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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    BET's, 'American Gangster', Will start its 3rd year of documentaries on more than a few legends of the streets(From New York to California), Ving Rhames will be back as narrator of the American Gangster documentary series, The

    Season premiere is scheduled for, Thursday,October 23rd at 10:00/PM, Here's some More information on the cats who will be depicted on the BET American gangster documentary series in 2008, On the low, In regards to Guy Fisher

    (Legendary Drug king-Pin from The Bronx), Guy Fisher comes from the same Projects in the Bronx(Patterson Projects), As Tiny Archibald(Legendary NBA Hall of Famer),Van Silk(Hiphop Historian/Promoter,Pioneer),Iran Barkley(Former

    WBC Middleweight Champion during the 90's), Hopefully, BET American Gangster series will have an documentary on my man Eddie Lee/Rip, From around the way(Southside,Jamaica,Queens), One day.
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    BET's Critically Acclaimed Series 'AMERICAN GANGSTER' Returns for a Bold Third Season

    Narrated by Ving Rhames, the New Season Follows the "BET HIP HOP AWARDS" Thursday, October 23 at 10:00 P.M.*

    NEW YORK, Oct. 8 -- Provocative. Unflinching. Daring. BET's critically acclaimed docu-drama AMERICAN GANGSTER returns for another compelling season Thursday, October 23 at 10:00 p.m.* Gangsters have been traditionally portrayed in films and television as European; AMERICAN GANGSTER expands this theory by focusing on authentic, bona fide criminals and sheds a different kind of light on the minds of America's worst offenders. Narrated by Ving Rhames, this season returns to probe the lives and crimes of America's most dangerous criminals, including "Monster" Kody, Larry Davis, Mutulu Shakur and J. Edgar Hoover and COINTELPRO, among countless others.

    The first two seasons of AMERICAN GANGSTER spanned a wide range of subjects, telling stories from Harlem to Watts and points in between. They've included close-up views of the Chambers Brothers, drug-dealing emigrants from one of the America's poorest rural counties; Stanley "Tookie" Williams, who was executed for murder in California amid controversy regarding his real role in the founding of America's most notorious street gang, the Crips; Frank Lucas, the larger-than-life subject of the Hollywood blockbuster motion picture, also titled 'American Gangster'; and "Freeway" Ricky Ross -- L.A.'s homegrown crack king -- a hustler and pawn within a complex international enterprise.

    Since its debut in 2006, BET's groundbreaking documentary series AMERICAN GANGSTER has earned a mix of critical praise and popular acclaim.

    "American Gangster" is sober, intelligent and appropriately judgmental." -New York Newsday

    "Breaking away from its reputation as a home for music videos and little else, BET makes a savvy push into more challenging territory with this documentary series, which examines the lives and legends surrounding such notorious figures as Stanley "Tookie" Williams and "Freeway Ricky" Ross." -Variety

    "The stories are compelling, and feel more like news than history." -New York Daily News Now in its third season, this series reflects the life and times of American criminals, how their actions have affected the public at large, and the Black community in particular.

    This season, AMERICAN GANGSTER will profile:

    -- LARRY DAVIS / October 23, 2008

    Born and raised in the South Bronx, Larry Davis made headlines when he wounded six NYC police officers in a dramatic 1986 shootout after officers raided his sister's Bronx apartment to arrest him for murdering five drug dealers. Davis escaped, and with the help of family and friends, eluded capture for 17 days despite a massive manhunt, which finally ended with him surrendering to police only when assured by the presence of local reporters that he would not be harmed. In the subsequent trial, the prosecution contended Davis was a drug dealer who specialized in armed robbery and homicides. The defense team, led by renowned attorney William Kunstler, contended that Davis had been recruited into dealing drugs by crooked cops and the real object of the raid was to silence him by murder. When an all-minority jury acquitted Davis for acting in self-defense, 1500 police officers publicly protested against the verdict. Several subsequent trials resulted in several more acquittals on murder charges, until 1989 when Davis and his brother were convicted for the killing of drug dealer Raymond Vizcaino. After nearly 20 years in prison, and just a few days after agreeing to an exclusive interview with AMERICAN GANGSTER, Davis was murdered by a fellow convict.

    -- "MONSTER" KODY / October 30, 2008

    Few gangsters emblemize the tragedy of gang life and the failed promise of so many who follow the path than "Monster" Kody Scott, best-selling author and career criminal. A legend in south central Los Angeles for his fearsome devotion to gang violence, Scott became a subject of mainstream fascination after the 1992 riots in LA cast a national spotlight on the conditions that led to that uprising. The publication of his gang memoir Monster written while in prison was once a frightening journey through his past and a tantalizing harbinger of his possible redemption.

    -- MIDGET MOLLEY / TBD

    The son of a minister, this former drug lord of Atlantic City was once said to have earned over a million dollars a month, a position he flaunted in public by literally wearing a gold crown on his head. Busted in 1989, he spent nearly 20 years in prison, during which time his oldest son was killed on the streets. Deeply chastened by that experience, Molley renounced his former trade, and now toils as a high-profile advocate for the rights of fellow Muslims in prisons, whom he believes are routinely oppressed for their beliefs in the wake of 9/11.

