Founding Fathers(Legendary Dj's from Brooklyn and Queens during the 60's/70's).

[rplummer]

Damn...THE DJ Plummer?..That's you?

I have a couple of questions for you then if you don't mind.

Would you say, regarding the Hiphop style of DJ'ing, that Brooklyn did it earlier than The Bronx when it came to rockin' the breaks with two copies of records?

Don't really know who was first, so I've resolved to only speak on what I experienced. Pete DJ Jones is about 10 years older than I am. He, Maboya and Flowers were out there before me. Rocking the breaks with two records was around before me and I jumped on the scene in 73 during the summer at Riis Beach. There was QJ from Brooklyn, who was around from about a decade prior to me and who mixed with tapes - reel to reel tapes - and was quite good. Alot of his stuff was pre-mixed, but still good. We with the multiple turntables brought spontaneity into the equation. I think it was 1974 when I met Sedley B who became our voice (sounded just like Hank Spann) and in 1975 we included the "City Steppers." Pete who was from the Bronx had KC on the mike and then Flowers followed suite. Although we were competitors, we copied all the cool stuff from each other.

Regarding the Hip-Hop elements, I'd have to divide it into three categories; the mix, spoken word and dance.

• Flowers was (IMHO) the best all around mixer of the mobile crews. He brought many of funk elements from both the R&B world and the Rock world (i.e. He was the first one I heard play the Mexican by Babe Ruth and mix it with James Brown), which caused me to expand my own horizons.

- The best technical mixer of the mobile crew was this young fella from Brooklyn named Gregg (don’t remember his last name). He had just graduated from Eramus Hall HS and hung out in the gay clubs. The women and the better dancers (hustle in during those days) tended to follow him – they didn’t feel threatened nor pressured to deal with a lot of drama. I don’t know what ever happened to Gregg, though he wasn’t on the mobile scene long. His dance crew began accompanying me from club to club, which is how I ran into Sedley B.

• Sedley was the best rapper - sort of a combination of Baptist preacher, WWRL radio jock (i.e. Gary Byrd with Hank Spann voice) and since he was a dancer, he had an impeccable sense of timing.

• The City Steppers (group of teenager hip-hop dancers complete with cardboard) were like gymnasts on steroids (just a metaphor).

The one thing I’m can look back on those days and be very proud of is that however we carried ourselves (lots of confidence) no one in our crew was into the drug scene.

What were some of the Breaks you used to rock like that back in the days?..Some of your favorites?

I'll have to get back to you on the mixes. I haven't spun in years, although my signature break was to extend the James Brown Sex Machine Live cut and break into Love is the Message - MFSB where James says "Fellas do you want to hear it like you did on the top, Hit it now 1 2 3 4 -CUT-- into the break of Love is the Message" and then extend Love is the Message, alternating between the instrumental and vocal versions.

Peace,
Ron

[Mike Barnes]

Jaime, Gook lookin with the information on Captain Skyy(I did not know he's from Chicago), Donna, The park that you mentioned earlier in Hollis on 205thst and Hollis Ave, Is Hollis Park, Donna, Cats like Dj Herc-U-Rock,Davey D('One for the Treble', Davey D from Hollis,Queens, During the early 80's), Dj Furlough and Allan Graham(Who were vastly

Underrated),Infinity Machine,Disco Twins,Phase III,Cipher Sounds,Etc, Used to rock at Hollis park, And, Especially Jamaica park(202ndst and Jamaica Ave in Hollis,Queens), During the late 70's to early 80's(J from RUN-DMC fame, Used to mix at Hollis park and Jamaica park too, during the early 80's, Before Russell Simmons put J down with Run and D in 1983,

After, Davey D was jerked by Russell Simmons, In regards to Davey D being the Dj for run and D before J in 1983), Donna, We have built before about Dj Furlough and his man Allan Graham mixing at a spot called,' The Track Club'(Which was located at the corner of Springfield Blvd and Hempstead ave in Queens Village, During the early to mid 80's), Allan Graham was a very talented cat in regards to rockin a spot allnight to the morning lite,

Donna, Grandmaster Flowers,Maboya,The Smith Brothers,Count-JC from Coney Island,Frankie D from Marcy Projects, Etc, Used to tear shit up at Lincoln Terrace(On Eastern Parkway by Medgar Evers College), During the mid 70's to early 80's, Plummer,

Most of the spots that i remember hearing you rocking at, Were college throwdowns my man, During the mid 70's(Around 1975/76), Spots like Hunter College,Baruch College,John Jay,Pace University,CCNY,Etc, Along with Riis Beach in Queens, Ron, Do you remember

Lady J,Princess Lee, Al Green Shango,Kango(Who were all down with the Moble Dj Music Hut from Brooklyn, During the mid 70's to early 80's, Plummer, Who were some of the first Female Dj's on the Dj circuit in New York during the early to mid 70's, Plummer, I do remember Bert Lockett rocking a few throwdowns at The Starship(Starship Discovery on 45thst between 9th and 10thave in Manhattan, During the mid 70's to early 80's), Infact,

Bert Lockett was mixing at Better Days before Tee Scott started to mix at Better Days in 1972, Plummer, Bert Lockett,Lady J,Princess Lee(Mobile Dj's of the Brooklyn Music Hut during the mid 70's to early 80's), Were the first female dj's, That i remember on the Dance music Dj in New York, During the mid to late 70's(Along with Baby D and RD-Smiley of the Mercedes Ladies from the Bronx, Being the first female dj's on the hiphop circuit in 1976),

Plummer, I agree with you in regards to Grandmaster Flowers being the best mixing/Blending moblie Dj on the Dj circuit in New York during the 70's(Along with Rene Hewitt/96 West,Ted Currier/Starship,David Todd/BLS,Tee Scott/Better Days,Etc, Plummer,

So many cats from Brooklyn, Were inspired by Grandmaster Flowers my man(Plummer, I know you know this, But, Alot of cats from Brooklyn who never heard Grandmaster Flowers mix before, Do not/LOL), Plummer, I remember building with Dave Brockington/Rip, During the early 2000's, And, Dave mentioned to me, That he was not into getting zooted too,

Though, Dave mentioned, Alot of cats That, Dave ran with on the Dj circuit in New York during the 70's, Were into the drug scene mad hard, Plummer, Your man QJ sounds like he was way ahead of his time in regards to rockin throwdowns in the parks during the mid 60's in New York, My man(Plummer, Isn't it amazing, How very few folks know about the cats,

Who never received the notoriety and publicity for being one of the first, Though, Other's have come along and taken credit for being the first to do this or that my man/LOL, Plummer, The information that you have, In Regards to the Dj circuit during the early 70's,

Very few(Including myself), Have ever witnessed(I started out on the hiphop and Dance music circuit in 1974), Plummer, Your bring the type of information in regards to the Dj circuit in new York, From a mobile Dj side, That alot of folks don't know about my man(Cats have read about Francios Grasso,Terry Noel,Etc, In regards to being the first on the Dance music Dj circuit in spots in New York, During the 60's, But, We don't hear any information of

The mobile Dj's during the 60's like QJ,Pete Dj Jones,Grandmaster Flowers,Etc, Plummer, I wish Dave Brockington were alive today, Because, Dave Supplied this very board with much information during the early 2000's(Dave Brockington was a member of the deephousepage board, Before, David Mancuso and Francios K, Were members, Which was a shame,

Because, The information that Dave B,David Mancuso, And Francios, Would have brought to the board, Would have been very informative,Enlightening,Inspiring(At least to me/LOL), Plummer, If you have the time, Stay around the board for awhile my man(There are more than a few cats/young ladies, Who respect your knowledge and your contribution to the Dance music Dj circuit in New York, Going back to the early to mid 70's).
Much Respect
Mike Barnes

[trento]

Seems like the origins of hip hop are hotly contested.

