De la Hoya or Mosely, who you got?

**Ken1015** · 09-12-2003, 07:58 AM

This is a tough one. I don't know who to pick.

**JMJ** · 09-12-2003, 08:02 AM

Sugar Shane......JMJ

**ChiJAM** · 09-12-2003, 08:15 AM

My gut reaction is to go with Shane. However, Vernon Forrest (er?) humbled him big time. Then, he looked less than spectacular against some scrub not too long ago. But De LaHoya hasn't had a big fight since Vargas. He beat him, but needed the big pillows to soften Vargas' blows. I think Shane is still fast, but his last few fights have proven that you can disrupt his game plan. Prediction: Shane in a split decision.

ChiJAM

**beaniboy67** · 09-12-2003, 08:24 AM

Here is acool but funny story for u guys!!

I was over in the US about 5 years ago .My brother got married in vegas.I then went to live in Big Bear California with my cousin for a week.We were out partying at a bar and we were havin a pool competition with a bunch of guys.The guys were cool then a fight broke out outside the bar with some local people.Me and my scottish friend and my cousin were laughing and shouting at the people fighting.We were sayin "you call that a punch" You fight like a woman lol.The guys who we were drinking with were laughing too and saying the same.They were egging the guys to fight harder outside.Once all the hilarity was over the dudes we were drinking with were making fun of each other saying "those dudes would beat ure ass in a fight and stuff".We were all laughing and making jokes.In the next hour or so we actually found out who the guys we were partying with were.It was a Mexican boxing club and they were in Big Bear mountain training for there next fights.One of the guys was Oscar Delahoya.This was pretty cool i wasactually drinking and partying with Delahoya and his boxing camp lol.The funny thing is they asked us to go down to the gym and watch them train and stuff,We never went.Probably one of the stupidiest thing ive ever done was not going!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

**Linedog** · 09-12-2003, 08:29 AM

Great story!

My Vote is the Golden Boy. I am not particularly fond of him personally but his skills seem to have gotten better in these past few fights. His only blemish is the Mosley fight. I know Tito beat him on the cards but I feel that was questionable at best. Tito was a great champion but their fight was much closer than that.

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 09-12-2003, 08:30 AM

This is a real tough one. They are both excellent boxers. I think De La Hoya is a smarter fighter than he was last fight. I will go with Shane though cause he dominated Oscar so badly last time. I think it will be a better much closer fight than the first.

**Djay Raare** · 09-12-2003, 08:33 AM

DE LA HOYA!!!!!! Right here [img]graemlins/grinyes.gif[/img]

Bold Soul · 09-12-2003, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Eargasm:
This is a real tough one. They are both excellent boxers. I think De La Hoya is a smarter fighter than he was last fight. I will go with Shane though cause he dominated Oscar so badly last time. I think it will be a better much closer fight than the first.

What fight were you watching?

De La - 10th.

[ September 12, 2003, 09:49 AM: Message edited by: Bold Soul ]

**Fletch** · 09-12-2003, 08:58 AM

DeLaHoya in 9. DeLa will cut off the ring and take away that sugar speed.

Then, it's Hopkins at 160!!!!

**Linedog** · 09-12-2003, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by Eargasm:
This is a real tough one. They are both excellent boxers. I think De La Hoya is a smarter fighter than he was last fight. I will go with Shane though cause he dominated Oscar so badly last time. I think it will be a better much closer fight than the first.

The last fight was close they traded fairly often but it looked like DLH was tanking towards the end. But, a good fight night will be had by all.

**Linedog** · 09-12-2003, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by einnod23:
DeLaHoya in 9. DeLa will cut off the ring and take away that sugar speed.

Then, it's Hopkins at 160!!!!

I don't know about this fight. A lot of time before that can even be put on the table.

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 09-12-2003, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
This is a real tough one. They are both excellent boxers. I think De La Hoya is a smarter fighter than he was last fight. I will go with Shane though cause he dominated Oscar so badly last time. I think it will be a better much closer fight than the first.

What fight were you watching?

De La - 10th. </font>[/QUOTE]I was watching Mosley De La Hoya. De La Hoya got beat soundly.

**marki** · 09-12-2003, 09:08 AM

This is going all the way and there's no doubt in my mind the Golden Boy is getting the nod on w12 pts. This man is an absolute living legend in a sporting sense, he is an as pure as hell athlete of the highest calibre. I'm in no doubt both men are gonna be getting tagged regular but Oscar is going to be the clear winner. Bwoy I luv the boxing.