    -- CORNELL JONES / TBD

    D.C. drug kingpin Rayful Edmond's predecessor, Cornell Jones was a native son who quietly plied his trade in the shadow of the Capitol, and ultimately developed a network that funneled drugs throughout the major cities of the Eastern seaboard and even throughout Europe. Jones claims "credit" for the accidental invention of an aphrodisiacal mix of pot and PCP that was loosely known on the street as "love boat," and turned D.C. into a Mecca for "angel dust." For years Jones stayed under the radar of law enforcement by developing a business model that emphasized harmony over violence, while keeping a low personal profile and funneling his own profits into legitimate businesses. He did it so well that his arrest and incarceration in 1985 created a huge vacuum in the D.C. drug trade, leading to unprecedented murder rates. Since Jones' release from prison, he runs a non-profit organization to help inmates prepare for life after prison.

    -- J. EDGAR HOOVER & COINTELPRO / TBD

    The first and most famous director of the FBI consolidated his power through a combination of brilliant public relations moves and compromising personal files he kept on politicians who held his fate in their hands. Positioned as an avowed and implacable enemy of Communism, Hoover was often at odds with left-leaning Black leaders throughout his reign, including Marcus Garvey and Paul Robeson. During the tumultuous '60s decade, Hoover went further, undertaking a virtual counter-revolution against the civil rights movement -- with particular venom directed at Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -- and ultimately enabling the Bureau to employ blackmail, smear campaigns, "dirty tricks," and even armed attacks on several leaders. The most notorious bureau program was the Counter Intelligence Program, or COINTELPRO, which was formed to investigate and undermine "subversive" organizations that were almost invariably aligned with the movement for civil rights. More than a decade later, U.S. congressional investigations would detail the scope of COINTELPRO's actions, which implicated the bureau in the framing and even murder of several prominent activists.

    -- MUTULU SHAKUR / TBD

    Mutulu Shakur, Tupac Shakur's step-father and the father of rapper Mopreme, has spent the past quarter century in federal prison, thanks in part to his conviction for helping to plan and execute the $1.6 million robbery of a Brinks armored truck in New York in 1982 that left three people dead. In addition to the robbery, Mutulu was later accused of helping his sister Assata Shakur escape from prison, enabling her to flee to Cuba where she lives today. Despite incarceration in federal prison, Shakur has retained strong ties to contemporary politics and culture, and teamed with his late son Tupac to write a "thug life handbook," with a message against violence and drugs.

    -- GUY FISHER / TBD

    The first Black owner of the Apollo Theater in Harlem was a dashing ladies' man, sports fan, bon vivant -- and drug lord. Growing up in the rough and tumble Patterson projects of the South Bronx, Fisher became the youngest and most flamboyant member of "the council," a consortium of top drug dealers in Harlem in the 1970s headed by Nicky Barnes. Both friends and foes paid tribute to Fisher's sharp intelligence and organizational skills, which kept "the council" going long after Barnes' own conviction and life sentence for trafficking in 1977. In the early '80s, Barnes turned state's witness against his former allies, claiming he was motivated by Fisher's romantic alliance with his favorite mistress. Convicted for trafficking and sent to prison for life, Fisher embarked on a remarkable transformation, writing novels, counseling inmates to avoid a criminal life, and earning several academic degrees, including a doctorate in sociology -- all the while keeping his own counsel from mainstream media. Now for the first time, Fisher, his family members, friends and associates tell their side of the story to AMERICAN GANGSTER.

    -- THE SHOWER POSSE / TBD

    An incredibly violent gang with operations in the 1980s that stretched from Jamaica to New York to Miami and beyond, the Shower Posse got their name thanks to their frequent skewering of victims with rounds of automatic weapons fire. From their beginnings in the ghettos of Kingston Jamaica, the Shower Posse and their main posse rivals, the Spanglers, came to prominence as the muscle behind Jamaica's two political parties. Their ongoing battle culminated in the bloody election campaign of 1980, which resulted in an influx of arms to the island and the election of Shower-backed candidate Edward Seaga. The Shower Posse's acknowledged leader during this era, Vivian Blake, helps AMERICAN GANGSTER tell the story of their rise and fall.

    -- WILLIE LLOYD / TBD

    Willie Lloyd grew up in Lawndale, Chicago; he came to prominence in the late '60s and was known for his ruthless demeanor and willingness to back it up. He was sent to prison in 1971 for the murder of an Iowa police officer, where his influence grew enormously. He was ordained the Lords 'official spokesperson' and eventually grew to become its 'king of kings' over the several vice-lords divisions. After his release from prison in the early '90s, Lloyd took over operations on the streets again -- until he went back to prison again on weapons charges. In jail, he experienced an epiphany about gang life and its consequences. Released in 2001, he publicly retired from the gang he'd led for decades and embarked on a crusade to turn kids away from the life -- forming an organization called "the cease fire project" and even lecturing at prestigious universities like DePaul. In 2003, Lloyd was shot on the street by gang members unhappy with his turnabout, an assassination attempt that has left him paralyzed from the neck down. Undeterred, he remains an articulate spokesman for "cease-fire" and related anti-gang efforts.

    -- THE ROMPER ROOM GANG / TBD

    The Romper Room Gang was a group of notorious home grown bank robbers from the troubled Bay Area suburb of Vallejo. They robbed dozens of banks in the mid '90s, and had a healthy following, including rapper Mac Dre -- himself convicted of conspiracy to rob. After serving his time, Dre emerged as a major underground figure in the Bay Area hip-hop scene and nurtured the careers of several other Romper Room robbers-turned-rappers as well. Mac and his cohorts also developed a big following in Kansas City -- where, tragically, he was murdered after a concert in 2004, allegedly by a Kansas City rapper he worked with named "Fat Tone" Watkins. This incident resulted in a revenge killing of Fat Tone in Las Vegas. Since his death, Mac Dre has become an icon in the Bay area, and especially in Vallejo, where violent crime remains out of proportion to its size and locale, and recently made headlines as the first city in California history to declare bankruptcy. Dre's legacy is carried on there by former friends and partners in crime who are now blazing new paths as artists and businessmen, though still shadowed by their pasts.

