something from the bar. I go to the Attic here in Chicago. I buy two or three bottles of water for $2.00 a pop...then I may buy a round for my friends. It's courteous and it helps support the party. Every other venue that I go to, I buy from the bar. It supports the bar and in turn supports the party.

If the party has no cover charge, then you should make a special effort to hit the bar...even if you are buying bottled water.

If a venue has ridiculous prices for their drinks, then don't patronize the place and let the promoter know the reason. If they are smart, they will move their party to a place with better drink prices.

Like any consumer-driven market, your patronage will ultimately determine the success or failure of a party.

$2.50 drafts, $3.00 bottles and $4.50-$5.00 mixed drinks are not unreasonalble prices, considering the economy. Then if the venue has drink specials on your party night, then it's all the better.

At this point in the game, disco/house crowds should take responsibility for supporting their genre. The easiest way for that is to frequent the bar in your given venue.

Hip-Hop crowds keep the bar afloat easily. It's part of the culture/paradigm to buy expensive drinks (shots of Hennessey, bottles of Krystal(sp), a magnum of champagne, etc...) to demonstrate that you're a "high-roller."

Progressive Crowds just drink because they are the prevalent party crowd today and whatever the dominant music style is, the people just follow the trend and drink.

If a venue isn't serving what you want, get together and let them know that you want something particular. Most bar owners will stock special stuff, if they know that somebody will drink it. I got an entire bar in Gary hooked on Red Stripe. One day, I was in a bar that I frequented and I asked for it and they didn't have it. The manager ordered a case the next day. I started drinking it on a regular basis (daily- 2-3 bottles at a time) and when somebody asked me about it, they tried it and it went from there. One day, I walked in, asked for one and found that it was sold out and 7 other people in the bar were drinking it (dammit- they drank up my private stock). After that, they made sure that I would always get my share.

The moral of this story is that if a bar can make money by being nice to you, they will. Any problem that a crowd has with a venue will almost always be based within the crowd. If it is the venue's fault, everyone will know it at once.

'Nuff said....

KragShot

[ June 17, 2003, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: KragShot ]

[DuaneA]

I think that if a place doesn't charge a cover everyone should buy at least one drink. Drink being , coke, sprite, beer or liqour. A lot of clubs in Chicago don't have the proper licenses to charge so it's free to get in. The only way to pay the DJ, promoter, and staff is from people spending money at the bar.

Basically, if the place has no cover charge, you should assume that the cover charge has been built into the drink prices. Buy a drink and support the DJ /venue that is playing the house that you like. If noone drinks, the format of the venue will change to get people who drink.

[So easy a protic can do it (QUAD)]

THE DRINKS ARE TOO DAMNED WATERED DOWN!!!!! I WOULD BY MORE IF THEY'D MAKE THEM A LITTLE STRONGER! I DON'T HAVE A CAR SO WHY I GOTTA DRINK
PEPSI FLAVORED BARCARDI?!?!??!


"i'm a true alkee" icon_rofl.gif

[DJ CHRIS PURTELL]

yes the issue is real and definitly affecting a House night near you

[dennis f]

Our crowd has gotten older and unfortunately wiser which in combination creates restraint. Whether it be economic restraint or vice restraint.........
I'll explain.....

Remember when you were 18? Money didn't matter much...yeah we knew the value of it but you shrugged it off cuz you figured you'll get some later somehow...well now combine that with the hormones that were raging through your body on top of the mackin' both males and females did in the club ON top of the serious imbibing of liquor or other substances that your friends always somehow had access to and......well the party was on!!.......
ffwd.....we're in our late 20's, late 30s', mid 40's, "man......the rent/mortgage is due, momma aint payin' for the new car, the kids need new shoes, they're about to cut off the long distance....and they want how much for a mixed drink? uh no thanks i'll take a bottle of Poland Spring please...WHAT? $4 dollars for bottled water? f*ck that! find me an empty bottle ..i'ma fill that bitch up in the bathroom!!"LMAO
yall get my drift?

It's not that "Househeads don't drink" It's just that our fan base has grown up.....hence my constantly ignored plea of needing to infuse new blood into our genre's bloodstream. Think about this...what if your mom and pops told you they were goin' out tonight to the club to go dance and get f@cked up? Tell me you wouldn't do a double take on that one? I'd be like ..."my mom and pa are freaks!!"