Just like among bass players, there was a debate as to who started slappin, Larry Graham or Louis Johnson. The conclusion is that both of them did, but when they developed their technique, they didn't know about each other!

from the video clip(not in this thread), and how the cats were talkin, man it was no contest...it appears the bx didn't actually start the 'thing'...i have to read the rest of you allz posts though...very informative, grimey-ass, vintage info you all are giving to those not from the boroughs. grimey-grimey...then, they were goofin on herc's systems talking about how they were pieced together and theirs were all one brand, etc.! i'm not qualified to get into a debate regarding what was what in that area so i'll stfu on that...good grimey info though.

fletch- imo, i'd have to give the pluck crown to larry graham man seeing that he came on the scene slappin and pluckin in the late 60's. back in the 70's, there was a similar debate regarding graham and stanley clarke...they 'agreed' that graham founded the technique and clarke took it to the next level(radioscope radio show, late '70s)....i concur and love all 3 but give me clarke overall because at any given time he'll bust out that upright and bow and drown a cat wit his own kool-aid n' shit....good stuff though.

[Mike Barnes]

Plummer, You can e-mail me those articles from the Discotekin magazine from 1976, In regards to the Dj's from Brooklyn, My man, I forgot to mention a familiar face(Though, My man was sporting shades, That's why i could not recognize him/LOL), Who used to run with Infinity Machine during the late 70's early 80's, My man U-God(Who was Devine's and Understanding's(Cipher Sounds), Man from around the way/Southside,Jamaica,Queens),

Devine and his man Goody(The Founder of Infinity Machine during the mid 70's), Used to have mad cats running with them for different reasons(MC's,Dj's,Security,Cats carrying equipment,Cats carrying Devine's plates, Cats selling cheeb in the bathrooms of spots,Etc),

Also, M.Morton Hall was one of the best dance music promoters in New York during the 70's/80's, Along with the Dow Twins,Mike Stone(Damn, I forgot about M.Morton Hall/LOL),

Plummer, Here's my e-mail address:
barnes1500@yahoo.com
Much Respect
Mike Barnes

[The White Shadow]

Don't really know who was first, so I've resolved to only speak on what I experienced. Pete DJ Jones is about 10 years older than I am. He, Maboya and Flowers were out there before me. Rocking the breaks with two records was around before me and I jumped on the scene in 73 during the summer at Riis Beach. There was QJ from Brooklyn, who was around from about a decade prior to me and who mixed with tapes - reel to reel tapes - and was quite good. Alot of his stuff was pre-mixed, but still good. We with the multiple turntables brought spontaneity into the equation. I think it was 1974 when I met Sedley B who became our voice (sounded just like Hank Spann) and in 1975 we included the "City Steppers." Pete who was from the Bronx had KC on the mike and then Flowers followed suite. Although we were competitors, we copied all the cool stuff from each other.

Regarding the Hip-Hop elements, I'd have to divide it into three categories; the mix, spoken word and dance.

• Flowers was (IMHO) the best all around mixer of the mobile crews. He brought many of funk elements from both the R&B world and the Rock world (i.e. He was the first one I heard play the Mexican by Babe Ruth and mix it with James Brown), which caused me to expand my own horizons.

- The best technical mixer of the mobile crew was this young fella from Brooklyn named Gregg (don’t remember his last name). He had just graduated from Eramus Hall HS and hung out in the gay clubs. The women and the better dancers (hustle in during those days) tended to follow him – they didn’t feel threatened nor pressured to deal with a lot of drama. I don’t know what ever happened to Gregg, though he wasn’t on the mobile scene long. His dance crew began accompanying me from club to club, which is how I ran into Sedley B.

• Sedley was the best rapper - sort of a combination of Baptist preacher, WWRL radio jock (i.e. Gary Byrd with Hank Spann voice) and since he was a dancer, he had an impeccable sense of timing.

• The City Steppers (group of teenager hip-hop dancers complete with cardboard) were like gymnasts on steroids (just a metaphor).

The one thing I’m can look back on those days and be very proud of is that however we carried ourselves (lots of confidence) no one in our crew was into the drug scene.





I'll have to get back to you on the mixes. I haven't spun in years, although my signature break was to extend the James Brown Sex Machine Live cut and break into Love is the Message - MFSB where James says "Fellas do you want to hear it like you did on the top, Hit it now 1 2 3 4 -CUT-- into the break of Love is the Message" and then extend Love is the Message, alternating between the instrumental and vocal versions.

Peace,
Ron

Thank you very much for your replies. I know a lot of people on this board appreciates you takin' time out to build with us. Please send me the article you posted too if you can cause I'd love to read it. My email's

[DaBownca]

Don't really know who was first, so I've resolved to only speak on what I experienced. Pete DJ Jones is about 10 years older than I am. He, Maboya and Flowers were out there before me. Rocking the breaks with two records was around before me and I jumped on the scene in 73 during the summer at Riis Beach. There was QJ from Brooklyn, who was around from about a decade prior to me and who mixed with tapes - reel to reel tapes - and was quite good. Alot of his stuff was pre-mixed, but still good. We with the multiple turntables brought spontaneity into the equation. I think it was 1974 when I met Sedley B who became our voice (sounded just like Hank Spann) and in 1975 we included the "City Steppers." Pete who was from the Bronx had KC on the mike and then Flowers followed suite. Although we were competitors, we copied all the cool stuff from each other.

Regarding the Hip-Hop elements, I'd have to divide it into three categories; the mix, spoken word and dance.

• Flowers was (IMHO) the best all around mixer of the mobile crews. He brought many of funk elements from both the R&B world and the Rock world (i.e. He was the first one I heard play the Mexican by Babe Ruth and mix it with James Brown), which caused me to expand my own horizons.

- The best technical mixer of the mobile crew was this young fella from Brooklyn named Gregg (don’t remember his last name). He had just graduated from Eramus Hall HS and hung out in the gay clubs. The women and the better dancers (hustle in during those days) tended to follow him – they didn’t feel threatened nor pressured to deal with a lot of drama. I don’t know what ever happened to Gregg, though he wasn’t on the mobile scene long. His dance crew began accompanying me from club to club, which is how I ran into Sedley B.