    ABOUT AMERICAN GANGSTER

    Executive produced by Nelson George and Frank Sinton (A. Smith & Co.), along with Mark Rowland and BET, AMERICAN GANGSTER profiles an infamous crime figure each week through the use of witness accounts, courtroom documents, archival footage, photographs and interviews with people familiar with the various cases. Featured experts include ex-members of these polarizing criminals' organizations, police officials from the time period, attorneys that represented the criminals and crime historians.

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    Hi Mike Barnes;

    I have a friend who has been working on some documentaries as well by the name of Anthony Gonzalez...if you like you can check out his sites..I'm sure he would love to hear alot of what you have to say on street gang's history..thanks always for dropping some knowledge..

    Www.anthonygonzalezfilm.com

    Www.franklucasamericangangster.com
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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, Good lookin in regards to your very kind words(Much respect to you and yours too), Lady, I'm very sure your man(Friend/LOL),Anthoney Gonzalez, Had a very enlightning and mad informative interview with Frank Lucas/LOL, Lady, Frank Lucas's younger brother, Larry Lucas, Used to rest in St.Albans,Queens(On Jordan ave, Off of Farmer's Blvd), During the 70's

    (LL's/LL Cool J's grandmother lived a few blocks away on Illion ave, From where Larry Lucas, Used to rest in St.Albans,Queens during the 70's), Infact, Larry Lucas's daughter, Was kidnapped from Cardoza Highschool during the late 70's(Around 1977/78), By Cats, Un-known(Well, I'm very sure Frank and

    Larry Lucas, Knew who kidnapped Larry Lucas's Daughter), Well, The cats who kidnapped Larry Lucas's daughter, Also kidnapped Larry Lucas's daughter's friend(Who's name i cannot remember right about now), Well, By

    This time when Larry Lucas's daughter and friend, Were kidnapped outside of Cardoza highschool in Bayside,Queens, In 1977/78, Frank Lucas was upnorth on Drug Trafficking charges,Murder,Conspiracy,Etc, But, Frank Lucas's

    Brothers(The Country Boys), Were still running the yard(Frank Lucas Drug operation/LOL), The cats who kidnapped Larry Lucas's daughter, Killed the friend of Larry Lucas's daughter, While, Larry Lucas's daughter, Escaped un-harmed(After a few weeks), Lady, I used to see Frank Lucas at AJ Lester's(Well-known Clothing store in Harlem on 125thst during the 60's,70's,80's),

    Frank Lucas also owned a spot in Queens, That, Cats have stated, That, Frank Lucas ordered the execution of Nicky Barnes(Though, Frank Lucas denied this during an Interview with Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes, In 2007,

    Lady, There's another cat from New York ,Who was a legend, In regards to movin weight during the 60's/early 70s',s That cats name is Frank Matthews from Brooklyn, Lady, I see Anthoney Gonzalez is putting together a documentary on Frank Matthews(Titled:Black Caesar:The Rise and

    Disappearance of Frank Matthews), Well, Frank Lucas used to rest in Staten Island(Totten Hill, Which was a very affulent spot during the 60's,70',s,80's,), Infact, Paul Castallano(Former Mafia Boss during the early to mid 80's In New York), Used to rest on Totten Hill during the 70's/80's, Before Paul

    Castallano caught 8 in the neck(Shot up/LOL), In Decmeber of 1985 at that Steak House on 45thst and 3rd ave(I cannot remember the name of the steak House, Right about now/LOL), Lady, Here's some more information on Frank Matthews in regards to the DVD, Anthoney Gonzalez and Ron

    Chepesiuk, Are putting together, Also, There's another Legendary cat from Brooklyn, Who used to move weight, During the 60's,70's, By the name of Rufus(Brooklyn Heavy),Board, Who was mad large in Brooklyn, During the late 60's/70's,(Along with Frank Matthews), Lady, During the 60's,70's in New York, The big-time cats on the drug dealing circuit, Were:Frank Lucas,Frank

    Matthews,Rufus Board,Nicky Barnes,PeeWee Kirkland,John(Pop)Freeman,Ronnie Bump,Etc, Also, legendary Harlem numbers operator Spanish Raymond Marquez, Used to run numbers on the eastside of Harlem(Spanish Harlem, Around King Towers on 115thst and Lenox ave and by Wilson Projects on 105thst and 1st ave, Cats like Alpo, K-Slay, Come from Wilson Projects/LOL.
    Much Respect
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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, Here's some more information on Frank Matthews, From Anthoney Gonzalez and Ron Chepesiuk's site.
    Much respect
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    COMING NEXT
    FROM STREET CERTIFIED ENTERTAINMENT!

    BLACK CAESAR: THE RISE AND DISAPPEARANCE OF
    FRANK MATTHEWS

    In a book and a documentary Ron Chepesiuk and Anthony Gonzalez
    explore the criminal career of Frank Matthews, the first strictly
    independent African American gangster and arguably the most
    significant drug trafficker in U.S. history. His criminal stature earned
    him the moniker, “Black Caesar” and his criminal legacy dwarfs that of
    better known black drug traffickers from the 60’s including Superfly
    Frank Lucas, and Mr. Untouchable Leroy Nicky Barnes.