This is the number 1 and i mean #1 reason why the clubs are not willing to host our nights...therefore no club exposure = no radio = no new blood = Eventual DEATH and Jazz Cd101.9 status...It's like that poster they always showed us in school about how pcb's effect our ecosystem...the effects aren't noticed until it's too far up the food chain and it's way too late...

just my 2 cents
dee

[DJ CHRIS PURTELL]

bitonti.

Mike want to know when the last time you bought a domestic 12 was anyway graemlins/rofl.gif

[House]

WHY?

WHY????

WHY??????????

cause the scene is FULL of ****ing losers. These losers will never say they are losers, no way. What they do is go through utterly useless semantic gyrations that justify their loserdom to themselves.
Cats say they don't drink....crack a bottle and see how fast that teetoaler drains it
Cats say drinks are too expensive...yet will pony up when YOU are buying.
Cats say they can't afford "X"..then get a better paying job (btw..if ya can't afford to party what are you doing in the club)
Cats got kids to raise..yet will be out 3 - 4 -5 nights a week - partying?!
Cats will fly across country to see other peeps yet can't by shit for their kids
Cats waste their talentsdoing nada when they could be making ends in the music business
Cats give a **** about the latest club gossip yet don't know any of the democratic candidates for president
Cats stink yet dont wash cause they're gonna "sweat anyway"
Cats look like slobs yet the only excercise they get is the 10 minute stretches on the dancefloor
Cats **** the dj's cause they wanna be down
Cats know where the new clubs are located yet can't find Iraq on a map
and the wort are cats who are in this scene for years and STILL have no clue about the economics of the club BUSINESS


I can go on but why bother...i'm sure the offended will have very reasonable sounding rebuttals

the bottom line is that this scene is full of losers and underacheivers who just want to party ALL the time

one of the biggest reasons i don't go to any clubs anymore is cause of the stench - of LOSERS...i'm deathly afraid it might rub off on me (as if)

the man with no name (formerly B Love)

[MsAlayneous]

Cats stink yet dont wash cause they're gonna "sweat anyway eewwww graemlins/puke.gif

[JoeB]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
WHY?

WHY????

WHY??????????

cause the scene is FULL of ****ing losers. These losers will never say they are losers, no way. What they do is go through utterly useless semantic gyrations that justify their loserdom to themselves.
Cats say they don't drink....crack a bottle and see how fast that teetoaler drains it
Cats say drinks are too expensive...yet will pony up when YOU are buying.
Cats say they can't afford "X"..then get a better paying job (btw..if ya can't afford to party what are you doing in the club)
Cats got kids to raise..yet will be out 3 - 4 -5 nights a week - partying?!
Cats will fly across country to see other peeps yet can't by shit for their kids
Cats waste their talentsdoing nada when they could be making ends in the music business
Cats give a **** about the latest club gossip yet don't know any of the democratic candidates for president
Cats stink yet dont wash cause they're gonna "sweat anyway"
Cats look like slobs yet the only excercise they get is the 10 minute stretches on the dancefloor
Cats **** the dj's cause they wanna be down
Cats know where the new clubs are located yet can't find Iraq on a map
and the wort are cats who are in this scene for years and STILL have no clue about the economics of the club BUSINESS


I can go on but why bother...i'm sure the offended will have very reasonable sounding rebuttals

the bottom line is that this scene is full of losers and underacheivers who just want to party ALL the time

one of the biggest reasons i don't go to any clubs anymore is cause of the stench - of LOSERS...i'm deathly afraid it might rub off on me (as if)

the man with no name (formerly B Love) hail.gif hail.gif hail.gif

[TAC]

Originally posted by JoeB:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
WHY?

WHY????

WHY??????????

cause the scene is FULL of ****ing losers. These losers will never say they are losers, no way. What they do is go through utterly useless semantic gyrations that justify their loserdom to themselves.
Cats say they don't drink....crack a bottle and see how fast that teetoaler drains it
Cats say drinks are too expensive...yet will pony up when YOU are buying.
Cats say they can't afford "X"..then get a better paying job (btw..if ya can't afford to party what are you doing in the club)
Cats got kids to raise..yet will be out 3 - 4 -5 nights a week - partying?!
Cats will fly across country to see other peeps yet can't by shit for their kids
Cats waste their talentsdoing nada when they could be making ends in the music business
Cats give a **** about the latest club gossip yet don't know any of the democratic candidates for president
Cats stink yet dont wash cause they're gonna "sweat anyway"
Cats look like slobs yet the only excercise they get is the 10 minute stretches on the dancefloor
Cats **** the dj's cause they wanna be down
Cats know where the new clubs are located yet can't find Iraq on a map
and the wort are cats who are in this scene for years and STILL have no clue about the economics of the club BUSINESS