• Sedley was the best rapper - sort of a combination of Baptist preacher, WWRL radio jock (i.e. Gary Byrd with Hank Spann voice) and since he was a dancer, he had an impeccable sense of timing.

• The City Steppers (group of teenager hip-hop dancers complete with cardboard) were like gymnasts on steroids (just a metaphor).

The one thing I’m can look back on those days and be very proud of is that however we carried ourselves (lots of confidence) no one in our crew was into the drug scene.





I'll have to get back to you on the mixes. I haven't spun in years, although my signature break was to extend the James Brown Sex Machine Live cut and break into Love is the Message - MFSB where James says "Fellas do you want to hear it like you did on the top, Hit it now 1 2 3 4 -CUT-- into the break of Love is the Message" and then extend Love is the Message, alternating between the instrumental and vocal versions.

Peace,
Ron

Yo Plummer....some of the Steppers are still around you know? Mike Dungee (Rubberband) still goes out and so does Doc occasionally. I saw Flame some years back but I'm not sure if he still hangs.

[DaBownca]

from the video clip(not in this thread), and how the cats were talkin, man it was no contest...it appears the bx didn't actually start the 'thing'...i have to read the rest of you allz posts though...very informative, grimey-ass, vintage info you all are giving to those not from the boroughs. grimey-grimey...then, they were goofin on herc's systems talking about how they were pieced together and theirs were all one brand, etc.! i'm not qualified to get into a debate regarding what was what in that area so i'll stfu on that...good grimey info though.

fletch- imo, i'd have to give the pluck crown to larry graham man seeing that he came on the scene slappin and pluckin in the late 60's. back in the 70's, there was a similar debate regarding graham and stanley clarke...they 'agreed' that graham founded the technique and clarke took it to the next level(radioscope radio show, late '70s)....i concur and love all 3 but give me clarke overall because at any given time he'll bust out that upright and bow and drown a cat wit his own kool-aid n' shit....good stuff though.

oops wrong quote

[DaBownca]

[quote=Mike Barnes;1073734]Jaime, Gook lookin with the information on Captain Skyy(I did not know he's from Chicago), Donna, The park that you mentioned earlier in Hollis on 205thst and Hollis Ave, Is Hollis Park, Donna, Cats like Dj Herc-U-Rock,Davey D('One for the Treble', Davey D from Hollis,Queens, During the early 80's), Dj Furlough and Allan Graham(Who were vastly

Underrated),Infinity Machine,Disco Twins,Phase III,Cipher Sounds,Etc, Used to rock at Hollis park, And, Especially Jamaica park(202ndst and Jamaica Ave in Hollis,Queens), During the late 70's to early 80's(J from RUN-DMC fame, Used to mix at Hollis park and Jamaica park too, during the early 80's, Before Russell Simmons put J down with Run and D in 1983,

After, Davey D was jerked by Russell Simmons, In regards to Davey D being the Dj for run and D before J in 1983), Donna, We have built before about Dj Furlough and his man Allan Graham mixing at a spot called,' The Track Club'(Which was located at the corner of Springfield Blvd and Hempstead ave in Queens Village, During the early to mid 80's), Allan Graham was a very talented cat in regards to rockin a spot allnight to the morning lite,

Donna, Grandmaster Flowers,Maboya,The Smith Brothers,Count-JC from Coney Island,Frankie D from Marcy Projects, Etc, Used to tear shit up at Lincoln Terrace(On Eastern Parkway by Medgar Evers College), During the mid 70's to early 80's, Plummer,

Most of the spots that i remember hearing you rocking at, Were college throwdowns my man, During the mid 70's(Around 1975/76), Spots like Hunter College,Baruch College,John Jay,Pace University,CCNY,Etc, Along with Riis Beach in Queens, Ron, Do you remember

Lady J,Princess Lee, Al Green Shango,Kango(Who were all down with the Moble Dj Music Hut from Brooklyn, During the mid 70's to early 80's, Plummer, Who were some of the first Female Dj's on the Dj circuit in New York during the early to mid 70's, Plummer, I do remember Bert Lockett rocking a few throwdowns at The Starship(Starship Discovery on 45thst between 9th and 10thave in Manhattan, During the mid 70's to early 80's), Infact,

Bert Lockett was mixing at Better Days before Tee Scott started to mix at Better Days in 1972, Plummer, Bert Lockett,Lady J,Princess Lee(Mobile Dj's of the Brooklyn Music Hut during the mid 70's to early 80's), Were the first female dj's, That i remember on the Dance music Dj in New York, During the mid to late 70's(Along with Baby D and RD-Smiley of the Mercedes Ladies from the Bronx, Being the first female dj's on the hiphop circuit in 1976),

Plummer, I agree with you in regards to Grandmaster Flowers being the best mixing/Blending moblie Dj on the Dj circuit in New York during the 70's(Along with Rene Hewitt/96 West,Ted Currier/Starship,David Todd/BLS,Tee Scott/Better Days,Etc, Plummer,

So many cats from Brooklyn, Were inspired by Grandmaster Flowers my man(Plummer, I know you know this, But, Alot of cats from Brooklyn who never heard Grandmaster Flowers mix before, Do not/LOL), Plummer, I remember building with Dave Brockington/Rip, During the early 2000's, And, Dave mentioned to me, That he was not into getting zooted too,

Though, Dave mentioned, Alot of cats That, Dave ran with on the Dj circuit in New York during the 70's, Were into the drug scene mad hard, Plummer, Your man QJ sounds like he was way ahead of his time in regards to rockin throwdowns in the parks during the mid 60's in New York, My man(Plummer, Isn't it amazing, How very few folks know about the cats,

Who never received the notoriety and publicity for being one of the first, Though, Other's have come along and taken credit for being the first to do this or that my man/LOL, Plummer, The information that you have, In Regards to the Dj circuit during the early 70's,

Very few(Including myself), Have ever witnessed(I started out on the hiphop and Dance music circuit in 1974), Plummer, Your bring the type of information in regards to the Dj circuit in new York, From a mobile Dj side, That alot of folks don't know about my man(Cats have read about Francios Grasso,Terry Noel,Etc, In regards to being the first on the Dance music Dj circuit in spots in New York, During the 60's, But, We don't hear any information of

The mobile Dj's during the 60's like QJ,Pete Dj Jones,Grandmaster Flowers,Etc, Plummer, I wish Dave Brockington were alive today, Because, Dave Supplied this very board with much information during the early 2000's(Dave Brockington was a member of the deephousepage board, Before, David Mancuso and Francios K, Were members, Which was a shame,

Because, The information that Dave B,David Mancuso, And Francios, Would have brought to the board, Would have been very informative,Enlightening,Inspiring(At least to me/LOL), Plummer, If you have the time, Stay around the board for awhile my man(There are more than a few cats/young ladies, Who respect your knowledge and your contribution to the Dance music Dj circuit in New York, Going back to the early to mid 70's).
Much Respect
Mike Barnes[/quoteYo Mike I played most of the jams at John Jay from 77-80 any chance we mighta crossed paths?

