Dj's......Important or not?

[Friday]

Originally posted by AshakiMzuri:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by XL:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AshakiMzuri:
I can't remember jack...

In the beginning there was Jack..... </font>[/QUOTE]he didn't leave a good impression... </font>[/QUOTE]Bwahahahaha! [img]icon_rofl.gif[/img]

[Jolyon]

John Hall [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Music is for sharing...

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
John Hall [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Music is for sharing...

If I may, I would like to second that emotion

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d

[Friday]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
John Hall [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Music is for sharing...

If I may, I would like to second that emotion

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d </font>[/QUOTE]Three times a lady......... ;) Most agreed. [img]graemlins/cheering.gif[/img]

[Friday]

Thank you guys for the replies. I am a lot more conscious now as I step a little more further into the forum. You guys gave me a lot of food for thought and much to chew on...very fruity I must add. [img]graemlins/grinyes.gif[/img]

[BigPoppa]

The BIGGEST difference I see between DJs from the old days and from today....the senior crew had no problems sharing the information about music. But we have all seen some who would prefer to slap a white label over a record just to hide its identity. Sad. Much [img]graemlins/respekt.gif[/img] to those who share.

[Querck]

what's up gf!

Don't force yourself to do anything that comes unnaturally--so if you don't feel like memorizing titles and names, don't do it, cause the only important part is the music. However, when you really catch the fever of shopping for records, this kind of knowledge will save you immense amounts of time.

When I look for records, I always look for labels and producers that I trust--those that fit into my taste, and if I have some extra time I will dive into uncharted territory--a very good thing to do from time to time.

peace.

[Kenrick _]

i am the same way as you gf, as i am not knowlegeable about the "who's ans whens." however, the more and more i read this board the more and more i make a concious choice to read labels and such. this is kind of funny though, cause i will read the credits on an older release and be like "damn he worked on that too? he's been around for a while," or something silly like that.

all in all i don't force myself to delve into reading credits all the time but i am developing the habit.

i would also like to add that the more and more you play out the more and more you will start remembering the details and almost naturally start memorizing the credits.

good luck to you...

me

[Soleful]

Great post, GF. When I first started reading some the posts here, I felt as if I didn't know ISH. When heads would start droppin their knowledge not only about versions, artist, producers, but also about catalog numbers Yeah I realized how deep heads really are in here. And a previously said, with time all that will become a part of your lingo also. Patience and dedication as you've always displayed in here will pay off in good time. Good luck!!!

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gf,

I never remember titles either, but when an artist/dj has at least two or three quality tunes then I definitely keep them in mind. However, there are some that are just one hit wonders and the rest of their productions IMO are just so-so. Just buy what you feel and if you like it then that's really all that matters. If you feel it and you play it with passion then you'll shine. But no, I don't think it makes anyone a better DJ because they can remember names. Just my too sense. [img]graemlins/cool_shades.gif[/img]

[Friday]

I am on point with all you guys points of view, I am glad I posted this [img]graemlins/respekt.gif[/img] to each and all of you.

THANKS [img]hail.gif[/img]

[AK]

gf, I tend to remember details, but as others have said it's really not that important. I would look at it two ways--as a "DJ" and as a purchaser/consumer of music.

As a DJ, you need to know your records well and be able to remember them, find them, etc. But that could be based on the label, the color of the sleeve, the way you index them at home, or the way you pack your bag to play out (and you will!). Just find a means of recognition/identification that works for you. It sure doesn't have to be remembering the names of all the artists and titles.

As a consumer, however, it helps to learn the details of at least the stuff you really like. After a while (as you probably have already), you start to get a feel for certain artists, producers, remixers, labels, etc. that make the kinda stuff you like. It helps you become a better, more efficient shopper...which I suppose in turn helps make you a better DJ.

On a personal note, it's so exciting to see anyone new--especially a lady--beginning to climb that DJ mountain with interest, passion, dedication and the innocence to ask such appropriate and relevant questions in a forum such as this. You do yo thang, girl. We're all behind you. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[dennis f]

Originally posted by gf:
Been listening to "house music" for the last 16 years, never cared who made the song, sung it, produced etc etc....

GF this is not at all geared towards you so please don't feel insulted. In actuality i'm just using your statement to enforce a thought.

I don't know I may be crazy but can any of you guys see what's wrong with our genre from this one statement? Mind you this is the general consensus from average joe/jill. Any thoughts?


laters

[Friday]

Originally posted by dennis f:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by gf:
Been listening to "house music" for the last 16 years, never cared who made the song, sung it, produced etc etc....

GF this is not at all geared towards you so please don't feel insulted. In actuality i'm just using your statement to enforce a thought.

