More black women consider 'dating out'

[PlymouthCt711S]

It's a sad thing when there is so much tension between the men and women of a race of people, especially when this race of people are still struggling to find themselves. I don't believe that most of the blacks that date and marry whites planned it, I believe that a lot of whites are aware of the tension between the black male and female and realize it's open season!

An interesting thing happened on my night job a week ago.

I have a white male manager that has a child by a black woman, and it's obvious that he likes black women a lot because he flirts with one out of every three black women that walks in the door. Well, his child's mother called the business about 30 times in an attempt to harass and embarrass him. Everybody that anwered the phone when she called got an ear-ful. "That deadbeat don't pay his child support"!! "I think he's cheap because he only wants to give me $30 a month"!!

I know this is somewhat off topic, but you hardly ever hear about the black woman and white man relationship issues. I don't think the grass is always greener on the other side.

I would like to say I'm happy for anybody that's found that special someone, in spite of what the ethnicity is.

Very Perceptive.

[PlymouthCt711S]

You have a point there, but this bit is a trifle alarming:


The problem with this article, as with many like it, is that it foregrounds race without foregrounding the other major thread: class. Black women "on campus" " blue collar men" - these are class references that the author includes but does not evaluate. The "marriageable black men" pool isn't some big wide open field if we factor in socioeconomic status, is it? Especially not if the only women the author is concerned with seem to be middle class and striving or higher on ye olde socioeconomic pyramid.

I wonder, also, how much of the author's "research" included making sure that military marriages were accounted for...I seem to know a great many African American men who went into the service and came home with European American wives.

What would constitute a more accurate portrayal? I'm a bit too lazy to start crunching numbers, but there's a need to clarify that data and refine those terms quite a bit!!!

The use of statistics in the U.S. regarding race is usually suspect.If your premise is incorrect,all conclusions arrived out of it are also incorrect.

[BrazenMuse]

The use of statistics in the U.S. regarding race is usually suspect.If your premise is incorrect,all conclusions arrived out of it are also incorrect.

agreed. And this, i think, is always true of using statistics...I get annoyed by people who don't sufficiently limit their terms. And i think that issues that are listed as "racial" often have a class element that no one in America seems to want to talk about...in fact, Americans tend to be brainwashed into not talking about them...

[TAC]

agreed. And this, i think, is always true of using statistics...I get annoyed by people who don't sufficiently limit their terms. And i think that issues that are listed as "racial" often have a class element that no one in America seems to want to talk about...in fact, Americans tend to be brainwashed into not talking about them...

Reading a great book called "Class". It discusses the very aspects of America's struggle to come to terms with the very concept.

[Bill Blake]

Class is a far more blinding stigma than race. It’s the doop that Americans are to believe the contrary. This is not to say that race cannot affect class distinction, but don’t the donkey buck.

[TAC]

Class is a far more blinding stigma than race. It’s the doop that Americans are to believe the contrary. This is not to say that race cannot effect class distinction, but don’t the donkey buck.

What are you saying man?

[Bill Blake]

What are you saying man?

That Karl Marx is a better visionary for brack folks than Jessie Jackson.

[Friday]

That Karl Marx is a better visionary for brack folks than Jessie Jackson.

i think my dad would agree.

[TAC]

That Karl Marx is a better visionary for brack folks than Jessie Jackson.

That experiment failed. Didn't take into account the term "motivation".

[Moksha]

That experiment failed. Didn't take into account the term "motivation".

It didn't fail. His theories have impacted numerous facets of our current lives.

[TAC]

It didn't fail. His theories have impacted numerous facets of our current lives.

You have got to be kidding me.

[Armento]

You have got to be kidding me.

See any union. Including the popo union, the congressman union.. you know.. people in charge who are allowed to have socialistic subsystems work for THEM.

[Moksha]

You have got to be kidding me.

Your reading of Marxist theory must be very narrow to not understand its influence.

[TAC]

Your reading of Marxist theory must be very narrow to not understand its influence.

Don't give a f*ck about Karl Marx. He's dead. Didn't pass the ultimate test now, did he?

[Bill Blake]

You have got to be kidding me.

The notion that the communist governments of the Eastern block were experiments in Marxism is absurd.

There are aspects of Marx’s economic theory like labor value that were incorrect, but to be fair there were flaws with Smith’s as well.