[DaBownca]

[quote=rplummer;1073476]I wrote the following a few years ago in response to a Mike Barnes question regarding mobile jocks having opportunities to check each other out.

I worked so much there weren't many opportunities to check out other clubs, but I did whenever I could. When those opportunities presented themselve we checked each other out because getting in was free (promoters loved the marketing opportunity). There were the little kid games like Flowers darkening his record labels, but we pretty well knew or could with a little research find out what he was playing and he knew we would. All in all the competition was pretty friendly and cooperative. There was more than enough work for those of us who were fortunate to have our names splashed all over the radio (WWRL and WBLS) and plastered on flyers found all over the city.

The other jocks I remember from that era 1972-1976 and had great relations with were most notably Peter DJ Jones, Flowers, Maboya, the Smith Brothers and QJ.

The clubs I remember playing at regularly (with my own equipment) were Jimmys on West 52nd. Street (formerly Toot Shors), Downbeat, Kings Palace (formerly My Way), Walterios, The Raspberry Freeze, and others I can't remember the names. Lot's of colleges (NJ, PA, NY).

The first gay clubs I visited (other than the jocks I met at Richard Longs loft) were Hollywood (a bar on forty something street in mid-town - Francios K) and 99 Prince Street (where I met David Mancuso). I knew Dave Brockington from Baruch College (took a couple of courses there to keep fresh) and that he was getting into the scene. Later I met Tee at Better Days, Larry Levan and Walter at Galaxy (dont know if they remember me it was really representative of two different worlds). The music was very different as well; very high-spirited the entire night and with much better sound and light systems. I believed that most of the top jocks at the gay clubs were much more experienced mixers who staged something akin to Broadway productions (sound effects and all), although they didnt have any rap or stepping. We mobile jocks came primarily from the African-American, Caribbean and Latino communities and as such played a lot more Caribbean (Ska, Reggae, Calyso, etc.) and Latino (Cuban, Puerto Rican - Salsa, Dominican, etc.) music. We also played a wider range of R&B and kept one of the house party days traditions; pepper the night with slow ballards (Teddy Pendergrass, Barry White, Whispers, Blue Magic, Manhattans, etc.).

The best thing that happened I think in 74 or 75 was the establishment of the record pools. The record companies were getting tired of the increasing number of jocks looking for free records and didn't hadn't developed a good model to gauge the potential of emerging artists and songs nor how to effectively find target markets for this ever expanding music (please no payola references). David Mancuso's Record Pool was the most successful and was the one that I joined. I was one of the lucky one's along with Peter DJ Jones, Flowers and Maboya who had developed good relations with the record companies and recieved alot of demo records, but it was alot of work.

I had retired to become the road sound engineer for the Trammps (76-78) by the time DJs like Flash began showing up on the radio. Thats another conversation though.

I found during my cleanup a copy of a magazine, Discotekin' from 1976 that featured a series of articles about the Brooklyn DJ's. This board compresses the image so much so that I don't think the content is readable. Will look for an alternative route, possibly email for those interested.

Peace,
Ron


Raspberry Freeze on Nostrand and Empire? If so you know why I'm laughing!

[Mike Barnes]

Chuck, You do like very familiar to me, In regards to your pictures on the DHP board my man(Chuck, I have seen you before in the Shelter during the early 90's, Chuck, Were you playing in any tournaments in Brooklyn during the mid/late 70's(BRC/Brownsville recreation Center on Linden Blvd and Dumont ave), Breevort Tournament(Breevort Projects in the do

Or Die),MAL Tournament(Morrish American League in Flatbush), Nero-Tournament(Crown Heights),Tillary Park(Fort Green), Chuck, I've seen you around before my man(Also, Chuck, We both know, Charlie Robinson and Freddie Burton from Queens(On the Dance Music security circuit in New York during the 80's/90's,) So, We more than likely, Passed through one another on the humble at a spot,Park,Record Shop(I used to get my plates at Downstairs records(44thst Off of ave of the America's during the mid 70's to early 80's), Yvonne Turner(Co-Producer of, 'Take some time out', By Arnold Jarvis in 1987),

Used to work at Downstairs records during the mid 70's to early 80's), Chuck, You do look like a stickup kid i knew from the Fort(Fort Green), During the mid 70's, My man(Seriously, Chuck, You look alot like my man Education from Fort Green/Rightous cat with his), Chuck, Do you know Jocko from Brownsville(Fly's man, Who played with Lloyd Free at Gilford College in Greensboro, North Carolina during the early/mid 70's), Jocko used to run the tournaments at The BRC(Kim

Lightfoot is mad crew with Jocko,Fly,Free,Geoff Huston,Etc, Chuck, We have more than a Few mutual friends my man, Cats like Fly Williams,Charlie Robinson(From Baisley Projects in Jamaica,Queens),Freddie Burton(From Hollis,Queens),Kelvin Hicks(Who played for Brooklyn Tech during the early to mid 80's, Along with Kelvin Hicks playing for new York Tech on Long Island during the mid 70's to early 80's), Lorenzo Charles(Brooklyn Tech during the mid to late 70's, Along with North Carolina State during late 70's to early 80's), Etc, Chuck, Were you hanging at any spots/Parks in Queens during the 70's,

My man, Also, Chuck, Did you ever mix at Harlem World(116thst and Lenox ave in Harlem) Or The Celebrity Club(125thst off of 5thave in Harlem), During the late 70's to mid 80's, Also, Chuck, Were you shopping for wears at Aj Lesters(125thst and 7the ave in Harlem), Or, D-St(Delancy St/LOL), During the 70's my man.
Much Respect
Mike Barnes

[Mike Barnes]

Plummer, There are cats who go way back to the early/mid 70's, Who love to build about the early days of the Mobile Dj circuit in New York, During the early/mid 70's, My man, Infact, Kurtis Blow and Caz(Grandmaster Caz from the Coldcrush 4), Were both guest on Teen Summit(BET during the late 90's), And, Kurtis Blow was building about Pete Dj

Jones,Grandmaster Flowers,Plummer,Maboya,The Smith Brothers,Etc, Plummer, This took place during the Summer of 2000 my man, It was very nice to see the younger generation who was apart of the Teen Summit show, Give, Kurtis Blow and Caz, The Utmost of respect in regards to Kurtis Blow's and Caz's impact and contribution to the hiphop

Movement, Going back to the mid 70's, Along with the Younger generation asking questions about the hiphop circuit and the Dj's like yourself,Maboya,Grandmaster Flowers,Pete Dj Jones,The Smith Brothers,Etc, Who made it happen during the late 60's to mid 70's, Plummer, There is an audience of folks who love the history of the Mobile Dj

Circuit in New York, During the mid 60's to mid 70's, My man, The thing is, To try to build with as many cats/young ladies as possible, In regards to the experiences of those who made it happen, Along with those who had an impact and contribution to the Mobile Dj movement in New York, During the mid 60's to mid 70's.
Much Respect
Mike Barnes

[Mike Barnes]

Plummer, Would the cat that you were referring to earlier(The best Technical mixer on the Mobile Dj circuit in New York, During the early/mid 70, Who graduated from Erasmus HS in Brooklyn), Be, Greg Meyers my man, If So, Greg Meyers used to open up and sometimes fill-in for Larry Levan at the Paradise Garage during the early to mid 80's.
Much Respect
Mike Barnes

[rplummer]

Raspberry Freeze on Nostrand and Empire? If so you know why I'm laughing!