I don't know I may be crazy but can any of you guys see what's wrong with our genre from this one statement? Mind you this is the general consensus from average joe/jill. Any thoughts?


laters </font>[/QUOTE]Dennis, no offence taken at all [img]smile.gif[/img] because I too can see the implications with that one statement as it is geared to this genre of music which maybe the reason of it's decline. To my defence back in the late 80's I was drunk as sin, but that is a whole other story [img]biggrinangel.gif[/img] ;)

I think for myself it has become a bad habit, due to the fact that I never bothered to find out many of the song titles and names of producers. I was on the dance floor having a good time and did not see the point because I had a lot of Dj's as friends and they took that stuff serious.

After reading many of the posts here and especialy John Hall's post, it has made me think a lot.

Now, becoming more inclusive with the average joe/jill's.......YES! this is thier thoughts. The lack of radio, video, magazine & DJ support has created an almost vacumn for this genre of music. There needs to be more support in getting this music out there!!!

It sounds so simplistic to put such a statement up there, but it was the truth, however, there is so much importance in that one statement which was why I was questioning myself and then brought it to the board.

My tune has changed, but what about the average joe/jill's out there? :( Something more to chew on.

[Friday]

Originally posted by AK:
On a personal note, it's so exciting to see anyone new--especially a lady--beginning to climb that DJ mountain with interest, passion, dedication and the innocence to ask such appropriate and relevant questions in a forum such as this. You do yo thang, girl. We're all behind you. [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QB]

Thank you AK so much, that just made my day.
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[%seRge%]

I have found that organizing records alphabetically helps keep the info fresh in my mind. Some very important points have been raised. I agree with what Dysko said about remembering the emotion that each record invokes is what is really important.

just my 2 cents

peace gf

[ August 30, 2003, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: %seRge% ]

[AK]

Originally posted by gf:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AK:
On a personal note, it's so exciting to see anyone new--especially a lady--beginning to climb that DJ mountain with interest, passion, dedication and the innocence to ask such appropriate and relevant questions in a forum such as this. You do yo thang, girl. We're all behind you. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thank you AK so much, that just made my day.
[img]graemlins/cheering.gif[/img] [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]

[BigPoppa]

Originally posted by %seRge%:
I have found that organizing records alphabetically helps keep the info fresh in my mind. Some very important points have been raised. I agree with what Dysko said about remembering the emotion that each record invokes is what is really important.

just my 2 cents

peace gf

HEAR HEAR!!!! I have always arraigned my library this way too, mainly so I don't fall into a BPM trap.

[JMNYC]

Another great DHP thread!

I agree with Mr. John Hall as well, that it is very important because as DJs our job is very much about selling music, whether we like it or not. If the record doesn't sell, the artist might not be able to make another, and then who's screwed? The people on our dancefloor, the label, us, the entire club community.

GF, I also agree with %Serge% as far as organization is concerned- it helps a lot if you start cataloging your records early on.

Also, if you ALWAYS record your sets and ALWAYS write a playlist ... the old rule of using multiple senses - seeing, writing, saying, hearing - really helps you remember which record is whom and what label, etc. etc. etc.

[Hk]

Not really important if you plan on
blistering your own road. Retaining
information is critical, but mostly
for conversation sakes (information).

What's important is your musical
platform, the quality of your music.
I guess it depends on what you want
to achieve.

Loads of work for me to do and considering
the ways things have been going, I am
taking a minimal approach to the matter.
Playing what sounds good and working
on establishing a sounder platform where
my other no so known pieces can be digested.
Working on the technical end too....

[Nege]

Originally posted by dennis f:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by gf:
Been listening to "house music" for the last 16 years, never cared who made the song, sung it, produced etc etc....

GF this is not at all geared towards you so please don't feel insulted. In actuality i'm just using your statement to enforce a thought.

I don't know I may be crazy but can any of you guys see what's wrong with our genre from this one statement? Mind you this is the general consensus from average joe/jill. Any thoughts?


laters </font>[/QUOTE]The average Jill/Joe that does not care about who the artist,producer or label is a problem .
means that in most peoples eyes(outside of our genre),the music has no identity,
hence our low level in the industry's chain.
DJ's playing songs and discarding them in a week or two as well as keeping them a secret from those who want to know what they are playing is also a problem .
this promotes our genres slow death.
death of an artist that won't get exposed and death of a producer that won't get exposed in order to find more work.
and death of a stlye of music that future generation won't care about because to them it doesn't exist.
I sound like broken record but I'll keep saying it no matter how many times it annoys people that can't handle the truth.

My 2 cents canadian.

[blackwax]

Originally posted by gf:
I am on point with all you guys points of view, I am glad I posted this [img]graemlins/respekt.gif[/img] to each and all of you.

THANKS [img]hail.gif[/img]

I think you will be suprised at just how much knowledge you have stored in your mind without knowing it!!
Sometimes it just a recall problem you will have knowledge just from buying/playing tunes for so long it will just take something to help you recall it.
I have a friend into soul and he can recall an imense amount of info on a record instantly some can some can't but it dom't mean you don't know just can't remmember

I hope this makes sense