    By his mid 20s, Matthews controlled a narcotics empire that
    operated several heroin production factories, employed more than 100
    people, and extended nationally into 21 states. According to a Federal
    intelligence report, “Matthews controlled the packing, cutting and sale of
    heroin in every major East Coast city.” Notably, he was the first to
    defy the white mob’s control of the cocaine market by circumventing the
    stranglehold the Mafia held via the French connection. He made contact
    with legendary Harlem numbers operator Spanish Raymond Marquez
    who put him in touch with Rolando Gonzalez, a big-time Cuban cocaine
    dealer. This unique Latin connection enabled him to consolidate power.
    In 1971, at the height of his supremacy, Matthews assembled the biggest
    black/Latino drug dealers nationally to a summit in Atlanta. The objective: to break the Italian American mafia control on the importation of heroin into the U.S. so that black/ Latino drug dealers could launch their own trafficking network.

    But before the plan could be implemented, Matthews was arrested on drug conspiracy charges. That should have been the end of the Frank Matthews story, but the judge freed Black Caesar on a $325,000 bond. Authorities have been looking for him ever since.



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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, In regards to Frank Matthews, Frank Lucas stated in an interview in 2002, That, He(Frank Lucas), Feels that Frank Matthews is coolin in Africa with all of his scholarships(Money), From movin weight/LOL), Lady of House, My cousin was an Undercover NYPD, DT, For 30 years, Working out of the 32nd Precient on 135thst and Lenox ave in Harlem), And the 77th

    Precient in Brooklyn(Utica ave and St.John's place in Crown Heights, If i remember correctly/LOL), My cousin used to build with me, On Frank Matthews,Frank Lucas,Rufus(Brooklyn Heavy)Board,Nicky Barnes,Pee Wee Kirkland,Ronnie Bump, Pop Freeman,Etc, During the early to late 70's, On a

    Regular basis/LOL, My cousin worked with a unit out of the 77th Precient, In regards to building a case against Frank Mattews, During the late 60's/early 70's, My cousin has stated to me, That, Frank Matthews used to have, Floor to ceiling scholarships(Money/LOL), All around his rest in Staten Island(Totten Hill), During the late 60's/Early 70's, Along with Frank Matthews being one of the most ruthless, Ferocious cats to ever walk the streets of New York

    (Along with Frank Lucas from Uptown/Harlem), Lady of House, My cousin mentioned to me, That, Out of all of the cats who used to move weight during the 60's,70's, Frank Matthews was the most organized, Infact, The outfit(The Mafia/LOL), Had the utmost of respect for Frank Matthews during the 60's/70's,(And, If a cat like Carlo Gambino, Who was Head of the Mafia, During the mid/60's to mid 70's), Has the utmost of respect for a cat,

    Especially a Black Man/LOL, That holds mad weight on the streets(Which Frank Mattews most definitely had during the 60's to 1973), Lady of House, Also, Pop Freeman/Rip, Is another bigtime Drug Kingpin from the 60's/70's, In New York, Pop Freeman used to be down with Bumpy Johnson,

    Uptown/Harlem, During the 40's through 1968, When Bumpy Johnson passed away in Harlem, Pop Freeman put Ronnie Bump onstage, In regards to movin weight, During the early/mid 70's, Ronnie Bump's from Hollis,Queens, And, Ronnie Bump was one of the first cats from Queens, Who had a Manhattan

    connect(Pop Freeman), In regards to Ronnie Bump getting his weight ontime during the 70's, Ronnie Bump was pinched for Drug Trafficking in the early 80's(Around 1981 or so, Around the same timeframe that Corly,Supreme,Lance and Tony Feratudo,Dicky from St.Albans, Etc, Started to come off mad hard movin weight during the early 80's, Around the Southside(Jamaica,Queens),

    Ronnie Bump was upnorth for more than 25 years, Ronnie Bump came home in 2007, I heard Tommy Mickens(Tony Montana/LOL), Was scheduled to come home in 2008, But, I have not had any conformation on Tommy Mickens being home as of yet). I will have to build with your man(Friend/LOL), Anthoney Gonzalez, In the near future, In regards to cats movin weight(Bigtime drug kingpins, Not cats scrambling on the streets/LOL), During the 70's/80's in New York).
    Much Respect
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    Mike Barnes..much respect always...thank you so much for your reply.. Great and interesting read. You are like a walking encyclopedia..(LOL)

    I met Anthony Gonzalez through my son Dave. I began getting into these cats and thier history..when my son and friends hanged out in the living room while drinking henessy, just kicking it and talking about these oldtimers..we're up in spanish harlem...where there is for sure alot of history. I will be glad to bring you and Anthony together..I'm sure you both would have a great time in discussing such history. If you don't mind will drop Anthony a line and bring your name up .
    "Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, Good lookin with the very kind words(Much respect to you and yours too), Lady of House, Are you familiar with King Towers Projects(115thst and 5thave in Harlem), And, Wilson Projects(105thst and 1st ave in Spanish Harlem), Lady of House, I used to hang at King Towers during the

    Mid 70's to mid 80's, Via the basketball tournament games at King Towers, On Friday nites and Saturday afternoons, During the mid 70's to mid 80's, King Towers is right around the way from Harlem World(116thst and Lenox ave), Which was the premiere spot in Harlem, For Hiphop throwdowns, Along with

    The Rennasance Ballroom on 137thst and 7thave), Lady Of House, I used to play in a basketball tournament at Wilson Projects, During the mid 70's to late 70's), If i remember correctly, Hector Camacho, Comes from around one of those projects around either King Towers or Wilson Projects(I forgot which

    One right about now/LOL), Lady of House, Are you familiar with a stickup kid crew from Uptown, Called The Cigar Mob(Who were from the eastside of Harlem, Close to Wagner Projects(120thst and 2nd ave), But, Operated around Wilson Projects(105thst and 1st ave too/LOL), The Cigar Mob was

    Well-Known for taking cats off(Robbing cats/LOL), During the late 70's to early 80's, Rayvon and Johnny Wa(Magnificient 7 from Uptown/Harlem), Used to move weight around the eastside of Harlem too(Wagner Projects,Wilson Projects,Etc).
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    Those cats came at Wille Llyod as soon as he got out back in the 90's.Had a damn shootout on the damn expressway,while he was on his way to his coming home party.