I can go on but why bother...i'm sure the offended will have very reasonable sounding rebuttals

the bottom line is that this scene is full of losers and underacheivers who just want to party ALL the time

one of the biggest reasons i don't go to any clubs anymore is cause of the stench - of LOSERS...i'm deathly afraid it might rub off on me (as if)

the man with no name (formerly B Love) hail.gif hail.gif hail.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Someone had to say it.

[daniel]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:


the bottom line is that this scene is full of losers and underacheivers who just want to party ALL the time

hahahahaha

"my girl wants to party all the time, party all the time, party all the tiiiiiiiime"

[House]

excuse the hyperbole

when i say don't go to clubs anymore what i mean is that i ain't a regular at any spot any more...i still go out, sometimes..but usually when i'm in a spot it's cause dollars is somehow involved for me

its funny cause i told this hottie the other day, that the most attractive thing about her is that i rarely saw her at my events....

[ June 17, 2003, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: your idol, Buddy Love ]

[jcapeverde]

Originally posted by magic_juan:
I just don't drink ... or smoke, either.

magic_juan graemlins/beerchug.gif (Kool-Aid mugs) Same here, but I'll ask my dance partner if she'd like anything. All I'm drinking is water.

[mhd]

when i go out, i spend way too much at the bar, especially if i stay longer than an hour, to me that's part of supporting the event. when i go to jl's party at open door, i usually know the guy at the door, the bartender, the owner the host, the djs, etc, so technically, i should not have to pay a dime to drink, but i never let jl buy me a drink cause i'm there to support him and the venue.

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by daniel:
bold soul, have you tried looking in Trader Joes?
they've got some beers i've never seen before. I'll have to check. I usually only buy food and wine from TJs. Great spot, eh?

Man - is it up to me to plan the DHP LA hangout night? Just let me know so I can get started. It isn't like I'm getting anything else done, knawmean?

[House]

Originally posted by mhd:
when i go out, i spend way too much at the bar, especially if i stay longer than an hour, to me that's part of supporting the event. when i go to jl's party at open door, i usually know the guy at the door, the bartender, the owner the host, the djs, etc, so technically, i should not have to pay a dime to drink, but i never let jl buy me a drink cause i'm there to support him and the venue. its funny...my drink of choice is a madras made with grey goose..an 8 - 10 dollar drink...i usually drink for free but still pay the abartender 3 to 5 dollars as a tip on each drink i get...besides this i buy rounds (those aint free)...ya gotta pay to play

if you dont spend at the venue IT WILL SHUT DOWN OR KICK YOU TO THE CURB

[mhd]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
when i go out, i spend way too much at the bar, especially if i stay longer than an hour, to me that's part of supporting the event. when i go to jl's party at open door, i usually know the guy at the door, the bartender, the owner the host, the djs, etc, so technically, i should not have to pay a dime to drink, but i never let jl buy me a drink cause i'm there to support him and the venue. its funny...my drink of choice is a madras made with grey goose..an 8 - 10 dollar drink...i usually drink for free but still pay the abartender 3 to 5 dollars as a tip on each drink i get...besides this i buy rounds (those aint free)...ya gotta pay to play

if you dont spend at the venue IT WILL SHUT DOWN OR KICK YOU TO THE CURB </font>[/QUOTE]it really is that simple

[DOTSmusic]

you have obviously never seen me and my crew at a party.
we are a bartenders dream come true.
we keep coming back for more, and more, and...
i would'nt even consider buying a drink without leaving a tip.

support your citie's alcohol abuse centers.
graemlins/beerchug.gif

[Red D]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
A little research - BREUG (FLANDERS FRANCE) 8.0 OZ / 4.6% alc/vol.

http://www.brasserie-terken.com/fr/mediasfr/breug.jpg

Nice brew. I've been looking for it in LA. [/QB]Ah, that's why I don't know it, it's made in Roubaix, a town close to the Belgian border in France. It's a lager beer, and with all the famous lagers we already have (Stella, Jupiler, Maes) I don't think they'll be hitting the Belgian market in a major way.
That's a regular lager though, and when you really want to talk about beer you should find some of the special ones we have, look up Westmalle Tripel, Duvel, Rochefort, Brigand and Maredsous for starters smile.gif
Concerning lager the best one I ever tasted was from the Czech Republic called Staropranen Svetly, killer lager with a smooooooth taste, and only $0.50 in the bars over there for a pint...*sigh*...

