There is NO more House in the CHICAGO GAY SCENE

[richierich]

This is where my House relationship started but now they are not even House anymore. I always associated House with the Gay scene and I hung DEEP for a long time (since 1983). Things here have changed dramatically. The thing now is everybody wants to look like a throwback or a thug and there is No music. The HIP-HOP that is being played is horrible.It was the music and the uninhibitedness of the scene that attracted me in the first place. Now that there is NO music anymore and I was NEVER gay in the first place ..there is no meeting point anymore. The friends that I have made are near an dear to me but the parties REALLY suck bad now, Even the Gay pride events now have No music, just radio hip - hop. I don't wanna hear shit going boy o boy o boy o boy o boy whatever that is. I'll just vibe with the children that I do know and leave it at that. But the days of being in the trenches (dancefloor) with the boys jacking to serious house are gone. I don't call Frankie's parties gay parties they're just parties so yes I plan on attending his parties because they are House but that's about it until they get over whatever it is that they are going through. From Rialto's, La Ray's, Trade & Flavor, Stop & Drink, The Generator,The Clubhouse, Bad Boys, 178, 411 club, PowerPlant, The Box, The Ritz, Waterworks, Christopher Street, Club Escape to NOTHING. I never thought that the sanctitude of House would leave the GAY scene..but it has at least in Chicago... I'ts been a nice 20yrs.
Bye Bye!!

[ August 13, 2003, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[VEESTER]

Rich, I understand your disappointment with the gay party scene. That's one reason why I don't do any of the gay clubs anymore. Alot of them have bought into this whole hip-hop thang. I do like some hip-hop too but I'ma true house head! I hate it when some of my friends try to cut house cause now they all into hip-hop, but I remember when they lived for house and now they wanna front. They can have their hip-hop and hip-hop boyz, I'll be over here continuing to house til the day I D-I-E!

[JMJ]

What about the parties Craig Loftis throws at Reunion??......JMJ

[richierich]

Originally posted by JMJ:
What about the parties Craig Loftis throws at Reunion??......JMJ Those are monthly or something. The last time I did go I caught Byron Stingly and Leonard Part Sixx beat it ridiculously but the children aint flockin like they use to. It's alright but watered down compared to what I'm used to.

[Sensei Melei]

Originally posted by JMJ:
What about the parties Craig Loftis throws at Reunion??......JMJ We still beat 'em back with House music, but they still want to hear hip hop too. So we have a different hiphop jock to be the guest each month.

Rich:

I agree with your statments 100%. It's just the partygoers of today's generation (straight, gay, or in between) have been raised on hip hop. As much as we would not like to admit it, we have finally gotten OLDer, and the new breed has been brought up in the rap generation. Since they've been inundated with hip hop through the various media outlets, that's what they have grown to like, accept, enjoy, and want to hear. It's not just a gay thing, it's a whole generation.

[Mack-Williams]

So I guess I can tell some of my friends House ain't gay no more, Hip-Hop is. :rolleyes:

[richierich]

Originally posted by Sensei Melei-1010:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
What about the parties Craig Loftis throws at Reunion??......JMJ We still beat 'em back with House music, but they still want to hear hip hop too. So we have a different hiphop jock to be the guest each month.

Rich:

I agree with your statments 100%. It's just the partygoers of today's generation (straight, gay, or in between) have been raised on hip hop. As much as we would not like to admit it, we have finally gotten OLDer, and the new breed has been brought up in the rap generation. Since they've been inundated with hip hop through the various media outlets, that's what they have grown to like, accept, enjoy, and want to hear. It's not just a gay thing, it's a whole generation. </font>[/QUOTE]Greg how often do y'all do Reunion??? Do y'all have a mailing list?? If so I wanna be on it so at least I know that there is SOMEWHERE to go if I choose to hang. I hear ya on the generation thang. I am truely disgusted by the turn of events. I can't even get beatdown at GAY PRIDE??? That's horrible. Even TUT and OTIS MACK are into this bullshit, Whrere is Michael Ezebukwu when you need him????

[Sensei Melei]

Rich:
We do the Craig & Darrell parties on the last Saturday of each month. This month will be on the 30th. I will add you to the list to get a mailer. If not, i'll put you on the guest list.

Peace,
mad1.gif

[richierich]

Originally posted by Sensei Melei-1010:
Rich:
We do the Craig & Darrell parties on the last Saturday of each month. This month will be on the 30th. I will add you to the list to get a mailer. If not, i'll put you on the guest list.

Peace,
mad1.gif Cool!!! But when the Hip - Hop starts I'm out. Cause The Prop House does not count.

[ August 13, 2003, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[SHEIK YERBOUTI]

Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
So I guess I can tell some of my friends House ain't gay no more, Hip-Hop is. :rolleyes: EXACTLY! graemlins/lol.gif

[VEESTER]

Originally posted by Sensei Melei-1010:
Rich:
We do the Craig & Darrell parties on the last Saturday of each month. This month will be on the 30th. I will add you to the list to get a mailer. If not, i'll put you on the guest list.

Peace,
mad1.gif I'd like to be added on that mailing list.

[mhd]

rich, sounds like that only applies to the black scene, my impression is that there is a straight line (pun intended) from bistros to clubs now and it ain't rap

[richierich]

Originally posted by mhd:
rich, sounds like that only applies to the black scene, my impression is that there is a straight line (pun intended) from bistros to clubs now and it ain't rap Yeah I'm talking about the Black scene. The two worlds were always pretty much seperate here. You had a little trickle over on both sides (race wise) but basically it was segregated.