    The big time Chi cat they need to do an episode on is Flukey Stokes.My man was ill with his,in regards to getting that paper.Knew some old timers who used to roll with dude.Heard some amazing stories..can't say um here tho..

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    Mike Barnes...I'm from the Johnson Projects on 112 & Lex...and yes familiar with Wilson Projects, Wagner & the King Towers, Taft, Clinton Houses..(LOL) been here for 23 years..soo seen alot of peeps come and go...can tell you stories you wouldn't believe...although I was born in Brooklyn down in brownsville..up by saratoga and hopkinson..then we moved to the bushwick area down by wilson avenue..then again we moved this time hitting cypress hills up on sutter and euclid..now those were some crazy projects right there..I remember the sex boys..from down essex st..and pitkin..the tomahawks..but that was in the 70s...when I was growing up..guys would hate to walk me home if they were'nt from cypress hills..I use to wonder why until later on I found out..you had better come correct if you were walking in there with as they would call it one of "our girls". I use to get into it with the guys from my projects...because of them my suitors were limited..lol...could remember the 75th precint on sutter avenue being a very busy precint ...and yes, remember camacho hanging around the neighborhood...we use to love to watch his fights back then..but he was quite arrogant in person..so alot of us didn't pay him much never mind.. I know his baby's mama use to live up on 112 and madison.

    Wow... basketball tournaments is an always in the neighborhood..we have them pretty much all over..I'm up on the ones they have up on 109 and 3rd..and of course right here in our park on 113 & lexington. As for hip hop..not much into it but again because of my son...I do check out the underground "smack" edits..which are raw and fresh right from the neighborhood talents..(LOL) As for the stick up crew..."the cigar mob" the name is new to me..I'm pretty much in and out of the neighborhood..I hear the bits and peices from my son and friends...its been always a pleasure kickin it with youu Mr. Mike Barnes... Are you up in Queens now??Would love to hear more...always..
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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, I rest in Georgia(I haven't rested in New York in years/LOL), But, I do keep up with cats who still rest up the way(New York), In regards to the latest news(Legal or illegal cats/LOL), Lady of house, Your from the Never,Run, Neve will/Brownsville/LOL), Lady of house, I used to play in a

    Basketball tournament at the BRC(Brownsville Recreation Center on Linden Blvd close to Dumont ave in Brownsville), During the mid to late 70's(My man Jocko/Greg Jackson still runs the basketball tournament at The BRC, Jocko was runnin the basketball tournaments at the BRC during the mid 70's/LOL),

    Lady of House, I used to play in basketball tournaments in Brooklyn(BRC,Brevoort Projects,MAL/Moorish American League,Nero Tournament),Etc, With more than a few stickup kids from East New York)New Lots ave cats,

    Who were Righteous/5 Percenters/LOL), Lady of house, The stickup kids Called themsmelves, 'The Gods', Basketball cats by day, Cold stickup kids by night/LOL), Lady of Hosue, Do you remember a gang from Brooklyn,

    Called,'The Jolly Stompers', Well, Pap Mason(Who was originally from Brooklyn/Crown Heights), Was down with the Jolly Stompers during the early/mid 70's n Brooklyn, Pap Mason was down with Fatcat from the Southside(Jamaica,Queens), During the early to late 80's, Pap Mason is doing a push upnorth in Coldorado(Maxium Prision), For the murder of Officer Ed

    Byrnes in 1988(Supreme from Baisley Projects around the Southside is in the same spot too for life, In regards to more than a few murders that Supreme was down with, Going back to the 90's), Lady of Houe, The 75th and 77th Precients, Were mad illegal to the ninth power, During the 60's to late 70's, If i remember correctly, Frank Serpico, Screamed on the cops at the

    75th Precient in regards to DT's taking drug money, From drug dealers, Who would not pay there fee, For protection/LOL, Along with a certain Elite unit of Undercover DT's, Who worked for Frank Matthews,Rufus Board,Etc, During the 60's/70's,Etc, Lady of House, I can build for weeks about cats from Queens, Who used to move weight,Play basketball, Rock Throwdowns in the parks/spots,Shoot-outs,Etc, During the 70's,80's/LOL.
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    Hahahaha...you bring up the 5 percenters..and stick up..ay yi yi...reminds me of a time late at night..I wrote a letter decided I was going to put it in my clutch and go up to the post office on sutter..and mail it..when behold while walking the path across cypress I run into a supreme being..LOL..he stops me to ask me if I know where the 12 bus runs..it dawns on me...sheeet..everyone and their mother knows the 12 bus runs on sutter..duh?? and this 5 percenter..ain't no outta towner..so what the fudge..??? bam..he's heading for my clutch under my arm..I was like noo waay in hell...mind you all I had was that one kite heading for rikers island..LOL..to a friend..all I know was I felt a smak..and wham brother was running...I was like well I'll be damn...I could remember screaming..you mofo..you ain't no five percenter...you a zero you hear you're a zero percent muther....lol..and as for the 75th oh my...remember a guy from the building..getting hit by them...they walked out..and he was like damn..they hit me..lil naive me..I'm like well you were'nt arrested??? he's like noo...but they took my stash....and my money...LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie 3:26 View Post
    Those cats came at Wille Llyod as soon as he got out back in the 90's.Had a damn shootout on the damn expressway,while he was on his way to his coming home party.

