TAC on Student Loans and Investing in Self

[BrazenMuse]

and, in a perfect world, that would be wonderful. Even in the best homes and the best schools, children slip through. In the world we have, our expectations and our resources are not complex enough to match the complexity of the world we live in.

[MEP]

and, in a perfect world, that would be wonderful. Even in the best homes and the best schools, children slip through. In the world we have, our expectations and our resources are not complex enough to match the complexity of the world we live in.

Actually, it is wonderful, in an imperfect world...If available kids will ACTUALLY gravitate to adults who set high expectations for them.

This advice goes to everyone...be very cautious of the "non-verbal" messages you send to kids...don't be "Oh Johnny you can __________ (insert expectation here)" then on the back end be thinking "well, in a perfect world..." Kids are very intuitive beings...they got high powered bullshit detectors.

This is not just directed at you Brazen, trust...I follow this advice everyday. The day I set some low expectation for a kid is the day I'll quit my practice.

[Doug]

Actually, it is wonderful, in an imperfect world...If available kids will ACTUALLY gravitate to adults who set high expectations for them.

This advice goes to everyone...be very cautious of the "non-verbal" messages you send to kids...don't be "Oh Johnny you can __________ (insert expectation here)" then on the back end be thinking "well, in a perfect world..." Kids are very intuitive beings...they got high powered bullshit detectors.

This is not just directed at you Brazen, trust...I follow this advice everyday. The day I set some low expectation for a kid is the day I'll quit my practice.

Thank you.

[DaveR]

The FIRST time I flunked out of undergrad in 1985, I was coddled by University "advisors" who empathized with my situation and hardships (along with the slew of other minorities on their way out with sub 2.0 GPAs), and gave all kinds of self-assuring-bullshit feedback like:

-- The transition from HS to College is not for everyone Dave, we understand
-- Well, if you're not succeeding, perhaps college isn't for you - it's not for everyone you know, we understand

I agreed, with the above ... and merrily left, with my ego in check

__________________________________________________ ___________

The SECOND time I flunked out of undergrad in 1988, I was met with some harsh comments by my academic advisor David G. Carter who said, after listening to my excuses and reasons:

-- "Dave, you probably see people that are smarter than you, and dumber than you, that are graduating, and wonder why they are, and you're here flunking out again ... ... The only difference between them and you, is that they get their shit done, and you don't

__________________________________________________ ___________

The THIRD tour of duty yielded a 4.0 in my last 2 full years, sans excuses ... always remembering that swift verbal ass kicking above, by someone that didn't buy my bullshit (and gave a shit)

I hope that helps whoever is reading

[DJ Loka]

The FIRST time I flunked out of undergrad in 1985, I was coddled by University "advisors" who empathized with my situation and hardships (along with the slew of other minorities on their way out with sub 2.0 GPAs), and gave all kinds of self-assuring-bullshit feedback like:

-- The transition from HS to College is not for everyone Dave, we understand
-- Well, if you're not succeeding, perhaps college isn't for you - it's not for everyone you know, we understand

I agreed, with the above ... and merrily left, with my ego in check

__________________________________________________ ___________

The SECOND time I flunked out of undergrad in 1988, I was met with some harsh comments by my academic advisor David G. Carter who said, after listening to my excuses and reasons:

-- "Dave, you probably see people that are smarter than you, and dumber than you, that are graduating, and wonder why they are, and you're here flunking out again ... ... The only difference between them and you, is that they get their shit done, and you don't

__________________________________________________ ___________

The THIRD tour of duty yielded a 4.0 in my last 2 full years, sans excuses ... always remembering that swift verbal ass kicking above, by someone that didn't buy my bullshit (and gave a shit)

I hope that helps whoever is reading

awesome story!

i was talking to one of my clients about all this tonight, she sold her company to a large internet/tech company and she now runs her company under their larger umbrella....she's in her 50's, originally from jamaica ...i asked her how she handled her education....

she took her student loan money and bought STOCKS, then paid for school with profits from her investments and had her loans paid off within 2 years.

thats some wheeling & dealing right there.

[DaveR]

awesome story!

i was talking to one of my clients about all this tonight, she sold her company to a large internet/tech company and she now runs her company under their larger umbrella....she's in her 50's, originally from jamaica ...i asked her how she handled her education....

she took her student loan money and bought STOCKS, then paid for school with profits from her investments and had her loans paid off within 2 years.

thats some wheeling & dealing right there.

Thanks

And at your client ... but ya know high-risk, high reward

Funniest/riskiest things I ever did for school was (that's right, I'm saying 'em PWW - b/c the Statute of Limitations has expired AND I made good on them both)

1) When I returned to undergrad full-time, I was broke as hell -- I quit my f/t job & because my parents made me pay $250/mo (probably the equivalent to $600-750/mo these days) to live in their house ('cause they were hella pissed I wasn't in school) -- I wrote 'questionable' checks at the start of each semester, for any amount I didn't have for tuition and books, and would pay off the tuition with DJing money when the Piper came calling a couple of months later

2) Studying for final exams (that were the next morning) WHILE DJing at 4am afterhours... Shit, I shoulda been sleeping, but hell if I didn't need the money ... MFers rolling into the DJ booth saying "What the hell are you doing?" ...

[BrazenMuse]

Actually, it is wonderful, in an imperfect world...If available kids will ACTUALLY gravitate to adults who set high expectations for them.

This advice goes to everyone...be very cautious of the "non-verbal" messages you send to kids...don't be "Oh Johnny you can __________ (insert expectation here)" then on the back end be thinking "well, in a perfect world..." Kids are very intuitive beings...they got high powered bullshit detectors.

This is not just directed at you Brazen, trust...I follow this advice everyday. The day I set some low expectation for a kid is the day I'll quit my practice.

as do I darlin', as do I...and if nothing else, they walk out more aware that there are all sorts of possibilities out there...

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

I'm glad i waited till later in life to get serious about education.When i went at 18 i dont think i was serious about it at all.I didnt have good time management skills which is essential in college.You have to balance work,with school and studytime.Its not going to be easy and i have already set myself up for this.But there is nothing to it but to just go ahead and do it!Four years will go by so fast.