H.I.P. H.O.P. Rare footage of the first ever Hip Hop TV Show.

[the crackhouse]

I was watching this TV show on national TV (TF1), it has ruled for the whole year 84, I remember on Sundays when seeing friends we used to try the dance lessons.
I was 9 but it was a big influence in France.
The guy did invite Bambataa, Herbie Hancock and a lot of other big names.

Great show and everything was positive, battles every sunday, how to dress advices, but only 15 minutes each week.

And last but not least, a black entertainer! TV changed sooo much.

Enjoy:
H.I.P H.O.P Tu te rappelle?? (lool j'étais meme pas né!)


Idance

[the crackhouse]

Just happened to know that he did a conference with Bambaataa this 13th of november in Toulouse, France.

He's still spinning and launching parties during the years, and he's a truly great Dj.

Here you can watch Dj Dee Nasty, member of the Zulu Nation, scratching live in the streets of Paris, 1986.



Idance

[Mike Barnes]

The crackhouse, Good lookin with the clips to the hiphop show in France in 1984, Though, Ralph McDaniels show, 'Video Music Box', Is the first offical Hiphop show in 1983(At least in the United states/LOL), Infact, Video Music Box is celebrating it's 25th year anniversary this year, Also, In 1984, There

Was an hiphop show, Called, 'Graffati Rock', Which featured, Moe(Kool Moe Dee and Special K), Battling Run and D/Run-DMC(Though, This was not an offical battle, Because, Run and D would have been smothered lyrically, By

Moe and Special K/LOL, So, The Producers of, 'Graffati Rock', Made it out like an G-Rated battle, Instead of an, Go for yours, Lyrically, Offical battle/LOL.
Much Respect
Mike Barnes

[The White Shadow]

Good looks on the videos crackhouse..never seen those clips before, and likely never would've if it wasn't for you posting them.

We were ALL inspired by Dee Nasty's 89 DMC routine...the end of it where he scratches the Fab 5 Freddie Change The Beat like in that clip there it blew us straight back to the lab.

Mike, no doubt you're probably right about the Video Music Box show in 83 in the US, but I'm pretty sure Europe had the first Hiphop TV specials. I remember a half hour documentary made by some guy from Norway who used to travel to New York a lot, so he would film among other things B-Boys/Girls gettin' live at The Roxy, Melle Mel, Scorpio, and Duke Bootee interviews, etc. The name of it was "Hip Hop Movement" and as far as I know it was only aired in Scandinavia. That was either 82 or 83.

"Style Wars" was also aired out here a few times. That doc. about Graffiti. Classic film that made us all go out and bomb back then..lol...that's how people here got to know about Hiphop in the first place through those TV specials...before that we'd heard DJ's cuttin', and MC's on the mic, and a lot of people, especially club DJ's here was doin' it in the clubs too, but it took those TV joints for us to know about the culture aspect of it like we didn't know that Breakdancin' and to some extent Graffiti was a part of it until then.

When "Wildstyle" was made Fab 5 Freddie and them didn't have the funds to make it, and no one in the US would put money into a film about Hiphop so they got some TV stations in Germany to fund some of it, and then when they showed they'd actually came up with some overseas money they got the rest from companies in the US...without that support from Europe Wildstyle might not had been made.

France was involved in the New York Hiphop scene too via Celluloid Records. B-Side I think was from France and Fab 5 was rhymin' a whole record in French and I don't know the link but he was good at it so he either studied the language or have family out here I'm not sure. D.ST and the Infinity MC's was on Celluloid, and writers like Phase 2 and Futura 2000 also and so did Bambaataa along with D.ST., B-Side, Motivator, and FK did the mix on the joint "Wildstyle" by Time Zone, and a German band named "Wunderwerke" did the music..like the lyrics in the song goes..."Was ist das...das Wunderwerke".

"The Wildstyle" sounds a lot like the style of Hiphop records made by European groups in the early-mid 80's. Bands like Beobab, Falco (one of his records had a break Jazzy Jay used to cut), Alex & The City Crew, and lots of others. The UK too...they was makin' Hiphop 12"'s in the late 70's/early 80's...among them Greg Wilson who hangs out on here from time to time.
Of course European music was a big inspiration for the US DJ's...Kraftwerk, Visage, Gary Numan, many more..

Melle Mel on "It's Nasty"...there we go..another feat for the master of this shit we call MC'in'...lol...was the first MC from the US to rhyme in French on a record.

Hiphop here got so big after Beat Street came out in 84 that every kid was into Hiphop in one way or another. Here's a clip of B-Boys in Norway from about 84/85...

[the crackhouse]

Bringing more history, thank you guys.
When I stated "First ever TV show", it's because it's what I've read on the web, absolutly not a pissing contest here.

It's amazing how today young french rappers refuse to accept that Sydney and Dee Nasty were the guys who brought hip hop culture to France.
They are totally denied, but damn when you hear at the songs featured in H.I.P. H.O.P., it's all Newcleus, Fab and Bambaataa's cuts...