RD

[nev m]

Originally posted by Red D:
*sigh*

The problems you guys are facing are just stupendous as compared to what we have here in Belgium, it almost makes me feel proud to be a Belgian :eek:

Can't help but make y'all jealous:

- You can have a beer while walking on the street and say 'Hi' to a cop

- Drinking & Driving, speeding, parking violations are prohibited but the chances of getting caught are slim to none (been driving for 3 years, almost always speeding a bit, in the weekends usually a bit too much on the beer/wine/liquor side and never wear my seat belts, and I'm notorious for parking where I can't...the result is just 4 tickets, all in all some $300 in 3 years)

- Smoking weed / hash is illegal but nowadays it's tolerated almost up to 100%

- With one or two exceptions we have open end at all bars, clubs and parties

- If you would see the amount of alcohol that's being consumed on one of these long nights, be it a club, bar, etc... :eek:

So there, get those immigration cards and plain tickets, I'll be happy to take you in until you find a job here smile.gif

RD Get the spare bed made up! (I'll have the big room this time!) :D

I'll do my best to get a job quickly! (but you can't rush these things!)

The above is all so true, so laid back it's almost unbelievable.

Whatever you want Belgium's got it (maybe I could get a job with the Belgian tourist board!)

Looking forward too drinking lots, and more Belgian beer! hic! graemlins/all_coholic.gif

[ June 18, 2003, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: nev m ]

[Terri 447]

You will ALWAYS see the NuLife family at the bar

graemlins/beerchug.gif graemlins/beerchug.gif graemlins/beerchug.gif

[daniel]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by daniel:
bold soul, have you tried looking in Trader Joes?
they've got some beers i've never seen before. I'll have to check. I usually only buy food and wine from TJs. Great spot, eh?

Man - is it up to me to plan the DHP LA hangout night? Just let me know so I can get started. It isn't like I'm getting anything else done, knawmean? </font>[/QUOTE]they had a couple obscure european stuff last time i was there (which was actually my first time there too). picked up some Acme pale ale (a local brewery), which is just plain sick.

and yes, it is up to you. smile.gif

[SOUL SAUCE]

all of the above!!!! great topic... lol...

im actually trying to stop drinking.. i had my share of disasterously drunk episodes... Trashed Tangas is not a cute site. lol... time to get serious... now that im turning 27 TOMORROOWWWW.... IT'S MY BIRTHDAYYYY damn it!!!!!! LET'S HIT THE BAR!!!!!!!! LOL...

[Sensei Melei]

It's hard to hold a bar on your back and drink at the same time...

[bitonti]

Originally posted by DJ CHRIS PURTELL:
bitonti.

Mike want to know when the last time you bought a domestic 12 was anyway graemlins/rofl.gif tell mike i say wassup and i buy constantly - most recent 12 was the floatry "say yes" and the most recent import was Dj Gregory Elle on Faya Combo

hey its hard to pick out my own stuff tho i know how Mike shops - morning flight to Chi where his "contacts" @ grammaphone sneak him a shady peak through Derrick Carter's personal record pile, back in Philly by 4pm graemlins/grinyes.gif

[ June 19, 2003, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: bitonti ]

[kev]

When I read about the evils of drinking I give up reading. - Henny Youngman

Beer is proof the God loves us and wants us to go to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin

Twenty-four hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not. - Stephen Wright

An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with fools. - Ernest Hemingway

[Gojay]

Originally posted by your idol, Buddy Love:
WHY?

WHY????

