First Time Homebuyers

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 07-30-2007, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Fletch

For all those folk who said to me, "The Bronx....too many gangsters", just to let you know that the "afford gates" are closing quick!

Man I just can't bring myself to live in a shitty neighborhood just so I can own something. Fuck that. I value peace and quiet and a drama free environment too much I guess.

**mhd** · 07-30-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

Man I just can't bring myself to live in a shitty neighborhood just so I can own something. Fuck that. I value peace and quiet and a drama free environment too much I guess.

lol, another unfortunate stereotype

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 07-30-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by mhd

lol, another unfortunate stereotype

Not really. When I was looking in Chicago for something in my price range(I don't have the luxury of dual income) they were all in neighborhoods that I wouldn't want to live in. Hell even in the neighborhood I grew up in(which admittedly is on the rise but fucked up right now) the property was on the high end of what I wanted to spend. I know Chicago well enough to know where I would and would not live.

**mhd** · 07-30-2007, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

Not really. When I was looking in Chicago for something in my price range(I don't have the luxury of dual income) they were all in neighborhoods that I wouldn't want to live in. Hell even in the neighborhood I grew up in(which admittedly is on the rise but fucked up right now) the property was on the high end of what I wanted to spend. I know Chicago well enough to know where I would and would not live.

it reads like you were calling the bronx a shitty neighborhood

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 07-30-2007, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by mhd

it reads like you were calling the bronx a shitty neighborhood

Didn't mean to. I know less than zero about the bronx.

**liL Ray** · 07-30-2007, 03:40 PM

this is why these convos need beers and face to face dialogue.

**Discogoddess** · 07-30-2007, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

...(I don't have the luxury of dual income)...

He said "luxury" and "dual income" in the same sentence...ha!

**mhd** · 07-30-2007, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

Didn't mean to. I know less than zero about the bronx.

lol, thats what i thought, to each his own, but the best way to change blocks, neighborhoods, communities, is to be a part of the change, to take risks, to lead. if we wait until the community 'comes up' then you will be paying a higher price, a premium for somebody else's vision, somebody else's foresight, jes sayin

**Fletch** · 07-30-2007, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

Man I just can't bring myself to live in a shitty neighborhood just so I can own something. Fuck that. I value peace and quiet and a drama free environment too much I guess.

You'd be surprised to know that what is percieved as shitty may actually be peaceful, quiet and drama-free! I'm learning that with mine and a few other Bronx neighborhoods!

**Chris Conrad** · 07-30-2007, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by mhd

lol, thats what i thought, to each his own, but the best way to change blocks, neighborhoods, communities, is to be a part of the change, to take risks, to lead. if we wait until the community 'comes up' then you will be paying a higher price, a premium for somebody else's vision, somebody else's foresight, jes sayin

'be the change you want to see'

**Fletch** · 07-30-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

Not really. When I was looking in Chicago for something in my price range(I don't have the luxury of dual income) they were all in neighborhoods that I wouldn't want to live in. Hell even in the neighborhood I grew up in(which admittedly is on the rise but fucked up right now) the property was on the high end of what I wanted to spend. I know Chicago well enough to know where I would and would not live.

Homebuyer's Number 1 rule.......BE OPEN!

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 07-30-2007, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Discogoddess

He said "luxury" and "dual income" in the same sentence...ha!

I've been in a dual income situation before and financially it was a luxury. Combined purchase power.

**Discogoddess** · 07-30-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

...Combined purchase power.

And, for many, that comes with double the living expenses and debt. That "two can live as cheaply as one" adage is bullshit, imho. But, I was really just being jokey re: my own experiences and observations.

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 07-30-2007, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Fletch

Homebuyer's Number 1 rule.......BE OPEN!

I wish I could be. Once I was looking at a condo on my boys block in south shore. In my price range, rehabbed and very nice. While I'm in the place I literally hear 4 motherfuckers come by shaking the building with their sound systems. I come outside get in my car and drive to the end of the block where a motherfucker is standing in the middle of the street taking a piss. I said fuck that and never thought about that spot again. Some shit I just can't do.