Idance

[Martin Red]

Beat This: A Hip-Hop History is a "seminal"[1] 1984 BBC documentary film about hip hop culture, directed by Dick Fontaine.[2] The cast includes Afrika Bambaataa, DJ Kool Herc — the film includes footage from Herc's original dance parties — The Cold Crush Brothers, Jazzy Jay, Brim Fuentes, and The Dynamic Rockers,[3] and is narrated by Imhotep Gary Byrd.[1][4]

Originally part of the Arena television series, it was among the first crop of documentaries about hip hop.[3]

from wikipedia

ARENA: BEAT THIS! A HIP HOP HISTORY
(1984)

Copyright date
1984Production start date
Not available Production end date
Not available Production countries

Great Britain
Notes
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Library Synopsis
Documentary about the disco/jazz dance scene in New York streets: Breakdancing, Hip-Hop, Body Popping, Graffiti Art, plus the music that goes with it, Rap and electropop. With Gary Byrd, Afrika Bambaataa, Cool Hero, Cold Crush Brothers.

http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/136845

[The White Shadow]

Beat This is a great one. It's on Youtube too.

[The White Shadow]

Bringing more history, thank you guys.
When I stated "First ever TV show", it's because it's what I've read on the web, absolutly not a pissing contest here.
Idance

Of course not. Just adding info to the story. It's like who the first DJ to cut breaks was or what the first Rap record was. Just a few years ago everyone thought it was Kool Herc and King Tim 3rd., but info keeps comin'. I wouldn't be surprised if someone in Europe or another part of the world comes out and claims to have been scratchin' since 1975 or something. At the end of the day of course props should be given where due, but I also think the same thing happened all over the world in the same period of time. Small world, and we're all connected down the line.

Btw...there's a Rap record from Belgium from 1980. I'll see if I can dig it up and post here. Peace.

Here it is...Music's quite Funky...a cross between We rap more mellow and Funk you up by The Sequence..

http://www.zshare.net/audio/522025074517e7f2/

[Mike Barnes]

WhiteShadow, Good lookin with the very enlightening information, My man, WhiteShadow, I remember reading Freddy's(Fab Five Freddy), Interview, On Jayquan's site a few years ago, And, Freddy, Mentioned that cats from Germany put up the scholarships, To make,'WildStyle', In 1982,

WhiteShadow, Your most definitely right in regards to Mel(Mele Mel), Being the first MC to rhyme in French on a plate in 1982, With,'It's Nasty', By The Furious 5, My man/LOL, WhiteShadow, I do recall, King Sun, Rhyming in French on his plate', 'On the Club tip', During the early 90's too/LOL,

WhiteShadow, Cats like Mel,Moe,Caz,Special K,DLB,Tito(Fearless 4),Rayvon(Johnny Wa's man from Uptown/Harlem, Who was down with the Magnificient 7 from Uptown during the late 70's/early 80's),Dot(Dotta-Rock from the Fantastic 5),Sweety G,Etc, Were all so cerebral and creative, Lyrically,

During the late 70's to mid 80's, It took cats like Rakim,Mikey D,Kane,KRS,Kool G.Rap,Craig G,Freshco,Finesse,Etc, To change the direction of being lyrically creative at a drop of a dime, On wax, Or live, To another height(A height that Mel,Moe,Caz,DLB,Special K,Tito,Dotta-Rock,Sweety G, Can go to, But, At that time of the passing of the torch(Rites of passage), During the mid 80's

(1986), Rakim made every MC think about it, In regards to coming with a full clip lyrically, With,Thought provoking, Cerebral rhymes, Whiteshadow, The cat who wrote, 'Beat Street', In 1984(I forgot my man's name right about now/LOL), Mentioned that he wanted to sell the script to, 'Beat Street', To A company run by Jane Fonda, During the mid 80's, But, Jane Fonda's company, Tried to jerk my man out of everything, And, Talk my man down on the price, In regards to selling the script/LOL.
Much Respect
Mike Barnes

[the crackhouse]

Hiphop here got so big after Beat Street came out in 84 that every kid was into Hiphop in one way or another. Here's a clip of B-Boys in Norway from about 84/85...

HEY!
What's that tune in the background of this video WhiteShadow? I remember havin' it on tape but could never put my hands on its name.

About the Gantwerp Rappers, the record is a reprise from a record about 2 guys who are getting drunk after a soccer game, they don't have any money to pay their glasses so they get beaten by a big guy when running out of the bar.
I don't know if the Dutch reprise contains the same lyrics.
If you like this record, you can find it easily in Belgium. I don't think it was hip hop in the heads of its creators, as in these years all music was very creative and multi-influenced.

Idance

[The White Shadow]

The first song in the clip is "Good as gold" by Robert S.. I think that was the first Hiphop record from an MC from Detroit.

Thanks for translating the lyrics to the Poopeloo song. The vocals sound cheesy but the instrumental is nice. They must've heard some Rap records prior to makin' it or what you think? I'll grab it eventually I think. Definitely worth the about 5 Euros it's goin' for.