WHY??????????

cause the scene is FULL of ****ing losers. These losers will never say they are losers, no way. What they do is go through utterly useless semantic gyrations that justify their loserdom to themselves.
Cats say they don't drink....crack a bottle and see how fast that teetoaler drains it
Cats say drinks are too expensive...yet will pony up when YOU are buying.
Cats say they can't afford "X"..then get a better paying job (btw..if ya can't afford to party what are you doing in the club)
Cats got kids to raise..yet will be out 3 - 4 -5 nights a week - partying?!
Cats will fly across country to see other peeps yet can't by shit for their kids
Cats waste their talentsdoing nada when they could be making ends in the music business
Cats give a **** about the latest club gossip yet don't know any of the democratic candidates for president
Cats stink yet dont wash cause they're gonna "sweat anyway"
Cats look like slobs yet the only excercise they get is the 10 minute stretches on the dancefloor
Cats **** the dj's cause they wanna be down
Cats know where the new clubs are located yet can't find Iraq on a map
and the wort are cats who are in this scene for years and STILL have no clue about the economics of the club BUSINESS


I can go on but why bother...i'm sure the offended will have very reasonable sounding rebuttals

the bottom line is that this scene is full of losers and underacheivers who just want to party ALL the time

one of the biggest reasons i don't go to any clubs anymore is cause of the stench - of LOSERS...i'm deathly afraid it might rub off on me (as if)

the man with no name (formerly B Love) Hi, my name is Gojay and I'm a loser!

(everyone sitting aaround) Hi Gojay!

[JL]

Bigsy/D - I'm an occasional pot smoker, but as I'm getting older it seems that's gonna be the only one I use. The harder shit takes too much out of me now.

mhd is the model patron. man definitely drops loot at the bar - he understands. but hey dude, take a round from me next time, i wouldn't feel like I'm doing my duty as a host if you didn't.

the excuses are lame. if you can't spend at least $20 (bare minimum) at a bar on drinks (even water, soda, whatever), you should've made it a blockbuster night.

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
A little research - BREUG (FLANDERS FRANCE) 8.0 OZ / 4.6% alc/vol.

http://www.brasserie-terken.com/fr/mediasfr/breug.jpg

Nice brew. I've been looking for it in LA. Ah, that's why I don't know it, it's made in Roubaix, a town close to the Belgian border in France. It's a lager beer, and with all the famous lagers we already have (Stella, Jupiler, Maes) I don't think they'll be hitting the Belgian market in a major way.
That's a regular lager though, and when you really want to talk about beer you should find some of the special ones we have, look up Westmalle Tripel, Duvel, Rochefort, Brigand and Maredsous for starters smile.gif
Concerning lager the best one I ever tasted was from the Czech Republic called Staropranen Svetly, killer lager with a smooooooth taste, and only $0.50 in the bars over there for a pint...*sigh*...

RD [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Hipping me to strong beers isn't a good idea. Then again, it's a GREAT IDEA!

On the lookout now. Say - how about a film screening in Belgium, hm? I can make subtitles happen fairly soon.

[Bill Blake]

Im drunk off my ass

And just got done watching 4 episodes of Sex In The City

[Shalewa]

I almost never drink alcohol because I don't particularly enjoy its effects. If it is a "good party" in my estimation I am dancing a whole lot and not even thinking about drinking (even water) although I am usually good for a water or two, even as I find the costs can be patently unreasonable- I have been charged $6 for an 8oz bottle of water. Domestic beers were cheaper! I honestly believe folks should raise the damn covers and give water away and lay off of folks who don't want to drink.

[JMNYC]

I believe that the reason "house" parties don't do as well at the bar as many other parties is because "house" music and "house" crowds are a tad more enlightened... which might also explain why we use the term "deep" so damn much, I might add.

Excessive alcohol and drug intake are generally signs of escapism. "House", unlike many other forms of popular music played in clubs these days, generally has positive connotations and emotions attached to it - in the lyrics, the keys, the instruments, the dance, the community.

Look at the LOFT parties as a perfect example. Hundreds of people gathering to celebrate life through dance and music as opposed to going to a bar or club to "numb" themselves via substances to the pain and strife of living in this world.

I think a lot of househeads enjoy going out to express through the music & dance their emotions - joy, love, happiness, sadness, pain, & sorrow - as opposed to the other scenes where folks go out to get so f*cked up and/or actually f*cked as a means to forget how miserable they are.

The most common substances taken by house heads enhance the clubbing/music experience rather than make it.

BTW, anyone who knows me will understand the irony here... I guess we're all works in progress.

[ June 19, 2003, 09:30 PM: Message edited by: JMNYC ]

[DJ Johnny Key]

I always support the bar, but you have to realize, tipping is a taught behavior. Many people have not been taught that tipping brings about good service. For someone who has been disadvantaged all thier life and has not been taught the value of tipping, to them it seems like giving away money for nothing, when actually what you are recieving is better service (and more liquor) in most cases!