But his understanding of impact of class distinction and the real need for workers to have bargaining power with owners of capital and their need to be checked is as real and as vital insightful as ever.

[Bill Blake]

Don't give a f*ck about Karl Marx. He's dead. Didn't pass the ultimate test now, did he?

Dude, Marx and Freud have probably had the most philosophical impact on the world in the last 150 years more so than anything else out there.

[BrazenMuse]

Dude, Marx and Freud have probably had the most philosophical impact on the world in the last 150 years more so than anything else out there.

luckily, they've been re-read, re-thought and revised since then too.

[TAC]

The notion that the communist governments of the Eastern block were experiments in Marxism is absurd.

Here come the intellectual theorist. My statement was an euphemism.

At the end of the day, when the Eastern block collapse and the curtain was pulled back, what did everyone discover? YUP, same old human greed. What's more, what was one of the fundamentals that they discovered. Yup, without an incentive or the motivation for a person to work harder or better, the goods and services suffered.

There are aspects of Marx’s economic theory like labor value that were incorrect, but to be fair there were flaws with Smith’s as well.

But his understanding of impact of class distinction and the real need for workers to have bargaining power with owners of capital and their need to be checked is as real and as vital insightful as ever.

SUKKAS I think you could call it. Yea you the masses work for x, while I look after the money for you because I'm better suited to run things than you are. What a dupe.... You can theorize all you want, but that about summed up what happened in to the Eastern block, regardless of all the collective bargaining power that you believed the people had.

I don't need to sit here with my head buried in books to get a grasp of this very notion.

[TAC]

Dude, Marx and Freud have probably had the most philosophical impact on the world in the last 150 years more so than anything else out there.

Don't care about Marx and/or Freud. Tell that to the people who eat their can of beans every night while philosophising over how many angles can fit on a pin head.

Einstien may beg to differ about who had the most influence over the last 150 yrs.... but what do I know....

[panklady]

LOL @ Bray

"Shahrazad Ali"-->the open hand slap queen (circa Donahue)

[Moksha]

Here come the intellectual theorist. My statement was an euphemism.

At the end of the day, when the Eastern block collapse and the curtain was pulled back, what did everyone discover? YUP, same old human greed. What's more, what was one of the fundamentals that they discovered. Yup, without an incentive or the motivation for a person to work harder or better, the goods and services suffered.





SUKKAS I think you could call it. Yea you the masses work for x, while I look after the money for you because I'm better suited to run things than you are. What a dupe.... You can theorize all you want, but that about summed up what happened in to the Eastern block, regardless of all the collective bargaining power that you believed the people had.

I don't need to sit here with my head buried in books to get a grasp of this very notion.

A "euphemism"?!?!? Huh?

You obviously missed Bill's point about Marx being a better patron saint. And your above diatribe basically proves that you've never cracked open a copy of Das Kapital.

[Bill Blake]

Don't care about Marx and/or Freud. Tell that to the people who eat their can of beans every night while philosophising over how many angles can fit on a pin head.

Einstien may beg to differ about who had the most influence over the last 150 yrs.... but what do I know....

For the both of your responses, don't let the point hit you along with the door on the way out....geeze.

Yes even more than Einstien dummy.

[TAC]

A "euphemism"?!?!? Huh?

You obviously missed Bill's point about Marx being a better patron saint. And your above diatribe basically proves that you've never cracked open a copy of Das Kapital.

See but that's the point, while you spend your time refiling through that garbage which I read back in the 10th grade during a time period while you probably couldn't even figure out where you balls where, I've moved on to other things that are more relevant in MY life. As a result, I simply don't give a sh*t about all that. So what is it that you can't grasp about this?

At the end of day, you'll find a bunch of people sitting around discussing all this bullsh*t about economic theory, meanwhile you check how their living and they go home (if they even have one) to squalor and a cup of soup. Feel me?

[TAC]

For the both of your responses, don't let the point hit you along with the door on the way out....geeze.

Yes even more than Einstien dummy.

Yo Brack man, don't let me have to nuke your a** with some more Irish jokes!!!

[Moksha]

I've moved on to other things that are more relevant in MY life. As a result, I simply don't give a sh*t about all that. So what is it that you can't grasp about this?

Then why are you posting about it, then?

Or is this another ""euphemism"?