The Raspberry Freeze was at 85 W. 3rd St in the Village. It was a small club with low ceilings and many small diamond shaped mirrors on the wall.

I remember two clubs on Nostrand - (1) up by Eastern Parkway in a basement a sure firetrap with one entrance, and (2) down the hill in the vicinity of Empire - but I don't remember any details.


Ron

[rplummer]

Most of the spots that i remember hearing you rocking at, Were college throwdowns my man, During the mid 70's(Around 1975/76), Spots like Hunter College,Baruch College,John Jay,Pace University,CCNY,Etc, Along with Riis Beach in Queens, Ron, Do you remember

After I won the DJ of the Year in 75 (Harris and Lindsay), I was heavily booked into alot of colleges throughout NY, PA, CT and NJ. Riis Beach is where I initially made my name in '73 care of positive nods from Frankie Crocker and the rest of the WBLS crew who were throwing basketball benefits. I remember Frankie the next day (Monday), mentioning how you could hear us coming off the bridge from Brooklyn.

Lady J,Princess Lee, Al Green Shango,Kango(Who were all down with the Moble Dj Music Hut from Brooklyn, During the mid 70's to early 80's, Plummer, Who were some of the first Female Dj's on the Dj circuit in New York during the early to mid 70's, Plummer, I do remember Bert Lockett rocking a few throwdowns at The Starship(Starship Discovery on 45thst between 9th and 10thave in Manhattan, During the mid 70's to early 80's), Infact,

Bert Lockett was mixing at Better Days before Tee Scott started to mix at Better Days in 1972, Plummer, Bert Lockett,Lady J,Princess Lee(Mobile Dj's of the Brooklyn Music Hut during the mid 70's to early 80's), Were the first female dj's, That i remember on the Dance music Dj in New York, During the mid to late 70's(Along with Baby D and RD-Smiley of the Mercedes Ladies from the Bronx, Being the first female dj's on the hiphop circuit in 1976),

I do remember Lady J and Bert Lockett. Are they still around? Would be nice to pull together a reunion.

... Your man QJ sounds like he was way ahead of his time in regards to rockin throwdowns in the parks during the mid 60's in New York, My man(Plummer, Isn't it amazing, How very few folks know about the cats,

Who never received the notoriety and publicity for being one of the first, Though, Other's have come along and taken credit for being the first to do this or that my man/LOL, Plummer, The information that you have, In Regards to the Dj circuit during the early 70's,

The magazine article I sent has a bit of an expose of QJ Simpson and John Hines who were around during the late 50's and 60's.

[rplummer]

Plummer, Would the cat that you were referring to earlier(The best Technical mixer on the Mobile Dj circuit in New York, During the early/mid 70, Who graduated from Erasmus HS in Brooklyn), Be, Greg Meyers my man, If So, Greg Meyers used to open up and sometimes fill-in for Larry Levan at the Paradise Garage during the early to mid 80's.
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Mike Barnes

Mike,

I don't think I ever knew his last name, although it probably is because Gregg practically lived at the Garage. I'm still in touch with Sedley who might know. Will get back to you on that.

What ever happened to Greg Meyers?

Ron

[DaBownca]

Chuck, You do like very familiar to me, In regards to your pictures on the DHP board my man(Chuck, I have seen you before in the Shelter during the early 90's, Chuck, Were you playing in any tournaments in Brooklyn during the mid/late 70's(BRC/Brownsville recreation Center on Linden Blvd and Dumont ave), Breevort Tournament(Breevort Projects in the do

Or Die),MAL Tournament(Morrish American League in Flatbush), Nero-Tournament(Crown Heights),Tillary Park(Fort Green), Chuck, I've seen you around before my man(Also, Chuck, We both know, Charlie Robinson and Freddie Burton from Queens(On the Dance Music security circuit in New York during the 80's/90's,) So, We more than likely, Passed through one another on the humble at a spot,Park,Record Shop(I used to get my plates at Downstairs records(44thst Off of ave of the America's during the mid 70's to early 80's), Yvonne Turner(Co-Producer of, 'Take some time out', By Arnold Jarvis in 1987),

Used to work at Downstairs records during the mid 70's to early 80's), Chuck, You do look like a stickup kid i knew from the Fort(Fort Green), During the mid 70's, My man(Seriously, Chuck, You look alot like my man Education from Fort Green/Rightous cat with his), Chuck, Do you know Jocko from Brownsville(Fly's man, Who played with Lloyd Free at Gilford College in Greensboro, North Carolina during the early/mid 70's), Jocko used to run the tournaments at The BRC(Kim

Lightfoot is mad crew with Jocko,Fly,Free,Geoff Huston,Etc, Chuck, We have more than a Few mutual friends my man, Cats like Fly Williams,Charlie Robinson(From Baisley Projects in Jamaica,Queens),Freddie Burton(From Hollis,Queens),Kelvin Hicks(Who played for Brooklyn Tech during the early to mid 80's, Along with Kelvin Hicks playing for new York Tech on Long Island during the mid 70's to early 80's), Lorenzo Charles(Brooklyn Tech during the mid to late 70's, Along with North Carolina State during late 70's to early 80's), Etc, Chuck, Were you hanging at any spots/Parks in Queens during the 70's,

My man, Also, Chuck, Did you ever mix at Harlem World(116thst and Lenox ave in Harlem) Or The Celebrity Club(125thst off of 5thave in Harlem), During the late 70's to mid 80's, Also, Chuck, Were you shopping for wears at Aj Lesters(125thst and 7the ave in Harlem), Or, D-St(Delancy St/LOL), During the 70's my man.
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Mike Barnes

I'm cracking up Mike! I was never a stick-up kid nor did I go by anything by Chuck or DJ Champagne. I DID play Harlem World in like 78 tho...one of the better experiences i've had. John Jay had a fashion show there and I was to DJ the show but after the show the house jocks showed me mad love as after the show they let me get down after seeing what I could do! I wish I could remember who was holding down residence at the time (it was a 2 man crew) because it made me feel at home ya heard! I didn't play ball at the spots you mentioned but I have to say at some point my J vacated me so eventually my game was all PG but in my "prime" (lol) they used to call me RADAR and before service I would start chanting "Blip Blip Blip" before draining! Dude I have a feeling we've met but would love to get up just so we could see if that were so and if not just laugh at how small the world be!