**Sharp Eye Washington** · 09-12-2003, 09:28 AM

Oscar wins but he is going to have to work hard for it. Mosely is desperate. A desperate fighter is a dangerous fighter. However I think Oscar will win by an 11th round TKO. I also think each fighter will taste the canvas. This has the makings of a classic. Get your VCR/DVD recorders ready this may be the fight of the year. This morning I read a really good article regarding Saturday’s fight by Max Kellerman of ESPN. Check it out if you can. http://msn.espn.go.com/boxing/column...x/1612871.html

**ChiJAM** · 09-12-2003, 09:53 AM

Oscar wins but he is going to have to work hard for it. Mosely is desperate. A desperate fighter is a dangerous fighter. However I think Oscar will win by an 11th round TKO. I also think each fighter will taste the canvas. This has the makings of a classic. Get your VCR/DVD recorders ready this may be the fight of the year. This morning I read a really good article regarding Saturday’s fight by Max Kellerman of ESPN. Check it out if you can. http://msn.espn.go.com/boxing/column...x/1612871.html

Mike "the body snatcher" McCallum. Donald Curry did fade from memory pretty quickly...

ChiJAM

**Koffy Brown** · 09-12-2003, 09:57 AM

Been waiting on this fight...I'mma say Sugar Shane...fo' sho' although I think it's going to be a toughie...

**mhd** · 09-12-2003, 10:08 AM

oscar's trainer, Mayweather, will be the difference, this guy has the science

**Sharp Eye Washington** · 09-12-2003, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by mhd:
oscar's trainer, Mayweather, will be the difference, this guy has the science

Great Point!

**Sharp Eye Washington** · 09-12-2003, 10:27 AM

Mosely should have fired his dad after that 2nd Forrest fight. He still had no answer for Forrest. (Who appears to be a mediocre fighter thanks to Mayorga) Having to can your dad would have to be a tough call but business is business. As MHD pointed out the corner can be crucial especially in big fights. Angelo Dundee stayed in Ali's corner to the end because of how he handled the Henry Cooper knockdown (torn glove) & the Sonny Liston issue (sending blind Clay out to fight the Mike Tyson of his day) Very important & overlooked part of the sweet science, the corner.

**Tee Mallory** · 09-12-2003, 12:45 PM

If they were still at 147 I would pick Shane but I think Oscar wins definitely on points possibly by late-round KO cause he's proven himself to be more comfortable at 154 by knocking out Vargas with that hook and fighting decent tune-ups so he's ready. Having Mayweather in the corner this time also helps Oscar's situation considerably.

Shane to me didn't put in enough work at 154 to be a solid contender after the two losses to Forrest point blank.

Shane's speed was the deciding factor in the first fight but at 154 I doubt if he will have the same stamina to pull off the late-rounds rally he did in the first fight. Still the best matchup out there bar none.

TM

**Linedog** · 09-12-2003, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Tee Mallory:
If they were still at 147 I would pick Shane but I think Oscar wins definitely on points possibly by late-round KO cause he's proven himself to be more comfortable at 154 by knocking out Vargas with that hook and fighting decent tune-ups so he's ready. Having Mayweather in the corner this time also helps Oscar's situation considerably.

Shane to me didn't put in enough work at 154 to be a solid contender after the two losses to Forrest point blank.

Shane's speed was the deciding factor in the first fight but at 154 I doubt if he will have the same stamina to pull off the late-rounds rally he did in the first fight. Still the best matchup out there bar none.

TM

Your on point with this one. Also adding weight not only slows you down a bit because of increased mass. But your in with heavier hitters that can take a hit from a 147 pounder. Speed will be essential to a victory for Mosely. While DLH will have a grab bag of options. What The corner does will really determine who cinches the deal on this fight too.

I know, I have both fought and also trained fighters.

[ September 12, 2003, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: Linedog ]

**1SmoothDj** · 09-12-2003, 12:54 PM

I've gotta give it to DeLa Hoya. He's an exceptionally intelligent fighter not taking anything from Mosley. But after seeing Mosley in his last few fights and losing to Forrest gives Hoya the edge in my book. You can never be fooled by the matter of factly calm De La Hoya is known for...he is a beast underneath. I'd bet on this one although it should prove to be an excellent rematch!

Marv

**Tee Mallory** · 09-12-2003, 01:06 PM

I read somewhere that Oscar re-injured his left hand and took a cortisone shot for it. I think he might be trying to get into Shane's head a little bit.

TM

**Sharp Eye Washington** · 09-12-2003, 01:28 PM

When Shane loses tommorow night he will have to turn in his Sugar card". That is reserved for the greats. Anybody remember Sugar Ray Seales?

**Fletch** · 09-12-2003, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Phil Bernard:
When Shane loses tommorow night he will have to turn in his Sugar card". That is reserved for the greats. Anybody remember Sugar Ray Seales?

'72 Olympian. Too many fights left him legally blind. Didn't he pass away?

To add, when Howard Cosell turned around and advocated abolition of boxing, the plight of Sugar Ray Seales became Cosell's poster child.

[ September 12, 2003, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: einnod23 ]

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