[LEONARD REMIX RROY]

Jeffery Pub is the same way - Hip Hop / mo Hip Hop. I played new & old House on Thursday's up until I left Chicago. I believe it is a "If you hear it long enough, you'll like it" kind of thing and the radio gives no other choice as of music.

[richierich]

Originally posted by LEONARD REMIX RROY:
Jeffery Pub is the same way - Hip Hop / mo Hip Hop. I played new & old House on Thursday's up until I left Chicago. I believe it is a "If you hear it long enough, you'll like it" kind of thing and the radio gives no other choice as of music. Yeah those OLD children are still getting mugged when they step out of there. I live maybe 3 blocks from there and it was always TIRED anyways. That's like the Gay folks retirement club for Grey hair only. And I aint gonna be carrying a can of roach spray when I go out.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by richierich:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
rich, sounds like that only applies to the black scene, my impression is that there is a straight line (pun intended) from bistros to clubs now and it ain't rap Yeah I'm talking about the Black scene. The two worlds were always pretty much seperate here. You had a little trickle over on both sides (race wise) but basically it was segregated. </font>[/QUOTE]If you do go up north,they are playing circuit music for the white gay guys.The harder and faster tyhe better.No pun intended.Ralphie Rosario was one of the last jocks who played for the white gays who still played some good music.He now is into the circuit shit too.

I miss the days of going to Foxy's,Cheeks,Bistro's,Trade and Flavor,the Clubhouse on Thurs.,I think it was Thurs,man I can't even remember all of the spots we used to hit.

We would hit those clubs to party so we could stay up on the new music.This was in the early 90's.I have had so many memories attached to partying at gay sets.Hell,we used to roll deep to those sets and turn em out.

[Jamie 3:26]

Come to think off it,I did the theme song to Trade and Flavor with Boo Williams,when he used to play up there.Ha,me doing a bitch track. graemlins/rofl.gif I forgot all about that one... graemlins/rofl.gif

[LEONARD REMIX RROY]

Originally posted by richierich:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by LEONARD REMIX RROY:
Jeffery Pub is the same way - Hip Hop / mo Hip Hop. I played new & old House on Thursday's up until I left Chicago. I believe it is a "If you hear it long enough, you'll like it" kind of thing and the radio gives no other choice as of music. Yeah those OLD children are still getting mugged when they step out of there. I live maybe 3 blocks from there and it was always TIRED anyways. That's like the Gay folks retirement club for Grey hair only. And I aint gonna be carrying a can of roach spray when I go out. </font>[/QUOTE]icon_rofl.gif icon_rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/lol.gif

[mhd]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by richierich:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
rich, sounds like that only applies to the black scene, my impression is that there is a straight line (pun intended) from bistros to clubs now and it ain't rap Yeah I'm talking about the Black scene. The two worlds were always pretty much seperate here. You had a little trickle over on both sides (race wise) but basically it was segregated. </font>[/QUOTE]If you do go up north,they are playing circuit music for the white gay guys.The harder and faster tyhe better.No pun intended.Ralphie Rosario was one of the last jocks who played for the white gays who still played some good music.He now is into the circuit shit too.

I miss the days of going to Foxy's,Cheeks,Bistro's,Trade and Flavor,the Clubhouse on Thurs.,I think it was Thurs,man I can't even remember all of the spots we used to hit.

We would hit those clubs to party so we could stay up on the new music.This was in the early 90's.I have had so many memories attached to partying at gay sets.Hell,we used to roll deep to those sets and turn em out. </font>[/QUOTE]funny how you describe the music because that is just how it used to be, some might call that stuck, i call it continuity. gotta love the children

[formerly known as kenspank]

in the 80's, thanks to i think the british punk influence, the british androgyny influence, free love, civil rights protests, vietnam, stagflation, and voodoo economics young kids weren't as afraid of being different or having their own custom identity.

i think this current youth generation is vulnerable and afraid. their fragile identity hinges upon fitting in and feeling safe.

hip-hop welcomes these youth with open arms. the offer them images of tough men and sexy women. what the artists rap or sing about doens't mean as much. hip-hop merchandises to these youth through fashion brandnames, alcoholic beverages, and car accessories. hip-hop is battles, record contracts, and potentially acting roles in movies.

all house can offer you is a good time. no frills.

[richierich]

No more LOW parties!!!!

[ August 13, 2003, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[So easy a protic can do it (QUAD)]

MANHASSETT WAS INTRODUCED IN RIALTO'S BY DJ MIKE EZEBUKWU AMONGST ALOT OF OTHER TRACKS THAT I DID LONG BEFORE ANYONE HERE EVER HEARD IT. I WISH EVERYONE WAS AT THE CLUBHOUSE ON OPENING NIGHT WHEN HE PLAYED IT WHEN THEY HAD SERVO DRIVES BUILT IN THE FLOOR!!! THAT TRACK SHOOK THE GLASS RACKS AT THE BACK BAR ALONG WITH THE BRICK WALLS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING!! I FEEL YA ON WHAT CHA TALKIN ABOUT, BUT LIKE SENSEI SAID, WE GOT OLDER AND TODAY'S GEN WAS RAISED ON THAT OL HIP-HOP STUFF, TRYIN TO PORTRAY WHAT THEY AIN'T. smile.gif

[HPS]

red dog is still mostly gay on mondays. freddie bain beats some house, not sure if lego or mark grant are there anymore. i do miss club larays, rialtos, stop & drink and of course ron and mike

[HPS]

[ August 13, 2003, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: HPS ]