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Dj Izm
09-22-2004, 01:04 PM
Okay, there's something I don't understand. I hear people say how phat Reason is and then they "run" everything into Pro Tools. What is Pro Tools? I just don't know why you can't do everything in Reason.

I know Reason doesn't do audio, but why can't you record the audio in something else and bring it into Reason via sampler (NN-XT)? I am NOT a musician so I will ask for some understanding of my ignorance.

I have Reason, ReCycle, Bias Peak, and GarageBand. I feel like I should be able to create a banging track with just those elements (in software). Am I naive?? I also have a Yamaha DX-27 synth (gathering dust as I can't play the piano) and a MPC2000XL that I haven't messed with lately (blame it on Reason).

Thanx for the information in advanz!

- izm -

dcook
09-22-2004, 03:11 PM
Pro Tools......is the major software tool which almost ANY and EVERY musical genre will use for their audio production........look at it like an totally in depth portion of your sequencer window in Reason......except THERE are a few MAJOR differences...I.E. First and foremost you can record INTO pro tools you cannot do this with reason(for example laying your vocals down)another advantage is effects.....all in all it just better suited for any final production, sequencing, mixing mastering. So you could take all your rythmns created in Reason and totally fatten them up and make your productions sound truly PRO.....Im sure there is much much more to it but i for one have never used pro tools but gather what i know from looking towards industry mags......Do you read any mags for audio production they can be incredibly helpful...i read on occassion, Computer Music, Modern Recording, there is a slew of them, mainly i pick up the ones with the royalty free sample CDs (so I can use those sounds in Reason as well). And read the articles on techniques and gear reviews..


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<danny massure>
09-22-2004, 03:25 PM
protools is an audio program, its the industry standard. protools is used in house music in 2 ways. one being recording your track into protools and recording your "live" audio along with it. the other being to record your audio elements and editing them before importing into your sequencing program.

thats the short of it anyway.
hope this helps!

Dj Izm
09-22-2004, 05:17 PM
I think I understand now. So, what can I do with Pro Tools Free?

O'love
09-23-2004, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Dj k.Lex -- a.k.a. Dj Izm:
I think I understand now. So, what can I do with Pro Tools Free? Pro Tools Free is crap, and pro tools is highly overrated imho......just take a look at Tracktion if you're looking for a good cheap DAW

dennis f
09-27-2004, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by O'love:
[QUOTE] pro tools is highly overrated imho......graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif I always get a giggle out of this cuz this is soooooo true...TDM architecture is so outdated it's ridiculous. It was only developed because of the ineptitude of earlier cpu processing which at the time made a hell of alot of sense. New cpu's kinda make the advantages null and void. But you know Digidesign and their marketing campaign....leading the lemmings right into water....Right now what makes you a baller are the quality of your ad/da converters. I'd rather spend the 7k on that. I don't give a crap what software you use..but if your rockin' Lavry's, Mytek's or Apogee AD16x's or DA16x's then ya got my attention. They make HD192's seem like fisher price toys! Period! Oh and by the way for those who don't know...Pro Tools LE is NOT Pro Tools! There are deficiency's that even Digidesign admits to in this particular software. Number one is the bit rate in it's mix architecture. They're using this as bait to get you to move up in to their HD world by making it affordable to you. They'll give rtas in it so you'll look at the possibilities and say "oh man I gotta move up to PT HD!" then your nailed!
Logic or Sx for me ..thank you...

later


Pro Foolz...heheh!

Deani
09-27-2004, 03:26 PM
I agree Dennis, a very overated program, the MIDI is also shite. SX has overtaken it I'm afraid.

O'love
09-28-2004, 05:03 AM
i am really happy with ableton live 4......it has increased my productivity bigtime, the workflow is amazing.......especially when it comes to arranging in realtime

So easy a protic can do it (QUAD)
10-04-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Deani:
I agree Dennis, a very overated program, the MIDI is also shite. SX has overtaken it I'm afraid. LET ME SAY THIS......DENNIS HAS HIT IT ON THE HEAD, AND FRANKLY, IT'S ALSO IN THE ENGINEERING SKILLS ONE HAS WHETHER IT'S PRO-FOOLS,( icon_rofl.gif icon_rofl.gif ,DAMN YOU DENNIS :D )LOGIC OR SX.

AD/DA CONVERTERS DETERMINES THE QUALITY, AND I KNOW OF SOME PEOPLE WHOM GOT THE LE SERIES OF THE PRO-TOOLS AND 2 YRS LATER, STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT.

I'VE STUCK BY CUBASE SINCE THE 3.7 SERIES, (EIGHT YRS AGO) AND NOW, THE 2.02, MOVIN UP TO THE 3.O SERIES. EVERY PROGRAM HAS ITS PLUSES AND MINUSES, BUT CUBASE HAS DONE ALOT OF WONDERS FOR THE "IN BLUEBLACKNESS" CAMP...........AND IF YA DON'T BELIEVE ME,

ASK "ALAN SMITHEE" AND "NATALIE COLE" TO "TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT!" :D

<DirtyNumNUm>
11-17-2004, 10:12 AM
I can't believe how much mis-information there is in this thread.

*Real* musicians use ProTools.

Midi-Programmers use Cubase.

Generally speaking of course ;)

<DirtyNumNum>
11-17-2004, 10:14 AM
Hey, no offense...was a joke really graemlins/tongueout.gif