[Mike Barnes]

Plummer, Good lookin with the discotekin magazine articles my man(I still cannot read them very clearly, But, I'll try to get around that), Plummer, John Hines and QJ Simpson, Go back to the late 50's, Rockin throwdowns on the mobile Dj circuit in New York my man(Incredible), Because, That part of the Dance music culture, Is never publicized to the many followers and supporters of Dance music to know about, Or do research on, My man,

Plummer, I heard Bert Lockett passed away during the early/mid 80's(Hopefully, I received the wrong information and Bert Lockett is still with us today, Maybe, David Mancuso can give us both some confirmed information on the whereabouts of Bert Lockett, Now, I have not heard anything about Lady J, Since the early 80's, Maybe, David Mancuso has some

Confirmed information on the Whereabouts of Lady J too, Since, Lady J was down with David Mancuo's record pool in 1975(Plummer, I'll post a thread of David Mancuso's record pool list of Dj's from 1975, For you and the DHP board to checkout, In a few my man),

Plummer, I heard Greg Meyer's passed away too(Hopefully, I received the wrong information on this, but, I'm very sure David Mancuso and Francios will know more in regards to Greg Meyers whereabouts, Plummer, I used to go to Riis Bech during the

Summers of 1973 to 1982, Plummer, When i first started hanging at Riis Beach, During the summer of 1973, It was strictly for basketball reasons, My man/LOL, A cat from around my way in Jamaica,Queens, Who played on the highschool basketball circuit in New York,

During the early/mid 70's, Knew alot of cats who were playing at Riis Beach during the early 70's like Connie Hawkins(Boys HS),Lloyd Free(Canarsie HS),Charlie Scott(Harlem

Prep/Lauringberg Prep),Jocko(Greg Jackson),Fly Williams(Austin Peay),Joe Hammond(Rucker Park/LOL),Carlton Green(Julia Richmond HS)Ernie Douse(Boys HS),George Johnson(New Utrecht HS), Bernard King(Fort Hamilton HS),Sundance Rand(Jackson HS),Ricky Marsh

(Jamaica HS),Calvin Bruton(Springfield HS),Etc, Plummer, Most of the cats who played at Riis Beach during the summer Pro-tournaments during the early/mid 70's, Were from Brooklyn and Queens(Though, More than a few cats from Manhattan and the Bronx would

Come through and play at Riis Beach too, During the early to mid 70's), Plummer, I was intrigued by the music that cats were running at Riis Beach during the early 70's, But, I was more focused on the basketball circuit during the early/mid 70's my man/LOL, Chuck, I remember cats like Jun-Bug/rip and Elmo the Magic Christian, Rockin at John Jay a few times during the late 70's(Around 78 and 79), Junbug was a latino cat from Uptown/Harlem,

Junbug used to mix for Hollywood at 371(Club 371 in the Bronx), During the mid to late 70's(Around 1976 to 1979), Junbug was one of the best mixing/Blending Dj's on the dj circuit in New York during the mid 70's to early 80's, Junbug could do the cutting and scratching too(Very fast, Like, Flash,Theodore,Master Don,Imperial JC,Jazzy Jay,Etc, Though, I was

Never down with that cutting,scratching, Madness, I do respect the talent that comes with the Artform of doing it), Chuck, Are you familiar with Dj Smalls from Queens, During the late 70's to mid 80's, Smalls used to run with Hollywood, Mixing in spots like Pegasus(Guests Spots), The Hotel Diplomat(Guest spots), San Remo's(Guest spots),Olympic Palace in Queens(Sweety Gee's spot in Hollis/Queens Village),Etc, Smalls was nice with his too, In

Regards to rockin a spot, Allnight to the morning lite(Smalls and Junbug learned the science of mixing/blending, Programming,Timing, From Hollywood during the mid 70's), Chuck, Did you get the opportunity to meet Love-Bug Starski, Dj-Aj(Kurtis Blow's man from the Bronx,

Who wrote the lyrics to Kurtis Blow's plate,' If i ruled the world in 1985, Which was on the Crush Groove soundtrack, Also, Kurtis Blow made a plate called,' Aj Scratch', During the early/mid 80's, Which was dedicated to Aj(Who used to promote hiphp throwdowns in the Bronx, Going back to 1977, Aj was Van Silk's man during the 70's/early 80's too, Chuck,

Harlem World was a very nice spot(Though, You had to be very aware of the stickup kids from Brooklyn(East New York/New Lots ave cats/LOL, Brownsville, Dumont ave cats/LOL, Bed Stuy, Marcy projects and Breevort projects cats, Red Hook Projects,The Fort/Fort Green Projects by the Brooklyn Bridge overpass),Etc, Chuck, No dis-respect intended, But,

Stickup kids form Brooklyn, Most definitely knew how to mess up a a very enjoyable night, During the late 70's to mid 80', At Harlem World my man/LOL, Chuck, Earth Kitt performed at Harlem World during the early 80's too, Along with Hollywood,Eddie Chebba, During the

Week Nights(Wednesday nights), During the late 70's/early 80's, Chuck, Were you hanging at King Towers(Legendary basketball Tournament in Harlem During the 70's till now/LOL), King Towers is right by Harlem World(King Towers is on 115thst and 5thave, While, Harlem World was on 116thst and Lenox ave, a few blocks away.
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Mike Barnes

[DaBownca]

Plummer, Good lookin with the discotekin magazine articles my man(I still cannot read them very clearly, But, I'll try to get around that), Plummer, John Hines and QJ Simpson, Go back to the late 50's, Rockin throwdowns on the mobile Dj circuit in New York my man(Incredible), Because, That part of the Dance music culture, Is never publicized to the many followers and supporters of Dance music to know about, Or do research on, My man,

Plummer, I heard Bert Lockett passed away during the early/mid 80's(Hopefully, I received the wrong information and Bert Lockett is still with us today, Maybe, David Mancuso can give us both some confirmed information on the whereabouts of Bert Lockett, Now, I have not heard anything about Lady J, Since the early 80's, Maybe, David Mancuso has some

Confirmed information on the Whereabouts of Lady J too, Since, Lady J was down with David Mancuo's record pool in 1975(Plummer, I'll post a thread of David Mancuso's record pool list of Dj's from 1975, For you and the DHP board to checkout, In a few my man),

Plummer, I heard Greg Meyer's passed away too(Hopefully, I received the wrong information on this, but, I'm very sure David Mancuso and Francios will know more in regards to Greg Meyers whereabouts, Plummer, I used to go to Riis Bech during the

Summers of 1973 to 1982, Plummer, When i first started hanging at Riis Beach, During the summer of 1973, It was strictly for basketball reasons, My man/LOL, A cat from around my way in Jamaica,Queens, Who played on the highschool basketball circuit in New York,

During the early/mid 70's, Knew alot of cats who were playing at Riis Beach during the early 70's like Connie Hawkins(Boys HS),Lloyd Free(Canarsie HS),Charlie Scott(Harlem