**liL Ray** · 07-30-2007, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Discogoddess

That "two can live as cheaply as one" adage is bullshit, imho. .

your opinion, but I ain't trading it in...not one bit! I'm hooked!

**Discogoddess** · 07-30-2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

...but I ain't trading it in...not one bit! I'm hooked!

Me too, but for reasons other than my bank balance.

**Fletch** · 07-30-2007, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

this is why these convos need beers and face to face dialogue.

Ray, etc.....FYI.....

Saw a two family house and garage on E. 32nd Street bet. Glenwood and H(the Junction)........$750,0000!!!!!!! My moms lives in the coop around the corner. Bought her unit 20 years ago! Now, I remember then, when them houses were going for $200,000. Now, with a Target Mall being built (Old parking lot on Flatbush and Ave H), them homes are now going off the chain!

Oh, yeah, taxes $2,000/yr!!!!!!!

**The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove** · 07-30-2007, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

your opinion, but I ain't trading it in...not one bit! I'm hooked!

It depends on income and mindset IMO. Can two people who make 100K a year each live off of 100K and make moves with the rest? Certainly they can.

**mhd** · 07-30-2007, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

I wish I could be. Once I was looking at a condo on my boys block in south shore. In my price range, rehabbed and very nice. While I'm in the place I literally hear 4 motherfuckers come by shaking the building with their sound systems. I come outside get in my car and drive to the end of the block where a motherfucker is standing in the middle of the street taking a piss. I said fuck that and never thought about that spot again. Some shit I just can't do.

so who wins?

**mhd** · 07-30-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Conrad

'be the change you want to see'

real simple

**liL Ray** · 07-30-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Fletch

Ray, etc.....FYI.....

Saw a two family house and garage on E. 32nd Street bet. Glenwood and H(the Junction)........$750,0000!!!!!!! My moms lives in the coop around the corner. Bought her unit 20 years ago! Now, I remember then, when them houses were going for $200,000. Now, with a Target Mall being built (Old parking lot on Flatbush and Ave H), them homes are now going off the chain!

Oh, yeah, taxes $2,000/yr!!!!!!!

nyc taxes are the best!!!!

yeah, I'm just holding on to mine and trying not to refi...in about 3-5years, I figure I should be taking a 250-300K profit then...see you in the Caribbean...

**Mr.I** · 07-30-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

I wish I could be. Once I was looking at a condo on my boys block in south shore. In my price range, rehabbed and very nice. While I'm in the place I literally hear 4 motherfuckers come by shaking the building with their sound systems. I come outside get in my car and drive to the end of the block where a motherfucker is standing in the middle of the street taking a piss. I said fuck that and never thought about that spot again. Some shit I just can't do.

Damn, not exactly "shangrila" huh

**House** · 07-30-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

I wish I could be. Once I was looking at a condo on my boys block in south shore. In my price range, rehabbed and very nice. While I'm in the place I literally hear 4 motherfuckers come by shaking the building with their sound systems. I come outside get in my car and drive to the end of the block where a motherfucker is standing in the middle of the street taking a piss. I said fuck that and never thought about that spot again. Some shit I just can't do.

I respect this point of view...and in many respects i share it (if the price is wrong)

I will note that many folk who we deride as gentrifying nabes dont seem to share this view - i call em pioneers - and they cash in big when the neighborhood changes

**Fletch** · 07-30-2007, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Huey P. Freeman

I wish I could be. Once I was looking at a condo on my boys block in south shore. In my price range, rehabbed and very nice. While I'm in the place I literally hear 4 motherfuckers come by shaking the building with their sound systems. I come outside get in my car and drive to the end of the block where a motherfucker is standing in the middle of the street taking a piss. I said fuck that and never thought about that spot again. Some shit I just can't do.

Huey,

Check my signature. There's a reason why I've had it for the past few months.