    The big time Chi cat they need to do an episode on is Flukey Stokes.My man was ill with his,in regards to getting that paper.Knew some old timers who used to roll with dude.Heard some amazing stories..can't say um here tho..
    I don't think kats outside of the Chi know too much about Flukey. (Other than the pic of him at his funeral.)
    THERE IS NOTHING I LOVE MORE THAN MUSIC...
    DON'T EVER TAKE MY MUSIC AWAY...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ken View Post
    I don't think kats outside of the Chi know too much about Flukey. (Other than the pic of him at his funeral.)
    That was actually Flukey's son,Willie the wimp who was in the caddy casket.

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    Wow...I remember hanging out just growing up...and not knowing the streets..as I was an upstairs girl..but when I got out to venture..and I went to some of them seedy local places..looking for my groove..I remember the tension..and began to learn it was all about the bills..and the game was no joke...never could understand how so many enemies..(competitors) could all hang out in one place..thats when I knew..shit is going down 24/7..and I'm not about to stick around for the events..thats why alot of us are here and alive..as for stories..would luv to hear about the women behind the men.. and yess I'm with Jamie..house music saved my life...
    "Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, The Gods from East New York, Were ferocious with their's back in the 70's, The Gods did not care who they took off(Cats,Young ladies,Snatching old ladies pocketbooks,Etc), The Gods used to take cats off on 42nd st and 9thave(Close to ShowWorld XXXX Theatre on 42nd and

    8thave and the Port Authority Bus Station), Lady of House, During the 70's/80's, Stickup Kids from Brooklyn were the most rugged and ferocious cats on the stickup kid circuit in New York during the 70's/80's,/LOL(Brooklyn stickup kids used to go uptown/Harlem, To take cats off at Harlem

    World,Audobon Ballroom on 165thst and Broadway during the late 70's to mid 80's), Etc, Lady of house, During the 70's, That Queens is weak nonsense was very prevelent on the street circuit in New York/LOL, Though, I used to

    Bring cats from Uptown/Harlem,The Bronx,Brooklyn(Red Hook,Fort Green,Bed Stuy,Brownsville,East New York), Stickup kids who i played with and against in basketball tournaments in Brooklyn, During the mid to late 70's, Well, I used to bring cats from Manhattan,The Bronx,Brooklyn, Etc, Around my way in

    Queens(Southside/Jamaica,Queens), To play basketball(Because cats from Brooklyn,Manhattan,The Bronx, Thought that cats from Queens could not play basketball too/LOL), Well, Once cats from Brooklyn,Mahattan,The Bronx seen for themselves with their own eyes, That cats from Queens were mad nice in Basketball, Along with cats from 40 Projects(Which was one of the most ferocious projects in New York, But, On the low/LOL), Well, Once cats

    From Brooklyn,Manhattan,The Bronx, Seen that cats from the southside, Actually, Had shootouts and stickup kids at throwdowns in the parks and spots around Jamaica,Queens(IS8,Fantasia,48 Park,Ajax Park,Lincoln Park,Etc), Cats from Brooklyn,Manhattan,The Bronx, Looked at cats from

    Around my way(Southside/Jamaica,Queens), With the utmost of respect(Especially after Corly,Supreme,Prince,Dicky,Ronnie Bump,Fatcat,The Feratudo Brothers,Etc, Started G'ing it up mad lovely in regards to movin weight and flossing scholarships, During the early 80's/LOL.
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    Mike...shytt was soo crazy..remember..going up to this place damn..think it was chestnut street..to go cop some weed...when..bang I hear something on the stairs leading to the roof...the cop place was on the last floor...I hear something..on the stairs leading to the roof..I go check...why oh why?? but bam...I see two guys looking like ninjas...one of them tells me..millie..move on...I knew right then and there...I walked in to the middle of a stick up...didn't I take my puerto rican azz right down them stairs..not to mention...I wanted to say damn yall... can I cop my weed first????LOL
    "Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie 3:26 View Post
    That was actually Flukey's son,Willie the wimp who was in the caddy casket.
    Damn, you right!!!
    THERE IS NOTHING I LOVE MORE THAN MUSIC...
    DON'T EVER TAKE MY MUSIC AWAY...
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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, That's a very wild encounter you had to go through/LOL, Lady of house, I can remember bringing some stickup kids from Brooklyn, To a spot called, The Olympia Palace(Which was located on Francis Lewis Blvd and Hillside ave in Queens Village, Near Hollis,Queens), During the late 70's, Well,

    The stickup kids from Brooklyn, Wanted to take cats off, Outside the spot(The Olympia Palace), That i knew, Some cats who were stickup kids too, From around the way/Southside/LOL), Well, I had to build with the stickup kdis from Brooklyn, About, Trying these cats from Queens, Because, These