Prep/Lauringberg Prep),Jocko(Greg Jackson),Fly Williams(Austin Peay),Joe Hammond(Rucker Park/LOL),Carlton Green(Julia Richmond HS)Ernie Douse(Boys HS),George Johnson(New Utrecht HS), Bernard King(Fort Hamilton HS),Sundance Rand(Jackson HS),Ricky Marsh

(Jamaica HS),Calvin Bruton(Springfield HS),Etc, Plummer, Most of the cats who played at Riis Beach during the summer Pro-tournaments during the early/mid 70's, Were from Brooklyn and Queens(Though, More than a few cats from Manhattan and the Bronx would

Come through and play at Riis Beach too, During the early to mid 70's), Plummer, I was intrigued by the music that cats were running at Riis Beach during the early 70's, But, I was more focused on the basketball circuit during the early/mid 70's my man/LOL, Chuck, I remember cats like Jun-Bug/rip and Elmo the Magic Christian, Rockin at John Jay a few times during the late 70's(Around 78 and 79), Junbug was a latino cat from Uptown/Harlem,

Junbug used to mix for Hollywood at 371(Club 371 in the Bronx), During the mid to late 70's(Around 1976 to 1979), Junbug was one of the best mixing/Blending Dj's on the dj circuit in New York during the mid 70's to early 80's, Junbug could do the cutting and scratching too(Very fast, Like, Flash,Theodore,Master Don,Imperial JC,Jazzy Jay,Etc, Though, I was

Never down with that cutting,scratching, Madness, I do respect the talent that comes with the Artform of doing it), Chuck, Are you familiar with Dj Smalls from Queens, During the late 70's to mid 80's, Smalls used to run with Hollywood, Mixing in spots like Pegasus(Guests Spots), The Hotel Diplomat(Guest spots), San Remo's(Guest spots),Olympic Palace in Queens(Sweety Gee's spot in Hollis/Queens Village),Etc, Smalls was nice with his too, In

Regards to rockin a spot, Allnight to the morning lite(Smalls and Junbug learned the science of mixing/blending, Programming,Timing, From Hollywood during the mid 70's), Chuck, Did you get the opportunity to meet Love-Bug Starski, Dj-Aj(Kurtis Blow's man from the Bronx,

Who wrote the lyrics to Kurtis Blow's plate,' If i ruled the world in 1985, Which was on the Crush Groove soundtrack, Also, Kurtis Blow made a plate called,' Aj Scratch', During the early/mid 80's, Which was dedicated to Aj(Who used to promote hiphp throwdowns in the Bronx, Going back to 1977, Aj was Van Silk's man during the 70's/early 80's too, Chuck,

Harlem World was a very nice spot(Though, You had to be very aware of the stickup kids from Brooklyn(East New York/New Lots ave cats/LOL, Brownsville, Dumont ave cats/LOL, Bed Stuy, Marcy projects and Breevort projects cats, Red Hook Projects,The Fort/Fort Green Projects by the Brooklyn Bridge overpass),Etc, Chuck, No dis-respect intended, But,

Stickup kids form Brooklyn, Most definitely knew how to mess up a a very enjoyable night, During the late 70's to mid 80', At Harlem World my man/LOL, Chuck, Earth Kitt performed at Harlem World during the early 80's too, Along with Hollywood,Eddie Chebba, During the

Week Nights(Wednesday nights), During the late 70's/early 80's, Chuck, Were you hanging at King Towers(Legendary basketball Tournament in Harlem During the 70's till now/LOL), King Towers is right by Harlem World(King Towers is on 115thst and 5thave, While, Harlem World was on 116thst and Lenox ave, a few blocks away.
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Mike Barnes

King Towers I never got to bball at I usually ran in BK and W4th st as well as Cromwell gym in Staten Island (that place still up?)
I know you didn't mean any dis fam shoot we in Brooklyn hated those stick-up kids more than anyone else did they sure could mess up a party, block party, or anything fun LOL

[DaBownca]

King Towers I never got to bball at I usually ran in BK and W4th st as well as Cromwell gym in Staten Island (that place still up?)
I know you didn't mean any dis fam shoot we in Brooklyn hated those stick-up kids more than anyone else did they sure could mess up a party, block party, or anything fun LOL

I did know Smalls though not well mike and Starski too as a matter of fact that night at harlem World he and Hollywood were in the booth at harlem World and gave me props when I rocked the mike!

[Mike Barnes]

Chuck, Were you familiar with a cat from the Southside(Jamaica,Queens), Who played at West 4th during the early 80's to early 90's, By the of Pete(Secret Weapon)Edwards my man, Pete used to play with Marty's crew(Marty who worked for Phizer Corporation on

42ndst And 2nd ave in Manhattan), Chuck, Cats from Brooklyn, Gave Pete the name Secret Weapon during the summer of 1982, While, Pete was playing at Soul in the hole, In the do or die(I forgot the name of park/LOL), Chuck, Pete used to play for New York Tech during the late 70's to mid 80's(With your man Kelvin Hicks from Brooklyn Tech), Pete is mad crew with Kelvin Hicks, Pike(6'3 lightskinned cat who played for Eastern District Highschool in

Brooklyn during the late 70's/early 80's),Dale Scurry(Of the in-famous Scurry family from Brooklyn/LOL), Curt(C-Rock)Sumptner from Brownsville,Jocko(BRC),Etc, Pete Also runs the IS8 Highschool Classic in Jamaica,Queens(Which is one of the best highschool tournaments in the country), Chuck, Are you famaliar with Ernie Kendall/rip, Who used to sell tapes at

West 4thst tournament games during the 80's, Chuck, I don't know if Cromwell gym, In the Island of Staten, Is still open now-days my man, Infact, My boys had some static with some racist cats in Staten Island, While coming back to the southside, From Cromwell during the mid 80's(One of my boys layed a cat out on the street with one punch, Along with my man giving the same racist cat a field goal in his fronts too/LOL), Chuck, For

Decades i've always assumed that Smalls was from Uptown/Harlem, Because, Smalls used to run with Hollywood during the late 70's/early 80's/LOL, Smalls used to sometimes run with the Disco Twins too, During the late 70's/early 80's(Smalls used to sometimes rock the mic for The Disco Twins along with Cory D and Robin Hood), Chuck, Did you get to meet a cat by the name of Charlie Rock(Who used to promote and manage Harlem World during the late 70's to mid 80's), Charlie Rock was part of the Harlem World Crew(Randy,Charlie

Rock,Son of Sam,Kool D, Teddy Dee,Jeckyll and Hyde), Chuck, Do you remember a plate called, 'Rappers Convention', By The Harlem World crew, Featuring, Jekyll and Hyde,Charlie rock, during the early 80's), Chuck, Harlem World had an VIP section on the third floor, That was used by the Bigtime cats movin weight, During the late 70's to mid 80's, Cats like Guy Fisher(Nicky Barnes crew),Bat Ross(Nicky Barnes Crew),Corly,Supreme,Fatcat,Lance