    Cats shoot-back too/LOL, Lady of House, I was not down with getting zooted or drinking, Though, I do know that when cats/young ladies want to purchase cheeb(What cats today call weed/LOL), Well, It's best that a cat/young lady purchase their cheeb with a crew in some area's of the city, Back in the 70's/80',s,LOL, Because, The cats selling the cheeb, Are the one's setting cats up to get stung, Once a cat leaves the cheeb spot/LOL.
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    Damn...street life is crazy...and Queens..them guys come uptown looking for young girls to supposely get jobs for strip teasing spot lights..come to find out they have them hijacked...and on E..turning tricks..had a girl who they came up on one sunday morning..young girl....parents died and was hanging out at my son's girlfriend crib at the time..she went missing for days..come to find out she was held out in Jamaica..girl got away..was pistol whipped and the whole nine yards..I try to tell these young girls..to be careful..a joint can get you killed..strangers ain't offering candy..they offering some deadly shytt..I even had a young kid..bought to my son...for a debt...they had this young kid selling drugs..while mom was a crack head...thank goodness...I did the work..and he's part of our family now...shytt been going down...and as you say...always will..
    "Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, On the low, Cats from Queens, Were always ferocious with their's, In regards to puttin that head to bed(PAP,PAP,PAP/LOL), But, Cats from The Bronx,Manhattan,Brooklyn,Staten Island, Etc, Were not traveling like that to know/LOL, Lady of House, Once cats like

    Corly,Supreme,Fatcat,Dicky,Lance and Tony Feratudo,Etc, Started to G it up mad lovely, Movin weight, In 1979, Through the 80's, Around the Southside/Jamaica,Queens,Well, Cats from The Bronx,Manhattan,Brooklyn, Etc, Had no choice but to give Queens cats the utmost of respect in regards

    To G'ing it up mad lovely, Along with PAP,PAP,PAP/LOL, Ronnie Bump started movin weight during the mid/late 70's, Before, Corly,Supreme,Fatcat,The

    Feratudo Brothers,Dicky, Etc, But, Ronnie Bump was well-known for movin weight around Hollis,St.Albans,Cambria Heights,Queens Village, Etc, Area's of Queens, So cats from Manhattan,The Bronx,Manhattan, Etc, Were not up on Ronnie Bump(Who had the protection of Pop Freeman from uptown/Harlem, In regards to distribution,Processing,Etc), Cats from allover New York, Had the utmost of respect for Pop Freeman(Who is a forgotten street legend to me),

    Lady of House, Any cat who ran with Bumpy Johnson from Uptown/Harlem, Gets the utmost of respect, Like my man Pop Freeman enjoyed, During the 60's,70's, And, Early 80's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barnes View Post
    Lady of House, On the low, Cats from Queens, Were always ferocious with their's, In regards to puttin that head to bed(PAP,PAP,PAP/LOL), But, Cats from The Bronx,Manhattan,Brooklyn,Staten Island, Etc, Were not traveling like that to know/LOL, Lady of House, Once cats like

    Corly,Supreme,Fatcat,Dicky,Lance and Tony Feratudo,Etc, Started to G it up mad lovely, Movin weight, In 1979, Through the 80's, Around the Southside/Jamaica,Queens,Well, Cats from The Bronx,Manhattan,Brooklyn, Etc, Had no choice but to give Queens cats the utmost of respect in regards

    To G'ing it up mad lovely, Along with PAP,PAP,PAP/LOL, Ronnie Bump started movin weight during the mid/late 70's, Before, Corly,Supreme,Fatcat,The

    Feratudo Brothers,Dicky, Etc, But, Ronnie Bump was well-known for movin weight around Hollis,St.Albans,Cambria Heights,Queens Village, Etc, Area's of Queens, So cats from Manhattan,The Bronx,Manhattan, Etc, Were not up on Ronnie Bump(Who had the protection of Pop Freeman from uptown/Harlem, In regards to distribution,Processing,Etc), Cats from allover New York, Had the utmost of respect for Pop Freeman(Who is a forgotten street legend to me),

    Lady of House, Any cat who ran with Bumpy Johnson from Uptown/Harlem, Gets the utmost of respect, Like my man Pop Freeman enjoyed, During the 60's,70's, And, Early 80's.
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    Hey Mike...its funny you should mention Ronnie Bump...I send Anthony the deephousepage link in regards to our back and forth chat..I thought he would enjoy...and this is the message I got back...I had to laugh..as life is soo funny indeed:

    Hey Millie,


    Your friend is very knowledgable, but some of his information is a little off. He mentioned two friends of mine Ronnie Bump & Tommy Mickens, who both did time in Ft Dix with me & your son. Bump came home in 2000 but came back on a violation and came back home in 2006. I speak to him frequently. Tommy is home, I had a few conversations with him in the streets. We're looking to work on something in the near future. We're looking towards a movie. For the most part your friend was right.


    Anthony Gonzalez
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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of House, Yes, It's a very small world in regards to who knows who/LOL, Lady of House, I never met Ronnie Bump before, But, I do know more than a few cats from St.Alban's,Queens, And, Hollis,Queens, Who used to run with

    Ronnie Bump, During The late 70's/Early 80's, Like, My man Shorty Black from Farmers Blvd in St.Albans,Queens, Shorty Black used to run with Mike Ty(Mike Tyson), During the 90's too, Along with Shorty Black having crews in Supreme's Sniff Basketball tournament(Which was located in Baisley Park, On Supthin Blvd and Baisley Blvd, By the Tennis Courts), Kenny Jennings(From

    Hollis), Who used to work for Def-Jam records, During the 90's,Etc, Now, I met Tommy Mickens during the summer of 1984, Through my man James Ryans(Legendary basketball coach on the New York Summer basketball circuit, During the 70's,80's,90's,2000's), James Ryans and Tommy Mickens were mad crew back in the 80's, Tommy Mickens met Mark Jackson(Who used to play for St.John's University in the mid to late 80's, And, The New York