And Todd Feratudo from the southside, During the 80's, At different times, Used to do whatever, With Whoever in the VIP area of Harlem World my man(Chuck, Combine, Plato's Retreat with Bentley's, And, There you have a brief discription of the goings on that took place at Harlem World, In the VIP section, During the late 70's to mid 80's(Well, That's what i heard/LOL).
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Mike Barnes

[DaBownca]

[quote=Mike Barnes;1078568]Chuck, Were you familiar with a cat from the Southside(Jamaica,Queens), Who played at West 4th during the early 80's to early 90's, By the of Pete(Secret Weapon)Edwards my man, Pete used to play with Marty's crew(Marty who worked for Phizer Corporation on

42ndst And 2nd ave in Manhattan), Chuck, Cats from Brooklyn, Gave Pete the name Secret Weapon during the summer of 1982, While, Pete was playing at Soul in the hole, In the do or die(I forgot the name of park/LOL), Chuck, Pete used to play for New York Tech during the late 70's to mid 80's(With your man Kelvin Hicks from Brooklyn Tech), Pete is mad crew with Kelvin Hicks, Pike(6'3 lightskinned cat who played for Eastern District Highschool in

Brooklyn during the late 70's/early 80's),Dale Scurry(Of the in-famous Scurry family from Brooklyn/LOL), Curt(C-Rock)Sumptner from Brownsville,Jocko(BRC),Etc, Pete Also runs the IS8 Highschool Classic in Jamaica,Queens(Which is one of the best highschool tournaments in the country), Chuck, Are you famaliar with Ernie Kendall/rip, Who used to sell tapes at

West 4thst tournament games during the 80's, Chuck, I don't know if Cromwell gym, In the Island of Staten, Is still open now-days my man, Infact, My boys had some static with some racist cats in Staten Island, While coming back to the southside, From Cromwell during the mid 80's(One of my boys layed a cat out on the street with one punch, Along with my man giving the same racist cat a field goal in his fronts too/LOL), Chuck, For

Decades i've always assumed that Smalls was from Uptown/Harlem, Because, Smalls used to run with Hollywood during the late 70's/early 80's/LOL, Smalls used to sometimes run with the Disco Twins too, During the late 70's/early 80's(Smalls used to sometimes rock the mic for The Disco Twins along with Cory D and Robin Hood), Chuck, Did you get to meet a cat by the name of Charlie Rock(Who used to promote and manage Harlem World during the late 70's to mid 80's), Charlie Rock was part of the Harlem World Crew(Randy,Charlie

Rock,Son of Sam,Kool D, Teddy Dee,Jeckyll and Hyde), Chuck, Do you remember a plate called, 'Rappers Convention', By The Harlem World crew, Featuring, Jekyll and Hyde,Charlie rock, during the early 80's), Chuck, Harlem World had an VIP section on the third floor, That was used by the Bigtime cats movin weight, During the late 70's to mid 80's, Cats like Guy Fisher(Nicky Barnes crew),Bat Ross(Nicky Barnes Crew),Corly,Supreme,Fatcat,Lance

And Todd Feratudo from the southside, During the 80's, At different times, Used to do whatever, With Whoever in the VIP area of Harlem World my man(Chuck, Combine, Plato's Retreat with Bentley's, And, There you have a brief discription of the goings on that took place at Harlem World, In the VIP section, During the late 70's to mid 80's(Well, That's what i heard/LOL).
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Mike Barnes[/quote

Pete and I never built Mike but I knew of him. Ernie (God rest) was a friend of mine and I went to a lot of his parties (fondly remembered as the "Space cowboy) I still see his son rom time to time as well I think Smalls was from uptown from what I remember too.Charlie Rock may have been the one who told me to stay on the set after the fashion show Mike. I'm pretty sure it was him.

[Mike Barnes]

Chuck, Smalls from Queens my man(I don't know what part of Queens Smalls is from, But, from what i understand, Smalls from Queens), Chuck, Do you remember Count JC from Coney Island and Frankie D, From Marcy Projects, During the mid 70's to early 80's, My man.
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Mike Barnes

[DaBownca]

Chuck, Smalls from Queens my man(I don't know what part of Queens Smalls is from, But, from what i understand, Smalls from Queens), Chuck, Do you remember Count JC from Coney Island and Frankie D, From Marcy Projects, During the mid 70's to early 80's, My man.
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Mike Barnes

Nah those cats aren't familiar to me Mike wait was Count JC an MC?

[Mike Barnes]

Count-JC was a Dj, Who had some MC's, Who were down with him(I cannot remember the names of the cats rhyming for Count-JC, Right about now/LOL), Chuck, I rememeber Count JC rockin at Coney Island Projects(Around the Surf ave area, Close to the F-Train Stop), And, At Grady Highschool(Off the Belt Parkway and Ocean Parkway in Brighton

Beach and Right by Linclon Highschool), Count-JC rocked a few times at Lincoln Terrace on Eastern Parkway during the mid to a late 70's too, Infact, Cats like Rolando Blackmon(Grady HS class of 1978), Stu Granger(Nazereth HS class of 1979), Arturo Brown/Rip

(Nazereth HSClass of 1979), Ty Ladson(Canarsie HS class of 1976), Curtis Redding(Canarsie Hs class os 1976, Stretch Graham(Layfeyette HS class of 1976),Sam Worthen(Franklin K.Lane HS class of 1976, Cosell Brown(Hamilton Hs class of 1980, Eric Marbury(Stephon's oldest brother, Lincoln HS class of 1978, Jeff Thomas(Sheepshead Bay HS class

Of 1978), Sid Green(Jefferson HS class of 1979), Al King(Fort Hamilton HS class of 1977),Etc, All those cats used to hang at throwdowns at Grady HS,Coney Island Projects,Lincoln Terrace, Breevoort Projects, 57 Park(Around Lewis ave in the do or

Die/LOL),Linclon HS,Etc, Chuck, The cats on the basketball circuit in New York, Made up a very large part of the Dance music and hiphop movement during the 70's/80's, Along with Stickup kids too,(Chuck, I know you know about this, But, For those folks, Not from New York, Or, Not old enough to had experienced the Dance music and hiphop circuits in New York, During the 70's, Here's the information).
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Mike Barnes

[Mike Barnes]

Plummer, Do you still keep intouch with Pete Dj Jones my man, Plummer, It seems to me, That alot of the Dj's on the Dj circuit in New York during the 60's/70's, Were mixing on Thoren turntables, Plummer, I was never a Dj, But, From what i understand, Thoren

Turntables, Did not have a pitch control to change the speed of a plate, Which, Made it very difficult for a Dj, Not to know your plates, In regards to mixing/blending(If a Dj did not know his or her music, Back in the 60's/70's, Mixing on Thoren Turntables, Which no pitch control, Would put a Dj in a very bad situation in regards to rockin a spot, Allnight to the morning lite my man/LOL.
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Mike Barnes