    Knicks during the late 80's to early 90's, And, Mark Jackson is the Basketball analyst for ABC sports via the NBA games on Sunday's), Well, Tommy Mickens met Mark Jackson Through my man James Ryans, During the mid 80's, Mark Jackson,Derrick Chievous(Who used to play for Holy Cross highschool in

    Flushing,Queens during the early/mid 80's, Derrick Chievious also played for the University of Missouri during the mid to late 80's, Along with Derrick Chievous playing for the Houston Rockets during the early 90's too), Well, Mark Jackson,Derrick Chievous,Boo Harvey(Who played for St.John's during

    The mid to late 80's),Shelton Jones(Who played for St.John's during the mid to late 80's),Etc, All played for Tommy Mickens in basketball tournament games at Rochdale Park(137thst, Close to New York Blvd), Brookville Park(South Conduit ave off of Sunrise Highway in Brookville,Long Island),And,

    Supreme's Sniff Tournament at Baisley Park/LOL, Infact, Mark Jackson brought his moms a rest(House/LOL), Out in Dix Hills(Where, Tommy Mickens used to rest during the 80's/90's), Mark Jackson and Tommy Mickens were very close during the 80's/90's, Lady of house, I used to sometimes go to

    Tommy Mickens spot(Store), Called,'Montana's Sporting goods', On Merrick Blvd by Springfield Blvd in Laurelton,Queens, During the 80's, Lady of House, Tommy Mickens is a very nice cat to build with, Opposed to the flamboyant styles of Corly,Supreme,Kilo,Fatcat,Prince,Black-Jus/Rip,Green-eyed Born,Pap

    Mason,Etc, Though, I do remember Tommy Mickens pushing a White Rolls Royce(The same type of Rolls Royce that Jim Brown was pushing in the movie, 'Slaughter', From 1972/LOL), Lady of house, I go way back with Corly,Kilo,Supreme, Mad hard/LOL, Lady of house, Corly,Kilo and myself, All attended PS 40 on Union Hall St, During the mid to late 60's(I've known Corly

    And Kilo since 3rd grade at PS 40/LOL), Corly,Kilo and myself, Also attended IS8 together(From 6th grade to 8th grade/LOL), I first met Supreme(Who was known back in the 70's as Kenny McGriff/LOL), Well, I first met Supreme in 1975, When Supreme and myself attended Francis Lewis Highschool(Which is located on Utopia Parkway off of Horace Harding Blvd and the LIE/Long Island Expressway), Supreme was a very quiet cat, While we both were in

    Highschool at Francis Lewis, During the mid/late 70's, Infact, Supreme used to play basketball too(Supreme could play alittle, For a cat who did not take the game of basketball seriously like myself back then/LOL), Around 1977, Supreme and myself went our seperate ways in regards to the type of cats that we were hanging with(I was hanging with cats who were very serious about playing basketball, While Supreme, Started to hang with righteous cats who were on the criminal side during the late 70's at Francis Lewis

    Highschool/LOL, I do know that Supreme is doing a life's push upnorth(Maxium Prision in Coldorado, Where, Pap Mason is doing a life's push too/LOL), Lady of house, Corly used to be a gangster back in the 3rd grade at PS 40 during the mid 60's/LOL, Corly was the type of cat who would go through your

    Pockets for scholarships(Money), Back in PS.40, IS8, During the mid 60's to mid 70's/LOL, Corly was also down with the seven Crowns from around the way, Fatcat,Tony and Lance Feratudo were also down with the seven crowns during the early 70's too, Lady of house, Do you remember a cat from Uptown by the name of Fritz/Rip, Who used to move weight on 112thst and

    St Nick(St.Nicholas ave), During the 80's, Now, I never knew Fatcat,Pap Mason,Prince, That well(I only met those cats more than few times, Through cats who ran with them during the 80's), Lady of house, Do you remember George and Reggie Fullien, From the Bronx, The Fullien Brothers used to move weight in the Bronx during the 70's/80's, Fat Jack from the Bronx, Used to run with George and Reggie Fullien during the 80's too.
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    BET's 'American Gangster's 3rd season on BET(October 23rd/Thursday 10:00PM)

    Lady of house, I'm very happy to hear that Ronnie Bump and Tommy Mickens are home, Hopefully, Your man Anthoney Gonzalez(Friend), Can make that movie project with Tommy Mickens happen(Along with A documentary on Ronnie Bump).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barnes View Post
    -- GUY FISHER / TBD

    The first Black owner of the Apollo Theater in Harlem was a dashing ladies' man, sports fan, bon vivant -- and drug lord. Growing up in the rough and tumble Patterson projects of the South Bronx, Fisher became the youngest and most flamboyant member of "the council," a consortium of top drug dealers in Harlem in the 1970s headed by Nicky Barnes. Both friends and foes paid tribute to Fisher's sharp intelligence and organizational skills, which kept "the council" going long after Barnes' own conviction and life sentence for trafficking in 1977. In the early '80s, Barnes turned state's witness against his former allies, claiming he was motivated by Fisher's romantic alliance with his favorite mistress. Convicted for trafficking and sent to prison for life, Fisher embarked on a remarkable transformation, writing novels, counseling inmates to avoid a criminal life, and earning several academic degrees, including a doctorate in sociology -- all the while keeping his own counsel from mainstream media. Now for the first time, Fisher, his family members, friends and associates tell their side of the story to AMERICAN GANGSTER.
    Guy is on now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Guy is on now!
    werd. I'm enjoying this one...
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